Shoplifting Poll - Would You Do Anything As The Store Owner? (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

Talked about this here.

If you owned a grocery store and you saw someone that appeared not to be in need and was shoplifting $100 worth of steaks, would you do anything or just let them walk?

Edit to add, for the sake of discussion, assume the shoplifter is unarmed at least for what you can see. 

 

[glvsav37]

Let someone shoplift in your establishment 1x and it becomes a target for everyone else. 

edit: you put the words "not to be in need" in there. If I owned a retail/food establishment, I most likely put some food/supplies on the side for people actually in need and try and develop a relationship with the community whereas I will give, but I will not be taken advantage of. 

 

[Nugget]

I don’t think it is an absolute, but I’d likely get involved. If he is carrying an AR-15, probably less likely.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I don’t think it is an absolute, but I’d likely get involved. If he is carrying an AR-15, probably less likely.

Yes. Good point.  I probably should have clarified the shoplifter was unarmed at least as for what you could see. 

 

[dgreen]

I'd make copies of my security video, maybe take some pictures of the person with my phone, and report it to the police. I probably would not confront them or try to stop them myself in the store or parking lot.

 

[djmich]

I'd have cameras clearly posted and probably just make sure they were aware the video would be provided to the authorities.  I don't think the risk of physical altercation or other escalation would have positive EV

 

[James Daulton]

Hire an off duty cop as a security guard.  Isn't that what stores have done forever?  Just some armed dude or gal standing at the front would deter most of this crap.

 

[belljr]

What are the laws for shooting a shoplifter?

Not joking

 

[tymarsas]

I'd probably make a comment like "we prefer you use a cart instead of stuffing steaks down your pants" with the hope they drop the goods and run out.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Would you let someone walk into your house and walk out with your stuff? If it’s your store, I guess I don’t see the difference. 

 

[Van Dyman]

I'd probably make a comment like "we prefer you use a cart instead of stuffing steaks down your pants" with the hope they drop the goods and run out.

"Is that a banana in your pocket or are you just happy to rob me?"

 

[The Big Donkey]

shoot em in the leg.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Too many variables for a single answer, though I don't think appearing "in need" is one of them.

 

[Max Power]

Joe if the liberals could steal your research for weekly starts or dynasty prospects, they would. 

 

[sho nuff]

Joe if the liberals could steal your research for weekly starts or dynasty prospects, they would. 

What?

 

[Ghost Rider]

I think the obvious answer is that you try to stop them, and if they try to run, you tackle them and put them in a figure four leglock until someone calls the cops and they arrive. 

 

[tonydead]

For anyone who answers "do nothing" and happens to own a grocery store with high end stakes - if you could post the address that would be helpful. TIA. 

 

[Max Power]

What?

Joe is a business owner. His company produces predictions. People or locations (democratic locals in most cases) stealing his information probably doesn't sit well with the company. 

 

[sho nuff]

Joe is a business owner. His company produces predictions. People or locations (democratic locals in most cases) stealing his information probably doesn't sit well with the company. 

What do democrats or liberals have to do with it?  Do you think liberals are more likely to be thieves?  Seems an odd assertion.

 

[Max Power]

What do democrats or liberals have to do with it?  Do you think liberals are more likely to be thieves?  Seems an odd assertion.

I do think liberals are more likely to be thieves.

 

[ekbeats]

Isn’t shoplifting legal now? 

 

[sho nuff]

I do think liberals are more likely to be thieves.

Based on what? Im trying to figure out where liberal or conservative even enters the conversation here.

 

[ekbeats]

I do think liberals are more likely to be thieves.

Liberals have been enabling criminals since the Bolsheviks.

 

[Max Power]

Based on what?

Theft percentages in  blue counties. 

 

[Enderdog]

Does this steak place have saws and grinders like Satriale's Pork Store?

 

[Nugget]

Theft percentages in  blue counties. 

What percentage of thieves do you think are actively political?  

 

[Max Power]

What percentage of thieves do you think are actively political?  

Does that even matter?

Eta:no

 

[Nugget]

Based on what? Im trying to figure out where liberal or conservative even enters the conversation here.

Liberals have been stealing elections since 2020

 

[sho nuff]

Theft percentages in  blue counties. 

Seems to be a reach making a country statistic to mean the person is a liberal.

Crime seems to be that of opportunity vs political leaning.

Seems basing a lot based on concluding an area thats blue or red vs the people committing the crimes.  

 

[tonydead]

Seems to be a reach making a country statistic to mean the person is a liberal.

Crime seems to be that of opportunity vs political leaning.

Seems basing a lot based on concluding an area thats blue or red vs the people committing the crimes.  

What?

Here we Sho again!

 

[Max Power]

Seems to be a reach making a country statistic to mean the person is a liberal.

Crime seems to be that of opportunity vs political leaning.

Seems basing a lot based on concluding an area thats blue or red vs the people committing the crimes.  

So you want to argue the overall numbers are wrong?

Lesser crime laws will always result in more crime.

It's not the people, it's the crime laws. 

Liberals want under privilege people to have free ####. They just have no clue where to draw the line.

 

[sho nuff]

So you want to argue the overall numbers are wrong?

Lesser crime laws will always result in more crime.

It's not the people, it's the crime laws. 

Liberals want under privilege people to have free ####. They just have no clue where to draw the line.

Im saying there are no overall numbers linking theft to conservative or liberal.

 

[Max Power]

Im saying there are no overall numbers linking theft to conservative or liberal.

Yes there are

 

[sho nuff]

Yes there are

Since arrest records don’t list political affiliation…i doubt that.  If there are…please link any such support.

 

[Nugget]

So you want to argue the overall numbers are wrong?

Lesser crime laws will always result in more crime.

It's not the people, it's the crime laws. 

Liberals want under privilege people to have free ####. They just have no clue where to draw the line.

More laws lead to more crime.  And less freedom.  That is why conservatives love Wyoming. 

 

[Max Power]

Since arrest records don’t list political affiliation…i doubt that.  If there are…please link any such support.

Will theft per county work for you? 

 

[Max Power]

More laws lead to more crime.  And less freedom.  That is why conservatives love Wyoming. 

Wyoming Nordstrom is shacking 

 

[sho nuff]

Will theft per county work for you? 

No.  Why would it?  Unless only liberals are allowed to be in blue counties and only conservative in red.

Its not a statistic of who is committing the crime.  I don’t believe such a statistic exists.

And I don’t believe theft is a crime that has anything to do with politics.  Similar to what is known as the fraud triangle.  Its about opportunity, rationalization, pressure/motivation.

 

[Nugget]

Will theft per county work for you? 

No. Not relevant. 

Wyoming Nordstrom is shacking 

Doubtful that Wyoming has a Nordstrom. 

 

[tymarsas]

Will theft per county work for you? 

Can you include population density in those numbers?

 

[tonydead]

Im saying there are no overall numbers linking theft to conservative or liberal.

If you really dont understand what Max is getting at let me explain it for you:

It's no secret that all the looting and free stuff without consequences is happening in the big blue defund police, let people out of jail, dont arrest cities.  Now, YOU ARE CORRECT that I cant prove that the majority of the looters vote liberal. But, if they want to continue to loot without consequence they should.  

 

[AAABatteries]

I do think liberals are more likely to be thieves.

I’d venture a guess that the average thief probably doesn’t give a #### about politics.  

 

[Max Power]

I’d venture a guess that the average thief probably doesn’t give a #### about politics.  

Probably. But I'm confident in who they'd vote for.

 

[tonydead]

I’d venture a guess that the average thief probably doesn’t give a #### about politics.  

If they want to continue to loot without consequence they should, no brainer.   

 

[AAABatteries]

Probably. But I'm confident in who they'd vote for.

And this is one of our collective problems - we assume things about people based on how they vote.

 

[Nugget]

And this is one of our collective problems - we assume things about people based on how they vote.

Do you think criminals would vote for stronger climate policies or looser restrictions on guns and ammunition?

 

[Max Power]

And this is one of our collective problems - we assume things about people based on how they vote.

Because rhetoric drives this

 

[AAABatteries]

Do you think criminals would vote for stronger climate policies or looser restrictions on guns and ammunition?

Again, I don’t think your average criminal thinks about politics and definitely not policy items.  

If it’s a binary question about climate policy my guess would be they would vote with their pocketbooks.  Gun control - probably they wouldn’t be a fan of gun control.  But these are generalizations and assumptions.

 

[tonydead]

Again, I don’t think your average criminal thinks about politics and definitely not policy items.  

If it’s a binary question about climate policy my guess would be they would vote with their pocketbooks.  Gun control - probably they wouldn’t be a fan of gun control.  But these are generalizations and assumptions.

The thread is about a very specific type of criminal.  

 

[Nugget]

The thread is about a very specific type of criminal.  

Liberal criminals?