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MrPhoenix

Ron Paul Soldier
Texans fans should be happy to know they have competition for the Worst NFL team next season at the rate the Jets are going.

 

Reaper

Footballguy
Texans fans should be happy to know they have competition for the Worst NFL team next season at the rate the Jets are going.
All for ther best - Jets should have shed some contracts a long time ago.At least Herm and Bradway are gone - Good luck to KC, I'm looking forward to the Bang cartoons on Herm for once.

 

jeter23

Footballguy
Did Pennington refuse to take a pay cut?

If so, you can add him to your list.
I think they would take a big hit to the cap if they do release him, but that doesn't mean it won't happen.
 

Warpig

Footballguy
Did Pennington refuse to take a pay cut?

If so, you can add him to your list.
I think they would take a big hit to the cap if they do release him, but that doesn't mean it won't happen.
If Pennington doesn't re-work his contract he's a jerk. They gave the guy a huge contract and he has done nothing but get hurt. He should know that he honestly hasn't lived up to that contract. If he's a good person he'll agree to re-work his contract...maybe make it performance based. I think he still has the ability to be a good qb. All he has to do is stay healthy for one season. The way they are purging O-lineman...it doesn't look good for him staying upright this year. I guess they better trade down to pick up more draft picks to accumulate linemen.
 

jeter23

Footballguy
Did Pennington refuse to take a pay cut?

If so, you can add him to your list.
I think they would take a big hit to the cap if they do release him, but that doesn't mean it won't happen.
If Pennington doesn't re-work his contract he's a jerk. They gave the guy a huge contract and he has done nothing but get hurt. He should know that he honestly hasn't lived up to that contract. If he's a good person he'll agree to re-work his contract...maybe make it performance based. I think he still has the ability to be a good qb. All he has to do is stay healthy for one season. The way they are purging O-lineman...it doesn't look good for him staying upright this year. I guess they better trade down to pick up more draft picks to accumulate linemen.
And you would happily give back all that money? Pennington has done his share for the Jets, including playing hurt at times. I wouldn't blame him at all for not reworking his contract.
 

Reaper

Footballguy
Did Pennington refuse to take a pay cut?

If so, you can add him to your list.
I think they would take a big hit to the cap if they do release him, but that doesn't mean it won't happen.
If Pennington doesn't re-work his contract he's a jerk. They gave the guy a huge contract and he has done nothing but get hurt. He should know that he honestly hasn't lived up to that contract. If he's a good person he'll agree to re-work his contract...maybe make it performance based. I think he still has the ability to be a good qb. All he has to do is stay healthy for one season. The way they are purging O-lineman...it doesn't look good for him staying upright this year. I guess they better trade down to pick up more draft picks to accumulate linemen.
And you would happily give back all that money? Pennington has done his share for the Jets, including playing hurt at times. I wouldn't blame him at all for not reworking his contract.
He probably knows he's "Done" and has no reason to give up his Last NFL paycheck.......Even if he stays, he'll be learning his 4th new offense, have a OL in transition and this offense is supposed to go away from "Dink and Dunk" - Chad's specialty.

Jets should just cut ties and Eat the money sooner rather than later - Any other deal seems to prolong the pain.

Cut all these guys - Eat all the money and get another top draft pick next year..

Mangini's 1st year shouldn't be about Wins or losses anyway - Like Saban it should be 100% about managing the cap and getting a TEAM together of players who buy into your system - Take the fall now - You're never more than 3 years away from competing. Martin, Mawae, Fabini, Sowell - These guys won'ts still be in their prime, If they are now, when the Jets are ready to compete - Shed them all.

The problem with the last regime was that they hung on to long to older guys and paid them for their past performance... Don't make the mistake again.

 

Bri

Footballguy
Fabini will be a cowboy then and they'll suddenly have depth at T. Parcells really liked Fabini

 

Warpig

Footballguy
The problem with the last regime was that they hung on to long to older guys and paid them for their past performance... Don't make the mistake again.

Uh-oh! This sounds alot like the chiefs. Holding on to players way to long when they should be showing them the door. Chiefs could be heading for a cap purging rebuilding year after this year.

 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
Reports this morning from Mike & Mike that Pennington HAS refused to accept a pay cut, and the Jets have notified John Abraham's agent that they intend to franchise him again this year.

 

ooofffaaa

Footballguy
Reports this morning from Mike & Mike that Pennington HAS refused to accept a pay cut, and the Jets have notified John Abraham's agent that they intend to franchise him again this year.
I heard the same.The Jets are going to cut him and take a one year 12 million dollar cap hit and be done with it. Things are going to get real ugly for the Jets the next couple of years.

I wonder if New York has the patience to give the new regime a chance to build it up again. I don't see it happening.

 

Warpig

Footballguy
Reports this morning from Mike & Mike that Pennington HAS refused to accept a pay cut, and the Jets have notified John Abraham's agent that they intend to franchise him again this year.
I heard the same.The Jets are going to cut him and take a one year 12 million dollar cap hit and be done with it. Things are going to get real ugly for the Jets the next couple of years.

I wonder if New York has the patience to give the new regime a chance to build it up again. I don't see it happening.
Ok, say this does happen...where does Pennington end up? I'm concerned since he's on my roster.
 

fatness

against the grain
Also reported online in several places, this being one of them: Newsday

Chad passes on offer

BY KEN BERGER

STAFF WRITER

February 17, 2006

Chad Pennington's agent has rejected the Jets' proposal to slash the injured quarterback's base salary for 2006 to $1 million and force him to earn the remaining $8 million he is owed through incentives.

The impasse is not surprising, but it means newly anointed general manager Mike Tannenbaum and Pennington's high-powered agent, Tom Condon, are in staredown mode.

The Jets have until March 3 to decide if they can live with Pennington's current contract, negotiate a cap reduction or release him. Pennington is due a $3-million roster bonus that day, a payment that would bring his earnings to $25 million on the seven-year contract extension he signed in September 2004 - a span during which he has played only 18 games.

Pennington's cap figure was scheduled to be $12 million this season, but the team already has the discretion to reduce it to $7.5 million by prorating all of his $6-million base salary against the cap for the next four seasons.

But the Jets, who are more than $20 million over the projected cap, need to cut deeper. They don't want to pay the $3-million bonus and believe Pennington should account for the fact that he's coming off a second operation on his right (throwing) shoulder in as many seasons.

Pennington has missed 22 of 48 regular-season games due to injury the past three seasons. But Pennington's camp is opposed to forfeiting any of the $9 million he is due, a scenario that - if unresolved - could lead to his release, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.

According to two more people with knowledge of the situation, the Jets are trying to get running back Curtis Martin, center Kevin Mawae, guard Pete Kendall, tackle Jason Fabini and receiver Laveranues Coles to accept pay cuts or reworked deals.

As expected, they have decided to part ways with cornerback Ty Law, who is due an $11-million bonus March 3. Mawae, coming off surgery to repair a torn left triceps, apparently will refuse to take a pay cut and will ask the Jets to release him if they can't handle his projected $4.5-million cap figure.

Meanwhile, in a sign that the Jets' new regime is cleaning house throughout the organization, the team fired vice president of operations Mike Kensil last week. Kensil, the son of late Jets president Jim Kensil, spent 29 years with the team.
 
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Jason Wood

Zoo York
Reports this morning from Mike & Mike that Pennington HAS refused to accept a pay cut, and the Jets have notified John Abraham's agent that they intend to franchise him again this year.
I heard the same.The Jets are going to cut him and take a one year 12 million dollar cap hit and be done with it. Things are going to get real ugly for the Jets the next couple of years.

I wonder if New York has the patience to give the new regime a chance to build it up again. I don't see it happening.
Ok, say this does happen...where does Pennington end up? I'm concerned since he's on my roster.
Way too early to speculate. He'll have to first prove his shoulder is A-OK in workouts and then some team would bring him aboard as a backup likely. He's still got value IF he can recover from the 2nd shoulder surgery, hardly a slam dunk.
 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
If Chad get cut who do you think will start for the Jets...Richard Todd or Ken O'Brien?
Kitna, Volek, Cutler, Collins???
Lots of local media pushing for Collins [not that they have influence]...my guess is if the Jets really do part ways with Chad, they move aggressively to ensure they can have either Leinart or VY.
 

motor guy

Footballguy
What's the concensus on Fabini, Gragg, and Kendall? I'm familiar with the names, but not so much the players. Are they quality starters?

As a saints fan, I'm curious if they follow Marrone to New Orleans, and, if so, what their potential impact would be.

Thanks.

 

Reaper

Footballguy
Reports this morning from Mike & Mike that Pennington HAS refused to accept a pay cut, and the Jets have notified John Abraham's agent that they intend to franchise him again this year.
I heard the same.The Jets are going to cut him and take a one year 12 million dollar cap hit and be done with it. Things are going to get real ugly for the Jets the next couple of years.

I wonder if New York has the patience to give the new regime a chance to build it up again. I don't see it happening.
What's with the "Patience" thing with NY - That drives me batty - They said that about the Knicks for the past 20 years - No, Knicks fans don't have the patience to rebuild, They like it much better when you just wallow in mediocrity... When Larry Brown wa hired it was the same thing - Will NY fans have the patience - IS THERE A CHOICE..... Both teams blow anyway If any fans know about the bottom line and what it takes to win even if that means stepping back, it's NY fans.... And really how far back can you step from where the Knicks and Jets are? 1-15??? Bring it on... The Jets were 4-12... The last regime tried to keep the system going and plug holes without "Rebuilding" NY doesn't have the patience to watch that crap again...
 
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Warpig

Footballguy
If Chad get cut who do you think will start for the Jets...Richard Todd or Ken O'Brien?
Kitna, Volek, Cutler, Collins???
Lots of local media pushing for Collins [not that they have influence]...my guess is if the Jets really do part ways with Chad, they move aggressively to ensure they can have either Leinart or VY.
That's what I think. They either move up to make sure they get one of the two or trade down a few spots and maybe pickup Cutler. I think Collins will stay in Oakland.
 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
What's the concensus on Fabini, Gragg, and Kendall? I'm familiar with the names, but not so much the players. Are they quality starters?

As a saints fan, I'm curious if they follow Marrone to New Orleans, and, if so, what their potential impact would be.

Thanks.
They're all older at this point, but have value, particularly Fabini and Kendall. Kendall can play guard and center, an added asset.
 

Reaper

Footballguy
What's the concensus on Fabini, Gragg, and Kendall? I'm familiar with the names, but not so much the players. Are they quality starters?

As a saints fan, I'm curious if they follow Marrone to New Orleans, and, if so, what their potential impact would be.

Thanks.
Kendall is a quality Guard - Jets had to play him at Center last year and he wasn't so great....I think Mawae could be a good addition to the right OL as well - Mawae and Kendall could put a team's OL over the hump and might be short term bargains.

 

Sinrman

Footballguy
Yep. Pennington could see the writing on the wall. The Jets were pretty much done with him, and didn't want to take the risk with him anymore. He'll be cut soon, and the Jets will take a huge hit this year. But sometimes, it's a better idea to just take the huge hit one year, and be done with it, rather than bleed slowly over the course of several years, and be stuck with a guy who likely won't contribute much.

The Jets are in an odd drafting spot though. With Bush, Leinart, and Young likely being taken at 1-3, the Jets are the odd man out, if they want one of the two top QBs. Unless they are enamored with Cutler, and willing to draft him earlier than anticpated, I can't see any other scenario than them trying to move up to #2 or #3, which will cost them even MORE to do. They are already hurting cap-wise, and with other situations like having to drop some weight (like Law, Fiedler, etc.) and dealing with the Abraham situation (maybe still a sign-trade scenario in the works?)

Overall, the Jets are going to be hurting for a few years...

 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
Yep. Pennington could see the writing on the wall. The Jets were pretty much done with him, and didn't want to take the risk with him anymore. He'll be cut soon, and the Jets will take a huge hit this year. But sometimes, it's a better idea to just take the huge hit one year, and be done with it, rather than bleed slowly over the course of several years, and be stuck with a guy who likely won't contribute much.

The Jets are in an odd drafting spot though. With Bush, Leinart, and Young likely being taken at 1-3, the Jets are the odd man out, if they want one of the two top QBs. Unless they are enamored with Cutler, and willing to draft him earlier than anticpated, I can't see any other scenario than them trying to move up to #2 or #3, which will cost them even MORE to do. They are already hurting cap-wise, and with other situations like having to drop some weight (like Law, Fiedler, etc.) and dealing with the Abraham situation (maybe still a sign-trade scenario in the works?)

Overall, the Jets are going to be hurting for a few years...
I wish more people realized that D'Brick is by no means a consolation prize. He's a cornerstone franchise LT...if anything people should be talking about Green Bay at 5 being the odd team out, not the Jets. In fact, there's a very very good chance the Jets get Vince Young at 4, don't think VY in the top 3 is a foregone conclusion.
 
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MLBrandow

Guest
Ring Ring

Mr. Law you have a call from Jerry Jones on the courtesy phone.......
He's only interested in Super Bowl contenders.And Pennington can't be cut, that's why they want him to restructure. All he has to do is say "#### you." And the Jets have to pay him like $10M anyway.

Plus, what if he is able to come back from that surgery? Then there's an all-pro quarterback you just paid $10-12M to give away.

 

Sinrman

Footballguy
Jason,

Don't get me wrong. I think D'Brick would be a fantastic pick. But I think in this case, it depends on what the Jets want to do. Do they want to take the risk on a new franchise QB and turn the page to a new chapter? Or do they maybe go with D'Brick and sign a FA QB and see what they can do for now?

You're right about Young being the definite #3. He MAY slide to #4 or later, but I don't think that's as likely as some may think. If he were to slide to #4, I don't see how the Jets pass on him, unless they just have a lot of question marks about him.

 
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Velcro

Footballguy
And Pennington can't be cut, that's why they want him to restructure. All he has to do is say "#### you." And the Jets have to pay him like $10M anyway.

Plus, what if he is able to come back from that surgery? Then there's an all-pro quarterback you just paid $10-12M to give away.
Not sure what you're saying. If he's cut, they don't owe him anything more. You're confusing the cap hit with actual dollars. Big difference.
 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
Ring Ring

Mr. Law you have a call from Jerry Jones on the courtesy phone.......
He's only interested in Super Bowl contenders.And Pennington can't be cut, that's why they want him to restructure. All he has to do is say "#### you." And the Jets have to pay him like $10M anyway.

Plus, what if he is able to come back from that surgery? Then there's an all-pro quarterback you just paid $10-12M to give away.
They don't have to pay Pennington one read cent...they would take a cap hit as though they paid him, but wouldn't have to give Chad any cash compensation.Also, let's not call Chad an All Pro QB. He never made a Pro Bowl team much less the All Pro team; and that was before he got hurt [twice.]

 

Marvelous

Footballguy
According to two more people with knowledge of the situation, the Jets are trying to get running back Curtis Martin, center Kevin Mawae, guard Pete Kendall, tackle Jason Fabini and receiver Laveranues Coles to accept pay cuts or reworked deals.
I think it is hilarious that Coles already had a huge contract when the Jets traded for him last year, but they had to give him more money to make him happy. And now the Jets want to rework it.Coles will probably decline, hoping he gets cut and gets another signing bonus.
 

Velcro

Footballguy
Overall, the Jets are going to be hurting for a few years...
I think this is really an unknown and "the sky is falling" attitude that pervades a few people on this board. I'm not saying the Jets will be playoff contenders next season, but there is very little reason to think they couldn't compete the season after. With the advent of the salary cap and the parity it brings, a team (under the right management) can turn around fairly quickly. In 2000, the Pats won 5 games and won the Super Bowl 2 years later.

In 2004, the Steelers won 6 games and won the Super Bowl 2 years later.

The Bucs won 5 games in 04 and won their division this year.

Sure the Jets are going to have a lot of dead money against the cap next season, but there isn't much reason to expect utter failure for years. The big question is whether the Jets are under the right management to turn the ship around quickly. I really know very little about the new "young" guys running the show.

 

Reaper

Footballguy
Overall, the Jets are going to be hurting for a few years...
I think this is really an unknown and "the sky is falling" attitude that pervades a few people on this board. I'm not saying the Jets will be playoff contenders next season, but there is very little reason to think they couldn't compete the season after. With the advent of the salary cap and the parity it brings, a team (under the right management) can turn around fairly quickly. In 2000, the Pats won 5 games and won the Super Bowl 2 years later.

In 2004, the Steelers won 6 games and won the Super Bowl 2 years later.

The Bucs won 5 games in 04 and won their division this year.

Sure the Jets are going to have a lot of dead money against the cap next season, but there isn't much reason to expect utter failure for years. The big question is whether the Jets are under the right management to turn the ship around quickly. I really know very little about the new "young" guys running the show.
I just don't think an team NFL is ever more than 3 years away from "Competing"....I don't think Rebuilding is a proper term in the NFL anymore... Rebuilding conjures up images of some 5 year plan....

Even the Jets have the pieces to regroup after next year and compete...

The real key and question, as always is with the Front Office - If Mangini / Tannenbaum are for real, like we saw in Miami this past year, we should see immediate signs this year and necessary changes to continue and a competitve team the following year.

If THAT is rebuilding then sign me up - there's really no choice.

 
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Bri

Footballguy
I just don't think an team NFL is ever more than 3 years away from "Competing"....

I don't think Rebuilding is a proper term in the NFL anymore... Rebuilding conjures up images of some 5 year plan....

Even the Jets have the pieces to regroup after next year and compete...

The real key and question, as always is with the Front Office - If Mangini / Tannenbaum are for real, like we saw in Miami this past year, we should see immediate signs this year and necessary changes to continue and a competitve team the following year.

If THAT is rebuilding then sign me up - there's really no choice.
I know what you're trying to say(think so) and well what about the # of leaders they lost or will lose? For a quick reshuffle wouldn't a leader be essential? I feel like many Jets are gonna look at each other and say "I'm not the leader, are you?" and it'll be out of hwack there for a while.
 
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MLBrandow

Guest
All I know is in three years, this will be a Super Bowl Team.... I will just take the wait and see and be giddy approach.

 

Velcro

Footballguy
I know what you're trying to say(think so) and well what about the # of leaders they lost or will lose? For a quick reshuffle wouldn't a leader be essential? I feel like many Jets are gonna look at each other and say "I'm not the leader, are you?" and it'll be out of hwack there for a while.
That's a great point, but I look at Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, Big Ben and think that it's possible that leader hasn't been added yet. On the defensive side, my perception is that Vilma is that leader. Of course, I'm not in the locker room, so that may not be true.
 

Patoons

Footballguy
So many people are saying the Jets are going to be awful next year, but I don't see how anyone can say that given the fact that they didn't finish with the top pick THIS season.

There is no way next year's offense is any worse than this year having a third string QB for 3/4 of the season, a third string RB (or injured starting RB) AND half an offensive line out with injuries to finish up the year.

Jets are easily middle of the pack next year (which may not be a good thing- Brady Quinn/Peterson/Lynch could be a nice fit in the 2007 draft).

Vilma is definitely the leader on the defensive side- he seemed to take that spot halfway through his rookie year. As far as a leader on the offensive side, Curtis is a must to have back (maybe not a vocal leader, but clearly a guy who leads by example).

 

diesel7982

Footballguy
Jason,

Im going to post this, but please ignore the source.

JETS NET CAP HIT FOR CUTTING CHAD? ZERO

As the New York Jets try to finagle a reduction in quarterback Chad Pennington's 2006 wages, some NFL observers are explaining that the Jets have no real leverage because cutting Pennington would give rise to a $12 million cap hit.



We've confirmed that, indeed, dumping Pennington will result in a $12 million cap charge due to the $22 million he already has received under a contract signed in 2004. But cutting Pennington also will result in a savings of (you guessed it) $12 million owed to Pennington in 2006.

Meaning that the net cap hit technically would be zero.

But there's a minor twist. The Jets have the right to guarantee his 2006 base salary of $6 million. So if they keep Chad at his current wages in 2006 and guarantee the base, his cap number would be $10.5 million. Since cutting him would cost $12 million against the cap, the net cap hit as a practical matter would be $1.5 million.

But given that the CBA extension likely will get done, cutting Chad now gets him off the books, with no cap charges in future years. And because no one expects the Jets to do much on the field in 2006, it might be wise for the Two Utes who are running the show to bite the bullet now.

The bottom line here is that if Pennington refuses to take a significant pay reduction, the fact that cutting him creates a $12 million cap charge should not be an impediment to getting rid of him -- especially since keeping him at a $10.5 million cap number will require paying him $12 million in 2006, but taking a $12 million cap hit by releasing him requires the placement of no further cash into his already unjustifiably deep pockets.
Now, its possible PFT is just "making this up"...but lets assume they are not.Does this mean Penny is gone for sure?

 

Reaper

Footballguy
I just don't think an team NFL is ever more than 3 years away from "Competing"....

I don't think Rebuilding is a proper term in the NFL anymore... Rebuilding conjures up images of some 5 year plan....

Even the Jets have the pieces to regroup after next year and compete...

The real key and question, as always is with the Front Office - If Mangini / Tannenbaum are for real, like we saw in Miami this past year, we should see immediate signs this year and necessary changes to continue and a competitve team the following year.

If THAT is rebuilding then sign me up - there's really no choice.
I know what you're trying to say(think so) and well what about the # of leaders they lost or will lose? For a quick reshuffle wouldn't a leader be essential? I feel like many Jets are gonna look at each other and say "I'm not the leader, are you?" and it'll be out of hwack there for a while.
Who said Quick reshuffle - I have next year as a total Blow up year and then the following year "Competing" - You know, like Miami competed this year.My point was that I don't think that's a situation where you need "Patience" - Or Where "NY fans won't be patient enough for a rebuild" - There really isn't a choice - In 3 years ANY NFL team could be pretty much made over - Again, If that's rebuilding then so be it, But, again, I don't see where patience comes in - It is what it is.... Trying to fill holes in a bucket and holding on to guys liek Mawae, Kendall and Pennington aren't going to speed the process along - They need to clear money so Mangini can Build HIS team - He can't be handcuffed to old, bad salaries like the Jets allowed themselves to be the past few years where you can only get so good.

Vilma is the leader of the defense that has a Solid DL, solid Safetys and decent CB's with only a real need for depth and some interior beef and the QB is usually the leader of the offense - Whoever that will be. The Defense is pretty much set with hopefully better coaching....

We're looking for a QB and an OL, like Miami was last year.

 

Reaper

Footballguy
GB Jet fans hoping for a "Dolphin-like" turn around.
I gave the Jets an extra year to clear salary cap space....GDB Miami fans cockiness BACK :excited:

Even still - winning 8-9 games isn't the hard part - Even Miami still has the toughest challenge ahead of them and that's finding a QB and making the next leap to SB contender...

Hey, I say whatever team finds that franchise QB has the best future.... The Jets just may have the inside track on one of the top draft picks - Who knows though - the Jets could wind up with VY and Miami Cutler and Cutler may blow him away - Nobody knows.

 

ooofffaaa

Footballguy
GB Jet fans hoping for a "Dolphin-like" turn around.GDB Miami fans cockiness BACK :excited:
As a Dolphin fan living in NY for my whole life I am TOTALLY enjoying the Jets misery right now.

Are you 100% sure the Jets will be drafting a QB in the 1st round as opposed to a punter?

This is too easy.
 
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Reaper

Footballguy
GB Jet fans hoping for a "Dolphin-like" turn around.GDB Miami fans cockiness BACK :excited:
As a Dolphin fan living in NY for my whole life I am TOTALLY enjoying the Jets misery right now.

Are you 100% sure the Jets will be drafting a QB in the 1st round as opposed to a punter?

This is too easy.
Perspective My Man....

I've been a Jets fan for 26 years..

THIS is FAR FAR FAR from Misery.... I've seen Misery, THIS isn't it.

THIS is pretty much what I wanted.... Misery would have been another year of Herm Babbling, Bradway making excuses and the Jets extending long contracts to aging players based on past performance....

THIS is exciting :excited:

But, Is there a punter that's an early round grade :unsure:
 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
GB Jet fans hoping for a "Dolphin-like" turn around.GDB Miami fans cockiness BACK :excited:
As a Dolphin fan living in NY for my whole life I am TOTALLY enjoying the Jets misery right now.

Are you 100% sure the Jets will be drafting a QB in the 1st round as opposed to a punter?

This is too easy.
Perspective My Man....

I've been a Jets fan for 26 years..

THIS is FAR FAR FAR from Misery.... I've seen Misery, THIS isn't it.

THIS is pretty much what I wanted.... Misery would have been another year of Herm Babbling, Bradway making excuses and the Jets extending long contracts to aging players based on past performance....

THIS is exciting :excited:

But, Is there a punter that's an early round grade :unsure:
:lmao: You guys are safe...Graham seems to be a quality P.
 

ooofffaaa

Footballguy
Here's your man BluePeep . . .

With the #4 pick in the 2006 NFL draft the New York Jets select Ryan Plackemeier (Wake Forest).

Wake Forest's Ryan Plackemeier won the Ray Guy Award on Thursday night as the nation's top punter.

Plackemeier leads the nation in net punting (41.38) and average yards per punt (47.2).

Among those with 200 career attempts, he is the NCAA's career leading punter, with a career average of 45.26 yards.

The other finalists were Danny Baugher of Arizona and John Torp of Colorado.

 

zamboni

Footballguy
So many people are saying the Jets are going to be awful next year, but I don't see how anyone can say that given the fact that they didn't finish with the top pick THIS season.

There is no way next year's offense is any worse than this year having a third string QB for 3/4 of the season, a third string RB (or injured starting RB) AND half an offensive line out with injuries to finish up the year.

Jets are easily middle of the pack next year (which may not be a good thing- Brady Quinn/Peterson/Lynch could be a nice fit in the 2007 draft).

Vilma is definitely the leader on the defensive side- he seemed to take that spot halfway through his rookie year. As far as a leader on the offensive side, Curtis is a must to have back (maybe not a vocal leader, but clearly a guy who leads by example).
I agree, Patoons.Things are surely not looking good now, but it's WAY too presumptuous to say right now that the team will be cellar dwellers. Let's see what they do in the draft and free agency first.

If Mangini is anywhere near the kind of coach that they believe him to be, they can be respectable. Maybe not sniffing the playoffs, but respectable.

And if he's not ready for primetime, then yes, times will be tough for the next few years.

 

Sopranos

Footballguy
IMO offering Penny 1 Mill this season was an insult. He knows he will get 9mill or more if he was cut. Make an offer for like 3-4 million. With his career at a 50% chance he will play again,why would he take 1 million. Not enough to live the next 60 years on.They need to find out if the guy can play. If they dont think he can then cut him. It will hurt the team.Buty for a shorter time than if they keep him around for a few years on the bench. They have a good defense so they need to get the offense going before they start losing their defensive players. I would go RB then QB in the draft..

 

Kiddnets

Footballguy
This is the best thing that the JEts can do - they finally have a mgt team that will sack it up and do what needs to be done. Cut them all! They can win 4 games without overpaid bums. I'm willing to sacrafice 2006 for the greater good.

Get out from the mess and lay the foundation - the JEts are finally going in the right direction....even if it will be ugly for a while.

 

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