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Shift of power changing in the NFC? (1 Viewer)

Sounds like a one Bears fan is a little upset that the 'Skins signed all the players that the Bears wanted to sign (Archuleta, Randle El and A. Carter)! :rolleyes:

LOL @ making a prediction for the next decade. Sheesh! Sounds like it's personal opinion and has absolutley nothing to do with fact ro anything else. :thumbdown:

 
Sounds like a one Bears fan is a little upset that the 'Skins signed all the players that the Bears wanted to sign (Archuleta, Randle El and A. Carter)! :rolleyes:

LOL @ making a prediction for the next decade. Sheesh! Sounds like it's personal opinion and has absolutley nothing to do with fact ro anything else. :thumbdown:
Don't sweat it Biz. That's just Grid being Grid.
 
Jokes about Tampa Bay aside, I for one was impressed with Chris Simms' development and think they'll be in contention.
I definitely think Tampa Bay is one of the NFC teams that have to be considered favorites. I'd certainly put them ahead of any NFC North team.Seattle might not be as good, but they still have to be the favorites because they're one team where I don't have any questions about the quarterback.
Hey scooby, do you believe this even if Simms running the show?
 
Here we go again! The Skin love here is just sick. This noise is just a broken record and it has been going on now for ten years

 
Jokes about Tampa Bay aside, I for one was impressed with Chris Simms' development and think they'll be in contention.
I definitely think Tampa Bay is one of the NFC teams that have to be considered favorites. I'd certainly put them ahead of any NFC North team.Seattle might not be as good, but they still have to be the favorites because they're one team where I don't have any questions about the quarterback.
Hey scooby, do you believe this even if Simms running the show?
Did you not see him play last year?
 
Jokes about Tampa Bay aside, I for one was impressed with Chris Simms' development and think they'll be in contention.
I definitely think Tampa Bay is one of the NFC teams that have to be considered favorites. I'd certainly put them ahead of any NFC North team.Seattle might not be as good, but they still have to be the favorites because they're one team where I don't have any questions about the quarterback.
Hey scooby, do you believe this even if Simms running the show?
Did you not see him play last year?
:yes: Why you ask?
 
Jokes about Tampa Bay aside, I for one was impressed with Chris Simms' development and think they'll be in contention.
I definitely think Tampa Bay is one of the NFC teams that have to be considered favorites. I'd certainly put them ahead of any NFC North team.Seattle might not be as good, but they still have to be the favorites because they're one team where I don't have any questions about the quarterback.
Hey scooby, do you believe this even if Simms running the show?
Did you not see him play last year?
:yes: Why you ask?
Because he was pretty impressive.
 
It's called a football TEAM for a reason. The players must be comfortable playing as a cohesive unit - and Washington continues to shake things up EVERY flippin season.
As of now, the Redskins have made two changes to their starting offense and three changes to the starting defense. On offense: Lloyd and Randle El for Patten/Thrash and Royal. On defense: Carter for Wynn/Daniels, someone for Lavar, and Archuleta for Clark.Wow, look at that shake up!

 
Jokes about Tampa Bay aside, I for one was impressed with Chris Simms' development and think they'll be in contention.
I definitely think Tampa Bay is one of the NFC teams that have to be considered favorites. I'd certainly put them ahead of any NFC North team.Seattle might not be as good, but they still have to be the favorites because they're one team where I don't have any questions about the quarterback.
Hey scooby, do you believe this even if Simms running the show?
:confused: Simms went 6-2 to end the season last year, including 3-0 on the road in the division. During that span, he threw 8 TDs to 3 INTs.

Along the way, he showed obvious growth in key areas like game management, reads, and leadership.

Not sure why you would think he wouldn't continue to develope, other than left-over feelings from his college career.

 
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Or will all this just fall apart?
This offseason has been similar to 2000 for the Redskins.Skins fans affectionately refer to that 2000 team as the Fortune 500 Skins; they spent a fortune and finished .500. In 2000 and 2006, the team will be coming off wild card wins and divisional playoff losses. In 2000, they added guys like Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders, and Jeff George. While not adding names that big in 2006, they have gone all out again to try and make the next jump.

The 2000 team was 6-2 at one point. The collapse started just as the first half was ending on MNF against the Titans, when Rolle returned and INT for a TD as time expired. Brad Johnson suffered and injury and Jeff George wasn't capable of winning. Norv was eventually fired and they struggled to finish 8-8.

So, what' different about 2006? Easy: Joe Gibbs >>>>>>>>>>> Norv Turner. Sure, it could backfire like in 2000, but I'm guessing it won't barring a plethora of injuries.
The other huge difference is that the guys being added are either in or just about to enter the prime of their careers (excluding Fauria and Collins who are clearly depth signings). Smith and Sanders were well past their primes when they they joined the Skins, and George of course never had one.
Bruce Smith was pretty good in 2000 and he really helped Marco Coleman on the other side. Deion was better than most Skins fans, including myself, want to give him credit for. He wasn't that bad. George, IMO, was the disaster. And, Norv just couldn't handle that team.
 
I think Philly will be back to thier normal ### kickin self next year. They have made some decent moves in f/a... Nothing huge.. but guys that fill needs. If they are healthy, they take the division.

 
Jokes about Tampa Bay aside, I for one was impressed with Chris Simms' development and think they'll be in contention.
I definitely think Tampa Bay is one of the NFC teams that have to be considered favorites. I'd certainly put them ahead of any NFC North team.Seattle might not be as good, but they still have to be the favorites because they're one team where I don't have any questions about the quarterback.
Hey scooby, do you believe this even if Simms running the show?
:confused: Simms went 6-2 to end the season last year, including 3-0 on the road in the division.

Along the way, he showed obvious growth in key areas like game management, reads, and leadership.

Not sure why you would think he wouldn't continue to develope, other than left-over feelings from his college career.
1. Where did I say this?2. Where did you red this on this thread?

I asked a simple and straight forward question. I obviously did see all his games or I wouldn't have asked the question. I saw a few games some, he looked shaky the other he looked good.

Simms played 11 games last year, 2035yds, 10TD, 7INTs, 4 fumbles, sacked 29 times (205yds lost), 61%pct (rank 22nd), 81.4 QBRat(rank 31st).

I'm not impressed.

 
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They're nothing... absolutely nothing. Even though they beat my Bears the last two years, they didn't exactly do it convincingly in their home opener last season.

How is the 'highest payroll', 'big name players' and 'big name Head Coach / GM' schtick working out for the New York Knicks this year?
:lmao: How did your dire predictions for the Skins from last year work out?

The Redskins are going nowhere fast.

Bad contracts for over-rated players.

At least they're keeping the same defensive coordinator for subsequent years for the first time under Snyder. That's got to count for a couple of extra victories.... D'oh! I forgot, they're going to lose one of their starting CBs.....
 
The main difference between now and all of the other big free agent sprees in the past is who they're handing them over to. Norv Turner and Steve Spurrier. Eeuch!

The biggest acquisition this offseason for the Redskins isn't Randle El or Archuletta, it's been Al Saunders.

 
I think Philly will be back to thier normal ### kickin self next year. They have made some decent moves in f/a... Nothing huge.. but guys that fill needs. If they are healthy, they take the division.
Philly has been ok so far..................but as long as you have that avatar, I'll agree to what ever you say. :excited:
 
The main difference between now and all of the other big free agent sprees in the past is who they're handing them over to. Norv Turner and Steve Spurrier. Eeuch!

The biggest acquisition this offseason for the Redskins isn't Randle El or Archuletta, it's been Al Saunders.
As a Cowboys fan, it pains me to say this, but I think the Skinz will be very competitve next year. I'm not hating, I think Little Napoleon is tired of losing and they are going to surprise a lot of people next season, if and only if Brunell stays healthy.
 
I'm not impressed.
And you're from Texas. That's a shocker.I think the Bucs should be considered a contender because they were a division winner, and have some youth that should improve this year. The key will be the aging defense....if they can get another couple of good years out of Brooks, Barber, Rice, and Co...they should be in the hunt.

 
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The NFC East is way too tight. One of the only divisions if football, where every team could easily win the division. It is going to come down to whoever can steal a couple of division games. Unless of course the NFL gives the Giants a extra home game again this year.....

 
As a Cowboys fan, it pains me to say this, but I think the Skinz will be very competitve next year. I'm not hating, I think Little Napoleon is tired of losing and they are going to surprise a lot of people next season, if and only if Brunell stays healthy.
Yes, hitching the wagon to Brunell is very worrysome. After his "couragous" '04 season, as gibbs liked to refer to it, he's left a very bad taste in my mouth. I don't think Ramsey got a fair shake and I was against the trade for him to begin with. I think it's inevitable that he's going to get hurt again, I just hope they have the guts to tell him to sit down because he clearly hurts the team when he goes out there with his leg bothering him.
 
I'm not impressed.
And you're from Texas. That's a shocker.I think the Bucs should be considered a contender because they were a division winner, and have some youth that should improve this year. The key will be the aging defense....if they can get another couple of good years out of Brooks, Barber, Rice, and Co...they should be in the hunt.
:lmao: :lmao: Agreed.

 
Did Snyder get the memo that there still is a salary cap or is he operating under the assumption that it is an uncapped 2007 season?
He makes these huge contracts what looks in part as a media ploy to make fans happy and attract players. How much of the money actually get paid? Not only does there appear to be a lot of unmeetable performance bonuses, but Washington is moving guys out as fast as they are moving them in. Stephen Davis got a huge deal that made him a Redskin for life right? He cant keep the same team together and probably wont win any championships because of that. Now I think Snyder does use the loopholes to spend as much as a team possibly can which many teams dont. However the money always looks like more than it really is.
 
Did Snyder get the memo that there still is a salary cap or is he operating under the assumption that it is an uncapped 2007 season?
He makes these huge contracts what looks in part as a media ploy to make fans happy and attract players. How much of the money actually get paid? Not only does there appear to be a lot of unmeetable performance bonuses, but Washington is moving guys out as fast as they are moving them in. Stephen Davis got a huge deal that made him a Redskin for life right? He cant keep the same team together and probably wont win any championships because of that. Now I think Snyder does use the loopholes to spend as much as a team possibly can which many teams dont. However the money always looks like more than it really is.
I disagree. Overall the majority of players end up restructuring their deals. When they redo their contract they get another fat bonus. You could probably argue that in fact they pay out more $$$ by giving out a bonus when a player restructures his contract.
 
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It's called a football TEAM for a reason. The players must be comfortable playing as a cohesive unit - and Washington continues to shake things up EVERY flippin season.

There's not a snowball's chance in hell the Redskins will be the 'power' of the NFC.

Hell, they won't even make it to the NFC Championship Game in the next decade.
Your premise is asinine. Washington will return 9 or 10 starters on offense from last year (depending upon what formation they run and whether Brunell keeps the starting job), and 8 on defense.

The biggest names they've failed to retain this year? Lavar Arrington, but I'd point out to begin with this was as much or more due to limitations in his game and conflict with the coaching staff as it was to money. Even so, two years ago the defense was as effective with Lamar Marshall at WLB (where I think he'll return this season) as it was with Arrington in there.

Who else? Ryan Clark (a borderline starting talent who was playing out of position at SS) and Robert Royal (a role player at TE); maybe John Hall, but he's had injury problems the last two years. Walt Harris? By the 2/3 point of the season, Carlos Rogers had beaten him out for the starting job and was head and shoulders above him in coverage skills, relegating Harris to the nickel role - Harris only ever started thereafter when Rogers was injured.

Where's the big shake up? What I've described in Washington is a pretty standard amount of turnover for an NFL team in the FA era.

 
Any team in the NFC East has a shot IMO. Tough division to be in.
Everyone but the Eagles..they've done nothing to get better in the offseason,while Washington and the Gmen have made big splashes...Dallas is about to do the same, with a potential T.O. signing...Eagles have lost their OC, and replaced him with the biggest meat-head this side of Jim Haslett, Marty Morhinweg...eeessshhh...good luck there.. :lmao:

 
This isn't a Bears vs. Skins thread whatsoever.....

Every offseason I have to read how the Skins had the best offseason, and since Snyder has owned the team how many winning seasons have they had? One? Two?

And don't look now, but some young Cane that Snyder has sunk a boatload of money into is about to bite a pillow while somebody finds his endzone.... Nice knowing you Sean Taylor. You're playing on Paul Crewe's team REAL soon.

The Skins can't beat Dallas, the Seahawks or the Panthers as they stand today.

 
This isn't a Bears vs. Skins thread whatsoever.....

Every offseason I have to read how the Skins had the best offseason, and since Snyder has owned the team how many winning seasons have they had? One? Two?

And don't look now, but some young Cane that Snyder has sunk a boatload of money into is about to bite a pillow while somebody finds his endzone.... Nice knowing you Sean Taylor. You're playing on Paul Crewe's team REAL soon.

The Skins can't beat Dallas, the Seahawks or the Panthers as they stand today.
So you're saying they have regressed, or those teams have gotten that much better? They took 3 out of 4 against Dallas and Seattle last year.
 
This isn't a Bears vs. Skins thread whatsoever.....

Every offseason I have to read how the Skins had the best offseason, and since Snyder has owned the team how many winning seasons have they had? One? Two?

And don't look now, but some young Cane that Snyder has sunk a boatload of money into is about to bite a pillow while somebody finds his endzone.... Nice knowing you Sean Taylor. You're playing on Paul Crewe's team REAL soon.

The Skins can't beat Dallas, the Seahawks or the Panthers as they stand today.
####### Bears fans. :rolleyes:
 
So you're saying they have regressed, or those teams have gotten that much better? They took 3 out of 4 against Dallas and Seattle last year.
He's not saying either. He's just saying "it's that time of the year for me to blast the Skins again, like I do every year, since they keep beating the Bears. I guess I'll trot out the 'salary cap hell' and 'spend money like crazy' routines again. People really bite on those." :fishing:

 
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This isn't a Bears vs. Skins thread whatsoever.....

Every offseason I have to read how the Skins had the best offseason, and since Snyder has owned the team how many winning seasons have they had? One? Two?

And don't look now, but some young Cane that Snyder has sunk a boatload of money into is about to bite a pillow while somebody finds his endzone.... Nice knowing you Sean Taylor. You're playing on Paul Crewe's team REAL soon.

The Skins can't beat Dallas, the Seahawks or the Panthers as they stand today.
I dont understand your logic. WSH beat the best of the NFC last year. Seahawks, Bears, Tampa Bay, didn't even play Carolina, altough I wish we did, I think it would be a awesome game.Do you have some hatred against the Skins?? If so that is ok....hatred is spawned from jealousy.....

 
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Hey scooby, do you believe this even if Simms running the show?
Other than Seattle (and Philly where I have questions just about everywhere else), every team in the NFC has questions at QB. As far as young QBs go, I like Simms as much as Eli Manning. I might be biased because he carved up the Skins so bad in the regular season, but even when he played worse in the playoffs, he picked himself off the mat and threw the potential winning (tying?) TD that Edell Whatshisname dropped.
 
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Hey scooby, do you believe this even if Simms running the show?
Other than Seattle (and Philly where I have questions just about everywhere else), every team in the NFC has questions at QB. As far as young QBs go, I like Simms as much as Eli Manning. I might be biased because he carved up the Skins so bad in the regular season, but even when he played worse in the playoffs, he picked himself off the mat and threw the potential winning (tying?) TD that Edell Whatshisname dropped.
I can respect that. With all the signings and the draft upon us, it's going to get very interesting. The NFCE is going to be a monster, if rivaleries have died in the NFCE it's a bout to be rekindled and all hell is going to break out and I have purchased my ticket.
 
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Hey scooby, do you believe this even if Simms running the show?
Other than Seattle (and Philly where I have questions just about everywhere else), every team in the NFC has questions at QB. As far as young QBs go, I like Simms as much as Eli Manning. I might be biased because he carved up the Skins so bad in the regular season, but even when he played worse in the playoffs, he picked himself off the mat and threw the potential winning (tying?) TD that Edell Whatshisname dropped.
I can respect that. With all the signings and the draft upon us, it's going to get very interesting. The NFCE is going to be a monster, if rivaleries have died in the NFCE it's a bout to be rekindled and all hell is going to break out and I have purchased my ticket.
:yes: I said this last year and it's even more true this year - any combination of standings in the NFC East at the end of next year is a plausible scenario.

 

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