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Shaun Alexander is horrible (1 Viewer)

I know he's hurt, but he looks like a shell of his old self. Cutting is gone, he never seems to push for the extra yards, speed is gone, vision looks poor.Injury? Loss of his FB? Oline? Age? All of the above?
i made some posts about this in the summer, but as soon as a RB turns 30 (especially a first to second round back) i just stay away. i may lose out on one more year of productivity, but i don't get burned either.
I don't even think it's being 30. He simply got his dough and is playing without heart, like he always did. He had an awesome line and was playing for the big bucks. It's no coincidence that his 2 biggest years were both contract years. Those years he actually dug in and got short yardage runs. Something like 15/17 on short yardage, but he can't even get 2 yards on 1st and 10 against a 3 man front.
 
he's carried me to 3 titles in my most important league.

he's always been a big ###### and i've always hated having to watch him play. he tiptoes horizontally and either a. runs out of bounds or b. crouches down and essentially kneels down at the back of his blocker's knees. he does (used to) bust out a 40 yarder from time to time when the defense is exhausted and the blocking works out perfectly.

his value has always been that holmgren shamelessly allowed him to get every single goal-line carry, no matter what. to alexander's credit, he's a great goal-line back. it would just be great if he ran that hard every other time.

maybe he's lost a step now, but to me, his game hasn't changed that much. the blocking's just not as dominant as it was 2 years ago.

 
He was just never all THAT good. He was a solid back in a dynamite system with great blocking. Always thought this was obvious. :rolleyes:
I remember hearing a few years ago about how even Seattle's coaching staff didn't think Alexander had that much heart and that he was a product of the system, but he produced so well, that they had to keep him. Cannot remember where I heard that, unfortunately.
 
Is Shaun Alexander Fantasy history?

Many analysts are breaking out the "Omigosh, he's 30" argument on Alexander, while others point to his fractured left wrist. Well, the man showed within the last 12 months that he has tread on the tire, and so long as he's not running on his hands, the wrist isn't a big issue.

Let's start with the stats. After posting two 100-yard games in the first three weeks, Alexander has 138 rush yards total over his last three with no touchdowns. But what's even more alarming is his yards-per-carry average:

Week 1 vs. TB 27 105 3.9

Week 2 at ARI 18 70 3.9

Week 3 vs. CIN 21 100 4.8

Week 4 at SF 25 78 3.1

Week 5 at PIT 11 25 2.3

Week 6 vs. NO 14 35 2.5

Take away that game against Cincinnati's poor defense, and Alexander's average has gone downhill this season. Even against tough run defenses like the Steelers, Alexander should be expected to get more than 2.3 yards per carry. And against a Saints defense ranked 17th against the run, Alexander had two rushes for five or more yards, his first and fourth touches of the game. In the second half, Alexander was mysteriously sidelined while RB/FB Leonard Weaver played, mostly pass blocking as the Seahawks threw to get back in the game.

Alexander has three 20-plus-yard rushes this season and six total dating back to the 2006 season, including the '06 postseason. Compare that with his 2005 total (he had 27 runs of 20-plus yards and six games without a 20-yard rush) and you'll see that something's different here.

Steve Hutchinson was his All-Pro guard until 2005, and while he might not have a lot to do with Alexander's statistical drop, maybe the offensive line he has now does. But I also think he's far less aggressive than he has been, and it could be because of the injuries he's endured over the past 12 months.

Ultimately, the guy looks like he's lost a step.

If you own Alexander, take his next two games to evaluate him. He should perform well -- not just good, but great -- hosting the Rams and playing at Cleveland, with a bye week in between. Neither of those teams could stop a baby crawling behind five offensive linemen. After those games, Alexander and the Seahawks don't have it too tough, but we both can agree that Alexander's long-term future doesn't look good regardless of his upcoming schedule.

Don't deal Alexander yet. Use his next two games to gain value. If you try to trade him now, you'll get Jason Wright and Lee Evans in return. Alexander should pump up his stats over the next three weeks, and that's when you trade him in for a decent RB with some upside (Maurice Jones-Drew?) and a good Fantasy WR (Wes Welker?).

per cbssportsline :goodposting:

 
Is Shaun Alexander Fantasy history? Many analysts are breaking out the "Omigosh, he's 30" argument on Alexander, while others point to his fractured left wrist. Well, the man showed within the last 12 months that he has tread on the tire, and so long as he's not running on his hands, the wrist isn't a big issue. Let's start with the stats. After posting two 100-yard games in the first three weeks, Alexander has 138 rush yards total over his last three with no touchdowns. But what's even more alarming is his yards-per-carry average: Week 1 vs. TB 27 105 3.9 Week 2 at ARI 18 70 3.9 Week 3 vs. CIN 21 100 4.8 Week 4 at SF 25 78 3.1 Week 5 at PIT 11 25 2.3 Week 6 vs. NO 14 35 2.5 Take away that game against Cincinnati's poor defense, and Alexander's average has gone downhill this season. Even against tough run defenses like the Steelers, Alexander should be expected to get more than 2.3 yards per carry. And against a Saints defense ranked 17th against the run, Alexander had two rushes for five or more yards, his first and fourth touches of the game. In the second half, Alexander was mysteriously sidelined while RB/FB Leonard Weaver played, mostly pass blocking as the Seahawks threw to get back in the game. Alexander has three 20-plus-yard rushes this season and six total dating back to the 2006 season, including the '06 postseason. Compare that with his 2005 total (he had 27 runs of 20-plus yards and six games without a 20-yard rush) and you'll see that something's different here. Steve Hutchinson was his All-Pro guard until 2005, and while he might not have a lot to do with Alexander's statistical drop, maybe the offensive line he has now does. But I also think he's far less aggressive than he has been, and it could be because of the injuries he's endured over the past 12 months. Ultimately, the guy looks like he's lost a step. If you own Alexander, take his next two games to evaluate him. He should perform well -- not just good, but great -- hosting the Rams and playing at Cleveland, with a bye week in between. Neither of those teams could stop a baby crawling behind five offensive linemen. After those games, Alexander and the Seahawks don't have it too tough, but we both can agree that Alexander's long-term future doesn't look good regardless of his upcoming schedule. Don't deal Alexander yet. Use his next two games to gain value. If you try to trade him now, you'll get Jason Wright and Lee Evans in return. Alexander should pump up his stats over the next three weeks, and that's when you trade him in for a decent RB with some upside (Maurice Jones-Drew?) and a good Fantasy WR (Wes Welker?). per cbssportsline :unsure:
You could make the same kind of statistical argument about LJ and also, incidentally, the same kind of 'lack of motivation after the payday argument. In fact, LJ's YPC is worse in several games:Week 1: 10/43 4.3 ypcWeek 2: 16/55 3.4 ypcWeek 3: 24/42 1.75 ypcweek 4: 25/123 4.92week 5: 8/12 1.33 ypcweek 6: 31.119 3.8 ypcAfter 115 carries, a signficant sample size, LJ YPC is 3.4 compared to 3.6 for Alexander.In fact, LJ has done sigificantly worse than Alexander but I don't hear the same 'he is worthless and will never be any good ever gain' type of claims.People need to understand that most backs go through these periods and it is compounded when the rest of your offense is a shambles. Both of them have detiorating offensive lines and the qB play and WR play for both is not very good.
 

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