Shark Pool Mock Draft 2011 - 4 Rounds (1 Viewer)

[Cassius]

1.17 Patriots select Wisconsin DE J.J. Watt

 

[captain_amazing]

1.17 Patriots select Wisconsin DE J.J. Watt

Quinn then JJ Watt - so under the circumstances, very good

 

[chinawildman]

Hey Tampa Bay (Kirby), how 'bout we swap 3rd round picks for Josh Johnson?

 

[adrenaline]

1.17 Patriots select Wisconsin DE J.J. Watt

Should be a three down player from day one. He's a much needed upgrade to a mid-ranked and young D in putting pressure on the QB. Would have loved to see Cam Jordan fall to 17.

NFLPost on Watt:

former Central Michigan transfer who made the move from tight end upon his arrival to Wisconsin in 2008. A tall, long-armed kid with a leaner-looking frame and has the ability to add even more girth to his frame. Displays impressive bend and flexibility when asked to coil up and sit into his stance off the edge. Has played both from a three- and four-point stance at end, has stood up on the outside and even kicked inside to tackle on pass downs. Possesses a sneaky first step off the football and because of his length and natural burst can quickly get on top of defensive tackles toward the edge. Allows his pad level to get up easily when trying to reach the corner and doesn't have the type of fluidity/bend to drop his pad level and flatten around the edge, but loves to work his spin move back underneath in order to find the quarterback. Has a powerful set of hands into contact and can really jar defenders initially at the point of attack on his bull rush and walk his way into the backfield. Also does a nice job using his long arms on the edge when trying to reach the corner, loves to work the arm over both inside and out and has some above-average short-area quickness for a guy his size. Can work the inside move off the snap both lined up as a DE and DT and has the body control to quickly slide step the block and keep himself clean before closing on the passer. Isn't a dynamic speed rusher by any stretch though and relies more on his inside counter, power and length o fight his way off blocks. Allows his pad level to get upright when he tries to change directions and fight his way though contact inside, but he has a motor that runs nonstop and works hard through the play.

Delivers a nasty jolt at the point of attack in the run game. Extends his arms well, keeps his base down and can really rock opposing blockers on contact. Displays some short-area quickness when asked to slip blocks upright as well and can make his way into the backfield. However, when trying to cross the face of opposing linemen inside and crash down the line, gets too upright with his pad level, doesn't protect his frame and can easily be washed away down the line. But, as an in-line guy, knows how to anchor at the point, set the edge and play off blocks when run at. Finds the football well for the most part and has good read and react ability. Nevertheless, is a bit limited as a stop and start athlete and doesn't have a real burst initially when asked to close and is more of a high motor strider in pursuit.

Impression: A tall, long-armed physical defensive end who has the versatility to play as either as a DE in a 3-4 and as DE/three-technique in a 4-3. He plays hard, is a natural bender for his size and looks like a solid contributor as a three-down lineman in the NFL in any scheme he plays. Will be on just about every team's draft board.

This guy was an absolute beast at the combine. Interestingly this is who McShay had NE taking in his latest mock. I agree with what Kiper has to say about him. (partial quote) "Watt has a chance to be a tremendous player at that position. A high-energy guy capable of diagnosing plays, contributing in various schemes, and holding up well against the run while getting after quarterbacks in the pass game, he's the kind of low-risk pick that makes sense"

 

[Tackling Dummies]

This guy was an absolute beast at the combine. Interestingly this is who McShay had NE taking in his latest mock. I agree with what Kiper has to say about him. (partial quote) "Watt has a chance to be a tremendous player at that position. A high-energy guy capable of diagnosing plays, contributing in various schemes, and holding up well against the run while getting after quarterbacks in the pass game, he's the kind of low-risk pick that makes sense"

I would LOVE to see the Pats get Watt. I put a short list together for the 28 pick & hoping a particular player stays on the board. In reality, I can see BB moving one of these picks (17) to a QB-needy team and continuing to stockpile picks.

 

[KeeferMan]

Chargers take Anthony Castanzo, OT Boston College

 

[Blackjacks]

I like the Cameron Jordan pick for the Rams.

thanks

 

[Cipherchris]

1.15 Miami Dolphins - Mike Pouncey, OL, Florida

Not too into any of the QBs in this year's draft (or in free agency either for that matter), so the plan is to put some more pieces around Chad Henne and hope he takes a big step forward this year. Pouncey will fit nicely into our offensive line and should have an impact right away. Miami's owner has already shown a willingness to spend some money and likes to make a splash in free agency. I fully expect him to go strong after DeAngelo Williams and probably a WR (Malcom Floyd) and TE (Kevin Boss) in free agency -- whenever that starts.

I'm not high on Ingram, who most have Miami taking, and there are no DBs worthy of the 15th pick, so S will have to be addressed later...

This pick is golden, much neeeded. I see Pouncey as the guy least likely to flop in this draft. Nice!

I don't know man. A man...Pouncey doesn;t seem to be a very smart person... His tweet about being a cowboy just...doesn't reflect well on his intelligence...

 

[Blackjacks]

With the 14th overall selection in the 2011 NFL Draft the St. Louis Rams select CAMERON JORDAN DE CALIFORNIA

James Hall had a very good year for the Rams with 10.5 sacks but I think he benifitted from Chris Long alot to achieve those numbers.

Jordan will be a nice fit to the young defense for years to come. He is better against the run than rushing the passer which is something Rams could use help with but he does posses skills to rush the passer. Cameron's stock has been improving quickly since the senior bowl. Cameron is a very good tackler who can get in the backfield quickly due to using his hands so well. He is a Spags type guy, big, disciplined and fundamentally sound with a go go go motor.

Some Rams fans might want hometown product Aldon Smith right here and while tempted Aldon is still a project. The Rams are actually in a descent spot right now in the inferior NFC West but they cant afford quite yet to take high picks based on upside plus Aldon will be better used in a 3-4 defense at the next level. Of course we would have loved for Julio to fall to us but with Avery coming back along with Clayton to go with Darnario Alexander I think our wr corp is better than most people give us credit for.

I think most realistic Rams fans are looking at this pick being DE. It is a need for our team, it might not be sexy but it is a need. I think a corner could be a need or a safety but I didn't like what was available. DT could be an option also but I like the future of our franchise with the bookend tackles on the right and left side of the offense and of the defense.

I like the player & like that he fills a need. Pretty quick for a guy his size, big enough he could possibly rotate inside. Well done.

thanks

 

[shamrock84]

1.15 Miami Dolphins - Mike Pouncey, OL, Florida

Not too into any of the QBs in this year's draft (or in free agency either for that matter), so the plan is to put some more pieces around Chad Henne and hope he takes a big step forward this year. Pouncey will fit nicely into our offensive line and should have an impact right away. Miami's owner has already shown a willingness to spend some money and likes to make a splash in free agency. I fully expect him to go strong after DeAngelo Williams and probably a WR (Malcom Floyd) and TE (Kevin Boss) in free agency -- whenever that starts.

I'm not high on Ingram, who most have Miami taking, and there are no DBs worthy of the 15th pick, so S will have to be addressed later...

This pick is golden, much neeeded. I see Pouncey as the guy least likely to flop in this draft. Nice!

I don't know man. A man...Pouncey doesn;t seem to be a very smart person... His tweet about being a cowboy just...doesn't reflect well on his intelligence...

Oof.. talk about

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The Steelers could very well be looking to move #31 down into the the early 2nd.

PMs are cool.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

Oof.. talk about

Why's it all about color with "you people?"

 

[adrenaline]

1.15 Miami Dolphins - Mike Pouncey, OL, Florida

Not too into any of the QBs in this year's draft (or in free agency either for that matter), so the plan is to put some more pieces around Chad Henne and hope he takes a big step forward this year. Pouncey will fit nicely into our offensive line and should have an impact right away. Miami's owner has already shown a willingness to spend some money and likes to make a splash in free agency. I fully expect him to go strong after DeAngelo Williams and probably a WR (Malcom Floyd) and TE (Kevin Boss) in free agency -- whenever that starts.

I'm not high on Ingram, who most have Miami taking, and there are no DBs worthy of the 15th pick, so S will have to be addressed later...

This pick is golden, much neeeded. I see Pouncey as the guy least likely to flop in this draft. Nice!

I don't know man. A man...Pouncey doesn;t seem to be a very smart person... His tweet about being a cowboy just...doesn't reflect well on his intelligence...

lol cuz that's going to affect his performance. Anyone have his wonderlic test results? I bet he scored higher than half the guys already drafted.

 

[craxie]

Chargers take Anthony Castanzo, OT Boston College

seems a bit early to take a RT, plus they seem to like Clary for some unknown reasonIf the draft falls out like this, I'll1. punch AJ in the face for not trading up to grab JJ Watt2. hope they select Justin Houston or possibly Phil Taylor

 

[J Andersson]

With the 19th pick of the first round the New York Football Giants select Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

This really comes down to Carimi or Solder and the question whether one think Carimi can play left tackle in the pros.

I happen to think just that (hey, if David Diehl can play left tackle what would stop Carimi). Most likely the Giants would have been interested in Castonzo if he had slipped past San Diego. They generally like BC linemen. Carimi is a player that in this scenario fits the mold of a Giants player. He plays with a mean streak and is versatile to be able to play in most positions on their o-line.

Solder is no doubt an intriguing prospect but he's still pretty raw. He could be the next Tony Boselli but he could also be the next Robert Gallery. Gabe Carimi is a safer and sounder pick here.

 

[J Andersson]

Hey Tampa Bay (Kirby), how 'bout we swap 3rd round picks for Josh Johnson?

I think I'd be prepared to part with Josh Johnson for just about anything in return...

 

[Blackjacks]

With the 19th pick of the first round the New York Football Giants select Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

This really comes down to Carimi or Solder and the question whether one think Carimi can play left tackle in the pros.

I happen to think just that (hey, if David Diehl can play left tackle what would stop Carimi). Most likely the Giants would have been interested in Castonzo if he had slipped past San Diego. They generally like BC linemen. Carimi is a player that in this scenario fits the mold of a Giants player. He plays with a mean streak and is versatile to be able to play in most positions on their o-line.

Solder is no doubt an intriguing prospect but he's still pretty raw. He could be the next Tony Boselli but he could also be the next Robert Gallery. Gabe Carimi is a safer and sounder pick here.

I've done 2 mocks and in both I have the Giants taking Mark Ingram. What do you think the chances are the go rb in thr 1st round?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I think that's bit high for Pouncey. He's not as good as his brother.

Not a bad pick for San Diego, but in this scenario, I think they're more likely to take either Wilkerson or Liuget.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Just to get people caught up and can easily see who has/hasn't already been selected:

Tampa Bay is on the clock.

Round 1

1. Carolina Panthers (Donsmith753) - A.J. Green (WR, Georgia)

2. Denver Broncos (BusMan) - Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)

3. Buffalo Bills (Mr. Peterson)
 - Cam Newton (QB, Auburn)

4. Cincinnati Bengals (comet909) - Patrick Peterson (CB, LSU)


5. Arizona Cardinals (Andy Dufresne) - Von Miller (LB, Texas A&M)

*6. Tennessee Titans (shader) - Blaine Gabbert (QB, Missouri) (Titans give up 3.13)

7. San Francisco 49ers (chinawildman) - Julio Jones (WR, Alabama)


*8. Cleveland Browns (gandalas) - Nick Fairley (DT, Auburn) (Cleveland acquires 3.13)

9. Dallas Cowboys (asn4play) - Tyron Smith (OT, USC)

10. Washington Redskins (matttyl) - Robert Quinn (DE, North Carolina)

11. Houston Texans (Yellow Line is Unoffcial) - Da'Quan Bowers (DE, Clemson)

12. Minnesota Vikings (Andy Dufresne) - Jake Locker (QB, Washington)

13. Detroit Lions (eakfootball)
 - Prince Amukamara (CB, Nebraska)

14. St. Louis Rams (Blackjack)
 - Cameron Jordan (DE, California)

15. Miami Dolphins (Dolfan) - Mike Pouncey (OL, Florida)

16. Jacksonville Jaguars (CompetitiveEdgeFootball)
 - Aldon Smith (DE, Missouri)

17. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies) - J. J. Watt (DE, Wisconsin)

18. San Diego Chargers ( KeeferMan)


KeeferMan

Posted Yesterday, 09:02 PM

Chargers take Anthony Castanzo, OT Boston College

19. New York Giants (J Andersson)

J Andersson

Posted Today, 01:47 AM

With the 19th pick of the first round the New York Football Giants select Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers(Kirby)

 

[Getinthemix]

I think that's bit high for Pouncey. He's not as good as his brother.

Not a bad pick for San Diego, but in this scenario, I think they're more likely to take either Wilkerson or Liuget.

He also is mostly limited to Guard unless he really improves his snapping.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

With the 19th pick of the first round the New York Football Giants select Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

This really comes down to Carimi or Solder and the question whether one think Carimi can play left tackle in the pros.

I happen to think just that (hey, if David Diehl can play left tackle what would stop Carimi). Most likely the Giants would have been interested in Castonzo if he had slipped past San Diego. They generally like BC linemen. Carimi is a player that in this scenario fits the mold of a Giants player. He plays with a mean streak and is versatile to be able to play in most positions on their o-line.

Solder is no doubt an intriguing prospect but he's still pretty raw. He could be the next Tony Boselli but he could also be the next Robert Gallery. Gabe Carimi is a safer and sounder pick here.

I've done 2 mocks and in both I have the Giants taking Mark Ingram. What do you think the chances are the go rb in thr 1st round?

I like the OL pick though. The giants have 2 backs that are startable, and i think they're still trying to bring Danny ware along too aren't they?I guess if they thought Ingram was clearly the BPA when it came time to pull the trigger. But I don't see that being the case, because a lot of talking heads have Ingram falling out of the first round completely unless Miami grabs him mid-round.

 

[KeeferMan]

Chargers take Anthony Castanzo, OT Boston College

seems a bit early to take a RT, plus they seem to like Clary for some unknown reasonIf the draft falls out like this, I'll1. punch AJ in the face for not trading up to grab JJ Watt2. hope they select Justin Houston or possibly Phil Taylor

I hear you. I hate the way this draft fell. I thought about Taylor, Liuget,or even Cam Heyward but didnt think the value was there.The chargers seem to like clary but for years the fans wanted a legit right tackle to anchor the line. This guy is mayock's top tackle in the draft and a pro ready type player that can instantly help the team which I thinks key when you have a team with a lot of talent especially with the lockout possibly limiting practice etc.Hopefully I can address d well in the second round and beyond..

 

[KCitons]

KC Chiefs are interested in trading out of the 21st pick in the first round. Maybe ATL or Chicago?? Anyone interested, let me know.

I have a couple of guys, I'm ready to pick. I will be leaving in about an hour, for the day. I will check in periodically.

I sent a PM to chinawildman, he knows what to do with my pick.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Just to get people caught up and can easily see who has/hasn't already been selected:

Tampa Bay is on the clock.

Round 1

1. Carolina Panthers (Donsmith753) - A.J. Green (WR, Georgia)

2. Denver Broncos (BusMan) - Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)

3. Buffalo Bills (Mr. Peterson)
 - Cam Newton (QB, Auburn)

4. Cincinnati Bengals (comet909) - Patrick Peterson (CB, LSU)


5. Arizona Cardinals (Andy Dufresne) - Von Miller (LB, Texas A&M)

*6. Tennessee Titans (shader) - Blaine Gabbert (QB, Missouri) (Titans give up 3.13)

7. San Francisco 49ers (chinawildman) - Julio Jones (WR, Alabama)


*8. Cleveland Browns (gandalas) - Nick Fairley (DT, Auburn) (Cleveland acquires 3.13)

9. Dallas Cowboys (asn4play) - Tyron Smith (OT, USC)

10. Washington Redskins (matttyl) - Robert Quinn (DE, North Carolina)

11. Houston Texans (Yellow Line is Unoffcial) - Da'Quan Bowers (DE, Clemson)

12. Minnesota Vikings (Andy Dufresne) - Jake Locker (QB, Washington)

13. Detroit Lions (eakfootball)
 - Prince Amukamara (CB, Nebraska)

14. St. Louis Rams (Blackjack)
 - Cameron Jordan (DE, California)

15. Miami Dolphins (Dolfan) - Mike Pouncey (OL, Florida)

16. Jacksonville Jaguars (CompetitiveEdgeFootball)
 - Aldon Smith (DE, Missouri)

17. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies) - J. J. Watt (DE, Wisconsin)

18. San Diego Chargers ( KeeferMan)


KeeferMan

Posted Yesterday, 09:02 PM

Chargers take Anthony Castanzo, OT Boston College

19. New York Giants (J Andersson)

J Andersson

Posted Today, 01:47 AM

With the 19th pick of the first round the New York Football Giants select Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers(Kirby)

Here's a cheat-sheet of the top remaining players still left that I stole from a couple of different draft sites, the players are listed in decending order of ratings from a couple of different mocks so the first player was considered the highest rated at their position over the next listed player.Best players left:

QB - QB Christian Ponder Florida State, QB Colin Kaepernick Nevada,

QB Ryan Mallett Arkansas, QB Andy Dalton TCU,

OL - OT Nate Solder Colorado, OT Danny Watkins Baylor, OT Derek Sherrod Mississippi State, OL Benjamin Ijalana Villanova, G/C Stefen Wisniewski Penn State

TE - TE Kyle Rudolph Notre Dame

WR - WR Torrey Smith Maryland, WR Jon Baldwin Pittsburgh, WR Leonard Hankerson Miami, WR/KE Randall Cobb Kentucky,

RB - RB Mark Ingram Alabama, RB Mikel Leshoure Illinois, RB Ryan Williams Virginia Tech

DL - Corey Liuget DT Illinois, DT-DE Muhammad Wilkerson Temple, DE Adrian Clayborn Iowa, DE Cameron Heyward Ohio State, DT/NT Phil Taylor Baylor, DT Marvin Austin North Carolina, DE/DT Christian Ballard Iowa, DT/NT Stephen Paea Oregon State

LB - Ryan Kerrigan DE/OLB Purdue, OLB/DE Akeem Ayers UCLA, OLB/DE Justin Houston Georgia, OLB/DE Brooks Reed Arizona, MLB Martez Wilson Illinois

CB - CB Jimmy Smith Colorado, CB/FS Aaron Williams Texas, CB Brandon Harris Miami

S - FS Rahim Moore UCLA

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

Just to get people caught up and can easily see who has/hasn't already been selected:

Tampa Bay is on the clock.

Round 1

1. Carolina Panthers (Donsmith753) - A.J. Green (WR, Georgia)

2. Denver Broncos (BusMan) - Marcell Dareus (DT, Alabama)

3. Buffalo Bills (Mr. Peterson)
 - Cam Newton (QB, Auburn)

4. Cincinnati Bengals (comet909) - Patrick Peterson (CB, LSU)


5. Arizona Cardinals (Andy Dufresne) - Von Miller (LB, Texas A&M)

*6. Tennessee Titans (shader) - Blaine Gabbert (QB, Missouri) (Titans give up 3.13)

7. San Francisco 49ers (chinawildman) - Julio Jones (WR, Alabama)


*8. Cleveland Browns (gandalas) - Nick Fairley (DT, Auburn) (Cleveland acquires 3.13)

9. Dallas Cowboys (asn4play) - Tyron Smith (OT, USC)

10. Washington Redskins (matttyl) - Robert Quinn (DE, North Carolina)

11. Houston Texans (Yellow Line is Unoffcial) - Da'Quan Bowers (DE, Clemson)

12. Minnesota Vikings (Andy Dufresne) - Jake Locker (QB, Washington)

13. Detroit Lions (eakfootball)
 - Prince Amukamara (CB, Nebraska)

14. St. Louis Rams (Blackjack)
 - Cameron Jordan (DE, California)

15. Miami Dolphins (Dolfan) - Mike Pouncey (OL, Florida)

16. Jacksonville Jaguars (CompetitiveEdgeFootball)
 - Aldon Smith (DE, Missouri)

17. New England Patriots (Tackling Dummies) - J. J. Watt (DE, Wisconsin)

18. San Diego Chargers ( KeeferMan)


KeeferMan

Posted Yesterday, 09:02 PM

Chargers take Anthony Castanzo, OT Boston College

19. New York Giants (J Andersson)

J Andersson

Posted Today, 01:47 AM

With the 19th pick of the first round the New York Football Giants select Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers(Kirby)

Here's a cheat-sheet of the top remaining players still left that I stole from a couple of different draft sites, the players are listed in decending order of ratings from a couple of different mocks so the first player was considered the highest rated at their position over the next listed player.Best players left:

QB - QB Christian Ponder Florida State, QB Colin Kaepernick Nevada,

QB Ryan Mallett Arkansas, QB Andy Dalton TCU,

OL - OT Nate Solder Colorado, OT Danny Watkins Baylor, OT Derek Sherrod Mississippi State, OL Benjamin Ijalana Villanova, G/C Stefen Wisniewski Penn State

TE - TE Kyle Rudolph Notre Dame

WR - WR Torrey Smith Maryland, WR Jon Baldwin Pittsburgh, WR Leonard Hankerson Miami, WR/KE Randall Cobb Kentucky,

RB - RB Mark Ingram Alabama, RB Mikel Leshoure Illinois, RB Ryan Williams Virginia Tech

DL - Corey Liuget DT Illinois, DT-DE Muhammad Wilkerson Temple, DE Adrian Clayborn Iowa, DE Cameron Heyward Ohio State, DT/NT Phil Taylor Baylor, DT Marvin Austin North Carolina, DE/DT Christian Ballard Iowa, DT/NT Stephen Paea Oregon State

LB - Ryan Kerrigan DE/OLB Purdue, OLB/DE Akeem Ayers UCLA, OLB/DE Justin Houston Georgia, OLB/DE Brooks Reed Arizona, MLB Martez Wilson Illinois

CB - CB Jimmy Smith Colorado, CB/FS Aaron Williams Texas, CB Brandon Harris Miami

S - FS Rahim Moore UCLA

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

So with the TB pick next, which way do they go?

TB was one of the teams I thought might try to move up in this draft. This is a team on the rise, the franchise seems to be going in the right direction.

I think most expect TB to go defense here. Maybe loading up with Kerrigan at end or gambling on Bowers health. Is it too early to pull the trigger on Jimmy Smith at CB to replace Talib and his issues?

Justin Houston or akeem ayers?

Is it a forgone conclusion they go defense? There's not a lot of RB depth on this team. Blount looks like he will be able to carry at least a large part of the load, but graham and caddy are no longer viable starting options, and Kareem huggins is returning off a serious injury. It's possible they could look at Ingram here, at least in my opinion. This is an interesting pick.

 

[RJS113]

So with the TB pick next, which way do they go?TB was one of the teams I thought might try to move up in this draft. This is a team on the rise, the franchise seems to be going in the right direction.I think most expect TB to go defense here. Maybe loading up with Kerrigan at end or gambling on Bowers health. Is it too early to pull the trigger on Jimmy Smith at CB to replace Talib and his issues?Justin Houston or akeem ayers?Is it a forgone conclusion they go defense? There's not a lot of RB depth on this team. Blount looks like he will be able to carry at least a large part of the load, but graham and caddy are no longer viable starting options, and Kareem hugging is returning off a serious injury. It's possible they could look at Ingram here, at least in my opinion. This is an interesting pick.

Kerrigan is definitely the pick here. The Bucs are likely to trade up for either Kerrigan or Jordan.

 

[Ridgelake]

How is Tampa's OLine? Sherrod might make a really nice piece for them if they need an OT.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

So with the TB pick next, which way do they go?TB was one of the teams I thought might try to move up in this draft. This is a team on the rise, the franchise seems to be going in the right direction.I think most expect TB to go defense here. Maybe loading up with Kerrigan at end or gambling on Bowers health. Is it too early to pull the trigger on Jimmy Smith at CB to replace Talib and his issues?Justin Houston or akeem ayers?Is it a forgone conclusion they go defense? There's not a lot of RB depth on this team. Blount looks like he will be able to carry at least a large part of the load, but graham and caddy are no longer viable starting options, and Kareem hugging is returning off a serious injury. It's possible they could look at Ingram here, at least in my opinion. This is an interesting pick.

Kerrigan is definitely the pick here. The Bucs are likely to trade up for either Kerrigan or Jordan.

I dunno. THe consensus pick in many mocks for TB is DE Adrian Clayborn. They used their top two picks last year on D-Lineman (both DTs McCoy and Price) so I'm guessing that they want to load that position but it seems unispired/wasteful to keep throwing top picks at the D-line position when they can capitalize on what is happening with that fast-rising offense.I agree with CEF that Ingram sure would look good paired with Blount but I read that Atlanta was taking a hard look at TE Rudolph to replace Gonzo and I thought that was smart thinking.Now I see TB with Kellen Winslow and two young WRs but KWII is gimpy and they could use another stud TE to play two-TE sets and really create havoc with Freeman and Mike Williams and Arealous Benn and Blount. I think they could get a lot more bang from their buck if they got creative and went offense with the pick but if they go defense then I think it will be Clayborn.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

So with the TB pick next, which way do they go?TB was one of the teams I thought might try to move up in this draft. This is a team on the rise, the franchise seems to be going in the right direction.I think most expect TB to go defense here. Maybe loading up with Kerrigan at end or gambling on Bowers health. Is it too early to pull the trigger on Jimmy Smith at CB to replace Talib and his issues?Justin Houston or akeem ayers?Is it a forgone conclusion they go defense? There's not a lot of RB depth on this team. Blount looks like he will be able to carry at least a large part of the load, but graham and caddy are no longer viable starting options, and Kareem hugging is returning off a serious injury. It's possible they could look at Ingram here, at least in my opinion. This is an interesting pick.

Kerrigan is definitely the pick here. The Bucs are likely to trade up for either Kerrigan or Jordan.

I dunno. THe consensus pick in many mocks for TB is DE Adrian Clayborn. They used their top two picks last year on D-Lineman (both DTs McCoy and Price) so I'm guessing that they want to load that position but it seems unispired/wasteful to keep throwing top picks at the D-line position when they can capitalize on what is happening with that fast-rising offense.I agree with CEF that Ingram sure would look good paired with Blount but I read that Atlanta was taking a hard look at TE Rudolph to replace Gonzo and I thought that was smart thinking.Now I see TB with Kellen Winslow and two young WRs but KWII is gimpy and they could use another stud TE to play two-TE sets and really create havoc with Freeman and Mike Williams and Arealous Benn and Blount. I think they could get a lot more bang from their buck if they got creative and went offense with the pick but if they go defense then I think it will be Clayborn.

I was musing about the ND TE also. It's another possibility. I tend to agree with you guys here, it's Kerrigan/clayborn. But a TE or Ingram would be a wild twist.You also can never have enough quality OL. Sherrod would certainly be a solid pick to protect Freeman.

 

[J Andersson]

With the 19th pick of the first round the New York Football Giants select Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

This really comes down to Carimi or Solder and the question whether one think Carimi can play left tackle in the pros.

I happen to think just that (hey, if David Diehl can play left tackle what would stop Carimi). Most likely the Giants would have been interested in Castonzo if he had slipped past San Diego. They generally like BC linemen. Carimi is a player that in this scenario fits the mold of a Giants player. He plays with a mean streak and is versatile to be able to play in most positions on their o-line.

Solder is no doubt an intriguing prospect but he's still pretty raw. He could be the next Tony Boselli but he could also be the next Robert Gallery. Gabe Carimi is a safer and sounder pick here.

I've done 2 mocks and in both I have the Giants taking Mark Ingram. What do you think the chances are the go rb in thr 1st round?

I like the OL pick though. The giants have 2 backs that are startable, and i think they're still trying to bring Danny ware along too aren't they?I guess if they thought Ingram was clearly the BPA when it came time to pull the trigger. But I don't see that being the case, because a lot of talking heads have Ingram falling out of the first round completely unless Miami grabs him mid-round.

I would think the obvious choice for the Giants is to upgrade at left tackle. They're in a good spot to be able to do so and might have the choice of Castonzo, Carimi or Solder (much depending on what NE will do). Even if they take a pure BPA approach picking an OT isn't out of the question. I think RB is one of their least pressing needs plus Ingram has some questions surrounding him (knees in bad shape?). I see LB as the most obvious one but the class of 4-3 LB prospects isn't what they would like and there certainly isn't .

 

[Abrantes]

With the 14th overall selection in the 2011 NFL Draft the St. Louis Rams select CAMERON JORDAN DE CALIFORNIA

James Hall had a very good year for the Rams with 10.5 sacks but I think he benifitted from Chris Long alot to achieve those numbers.

Jordan will be a nice fit to the young defense for years to come. He is better against the run than rushing the passer which is something Rams could use help with but he does posses skills to rush the passer. Cameron's stock has been improving quickly since the senior bowl. Cameron is a very good tackler who can get in the backfield quickly due to using his hands so well. He is a Spags type guy, big, disciplined and fundamentally sound with a go go go motor.

Some Rams fans might want hometown product Aldon Smith right here and while tempted Aldon is still a project. The Rams are actually in a descent spot right now in the inferior NFC West but they cant afford quite yet to take high picks based on upside plus Aldon will be better used in a 3-4 defense at the next level. Of course we would have loved for Julio to fall to us but with Avery coming back along with Clayton to go with Darnario Alexander I think our wr corp is better than most people give us credit for.

I think most realistic Rams fans are looking at this pick being DE. It is a need for our team, it might not be sexy but it is a need. I think a corner could be a need or a safety but I didn't like what was available. DT could be an option also but I like the future of our franchise with the bookend tackles on the right and left side of the offense and of the defense.

I do like the pick, as I liked it a while back in Andy's mock. Jordan can probably move inside for specific packages (like James Hall), and I'm sure that versatility draws Spags' eye.However, I think you're selling Aldon Smith a little short in the description. He has a ton of upside, but it's not like he's raw. Also, I don't see him as a better fit in a 3-4 at all, but we'll see how the draft plays out.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

1.17 Patriots select Wisconsin DE J.J. Watt

Quinn then JJ Watt - so under the circumstances, very good

Yep I agree guys. I'd loooooooove the pats to grab this player. He's been placed there by quite a few draftniks as well.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

With the 14th overall selection in the 2011 NFL Draft the St. Louis Rams select CAMERON JORDAN DE CALIFORNIA

James Hall had a very good year for the Rams with 10.5 sacks but I think he benifitted from Chris Long alot to achieve those numbers.

Jordan will be a nice fit to the young defense for years to come. He is better against the run than rushing the passer which is something Rams could use help with but he does posses skills to rush the passer. Cameron's stock has been improving quickly since the senior bowl. Cameron is a very good tackler who can get in the backfield quickly due to using his hands so well. He is a Spags type guy, big, disciplined and fundamentally sound with a go go go motor.

Some Rams fans might want hometown product Aldon Smith right here and while tempted Aldon is still a project. The Rams are actually in a descent spot right now in the inferior NFC West but they cant afford quite yet to take high picks based on upside plus Aldon will be better used in a 3-4 defense at the next level. Of course we would have loved for Julio to fall to us but with Avery coming back along with Clayton to go with Darnario Alexander I think our wr corp is better than most people give us credit for.

I think most realistic Rams fans are looking at this pick being DE. It is a need for our team, it might not be sexy but it is a need. I think a corner could be a need or a safety but I didn't like what was available. DT could be an option also but I like the future of our franchise with the bookend tackles on the right and left side of the offense and of the defense.

I do like the pick, as I liked it a while back in Andy's mock. Jordan can probably move inside for specific packages (like James Hall), and I'm sure that versatility draws Spags' eye.However, I think you're selling Aldon Smith a little short in the description. He has a ton of upside, but it's not like he's raw. Also, I don't see him as a better fit in a 3-4 at all, but we'll see how the draft plays out.

That's the thing about player evaluation. Two people can look at a player and have different ideas about his capabilities.The thing about Aldon- he's still young. He came out a year earlier than expected. He's freakishly athletic, which lends itself to versatility, so he can put his hands down and play end, or stand up and play some LB, even drop into coverage with his speed.

The question marks are- his lean build- will it impede him trying to rush inside?

This type of DE/OLB are very hit/miss. These guys could end up as successful as DeMarcus Ware or as disappointing as Vernon Gholston.

I picked him for Jax because I do love his upside.

 

[Kirby]

1.20 Tampa Bay selects Ryan Kerrigan.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

1.20 Tampa Bay selects Ryan Kerrigan.

Makes sense.

 

[JetMaxx]

KC Chiefs are interested in trading out of the 21st pick in the first round. Maybe ATL or Chicago?? Anyone interested, let me know. I have a couple of guys, I'm ready to pick. I will be leaving in about an hour, for the day. I will check in periodically. I sent a PM to chinawildman, he knows what to do with my pick.

I'm interested in moving up from 21. PM Sent.

 

[KCitons]

I got the pm. Trading a 5th round pick is no good. We are only drafting 3 rounds.

So, with the 21st pick. The KC Chiefs will take NT Phil Taylor from Baylor.

I really wanted to move down to take Taylor. Even though he's a good fit for the 3-4 in KC. I think he's more of a early 2nd round talent.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I think either Solder or Sherrod makes the most sense for the Colts here.

 

[Blackjacks]

sure would be nice to get a couple of more picks in tonight.

 

[JetMaxx]

I'm ready. I really want one guy but will gladly take the other available.

 

[Cipherchris]

Sorry for the late post, been out of the house all day

With the 1.22 pick the Indianapolis Colts select: Corey Liuget, DT Illinois

Sure, Solder or Sherrod would make sense to patch up the horrible O-line men, but the Colts have been burned by previous O-line men, and their best O line guy is picked up from the undrafted FA pool (J. Saturday). So the first and most pressing priority would be to take someone who can help stop the run on D.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I'm with 5rings. I hate the Niners pick. But if that's how it goes in real life I'll trust the coaches. I just can't imagine they will take a wr. But I do like Jones more than Green.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Sorry for the late post, been out of the house all dayWith the 1.22 pick the Indianapolis Colts select: Corey Liuget, DT IllinoisSure, Solder or Sherrod would make sense to patch up the horrible O-line men, but the Colts have been burned by previous O-line men, and their best O line guy is picked up from the undrafted FA pool (J. Saturday). So the first and most pressing priority would be to take someone who can help stop the run on D.

Excellent.I was gonna post how one of the interior D-Line made more sense to me, but I didn't want to spotlight.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The Steelers could very well be looking to move #31 down into the the early 2nd. PMs are cool.

 

[eakfootball]

The Steelers could very well be looking to move #31 down into the the early 2nd. PMs are cool.

Based on whos left I might have some interest in trading up from the lions 2nd. I'l PM you if I'm still interested when the pick comes.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

The Steelers could very well be looking to move #31 down into the the early 2nd. PMs are cool.

Based on whos left I might have some interest in trading up from the lions 2nd. I'l PM you if I'm still interested when the pick comes.

Same here. Might be interested depending on whos there but at what cost?

 

[Blackjacks]

Sorry for the late post, been out of the house all dayWith the 1.22 pick the Indianapolis Colts select: Corey Liuget, DT IllinoisSure, Solder or Sherrod would make sense to patch up the horrible O-line men, but the Colts have been burned by previous O-line men, and their best O line guy is picked up from the undrafted FA pool (J. Saturday). So the first and most pressing priority would be to take someone who can help stop the run on D.

I like the pick also

 

[JetMaxx]

Sorry for the late post, been out of the house all dayWith the 1.22 pick the Indianapolis Colts select: Corey Liuget, DT IllinoisSure, Solder or Sherrod would make sense to patch up the horrible O-line men, but the Colts have been burned by previous O-line men, and their best O line guy is picked up from the undrafted FA pool (J. Saturday). So the first and most pressing priority would be to take someone who can help stop the run on D.

Excellent.I was gonna post how one of the interior D-Line made more sense to me, but I didn't want to spotlight.

Exactly why I wanted to leap frog the Colts. A pass rushing, impact DT is desperately needed on the Eagles who have struggled with the interior pass rush for way too long. With that I will make the selection:With the 1.23 pick the Philadelphia Eagles select: Nate Solder, OT ColoradoSolder provides an athletic prospect at the OT position moving forward. A legit franchise LT prospect at this point in the draft are rare so Solder made more sense than Harris or Smith at CB.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Based on whos left

This is obvious for almost any team I do believe.Ws just hoping to do some legwork before hand as we will have to make a decision lickity-split when the time comes.Was looking to possibly move up if the top couple OTs or CBs slid into a reasonable range, but after they went as expected, moving down became a real scenario.