Several Cowboys & Texans Test Positive for COVID19 (1 Viewer)

[barackdhouse]

I'm ####### terrified that the members in my league that I commission do not understand the severity of the possible ways the NFL season could go FUBAR. It is made up of 96 teams (eight 12 team leagues, you can own >1 team, so 73 owners overall) and is set to disband after this jackpot season that we've been building towards since 2015. I tried to convince the owners to discuss this when we held our rookie draft, you know while people were active, but the vast majority of responses were that I was overreacting. All I want to do is talk about contingencies. What happens if they only play X games? What if they start on time but then cancel. Is there a failsafe # of games where we chop the pot? Do we bump the final season to 2021 and have another rookie draft. I know that if this goes sour, it will happen in the moment and I'll be left holding the bag trying to appease 72 other owners.

And of course this affects all of our leagues. Playoffs are supposed to be weeks 14,15 and 16 in most leagues. What happens if that doesn't happen? Just slice the pot according to standings at that moment? Probably in a lot of cases. FFPC is doing 30% for 1st and 2nd, 20% for 3rd and 4th, if I understand correctly. And I think they are capping the season at like 6 games. Less than that and people get their money/credits back.

 

[barackdhouse]

There's exceptions for everything.  The risk of driving and getting in a car accident is greater.  Yet no one scoffs when Zeke drives himself down the highway, putting his life at a greater risk then a covid infection is to him.

How contagious are car wrecks? Because this virus is incredibly so. It has been estimated to have an R nought of 2.5-3.5. This comparison to cancer or car wrecks is misguided.

 

[Deamon]

How contagious are car wrecks? Because this virus is incredibly so. It has been estimated to have an R nought of 2.5-3.5. This comparison to cancer or car wrecks is misguided.

What does this have to do with it being contagious?  The analogy was only in terms of health risk to THAT nfl player.

In terms of how risky it is for them to go back, and how fast this thing spreads, and how scary it will be if it does spread to those who are elderly/immune compromised, I'm 100% with you.  This is damn scary and I hope the NFL goes above and beyond to find ways to make sure it doesn't spread to people it could really hurt.

 

[huthut]

There's exceptions for everything.  The risk of driving and getting in a car accident is greater.  Yet no one scoffs when Zeke drives himself down the highway, putting his life at a greater risk then a covid infection is to him.

The risk of getting in a car accident and dying is absolutely lower than the most optimistic death rate for COVID, I have no idea where you are getting your numbers. You think 1 in 500 people die every single time they drive on the highway? 

 

[Deamon]

The risk of getting in a car accident and dying is absolutely lower than the most optimistic death rate for COVID, I have no idea where you are getting your numbers. You think 1 in 500 people die every single time they drive on the highway? 

1 in 500 healthy 20-35 year old Athletes do not die from Covid. 

 

[barackdhouse]

What does this have to do with it being contagious?  The analogy was only in terms of health risk to THAT nfl player.

In terms of how risky it is for them to go back, and how fast this thing spreads, and how scary it will be if it does spread to those who are elderly/immune compromised, I'm 100% with you.  This is damn scary and I hope the NFL goes above and beyond to find ways to make sure it doesn't spread to people it could really hurt.

My bad if I missed how you were using the analogy. I've seen this argument a million times (made up number) over the last several months and hate the comparisons. Like I really ####### hate it. This is a public health crisis and car wrecks and cancer are *terrible* comparisons. But. If you weren't using it that way, and I probably pounced because I've seen it so many times and took it out of context, then that's on me. 

 

[FBG Moderator]

Exactly.  Those on the other side of the argument are upset when you use age which is proven, but then go and use race themselves (which could be due to other factors such as healthcare).  Mind blowing.
 

This is what Hot Sauce Guy does.  Twists words to make it out like you're making some claim which you completely aren't.  As close minded as they come.

I don't know who is at fault and I'm not digging through another thread to see. All I know is half the time we get a reported post it's related to you two guys.

Both of you drop it now and be way more cool. Full stop.

 

[Deamon]

My bad if I missed how you were using the analogy. I've seen this argument a million times (made up number) over the last several months and hate the comparisons. Like I really ####### hate it. This is a public health crisis and car wrecks and cancer are *terrible* comparisons. But. If you weren't using it that way, and I probably pounced because I've seen it so many times and took it out of context, then that's on me. 

I'm with you on how people aren't taking this seriously enough (contrary to the picture of my viewpoint most are painting in order to fit their narrative).  I have my own opinions on if/how the NFL should come back, but those aren't relevant to the discussion we were having. 

The topic is mentioning that some NFL players contracted the virus, which I'm saying really is no big deal whatsoever for their own health, but is a huge concern for the health of their loved ones.  Or anyone they run into at the supermarket.  I am hopeful (maybe naively hopeful) that the NFL gets this right and takes immense precautions to make sure that WHEN players get the virus, they are isolated from the team, and daily checks are done and they can go back 72 hours after their negative test (among other things)

 

[barackdhouse]

And of course this affects all of our leagues. Playoffs are supposed to be weeks 14,15 and 16 in most leagues. What happens if that doesn't happen? Just slice the pot according to standings at that moment? Probably in a lot of cases. FFPC is doing 30% for 1st and 2nd, 20% for 3rd and 4th, if I understand correctly. And I think they are capping the season at like 6 games. Less than that and people get their money/credits back.

Anyone? What are you all going to do in your leagues?

 

[Cobbler1]

My bad if I missed how you were using the analogy. I've seen this argument a million times (made up number) over the last several months and hate the comparisons. Like I really ####### hate it. This is a public health crisis and car wrecks and cancer are *terrible* comparisons. But. If you weren't using it that way, and I probably pounced because I've seen it so many times and took it out of context, then that's on me. 

Traffic accident comparisons being used like you describe here are absolutely a trigger. Can’t stand the “people in die car crashes too you gonna tell me I can’t drive now?” argument. Like we have speed limits, age restrictions, driving tests, traffic lights, all kinds of safety requirements for cars to prevent car crashes from causing MORE deaths than currently. Just wear your damn mask when you should and distance so we can prevent more deaths from Covid as well.

 

[Deamon]

Anyone? What are you all going to do in your leagues?

I personally think the whole season will go ahead, but that's not here nor there.  I guess it's smart to have some sort of contingency plan set out in the bilaws of your league in case something like that happens.  How to handle this/word this in bilaws is probably worthy of its own thread.

 

[huthut]

1 in 500 healthy 20-35 year old Athletes do not die from Covid. 

There are 150 deaths per 10,000,000,000 miles driven (going by a google search). The average person drives ~19k miles a year, again from a google search. That puts him at about a 1 in 3500 chance per year of dying in a car accident. Do you think COVID deaths are that low? I don't know what the current data is, but I recall seeing 0.2% from the initial reports for ages < 40 for Covid deaths which is where I grabbed the 1 in 500 from. 

 

[Deamon]

There are 150 deaths per 10,000,000,000 miles driven (going by a google search). The average person drives ~19k miles a year, again from a google search. That puts him at about a 1 in 3500 chance per year of dying in a car accident. Do you think COVID deaths are that low? I don't know what the current data is, but I recall seeing 0.2% from the initial reports for ages < 40 for Covid deaths. 

Yes, the odds of Zeke dying from Covid if he contracts it, are smaller than 1 in 3500.  Much smaller.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'm ####### terrified that the members in my league that I commission do not understand the severity of the possible ways the NFL season could go FUBAR. It is made up of 96 teams (eight 12 team leagues, you can own >1 team, so 73 owners overall) and is set to disband after this jackpot season that we've been building towards since 2015. I tried to convince the owners to discuss this when we held our rookie draft, you know while people were active, but the vast majority of responses were that I was overreacting. All I want to do is talk about contingencies. What happens if they only play X games? What if they start on time but then cancel. Is there a failsafe # of games where we chop the pot? Do we bump the final season to 2021 and have another rookie draft. I know that if this goes sour, it will happen in the moment and I'll be left holding the bag trying to appease 72 other owners.

And of course this affects all of our leagues. Playoffs are supposed to be weeks 14,15 and 16 in most leagues. What happens if that doesn't happen? Just slice the pot according to standings at that moment? Probably in a lot of cases. FFPC is doing 30% for 1st and 2nd, 20% for 3rd and 4th, if I understand correctly. And I think they are capping the season at like 6 games. Less than that and people get their money/credits back.

I have this same concern and it’s only got a single league of 12.

man, I can’t imagine your circumstance. That’s a significant cluster. 

even if the season goes on as scheduled, I can’t imagine any possibility that it goes off without a hitch for a full schedule of games. 

I guess an analogy can be made that players get hurt and random bad luck happens, but a pandemic seems to be a next-level of risk outside of what could be considered ordinary for a season. 

Witn that sort of $ and those numbers of teams/managers on the line I feel for ya. That’s brutal.

 

[Cobbler1]

I personally think the whole season will go ahead, but that's not here nor there.  I guess it's smart to have some sort of contingency plan set out in the bilaws of your league in case something like that happens.  How to handle this/word this in bilaws is probably worthy of its own thread.

Anyone? What are you all going to do in your leagues?

Yeah I’m not sure. It’s obviously on the radar as commissioner of a couple leagues. Current lean is if we don’t have playoffs everything gets refunded and in the one contract league I run contracts won’t toll. But there will be lots of discussion among the members before anything is finalized.

 

[barackdhouse]

Yeah I’m not sure. It’s obviously on the radar as commissioner of a couple leagues. Current lean is if we don’t have playoffs everything gets refunded and in the one contract league I run contracts won’t toll. But there will be lots of discussion among the members before anything is finalized.

People seem convinced that we should try to finish this league during 2020 no matter what. I kind of agree and believe me I am ready to be done as commish there.

man, I can’t imagine your circumstance. That’s a significant cluster. 

even if the season goes on as scheduled, I can’t imagine any possibility that it goes off without a hitch for a full schedule of games. 

Witn that sort of $ and those numbers of teams/managers on the line I feel for ya. That’s brutal.

Buy in was only $55 per season but half that went to escrow for 2020. There is currently over $22k in the kitty. $5000 for 1st place. $300 for 25th place (not a typo). Even the toilet bowl has $700 in it.

There are multiple ways this NFL season could go sideways and multiple ways an individual league could. I'm still patient since it is only June and summer hasn't even started yet. What happens with the NBA will determine a lot, and by NFL preseason we should have a much clearer picture of what we might have to deal with.

I think there was a fail safe date the NFL mentioned, in October at some point, that they could delay a start to the season and still play 16. 

 

[I-ROK]

this is all kinds of wrong. It’s not a study, it’s a pandemic. 

theres a mountain of evidence that we can use for 1:1 comparisons across the spectrum of NFL Players and personnel, which spans a wideR swath of the populace than you’re asserting.

thanks for the help. You must be “rusty”.

I see you’ve edited this to take the jack assery out of it after you were warned by the moderator. I’m fairly new to these forums but I’ve noticed the majority of your posts are very condescending, dismissive, and borderline hysterical when anyone disagrees with you. Not a good first impression.

You dismiss the idea of studies but then the next sentence you say there is a mountain of evidence... what do you think the best evidence is? Studies. Follow the science <micdrop>

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I see you’ve edited this to take the jack assery out of it after you were warned by the moderator.

no, I edited my initial response to be more polite as I noticed you were new & I felt like I was being rude all on my own. I simply found it difficult to believe that someone “with a masters” would say something so unscientific. 

The moderator’s warning had noting to do with my response to you and came after I edited my post.

 I’m fairly new to these forums but I’ve noticed the majority of your posts are very condescending, dismissive, and borderline hysterical when anyone disagrees with you. Not a good first impression.

I have literally thousands of posts on this forum, and “the majority” of them are most certainly not as you describe. That’s a ridiculous assertion. Plenty of folks disagree with me plenty of times and we get on just fine. I’ve eaten crow more than my fair share for bad calls around here. 

You’re new, as you say - so maybe rushing to judgement about members & calling them out like this isn’t the best idea. 

You dismiss the idea of studies but then the next sentence you say there is a mountain of evidence... what do you think the best evidence is? Studies. Follow the science <micdrop>

I didn’t “dismiss the idea of studies” but that’s a lovely straw man ya got there.  

welcome to my “ignore users” list. Have a nice day. Maybe hold onto that microphone.

 

[I-ROK]

no, I edited my initial response to be more polite as I noticed you were new & I felt like I was being rude all on my own. I simply found it difficult to believe that someone “with a masters” would say something so unscientific. 

The moderator’s warning had noting to do with my response to you and came after I edited my post.

I have literally thousands of posts on this forum, and “the majority” of them are most certainly not as you describe. That’s a ridiculous assertion. Plenty of folks disagree with me plenty of times and we get on just fine. I’ve eaten crow more than my fair share for bad calls around here. 

You’re new, as you say - so maybe rushing to judgement about members & calling them out like this isn’t the best idea. 

I didn’t “dismiss the idea of studies” but that’s a lovely straw man ya got there.  

welcome to my “ignore users” list. Have a nice day. Maybe hold onto that microphone.

It looks like this is your reputation based on others as well. Including the moderator
 

“this isn’t a study, it’s a pandemic” in response to a post that said we should look at studies. 

then “we have a mountain of evidence to look at!!!”

Exactly what I was saying. We have evidence, studies, let’s use them appropriately and responsibly. Not painting with broad strokes. 

 

[Faust]

Broncos' Kareem Jackson tests positive for COVID-19, says he's not surprised in spike among NFL players

 

[Faust]

Football may not happen at all this year, Fauci warns

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Football may not happen at all this year, Fauci warns

This seems kinda obvious. NFL is pretending everything is just fine. 

we’ll see where the middle ground is, but IMO a cancellation would be less painful than a start/stop in the long run.

but then shutting everything down & wearing masks for a couple of weeks would be a while lot less painful in the long run than pretending there isn’t a pandemic & suffering for a year, yet here we are.  

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Broncos' Kareem Jackson tests positive for COVID-19, says he's not surprised in spike among NFL players

He's been working out in Houston, so it continues the Texas connection, which is in uptrend
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states/texas

 

[Deamon]

Football may not happen at all this year, Fauci warns

They've already responded to this and refuted it.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

but then shutting everything down & wearing masks for a couple of weeks would be a while lot less painful in the long run than pretending there isn’t a pandemic & suffering for a year,

I'm pretty sure this did happen and is still happening. 

 

[elshagon]

I'm pretty sure this did happen and is still happening. 

Not sure how things were where you live, but in my city during the stay at home order the parks were crowded, half the people weren't wearing masks because they say it was a hoax and churches were defying orders and having services.  Those that attended church were infected and spread the virus throughout the community.  I think if there was a nationwide effort to start we wouldn't be in the predicament we're in now.  As far as Fauci's statements, they're new and I haven't seen a response by the NFL.  I've even seen betting sites that have the NFL season being played at 50-50 odds.  

 

[Mystery Achiever]

  As far as Fauci's statements, they're new and I haven't seen a response by the NFL.  

Here it is. I would say they addressed it vs refuted it, but maybe that is just semantics. Whatever the league's intentions, preparations, and precautions, they can't have 100% certainty at this time that there will be a full, or even shortened, season. That's just the uncertainty of a pandemic.

“Dr. Fauci has identified the important health and safety issues we and the NFL Players Association, together with our joint medical advisors, are addressing to mitigate the health risk to players, coaches and other essential personnel,” the statement reads. “We are developing a comprehensive and rapid-result testing program and rigorous protocols that call for a shared responsibility from everyone inside our football ecosystem.

“This is based on the collective guidance of public health officials, including the White House task force, the CDC, infectious disease experts, and other sports leagues,” it continues. “Make no mistake, this is no easy task. We will make adjustments as necessary to meet the public health environment as we prepare to play the 2020 season as scheduled with increased protocols and safety measures for all players, personnel and attendees. We will be flexible and adaptable in this environment to adjust to the virus as needed.”  -- Dr Allen Sills

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Not sure how things were where you live, but in my city during the stay at home order the parks were crowded, half the people weren't wearing masks because they say it was a hoax and churches were defying orders and having services.  Those that attended church were infected and spread the virus throughout the community.  I think if there was a nationwide effort to start we wouldn't be in the predicament we're in now.  As far as Fauci's statements, they're new and I haven't seen a response by the NFL.  I've even seen betting sites that have the NFL season being played at 50-50 odds.  

I think people mostly followed the rules. The weather wasn't so great the first few weeks so that helped and nothing was open so most people stayed home. I have not been to a supermarket or one of the stores that remained open, like Home Depot, where people were not wearing masks. Outside is a different story perhaps but the risk of spread is reduced outdoors as well. The spread was/is inevitable until either a vaccine can be found or herd immunity takes place. Even staying home wasn't completely safe if some one in the familiy had to go food shopping or to work.

The shelter in place "rules" were never designed to totally destroy the virus. It was to merely slow down the spread so that hospitals would not get over-run and that those most desperately in need could get proper treatment. In that time period we were able to gather a lot of data. This data shows that the virus is most deadly for the elderly and those with some pre-existing conditions. In the meantime we also destroyed many businesses and put people in a financial hole they may never recover from. Now those sacrifices were necessary as we just didn't know how many deaths this virus could bring with it at the beginning. The cable news networks that benefited the most from people stuck at home and desperate for information, surely did their part to make things look bleak and to only show the negative stories.

But at some point, society needs to move on and we need to educate people, not scare them. For most people this will effect them at worst like a bad flu, and for many they will not even know they had it. For those most susceptible, unfortunately, they must continue to take extreme precautions, but some of us need to save the economy. People need to have it hammered home that unless they are having respitory issues they shouldn't go to the hospital just because they feel sick but should stay home and call their doctor. This way for those that are in danger can get proper treatment.

I lost my cousin and our pool guy to Covid-19 so I am not saying "it's a hoax" by any means, but I also realize that it's unrealistic to keep people inside forever and for many doing that would be far worse than getting sick.

As far as football is concerned, obviously I want it back, but admit it may not be the best idea. We do have to remember that most of these players and coaches really can't afford to miss a season though. Most of the league are thousandaires, not millionaires and most have limited earning years available to them. They're already taking on a ton of risk to their long term health by participating in such a violent sport, this is just an added risk and probably a far lesser one than CTE or knees that can't support their weight. No one seems to care that these guys are doing severe damage to their bodies and brains every season - but all of a sudden people are very worried about them getting sick.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'm pretty sure this did happen and is still happening. 

Shutting down was supposed to buy time to implement testing & tracing.

the reason we are still experiencing shutdowns 11 weeks later is because while we did shut down, the testing/tracing was never implemented. Govt pretending it’s magically going away & reopening is fine. It’s not, and it isn’t. 

So yeah, we did. And it was a squandered opportunity, which is going to extend this far longer than necessary. That’s why we’re still hosed with 26k new cases in 2 weeks and Australia has 0 in that time-frame. 

And since the above happened, I don’t see any path to a seamless NFL season. My only source of optimism is that the NFL hires smarter people than the federal government.  

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

They're already taking on a ton of risk to their long term health by participating in such a violent sport, this is just an added risk and probably a far lesser one than CTE or knees that can't support their weight. No one seems to care that these guys are doing severe damage to their bodies and brains every season - but all of a sudden people are very worried about them getting sick.

It’s a fair take, but it misses the mark a little. 

people still don’t care about the players getting COVID any more or less than they care about their knees or brains.

The care expressed in this topic is about whether the season is interrupted, messing up people’s magical football. 

i care about player safety the same as I did before COVID, but this discussion is about the impact of COVID on the season in light that several players are COVID.+

Just sayin - it’s not that everyone’s all “omg players health!” but more “omg should I draft a team this year? How will we handle playoffs?!”

just keepin it real real. 

 

[BradtheAg]

Once you realize that something is going to be too difficult and too expensive to defeat, just pretend you won.  It worked for Vietnam.

 

[barackdhouse]

Shutting down was supposed to buy time to implement testing & tracing.

the reason we are still experiencing shutdowns 11 weeks later is because while we did shut down, the testing/tracing was never implemented. Govt pretending it’s magically going away & reopening is fine. It’s not, and it isn’t. 

So yeah, we did. And it was a squandered opportunity, which is going to extend this far longer than necessary. That’s why we’re still hosed with 26k new cases in 2 weeks and Australia has 0 in that time-frame. 

And since the above happened, I don’t see any path to a seamless NFL season. My only source of optimism is that the NFL hires smarter people than the federal government.  

We had 26k new cases yesterday. One day, not two weeks. To your point, though, Australia had 23 new cases yesterday. That's more than 1000 times less than the US. Today we have 18k new cases and Australia has 21. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

We had 26k new cases yesterday. One day, not two weeks. To your point, though, Australia had 23 new cases yesterday. That's more than 1000 times less than the US. Today we have 18k new cases and Australia has 21. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Oh lord.

yeah my bad. I saw the number as a daily total but then it said “for the last 14 days” so I went with what seemed more realistic. 

i guess nothing should shock me any more yet it still does. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Ok, this is the NBA, but it’s high-tech AF. No idea if they really are 90% effective but it’s pretty cool so I thought I’d share. Dunno if I’m the only tech nerd on the site. Enjoy: 

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/06/17/nba-coronavirus-plan-smart-technology-to-keep-players-safe.html?__twitter_impression=true

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Very cool, if not a little Big Brother-y. The alarm within six feet won't translate well to a huddle, though!
Has NFL spoken at all about potentially separating players from families and others? 
ETA- CNN said an official said no to idea of putting them in a bubble like NBA.

ETA#2- Kyler Murray also getting teammates together in Texas. Stay healthy, guys. 

 

[Faust]

Thirteen Texas football players test positive for COVID-19 after just FOUR DAYS of voluntary workouts as new cases soar to record highs in the state

 

[Mongidig]

If there is a season I foresee less games over a longer period of time. If they don't put these guy's in a bubble then it seems there will be breakouts and potential cancellation of games. A potential second wave would pretty much kill it. There is gonna have to be a ton of flexibility in the schedule. I could see the season starting and then having to be postponed during outbreaks. There may be the need for these guys to bubble up to finish the season. 

I'm at my low point of confidence that there will be football. A lot of athletes are starting to talk about sitting out for social justice reasons. Other players may decide it's not worth the risk. Coaches are frustrated by the lack of a direction. I think there will be a lot of unrest in this nation as we get closer to the election which could affect the season. 

 

[Mongidig]

Thirteen Texas football players test positive for COVID-19 after just FOUR DAYS of voluntary workouts as new cases soar to record highs in the state

I think Texas should be avoided right now.

 

[Faust]

Tampa Bay Buccaneers assistant coach tests positive for coronavirus, per report

 

[tangfoot]

I think Texas should be avoided right now.

I certainly can appreciate that football players aren't generally MENSA material, but why TF are these players congregating in Texas at all?  GTFO of there.

 

[Faust]

Report: UCLA Football Players Don't Trust Chip Kelly to Follow COVID-19 Protocol

 

[Faust]

Report: 49ers player tests positive for COVID-19

 

[Deamon]

Report: 49ers player tests positive for COVID-19

Bruh you're gonna kill yourself with all the updates... there's going to be probably hundreds of them.

 

[Mongidig]

Bruh you're gonna kill yourself with all the updates... there's going to be probably hundreds of them.

I think every team is gonna have a Corona dashboard. You will be able to see who has it, who has recovered, who is in quarantine etc.

 

[Cobbler1]

I appreciate the posted updates on who/which team has confirmed public case/cases @Faust

 

[H8fulHuck]

FF will be challenging for commissioners and team owners.  Every player will essentially be a game time decision. Kickers, linemen, QB... so how do we deal with this?  That said, DFS is going to be insane this year.  People who react quickly to last minute scratches can cash in big time. 

some leagues lock in rosters for all games at 1 pm Sunday.  Consider changing to kickoff of each game.

IR exemption for covid.  Very likely FF teams will have multiple studs out for weeks at a time.  Consider unlimited IR spots for players out for Covid. Player must be on your roster to qualify meaning someone can’t pick up a player who is quarantined straight to IR.  

Set a minimum number of games for the season to count along with rules to chop the pot.  If the NFL cancels the season after 8 weeks, you won’t have FF head to head playoffs.  Set the rules for cash payouts beforehand or the arguments about how to split will get ugly.  

  It would help the community to write up a detailed list of potential pitfalls and recommendations of how each league can address them.  

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I appreciate the posted updates on who/which team has confirmed public case/cases @Faust

Seconded, thanks @Faust

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

FF will be challenging for commissioners and team owners.  Every player will essentially be a game time decision. Kickers, linemen, QB... so how do we deal with this?  That said, DFS is going to be insane this year.  People who react quickly to last minute scratches can cash in big time. 

some leagues lock in rosters for all games at 1 pm Sunday.  Consider changing to kickoff of each game.

IR exemption for covid.  Very likely FF teams will have multiple studs out for weeks at a time.  Consider unlimited IR spots for players out for Covid. Player must be on your roster to qualify meaning someone can’t pick up a player who is quarantined straight to IR.  

Set a minimum number of games for the season to count along with rules to chop the pot.  If the NFL cancels the season after 8 weeks, you won’t have FF head to head playoffs.  Set the rules for cash payouts beforehand or the arguments about how to split will get ugly.  

  It would help the community to write up a detailed list of potential pitfalls and recommendations of how each league can address them.  

That, plus as commish arranging the draft is a PITA for a league that’s only ever drafted live.

I'm going to propose an online managed draft because a Zoom draft would get ridiculous in a hurry. 

I’m also going to propose skipping this season altogether because I don’t see it happening anyway. 

 

[Mongidig]

I haven't completely given up hope for a season because it's still a few months away. I'm at a very low confidence level that there will be any major sports this year. If a player or coach dies of this that might end it all right there. This virus comes on suddenly which means it could easily hit a player during a game. The logistics of making this happen seem impossible. I think even if you put these guys in a bubble someone will screw it up. There are so many moving parts and people involved.

What percentage chance do you guys put on the NFL season happening this year? I'm at 20%. That being said, I'm seeing the numbers spike in a lot of areas so my perception might be tainted. It's possible the numbers might be way down by the time the season starts. Maybe they delay until October or November or later. Hopefully they have a number of contingency plans ready to go. Maybe some new drug or invention will come along to make things safer. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I haven't completely given up hope for a season because it's still a few months away. I'm at a very low confidence level that there will be any major sports this year. If a player or coach dies of this that might end it all right there. This virus comes on suddenly which means it could easily hit a player during a game. The logistics of making this happen seem impossible. I think even if you put these guys in a bubble someone will screw it up. There are so many moving parts and people involved.

What percentage chance do you guys put on the NFL season happening this year? I'm at 20%. That being said, I'm seeing the numbers spike in a lot of areas so my perception might be tainted. It's possible the numbers might be way down by the time the season starts. Maybe they delay until October or November or later. Hopefully they have a number of contingency plans ready to go. Maybe some new drug or invention will come along to make things safer. 

100% chance they try to do it. Too much $ involved all around.

10% chance they have an uninterrupted season.