Sherman is a tool (2 Viewers)

[Sabertooth]

Sherman is making a lot of noise and selling his brand. That's just smart business. What's his contract situation?

 

[MAC_32]

I'd rather have the brash, opinionated, runs-his-mouth dominant football player than a perfect citizen who can't do his job as well. I've spent too much time rooting for the Mariners, who bring in exceptional citizens that suck at their job. Sherman pissing people off is the least of my concerns. Go win one more game, don't do anything truly awful, and keep on keeping on.

You're creating a false choice. Sherman doesn't have to relinquish any of his talent or be any less dominant to act like a mature adult.

please point me to the nfl team that does not have a loose cannon on their roster.

Is that an argument in favor of loose cannons?

this is a violent game played by people trying to killeach another. If you're surprised and unhappy that there are some jerks in the game then there is no helping you,

Still not seeing this as a strong argument for being a jerk. It's surely not a prerequisite for playing in the NFL, and plenty of guys have had great success without being jerks.There are jerks in all walks of life, and it's neither good nor admirable in any of them.

unlike in the rest ofvtge activities in my life, in football, I just want to win.

 

[MAC_32]

It's hilarious watching Sherman scream that he's the best corner in the game. Could you imagine Manning carrying on yesterday saying he's the best quarterback? Or McCoy or Charles yelling about them being the best running back? Lol. What an insecure tool.

Here's a tip asspipe, let others say it.

corner is a completely different position. I want my star corner to believe he is the best.

 

[Sinrman]

The equivalent of TO or Chad Johnson on the defense...

 

[Apple Jack]

The uptight integritier-than-thou crowd are classic.

 

[Pump N Go]

Roddy White laid it on him last playoffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTpEQmTo8Mc

 

[JuniorNB]

It's hilarious watching Sherman scream that he's the best corner in the game. Could you imagine Manning carrying on yesterday saying he's the best quarterback? Or McCoy or Charles yelling about them being the best running back? Lol. What an insecure tool.

Here's a tip asspipe, let others say it.

corner is a completely different position. I want my star corner to believe he is the best.

I want all my guys to believe they're the best. Doesn't mean you have to be a loudmouth blowhard about it.

 

[Hang 10]

That was so great when Trent Williams ##### slapped this punk.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Sherman is making a lot of noise and selling his brand. That's just smart business. What's his contract situation?

 

[coolnerd]

Sherman is making a lot of noise and selling his brand. That's just smart business. What's his contract situation?

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/richard-sherman/

 

[Hooper31]

Sherman is making a lot of noise and selling his brand. That's just smart business. What's his contract situation?

Just finishing his third year. Team can extend him in the offseason, but they have him wrapped up for another year at 5th round draft pick prices.

Team has some tough calls in the offseason (just like most teams). Have to make decisions on many players. However, there's a lot of veteran money that I think comes off the books when the let some guys go like Red Bryant and Chris Clemons. They're going to have a lot of time into negotiations with defensive linemen. I could see the team telling him to be patient and they will get to him later in the offseason. Not sure they pay him like he will want because he is going to get major dollars.

 

[bakes]

Think Sherman was bad? You must have *hated* Muhammad Ali. Sounds like some of you would have preferred that he pull out a Meerschaum, spark it up, and start dissecting the play using Shakespearian English.

Three minutes after making a play that effectively ended the game and sent his team to the Super Bowl, defending against a guy who was trash talking him apparently since before the season, and with more adrenaline cruising through his system than most of the armchair critics here will ever have, damn straight he's going to be amped and go off. A part of playing DB is getting into the receiver's head, and pretty simply he can't turn it on and off that fast. At least he didn't thank his hands for being so great.

Manning shilling for a crappy pizza chain run by a jerk is more offensive.

.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

BOAST MODE!

(already been done?)

 

[LuckyOne]

Sherman chasing down players to talk trash after he makes a play says a lot about the coaching staff in Seattle. That wouldn't happen a second time by a Patriot without that player being reprimanded by the team. The same could probably be said for 25+ other NFL teams. His behavior should be expected from a 6 year old, not a pro in the NFL.

 

[MAC_32]

It's hilarious watching Sherman scream that he's the best corner in the game. Could you imagine Manning carrying on yesterday saying he's the best quarterback? Or McCoy or Charles yelling about them being the best running back? Lol. What an insecure tool.

Here's a tip asspipe, let others say it.

corner is a completely different position. I want my star corner to believe he is the best.

I want all my guys to believe they're the best. Doesn't mean you have to be a loudmouth blowhard about it.

so you don't want Sherman on your team.

 

[KellysHeroes]

didn't he have like 15 minutes to cool off before the interview

 

[JuniorNB]

It's hilarious watching Sherman scream that he's the best corner in the game. Could you imagine Manning carrying on yesterday saying he's the best quarterback? Or McCoy or Charles yelling about them being the best running back? Lol. What an insecure tool.

Here's a tip asspipe, let others say it.

corner is a completely different position. I want my star corner to believe he is the best.

I want all my guys to believe they're the best. Doesn't mean you have to be a loudmouth blowhard about it.

so you don't want Sherman on your team.

I'd love him on my team. But his asswhole act would be put to a stop quick. As it would with most NFL teams.

 

[chinawildman]

Just curious for those of you that enjoy Sherman's antics. If your kids played sports (or any competition for that matter) and went "Sherman" all the time, would you condone it? Or do you guys just find his WWE schtick more of a guilty pleasure?

 

[Apple Jack]

Sherman chasing down players to talk trash after he makes a play says a lot about the coaching staff in Seattle. That wouldn't happen a second time by a Patriot without that player being reprimanded by the team. The same could probably be said for 25+ other NFL teams. His behavior should be expected from a 6 year old, not a pro in the NFL.

You understand that the Patriots were reprimanded by the league for cheating, right?

 

[MAC_32]

didn't he have like 15 minutes to cool off before the interview

no

 

[MAC_32]

Just curious for those of you that enjoy Sherman's antics. If your kids played sports (or any competition for that matter) and went "Sherman" all the time, would you condone it? Or do you guys just find his WWE schtick more of a guilty pleasure?

I don't enjoy his antics. I would enjoy my team being in the Super Bowl though.

 

[MAC_32]

The nfl is littered with ### holes on every team, especially the stars, it's on the team to properly manage them. It can be done at every position but qb. Can't have that act at qb, and don't want your team dominated by these types, but a couple few of them? A strong clubhouse keeps them in line.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Just curious for those of you that enjoy Sherman's antics. If your kids played sports (or any competition for that matter) and went "Sherman" all the time, would you condone it? Or do you guys just find his WWE schtick more of a guilty pleasure?

Not all the time. After making a play, against a hated rival, where youre trash talking all game and that play just sent you to the Super Bowl would be OK with me.

 

[Hoosier16]

Think Sherman was bad? You must have *hated* Muhammad Ali. Sounds like some of you would have preferred that he pull out a Meerschaum, spark it up, and start dissecting the play using Shakespearian English.

This was the problem for me. Ali was in an individual sport. When he won, it was all because of him. Sherman is in a team sport. Had Sherman called SF mediocre or called Seattle the best, it would have been fine. He could have talked all the team trash he wanted. But he didn't. Everything was about him. And Crabtree. The individual battle was more important to him than the team battle. They just advanced to the Super Bowl and he was stuck on still beating Crabtree. He should have been celebrating the team victory instead of his individual one.

 

[davearm]

Sounds to me like Brady got a bit sick and tired of hearing this clown running his mouth all game long when he shot back with the "see you after the game" comment.

Congrats. Your narratuve says exactly what you would like it to say.

I gave you direct quotes from Sherman. You know, the ones where he bragged about running his mouth at Brady "at every TV timeout", and telling one of the alltime great QBs "We're greater than you".

He created the narrative, not me.

You're free to embrace the antics, but you're delusional if you can't see them for what they are.

 

[mad sweeney]

Sherman really dislikes thug mentality. He really dislikes being talked down to by receivers. You won't see him talking like this to receivers that play with some semblance of honor and respect for other players. Crabtree isn't that guy. Fitzgerald is that guy, and there are many others like him that you won't see verbally squaring off with Sherman. I strongly doubt you will see any war of words between Sherman and anyone on the Denver roster.

Total BS. Did you listen to him miked-up vs the Vikings? I honestly don't think Webb and Patterson said two words to him and he is disrespecting them every chance he got.

How can you possibly know what they said or didn't say all game long?

 

[MAC_32]

Think Sherman was bad? You must have *hated* Muhammad Ali. Sounds like some of you would have preferred that he pull out a Meerschaum, spark it up, and start dissecting the play using Shakespearian English.

This was the problem for me. Ali was in an individual sport. When he won, it was all because of him. Sherman is in a team sport. Had Sherman called SF mediocre or called Seattle the best, it would have been fine. He could have talked all the team trash he wanted. But he didn't. Everything was about him. And Crabtree. The individual battle was more important to him than the team battle. They just advanced to the Super Bowl and he was stuck on still beating Crabtree. He should have been celebrating the team victory instead of his individual one.

corner is the one position in football that's really like a one on one sport.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

You guys are crazy. Sherman is hilarious. We need more people like him in the league, not less.

What are you 14?

Are you looking for 14 year olds on the internet? That's a little weird, dude.

 

[davearm]

The nfl is littered with ### holes on every team, especially the stars, it's on the team to properly manage them. It can be done at every position but qb. Can't have that act at qb, and don't want your team dominated by these types, but a couple few of them? A strong clubhouse keeps them in line.

What would be the optimal number of egomaniacal jerks on a team? Zero? 5? 25?

 

[MAC_32]

The nfl is littered with ### holes on every team, especially the stars, it's on the team to properly manage them. It can be done at every position but qb. Can't have that act at qb, and don't want your team dominated by these types, but a couple few of them? A strong clubhouse keeps them in line.

What would be the optimal number of egomaniacal jerks on a team? Zero? 5? 25?

varies team to team, but probably single digits. I think it's a big reason why Philly failed when they went free agent crazy that one year. Too many egos, not strong enough leadership.

 

[davearm]

unlike in the rest ofvtge activities in my life, in football, I just want to win.

Acting the way Sherman does isn't what wins games. Playing the way Sherman does is what wins games.

You seem to be having a hard time separating these things.

 

[davearm]

The nfl is littered with ### holes on every team, especially the stars, it's on the team to properly manage them. It can be done at every position but qb. Can't have that act at qb, and don't want your team dominated by these types, but a couple few of them? A strong clubhouse keeps them in line.

What would be the optimal number of egomaniacal jerks on a team? Zero? 5? 25?

varies team to team, but probably single digits. I think it's a big reason why Philly failed when they went free agent crazy that one year. Too many egos, not strong enough leadership.

So a team could suffer from having too few jerks on its roster. Is that your position?

 

[mad sweeney]

Think Sherman was bad? You must have *hated* Muhammad Ali. Sounds like some of you would have preferred that he pull out a Meerschaum, spark it up, and start dissecting the play using Shakespearian English.

This was the problem for me. Ali was in an individual sport. When he won, it was all because of him. Sherman is in a team sport. Had Sherman called SF mediocre or called Seattle the best, it would have been fine. He could have talked all the team trash he wanted. But he didn't. Everything was about him. And Crabtree. The individual battle was more important to him than the team battle. They just advanced to the Super Bowl and he was stuck on still beating Crabtree. He should have been celebrating the team victory instead of his individual one.

Dude, it was 3 minutes after the play. His whole team was still congratulating him on it. They picked him to interview first beacause of that play. Of course he was still stuck on it. He ended it with "LoB" for Legion of Boom. I get the hate and share in most of it, but it's just silly to pick one extremely emotional moment to define him. He's the ultimate team player.

 

[MAC_32]

The nfl is littered with ### holes on every team, especially the stars, it's on the team to properly manage them. It can be done at every position but qb. Can't have that act at qb, and don't want your team dominated by these types, but a couple few of them? A strong clubhouse keeps them in line.

What would be the optimal number of egomaniacal jerks on a team? Zero? 5? 25?

varies team to team, but probably single digits. I think it's a big reason why Philly failed when they went free agent crazy that one year. Too many egos, not strong enough leadership.

So a team could suffer from having too few jerks on its roster. Is that your position?

nope, but whatever fits your narrative.

 

[MAC_32]

unlike in the rest ofvtge activities in my life, in football, I just want to win.

Acting the way Sherman does isn't what wins games. Playing the way Sherman does is what wins games.

You seem to be having a hard time separating these things.

i want the player if the personality can be managed, they're in the Super Bowl, I'd say the team was successful managing his personality.

 

[Donnybrook]

Sherman really dislikes thug mentality. He really dislikes being talked down to by receivers. You won't see him talking like this to receivers that play with some semblance of honor and respect for other players. Crabtree isn't that guy. Fitzgerald is that guy, and there are many others like him that you won't see verbally squaring off with Sherman. I strongly doubt you will see any war of words between Sherman and anyone on the Denver roster.

Total BS. Did you listen to him miked-up vs the Vikings? I honestly don't think Webb and Patterson said two words to him and he is disrespecting them every chance he got.

How can you possibly know what they said or didn't say all game long?

Sherm was upset that Webb was blocking him too hard and was crying to the ref about it. He is just a complete tool.

 

[Da Guru]

A very physical, emotional game to go to the Super just ends and you have a reporter sticking a mike in your face. I loved it! They got exactly what they wanted out that "raw emotion" I thought he was going to head butt Andrews.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

A very good article today about Sherman

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/1/20/5319032/richard-sherman-interview-nfc-championship-2014

 

[althepostman]

Anyone that complains about Sherman's behavior is either:

A. A bitter Niner fan

or

B. Jealous that Sherman plays for the Seahawks and not their team

 

[cstu]

Here it is for real...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjOkTib5eVQ

".....Who was talking about you?"

 

[davearm]

The nfl is littered with ### holes on every team, especially the stars, it's on the team to properly manage them. It can be done at every position but qb. Can't have that act at qb, and don't want your team dominated by these types, but a couple few of them? A strong clubhouse keeps them in line.

What would be the optimal number of egomaniacal jerks on a team? Zero? 5? 25?

varies team to team, but probably single digits. I think it's a big reason why Philly failed when they went free agent crazy that one year. Too many egos, not strong enough leadership.

So a team could suffer from having too few jerks on its roster. Is that your position?

nope, but whatever fits your narrative.

I asked you what the optimal number of jerks was. You said "single digits". If you understand the term "optimal", then you would realize that the implication is exactly what I said. A team with zero jerks has less than the optimal number, and therefore would suffer from not enough jerkiness, according to what you've said.

 

[steveski]

unlike in the rest ofvtge activities in my life, in football, I just want to win.

Acting the way Sherman does isn't what wins games. Playing the way Sherman does is what wins games.

You seem to be having a hard time separating these things.

i want the player if the personality can be managed, they're in the Super Bowl, I'd say the team was successful managing his personality.

The Seahawks and Carroll are that type of team where if they are winning, then this crazy and fun atmosphere works fine. That kind of atmosphere doesn't work when your team faces adversity. That's why the Patriots are always good, even if over half of their team is injured. It's a business and the guys are there to work. They aren't hooting and hollering all over sports shows or playing basketball before practices. They're professional.

 

[cstu]

And don't worry Richard, the Broncos aren't going to try you with a crappy receiver like Crabtree.

 

[mad sweeney]

Sherman really dislikes thug mentality. He really dislikes being talked down to by receivers. You won't see him talking like this to receivers that play with some semblance of honor and respect for other players. Crabtree isn't that guy. Fitzgerald is that guy, and there are many others like him that you won't see verbally squaring off with Sherman. I strongly doubt you will see any war of words between Sherman and anyone on the Denver roster.

Total BS. Did you listen to him miked-up vs the Vikings? I honestly don't think Webb and Patterson said two words to him and he is disrespecting them every chance he got.

How can you possibly know what they said or didn't say all game long?

Sherm was upset that Webb was blocking him too hard and was crying to the ref about it. He is just a complete tool.

Did you hear the whole, unedited game?

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Think Sherman was bad? You must have *hated* Muhammad Ali. Sounds like some of you would have preferred that he pull out a Meerschaum, spark it up, and start dissecting the play using Shakespearian English.

Three minutes after making a play that effectively ended the game and sent his team to the Super Bowl, defending against a guy who was trash talking him apparently since before the season, and with more adrenaline cruising through his system than most of the armchair critics here will ever have, damn straight he's going to be amped and go off. A part of playing DB is getting into the receiver's head, and pretty simply he can't turn it on and off that fast. At least he didn't thank his hands for being so great.

Manning shilling for a crappy pizza chain run by a jerk is more offensive.

.

 

[davearm]

unlike in the rest ofvtge activities in my life, in football, I just want to win.

Acting the way Sherman does isn't what wins games. Playing the way Sherman does is what wins games.

You seem to be having a hard time separating these things.

i want the player if the personality can be managed, they're in the Super Bowl, I'd say the team was successful managing his personality.

Everyone would be better off if the guy didn't need his personality to be managed, is the point that keeps eluding you.

 

[cstu]

It's hilarious watching Sherman scream that he's the best corner in the game. Could you imagine Manning carrying on yesterday saying he's the best quarterback? Or McCoy or Charles yelling about them being the best running back? Lol. What an insecure tool.

Here's a tip asspipe, let others say it.

The difference is that he doesn't really play a team game - he plays a one on one game as part of a team. That why I expect different things from CB's/WR's than I do QB's.

 

[davearm]

Anyone that complains about Sherman's behavior is either:

A. A bitter Niner fan

or

B. Jealous that Sherman plays for the Seahawks and not their team

Or C, sick of the "look at me" BS that permeates the NFL.

Russell Wilson (for example, there are many others) is a class act, and it's easy to root for him just for how he carries himself. Sherman is the polar opposite.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Anyone that complains about Sherman's behavior is either:

A. A bitter Niner fan

or

B. Jealous that Sherman plays for the Seahawks and not their team

Disagree. I am neutral and I dislike SF and Seattle the same. As a coach at a high school level I point my athletes to the Tim Duncans and Mannings of the world. Not to guys like Sherman.

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6x-O3kb1sI

Sherman vs Skip Bayless

What a douchenozzle