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Should I warn other owner? (3 Viewers)

As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
What's done is done. IMO, your actions were wrong on just about every level possible.
:excited: You could always start a league with yourself and do everyone's starting lineup.
He didn't go in and change the guy's lineup.
pretty much though. Hopefully the guy doesnt tell the rest of the league or the commish will feel the backlash
 
As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
I totally agree.The funny thing is that if we're talking about a team that's last place or 2nd to last and this happens the last week of the regular season, the commish would ABSOLUTELY let the guy know because the backlash from a potentialy "tank" would be tremendous.I think you did the appropriate thing.
you actually think the league would call tanking in a situation like this? The other owner should be watching his lineup or at least call someone and see whats up if he didnt have computer access, peterson was questionable going in, owners responsibility not the commish's place to butt in here.
 
The commish should not notify the owner with AP. At this point of the year if you do not check up on something like APs status before the game then that's a bad move. A bad coaching decision if you will and they have to suffer the consequences. It's not fair to make up for an owner's lack of preparation by doing something he should have been doing in the first place. It's one of the only parts of FF which the owner of a team has any control of the situation. Just like there are bad coaches in the nfl there are bad owners in FF. Sometimes that's what separates teams. I don't care if he's my buddy. It's a game and we all know how to play and what's at stake. If they don't feel the need to prepare then apparently they really don't give a ####. I don't care if they are on vacation or whatever. This day and age it doesn't matter.

 
As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
Sorry, it just wasn't your responsibility.If I was the other owner I would have been pissed.Terrible decision
Yep, this is like telling a poker player to your left moments before he's about to absent-mindedly throw in the winning hand that he caught the backdoor flush despite you not even being in the hand. FWIW doing so would get you at least a stern warning from the floor.
Totally accurate metaphor.
 
As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
What's done is done. IMO, your actions were wrong on just about every level possible.
:yes: You could always start a league with yourself and do everyone's starting lineup.
He didn't go in and change the guy's lineup.
pretty much though. Hopefully the guy doesnt tell the rest of the league or the commish will feel the backlash
Backlash of what? Someone finding out that Adrian Peterson was inactive and changing his own lineup before kickoff? What a scandal.
 
As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
Well you set a precedent. Now you have to notify everyone during the year if they are starting someone who isn't playing. I understand why you did it but frankly you overstepped your bounds.
 
I didn't feel obligated.. but I did it anyway. Told him to plug in Gerhart.The right thing to do.
it's your call and I dont criticize you for it . . .however what serious owner ISN'T paying attention at this time of the year (or any time of the year for that matter)?each owner should WANT to stay on top of injury situations . . .
For me it would depend on the owner. If the owner was not active, I would let it ride. If he were an active owner I would let him know. There are some of us (myself) who has lost games because my internet access is limited (am in a 3rd world country) and I could not get online for the 2 or 3 days leading up to a game. Heck just this week, I tried to sub in a TE for Gates the 2 days leading up to the his game and the satellite internet connect dropped due to a storm system. I had to ask for a league vote to allow a substitution for Gates . There are times when people are traveling, etc and unable to get online. So if an owner was on top of his team and then something obvious like this came up (a looking DNP), I would assume life got in the way for this owner and I would let him know.
 
you actually think the league would call tanking in a situation like this? The other owner should be watching his lineup or at least call someone and see whats up if he didnt have computer access, peterson was questionable going in, owners responsibility not the commish's place to butt in here.
Yes, I do. Who's to say the guy didn't see it. He's not making the lineup call or putting the player in (which I disagree with), just ensuring that the guy is aware of the news out there.As commish of 4 dynasty leagues, I typically comb through every team's lineup during the regular season to ensure that aren't any last minute inactives, etc. that impact the lineups of anyone out there.If there are inactive players started, I shoot the owner(s) an email. Otherwise, we end up in potential tanking situations. I don't see why a Monday night game in the playoffs is any different than a regular season game at 12 pm EST when inactives are announced.At the same time, I can see not giving the owner a heads up as commish. As long as the commish is consistent in how this is applied and not going in and setting the lineup for an owner without the owner's consent, I don't have a problem with it.
 
If getting into the playoffs with a chance to be a champion at something you signed up to do (so you probably WANTED to do the league), and maybe earn some cash to boot, doesn't motivate you to be on top of your team then there is really nobody else to blame but yourself if you fail to field a good lineup. There are very few "life" excuses in this day and age that would qualify for special assistance (commish notification) IMO, and they don't include travel or work.

 
As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
What's done is done. IMO, your actions were wrong on just about every level possible.
:blackdot: You could always start a league with yourself and do everyone's starting lineup.
He didn't go in and change the guy's lineup.
He might as well have.
 
As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
What's done is done. IMO, your actions were wrong on just about every level possible.
:football: You could always start a league with yourself and do everyone's starting lineup.
He didn't go in and change the guy's lineup.
He might as well have.
Be that as it may. The guy changed his own lineup.
 
you actually think the league would call tanking in a situation like this? The other owner should be watching his lineup or at least call someone and see whats up if he didnt have computer access, peterson was questionable going in, owners responsibility not the commish's place to butt in here.
Yes, I do. Who's to say the guy didn't see it. He's not making the lineup call or putting the player in (which I disagree with), just ensuring that the guy is aware of the news out there.As commish of 4 dynasty leagues, I typically comb through every team's lineup during the regular season to ensure that aren't any last minute inactives, etc. that impact the lineups of anyone out there.If there are inactive players started, I shoot the owner(s) an email. Otherwise, we end up in potential tanking situations. I don't see why a Monday night game in the playoffs is any different than a regular season game at 12 pm EST when inactives are announced.At the same time, I can see not giving the owner a heads up as commish. As long as the commish is consistent in how this is applied and not going in and setting the lineup for an owner without the owner's consent, I don't have a problem with it.
as long as your consistent, more power to you. you're a more active commish than most, as many do not have enough time to thoroughly do a fair job of monitoring lineups.and FWIW, nobody would consider an owner starting ADP with a last min inactive status a tanking situation.I'm in a 14 team 10 yr old league with close friends, love getting together and talking football, but when it comes to the season we are competitive as hell. There's no holding hands to cross the street, every owner wants their name on the trophy more times than the other. We'll let you draft a broken RB in the 3rd round, you know for sure we'll let you start one, and then rest of the league gets to joke about it. All owners are very knowledgeable, so we assume you know what your doing and are on top of things.
 
As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
Well you set a precedent. Now you have to notify everyone during the year if they are starting someone who isn't playing. I understand why you did it but frankly you overstepped your bounds.
Exactly! and now what happens if you forget to notify someone or can't get hold of them on time. Do they then complain you should of called them and you have to make excuses that you tried or didn't have time because you were notifying another owner. I can't believe this thread has gone this far! I commish 4 leagues-Do you seriously think I'm gonna take time to check out all the other owners every week! I'm busy managing my own teams. Owners are either good managers of their teams or they are not.
 
you actually think the league would call tanking in a situation like this? The other owner should be watching his lineup or at least call someone and see whats up if he didnt have computer access, peterson was questionable going in, owners responsibility not the commish's place to butt in here.
Yes, I do. Who's to say the guy didn't see it. He's not making the lineup call or putting the player in (which I disagree with), just ensuring that the guy is aware of the news out there.As commish of 4 dynasty leagues, I typically comb through every team's lineup during the regular season to ensure that aren't any last minute inactives, etc. that impact the lineups of anyone out there.If there are inactive players started, I shoot the owner(s) an email. Otherwise, we end up in potential tanking situations. I don't see why a Monday night game in the playoffs is any different than a regular season game at 12 pm EST when inactives are announced.At the same time, I can see not giving the owner a heads up as commish. As long as the commish is consistent in how this is applied and not going in and setting the lineup for an owner without the owner's consent, I don't have a problem with it.
Thats cool if you do it like that during the regular season and are consistent about it, playoffs are a different animal imo, every man for himself would be my motto. I also doubt anyone would scream tanking on a late scratch like peterson during the regular season but we all play with different people I suppose. I also commish dynasty leagues, we just fine people who start players listed as out on the website (the peterson situation would not be a fine though) or any bye week starts, if you do it three times in a year you move to the end of the first round no questions asked. I don't want to have to be combing other teams lineups, I have my own lineup to worry about and I really don't think its my place to do so.
 
As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
You did the right thing gianmarco. :thumbup: Kudos to you GB!Don't give it another thought, and certainly don't listen to the negativity in this thread. Not everyone owns an iphone or has internet access while at work to get the latest updates prior to kickoff. If you have mobile internet access and can change your lineups at will anywhere anytime, then good for you!It doesn't mean that your superior technology and internet access is shared by everyone else in your league, nor does it mean that those who can't afford the same toys, or who have limited access while working should automatically be put at a disadvantage to you. Those of you who want to win at all costs, and are pissed that someone might tell your opponent when their 1st overall pick/stud RB has been deactivated prior to kickoff are acting like spoiled children here.If your team can't win without the opponent starting inactive players, then you know what? ...I guess your team just wasn't good enough to win this week. I'm not going to be hoping my opponents can't field a full lineup so that I can coast or get a cheap victory. This is a hobby/game people. It's not a life and death matter.Gianmarco's integrity is much more valuable to him than the fear of your disapproval and whining like little girls, because :gasp: he pointed out the obvious to an owner. Getting ahead in fantasy football or in life doesn't have to come at the expense of your own personal integrity. You can choose to be better than that...
 
As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
Well you set a precedent. Now you have to notify everyone during the year if they are starting someone who isn't playing. I understand why you did it but frankly you overstepped your bounds.
I totally disagree. I've let owners know a few times this year when I saw a player wasn't starting. I'm the commish but I've made it clear to everyone I'm not doing this as a commish but just a fellow owner who wants to beat the snot out of every team, but wants to beat them with a full lineup. If someone is an absentee owner that's one thing. But I don't expect people to check every moment of their lives. If I see a big player is sitting I usually let the other guy know. If he doesn't make a change in time that's on him. I dunno...it seems I'm in the minority. I want to win but if I lost b/c someone called my opponent and gave them a heads up I wouldn't lose my mind over things. Then again I play with a group of friends who are pretty active, but miss something from time to time.ETA - I think gianmarco did the right thing.
 
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geoff8695 said:
gianmarco said:
As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
You did the right thing gianmarco. :thumbup: Kudos to you GB!Don't give it another thought, and certainly don't listen to the negativity in this thread. Not everyone owns an iphone or has internet access while at work to get the latest updates prior to kickoff. If you have mobile internet access and can change your lineups at will anywhere anytime, then good for you!It doesn't mean that your superior technology and internet access is shared by everyone else in your league, nor does it mean that those who can't afford the same toys, or who have limited access while working should automatically be put at a disadvantage to you. Those of you who want to win at all costs, and are pissed that someone might tell your opponent when their 1st overall pick/stud RB has been deactivated prior to kickoff are acting like spoiled children here.If your team can't win without the opponent starting inactive players, then you know what? ...I guess your team just wasn't good enough to win this week. I'm not going to be hoping my opponents can't field a full lineup so that I can coast or get a cheap victory. This is a hobby/game people. It's not a life and death matter.Gianmarco's integrity is much more valuable to him than the fear of your disapproval and whining like little girls, because :gasp: he pointed out the obvious to an owner. Getting ahead in fantasy football or in life doesn't have to come at the expense of your own personal integrity. You can choose to be better than that...
Amen. It's not like he was giving some kind of inside info. that only the Commish had. And he was not using his power as Commish to give someone an unfair advantage. He shared widely publicized news. Get a grip people.
 
Dr. Awesome said:
I totally disagree. I've let owners know a few times this year when I saw a player wasn't starting. I'm the commish but I've made it clear to everyone I'm not doing this as a commish but just a fellow owner who wants to beat the snot out of every team, but wants to beat them with a full lineup. If someone is an absentee owner that's one thing. But I don't expect people to check every moment of their lives. If I see a big player is sitting I usually let the other guy know. If he doesn't make a change in time that's on him. I dunno...it seems I'm in the minority. I want to win but if I lost b/c someone called my opponent and gave them a heads up I wouldn't lose my mind over things. Then again I play with a group of friends who are pretty active, but miss something from time to time.ETA - I think gianmarco did the right thing.
I do agree if your another owner and you want to do this, thats fine. As the commish, you need to consistently apply across the board.Earlier in the season due to MFL's tiny check boxes I didn't start a QB during a game, I ended up winning the game, but was annoyed only at myself for slipping. I don't expect anyone to help me out, and especially not my opponent. I even texted him he was lucky I didn't start a QB. Its part of the whole process of being a fantasy manager.and yes every owner does own phones capable of setting line ups.
 
Cunk said:
The commish should not notify the owner with AP. At this point of the year if you do not check up on something like APs status before the game then that's a bad move. A bad coaching decision if you will and they have to suffer the consequences. It's not fair to make up for an owner's lack of preparation by doing something he should have been doing in the first place. It's one of the only parts of FF which the owner of a team has any control of the situation. Just like there are bad coaches in the nfl there are bad owners in FF. Sometimes that's what separates teams. I don't care if he's my buddy. It's a game and we all know how to play and what's at stake. If they don't feel the need to prepare then apparently they really don't give a ####. I don't care if they are on vacation or whatever. This day and age it doesn't matter.
This. What if he had put in Chester Taylor instead of Forte. Would you have called him and told him to play Forte/Gerhart over him? What you did was collusion. You made lineup decisions for another owner to help him beat his opponent, which directly affects who you play next week. If I were the owner that lost I'd be pissed. I was playing him, not you and him, it's up to him to stay on top of his lineup. ESPECIALLY if he is at work and thus obviously has access to the net etc...Actually is't only technically collusion, if you notified him via email/text. Did you notify the league via league wide email of what you did?
 
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geoff8695 said:
gianmarco said:
As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
You did the right thing gianmarco. :goodposting: Kudos to you GB!Don't give it another thought, and certainly don't listen to the negativity in this thread. Not everyone owns an iphone or has internet access while at work to get the latest updates prior to kickoff. If you have mobile internet access and can change your lineups at will anywhere anytime, then good for you!It doesn't mean that your superior technology and internet access is shared by everyone else in your league, nor does it mean that those who can't afford the same toys, or who have limited access while working should automatically be put at a disadvantage to you. Those of you who want to win at all costs, and are pissed that someone might tell your opponent when their 1st overall pick/stud RB has been deactivated prior to kickoff are acting like spoiled children here.If your team can't win without the opponent starting inactive players, then you know what? ...I guess your team just wasn't good enough to win this week. I'm not going to be hoping my opponents can't field a full lineup so that I can coast or get a cheap victory. This is a hobby/game people. It's not a life and death matter.Gianmarco's integrity is much more valuable to him than the fear of your disapproval and whining like little girls, because :gasp: he pointed out the obvious to an owner. Getting ahead in fantasy football or in life doesn't have to come at the expense of your own personal integrity. You can choose to be better than that...
Terrible move.I'm a commissioner not a babysitter.Now that he set this precedent, he needs to keep watch over everyones roster and let them know if anything comes up all the time from now on.Also, I'm betting he didn't tell the other members of his league he did this.There's nothing worse than a meddling commish.
 
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gianmarco said:
As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
You did the right thing gianmarco. :goodposting: Kudos to you GB!Don't give it another thought, and certainly don't listen to the negativity in this thread. Not everyone owns an iphone or has internet access while at work to get the latest updates prior to kickoff. If you have mobile internet access and can change your lineups at will anywhere anytime, then good for you!It doesn't mean that your superior technology and internet access is shared by everyone else in your league, nor does it mean that those who can't afford the same toys, or who have limited access while working should automatically be put at a disadvantage to you. Those of you who want to win at all costs, and are pissed that someone might tell your opponent when their 1st overall pick/stud RB has been deactivated prior to kickoff are acting like spoiled children here.If your team can't win without the opponent starting inactive players, then you know what? ...I guess your team just wasn't good enough to win this week. I'm not going to be hoping my opponents can't field a full lineup so that I can coast or get a cheap victory. This is a hobby/game people. It's not a life and death matter.Gianmarco's integrity is much more valuable to him than the fear of your disapproval and whining like little girls, because :gasp: he pointed out the obvious to an owner. Getting ahead in fantasy football or in life doesn't have to come at the expense of your own personal integrity. You can choose to be better than that...
Terrible move.I'm a commissioner not a babysitter.Now that he set this precedent, he needs to keep watch over everyones roster and let them know if anything comes up all the time from now on.Also, I'm betting he didn't tell the other members of his league he did this.There's nothing worse than a meddling commish.
Whole lot of ridiculous people on here who take this game waaay too seriously.
 
geoff8695 said:
gianmarco said:
As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
You did the right thing gianmarco. :goodposting: Kudos to you GB!Don't give it another thought, and certainly don't listen to the negativity in this thread. Not everyone owns an iphone or has internet access while at work to get the latest updates prior to kickoff. If you have mobile internet access and can change your lineups at will anywhere anytime, then good for you!It doesn't mean that your superior technology and internet access is shared by everyone else in your league, nor does it mean that those who can't afford the same toys, or who have limited access while working should automatically be put at a disadvantage to you. Those of you who want to win at all costs, and are pissed that someone might tell your opponent when their 1st overall pick/stud RB has been deactivated prior to kickoff are acting like spoiled children here.If your team can't win without the opponent starting inactive players, then you know what? ...I guess your team just wasn't good enough to win this week. I'm not going to be hoping my opponents can't field a full lineup so that I can coast or get a cheap victory. This is a hobby/game people. It's not a life and death matter.Gianmarco's integrity is much more valuable to him than the fear of your disapproval and whining like little girls, because :gasp: he pointed out the obvious to an owner. Getting ahead in fantasy football or in life doesn't have to come at the expense of your own personal integrity. You can choose to be better than that...
Terrible move.I'm a commissioner not a babysitter.Now that he set this precedent, he needs to keep watch over everyones roster and let them know if anything comes up all the time from now on.Also, I'm betting he didn't tell the other members of his league he did this.There's nothing worse than a meddling commish.
Whole lot of ridiculous people on here who take this game waaay too seriously.
That's just not true, you aren't there to help other owners win a game. I don't get why people don't understand this.
 
my opponent knew I was out of town and sent me a text message. Said he would make the switch if I wanted too.I told him if I won $$ from this point on, as I'm currently down by 7, I would split it with him.
Totally different scenario.I've done this myself. But when you are the commish and you aren't involved in the matchup, it's just the wrong this to do.
 
The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.
Did the OP tell the other owner what he did? If he is ashamed to tell the other owner, its a good sign that he should not have done it.however, if he does tell the other owner, he may be in for an ### whoopin.
 
That's just not true, you aren't there to help other owners win a game. I don't get why people don't understand this.
I understand it just fine. I'd rather not beat someone because they got caught up at work and their player unexpectedly sat. If the player is a slacker and does this throughout the year that's one thing. But I've sent plenty of texts this year saying something along the lines of "whoa, your boy isn't playing this week?!"I'd have no problem if somebody let my opponent know. I'm not changing his lineup. I'm not making add/drops for him. I'm just giving a friendly heads up/reminder. And I'm only doing it once.
 
That's just not true, you aren't there to help other owners win a game. I don't get why people don't understand this.
I understand it just fine. I'd rather not beat someone because they got caught up at work and their player unexpectedly sat. If the player is a slacker and does this throughout the year that's one thing. But I've sent plenty of texts this year saying something along the lines of "whoa, your boy isn't playing this week?!"I'd have no problem if somebody let my opponent know. I'm not changing his lineup. I'm not making add/drops for him. I'm just giving a friendly heads up/reminder. And I'm only doing it once.
Again, if you're playing that guy that week, fine.It's just not the commissioners place to meddle like that.
 
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As an update, I let the owner know and the change was made. It had an impact on the outcome.That said, I thought about it this way:1) If I wasn't in the playoffs, I wouldn't have even thought twice about this. I would have called to let him know.2) I'm not close friends with the guy at all, but I do have a couple very good friends that I know I would have called for sure. If I would have done that for them, I need to do it for everybody.I appreciate the responses. I don't think I had an obligation to call but I also don't think it was wrong if I did. It turns out the guy, who is on PST time, was still at work and had no idea. The fact that this was a major player, a pretty significant surprise, and during the playoffs made this important for me to make it right.
As a person in a league with u , Im glad u are not the commish
 
The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.
Not a chance. As I said, I didn't even bother looking at who I'd rather face and I'd never base my decision on that. And I most definitely wasn't trying to do something unethical which is why I bothered posting here to begin with.As I said, I've gotten reminders from other commishes about lineups in the past (and I'm a very, very active owner). I put myself in everyone's shoes. If I was the opponent and another owner notified him about AP's status, I wouldn't even dream about being upset about that. If I noticed it, I'd tell him myself as that's not how the playoffs should go this late in the year. Putting in the work all year and missing out because of a late scratch doesn't feel right. Sure, he should be on top of it, but things come up and as there was no indication prior to the game that he wouldn't play, I can understand if it was missed. I also think if nothing was said, he'd have no reason to complain as I'm not there to babysit. But in the end, it's something that, if sitting in front of a computer and seeing is a no-question substitution. Lack of availability or technology shouldn't get in the way of that, IMO.If I was the AP owner, I'd appreciate a heads up but I wouldn't fault anyone for not telling me as the ultimate responsibility is mine. Just so you know, here are the 2 starting rosters:Campbell (Rodgers)ForteBJGEMcCoyD. MasonMike ThomasKevin BossBradyMcFaddenAPBoweHolmesMarshallPettigrewI don't know about you, but I'd MUCH rather face the 1st team. As a result, I'm now facing the 2nd team in the Super Bowl. I don't even think it's close. I ultimately hurt myself by informing him but as I felt it was the right thing to do, I did it without even looking closely as it had 0 factor in my decision.
 
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I would write him a letter and mail it.
That's the thoughtful thing to do.Bad coaches deserve to lose. Had a guy call me because he wasn't near a computer. I knew Roy Williams was out and he had him in his lineup. I didn't mention anything about it. Eventually he asked if Roy Williams was playing today. I said nope. If he didn't ask, Williams was going to be in his lineup. He then asked who he should start in his place Mike Thomas (obvious) or Blair White. I told him that's his call. He said put Blair White in. I said nothing even though it was a bad decision. That's as close as it should get to helping another owner.
 
The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.
Not a chance. As I said, I didn't even bother looking at who I'd rather face and I'd never base my decision on that. And I most definitely wasn't trying to do something unethical which is why I bothered posting here to begin with.As I said, I've gotten reminders from other commishes about lineups in the past (and I'm a very, very active owner). I put myself in everyone's shoes. If I was the opponent and another owner notified him about AP's status, I wouldn't even dream about being upset about that. If I noticed it, I'd tell him myself as that's not how the playoffs should go this late in the year. Putting in the work all year and missing out because of a late scratch doesn't feel right. Sure, he should be on top of it, but things come up and as there was no indication prior to the game that he wouldn't play, I can understand if it was missed. I also think if nothing was said, he'd have no reason to complain as I'm not there to babysit. But in the end, it's something that, if sitting in front of a computer and seeing is a no-question substitution. Lack of availability or technology shouldn't get in the way of that, IMO.If I was the AP owner, I'd appreciate a heads up but I wouldn't fault anyone for not telling me as the ultimate responsibility is mine. Just so you know, here are the 2 starting rosters:Campbell (Rodgers)ForteBJGEMcCoyD. MasonMike ThomasKevin BossBradyMcFaddenAPBoweHolmesMarshallPettigrewI don't know about you, but I'd MUCH rather face the 1st team. As a result, I'm now facing the 2nd team in the Super Bowl. I don't even think it's close. I ultimately hurt myself by informing him but as I felt it was the right thing to do, I did it without even looking closely as it had 0 factor in my decision.
did you tell the rest of the league the reason he won is because of you?
 
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I would warn him that if he come to this thread hell get to read about a bunch of nancies who wouldnt help out a buddy and who have a zillion excuses about how a commissioner should be a robot and never have friends or tell them anything so see ya wouldnt wanna be ya my brothers.

 
Any heads up you get-- whether from the commish or friends or whatever-- is a bonus. You're not entitled to it and it's not owed to you. Likewise, as an opponent there is no "wall of silence" anyone has to obey to make sure your opponent doesn't fix their lineup. It's neither wrong nor right to tell someone about the lineup.

For me, the standard is...would you do it if you weren't the commish, and just an owner? Most owners don't follow the playoffs as closely if they're not in them. I do. I root for my friends and I would absolutely give them a heads-up. If the opponent doesn't like it...too bad. But if I didn't normally pay attention as an owner I would hold to that standard as a commish. Let it play out however it plays out.

Remember, this isn't "special commissioner knowledge" he's dispensing out while playing favorites. Everyone knew Peterson was expected to play, and everyone learned he was a scratch. As an owner and football fan he can tell his friends whatever he wants. If it was secret lineups and the commish saw it with his commish powers and gave the guy a heads-up, that's different and totally wrong.

This was public, above-board knowledge. There should be no expectation to provide that info or keep them in the dark.

 
The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.
Not a chance. As I said, I didn't even bother looking at who I'd rather face and I'd never base my decision on that. And I most definitely wasn't trying to do something unethical which is why I bothered posting here to begin with.As I said, I've gotten reminders from other commishes about lineups in the past (and I'm a very, very active owner). I put myself in everyone's shoes. If I was the opponent and another owner notified him about AP's status, I wouldn't even dream about being upset about that. If I noticed it, I'd tell him myself as that's not how the playoffs should go this late in the year. Putting in the work all year and missing out because of a late scratch doesn't feel right. Sure, he should be on top of it, but things come up and as there was no indication prior to the game that he wouldn't play, I can understand if it was missed. I also think if nothing was said, he'd have no reason to complain as I'm not there to babysit. But in the end, it's something that, if sitting in front of a computer and seeing is a no-question substitution. Lack of availability or technology shouldn't get in the way of that, IMO.If I was the AP owner, I'd appreciate a heads up but I wouldn't fault anyone for not telling me as the ultimate responsibility is mine. Just so you know, here are the 2 starting rosters:Campbell (Rodgers)ForteBJGEMcCoyD. MasonMike ThomasKevin BossBradyMcFaddenAPBoweHolmesMarshallPettigrewI don't know about you, but I'd MUCH rather face the 1st team. As a result, I'm now facing the 2nd team in the Super Bowl. I don't even think it's close. I ultimately hurt myself by informing him but as I felt it was the right thing to do, I did it without even looking closely as it had 0 factor in my decision.
did you tell the rest of the league the reason he won is because of you?
Nope, why would I? That's just an awkward announcement. "Hey, I called up X and told him AP was out". But, it's not a secret either. In fact, as I didn't have his number on me, I called another owner who is friends with him and he's the one that told me that he was stuck at work and actually called him himself. He also told me he had already tried talking to him shortly before but didn't immediately get a hold of him. Oh, and I also told another owner when he called me up (as a spectator) and noticed he had AP in and then noticed the change. So no, not something I'm trying to keep quiet. If I felt I needed to do that, then I wouldn't have made the call to begin with.
 
Any heads up you get-- whether from the commish or friends or whatever-- is a bonus. You're not entitled to it and it's not owed to you. Likewise, as an opponent there is no "wall of silence" anyone has to obey to make sure your opponent doesn't fix their lineup. It's neither wrong nor right to tell someone about the lineup.For me, the standard is...would you do it if you weren't the commish, and just an owner? Most owners don't follow the playoffs as closely if they're not in them. I do. I root for my friends and I would absolutely give them a heads-up. If the opponent doesn't like it...too bad. But if I didn't normally pay attention as an owner I would hold to that standard as a commish. Let it play out however it plays out. Remember, this isn't "special commissioner knowledge" he's dispensing out while playing favorites. Everyone knew Peterson was expected to play, and everyone learned he was a scratch. As an owner and football fan he can tell his friends whatever he wants. If it was secret lineups and the commish saw it with his commish powers and gave the guy a heads-up, that's different and totally wrong. This was public, above-board knowledge. There should be no expectation to provide that info or keep them in the dark.
This is EXACTLY how I feel. I would fault no one for keeping quiet about it if they saw it, commish or not. I would also not fault anyone for sharing the info, commish or not. I routinely call other friends prior to the games to see if there's news I missed or share any news. Likewise, I've seen some friends have a mistake in their lineup and brought it up and had the same done for me. It was nice, but I would never be upset if it didn't happen.And, just because I made the call during the playoffs doesn't mean I have an obligation to check everyone's lineups all the time. If I'm ever looking at them and see something late that was obviously missed, I'll bring it up.
 
This is EXACTLY how I feel. I would fault no one for keeping quiet about it if they saw it, commish or not. I would also not fault anyone for sharing the info, commish or not. I routinely call other friends prior to the games to see if there's news I missed or share any news. Likewise, I've seen some friends have a mistake in their lineup and brought it up and had the same done for me. It was nice, but I would never be upset if it didn't happen.And, just because I made the call during the playoffs doesn't mean I have an obligation to check everyone's lineups all the time. If I'm ever looking at them and see something late that was obviously missed, I'll bring it up.
That's the thing, who else trolls around the site looking at other peoples starting line ups besides the commish? People barely have enough time to manage information and lineups for their 4+ leagues, let alone look at peoples starting line ups that they don't face. Hell I barely have time to look at my opponents line ups because I running info on my leagues. The only time i actually see lineups might be in the stattracker. So basically the two players normally in this situation would be the opponent and the commish. But hey, I guess you guys aren't as competitive as some of the others in here, so what ever floats your boat. Still feel if the commish is trolling rosters he should be notifying everyone.
 
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This is EXACTLY how I feel. I would fault no one for keeping quiet about it if they saw it, commish or not. I would also not fault anyone for sharing the info, commish or not. I routinely call other friends prior to the games to see if there's news I missed or share any news. Likewise, I've seen some friends have a mistake in their lineup and brought it up and had the same done for me. It was nice, but I would never be upset if it didn't happen.And, just because I made the call during the playoffs doesn't mean I have an obligation to check everyone's lineups all the time. If I'm ever looking at them and see something late that was obviously missed, I'll bring it up.
That's the thing, who else trolls around the site looking at other peoples starting line ups besides the commish? People barely have enough time to manage information and lineups for their 4+ leagues, let alone look at peoples starting line ups that they don't face. So basically the two players normally in this situation would be the opponent and the commish. But hey, I guess you guys aren't as competitive as some of the others in here, so what ever floats your boat. Still feel if the commish is trolling rosters he should be notifying everyone.
Actually, the only reason I noticed it is because I was in the playoffs and their matchup was next to mine. I didn't even lpay much attention to their lineups until the end of the day on Sunday and saw what they both needed. Also, I've been following the matchups of quite a few teams in leagues where I'm not in it anymore. In one league last night, I'm not in the playoffs and was following Chicago's defense as they got the final sack to put one team over the other and then had fun with it in the chat. So, if you call that "trolling around", then I do that in pretty much every league I'm in, both for my matchups and others. I don't follow every single one, especially during the year. Not sure why you're equating sharing of information as being less competitive, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
 
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The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.
Not a chance. As I said, I didn't even bother looking at who I'd rather face and I'd never base my decision on that. And I most definitely wasn't trying to do something unethical which is why I bothered posting here to begin with.As I said, I've gotten reminders from other commishes about lineups in the past (and I'm a very, very active owner). I put myself in everyone's shoes. If I was the opponent and another owner notified him about AP's status, I wouldn't even dream about being upset about that. If I noticed it, I'd tell him myself as that's not how the playoffs should go this late in the year. Putting in the work all year and missing out because of a late scratch doesn't feel right. Sure, he should be on top of it, but things come up and as there was no indication prior to the game that he wouldn't play, I can understand if it was missed. I also think if nothing was said, he'd have no reason to complain as I'm not there to babysit. But in the end, it's something that, if sitting in front of a computer and seeing is a no-question substitution. Lack of availability or technology shouldn't get in the way of that, IMO.If I was the AP owner, I'd appreciate a heads up but I wouldn't fault anyone for not telling me as the ultimate responsibility is mine. Just so you know, here are the 2 starting rosters:Campbell (Rodgers)ForteBJGEMcCoyD. MasonMike ThomasKevin BossBradyMcFaddenAPBoweHolmesMarshallPettigrewI don't know about you, but I'd MUCH rather face the 1st team. As a result, I'm now facing the 2nd team in the Super Bowl. I don't even think it's close. I ultimately hurt myself by informing him but as I felt it was the right thing to do, I did it without even looking closely as it had 0 factor in my decision.
did you tell the rest of the league the reason he won is because of you?
That's just an awkward announcement.
Pretty much sums it up right here. If it's awkward it's probably wrong.
 
The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.
Not a chance. As I said, I didn't even bother looking at who I'd rather face and I'd never base my decision on that. And I most definitely wasn't trying to do something unethical which is why I bothered posting here to begin with.As I said, I've gotten reminders from other commishes about lineups in the past (and I'm a very, very active owner). I put myself in everyone's shoes. If I was the opponent and another owner notified him about AP's status, I wouldn't even dream about being upset about that. If I noticed it, I'd tell him myself as that's not how the playoffs should go this late in the year. Putting in the work all year and missing out because of a late scratch doesn't feel right. Sure, he should be on top of it, but things come up and as there was no indication prior to the game that he wouldn't play, I can understand if it was missed. I also think if nothing was said, he'd have no reason to complain as I'm not there to babysit. But in the end, it's something that, if sitting in front of a computer and seeing is a no-question substitution. Lack of availability or technology shouldn't get in the way of that, IMO.If I was the AP owner, I'd appreciate a heads up but I wouldn't fault anyone for not telling me as the ultimate responsibility is mine. Just so you know, here are the 2 starting rosters:Campbell (Rodgers)ForteBJGEMcCoyD. MasonMike ThomasKevin BossBradyMcFaddenAPBoweHolmesMarshallPettigrewI don't know about you, but I'd MUCH rather face the 1st team. As a result, I'm now facing the 2nd team in the Super Bowl. I don't even think it's close. I ultimately hurt myself by informing him but as I felt it was the right thing to do, I did it without even looking closely as it had 0 factor in my decision.
did you tell the rest of the league the reason he won is because of you?
That's just an awkward announcement.
Pretty much sums it up right here. If it's awkward it's probably wrong.
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Wow. You couldn't have been more wrong to meddle as the commissioner. Your job is to implement/interpret rules, organize and stay the hell out of the way. End of story.

 
Jesus Christ the SP has this wrong. I can only imagine that most of the people telling you this was the wrong move are in their early 20s and/or literally have nothing more important going on than their magic football championship.

I'd say they're all taking it too seriously, but if they were they'd know that there's no honor in winning a fantasy game because your opponent inadvertently started an inactive player anyway. Not everyone is sitting around glued to their league website or getting live updates pushed to their mobile device. You didn't have an obligation to notify the owner, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with what you did. Don't let anyone tell you any different.

 
Wow. You couldn't have been more wrong to meddle as the commissioner. Your job is to implement/interpret rules, organize and stay the hell out of the way. End of story.
What if he was meddling as a friend and fellow owner? Can friends and fellow owners not discuss late-breaking inactives before kickoff? I don't understand why he necessarily has to be acting in his capacity as commissioner. This purity standard is ridiculous, and can be extrapolated out to essentially ban the commissioner from discussing football with any other owner on game day to avoid even the appearance that he might mention something that could influence another owner.
 
I still don't get the whole late scratch argument. AP didn't practice all week, this is something the owner of AP should be watching during a semi final game, not getting calls from the commish that he is out. The friend calling him makes sense, the commish calling around to get his phone number to call him is over the top.

 
what if the commissioner found out that there was a news story on TV about an escaped convict running loose in the league members neighborhood but if he told the league member to turn on the news he would see the scroll about AP being out, but if he didn't turn on the news he would be abducted and murdered by the convict.. a lot of the nutsos in here would rather have the guy get killed than replace AP in thier starting lineup and i say it is a shameful day in America and the shark pool when we would rather have our friends murdered by escaped convicts than be able to replace AP in their lineup for shame for shame

 
Wow. You couldn't have been more wrong to meddle as the commissioner. Your job is to implement/interpret rules, organize and stay the hell out of the way. End of story.
What if he was meddling as a friend and fellow owner? Can friends and fellow owners not discuss late-breaking inactives before kickoff? I don't understand why he necessarily has to be acting in his capacity as commissioner. This purity standard is ridiculous, and can be extrapolated out to essentially ban the commissioner from discussing football with any other owner on game day to avoid even the appearance that he might mention something that could influence another owner.
I've been the commissioner of my league for 18 years and at no point did I ever call up another team in attempt to fix their lineup. ESPECIALLY IN THE PLAYOFFS. They may be my friends/coworkers but it ain't my job to babysit them. That's just part of the deal of being a commish. You have to be trustworthy, bipartisan, and legit otherwise your integrity along with the league's, goes right out the window. He basically colluded his own league or at least gave off the impression of it. Bravo.If he's right, why did he come to a message board to ask if he was right? A: Deep down he knew what he was doing was wrong and just wanted to try and justify it by having a few people pat him on the back for "doing the right thing".The right thing to do is to let nature take it's course. HE DIRECTLY AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF A PLAYOFF GAME. If the other members of his league get wind of this, this league will implode and rightfully so.
 
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Not sure why you're equating sharing of information as being less competitive, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
tell that to the guy that you just knocked out of the playoffs, no really you should, especially if you feel there is nothing wrong with it you won't have a problem notifying the opponent. as should any commish that feels to do the same, you should contact the opponent before providing the information, and say "hey, so and so isn't starting x player so i'm going to let him know." if its not wrong, then the guy will say "thats fine," right? so it's not a bad practice and the OP should start with this very situation.why should the commish take these extra steps, because it is your duty to be an objective and unbiased moderator of the league, that is why each owner trusts you with their hard earned money. if you help someone knock an opponent out of the cash prize, then you need to be fair across the board and help everyone just as effectively, or should ask the opponent if its okay.
 
what if the commissioner found out that there was a news story on TV about an escaped convict running loose in the league members neighborhood but if he told the league member to turn on the news he would see the scroll about AP being out, but if he didn't turn on the news he would be abducted and murdered by the convict.. a lot of the nutsos in here would rather have the guy get killed than replace AP in thier starting lineup and i say it is a shameful day in America and the shark pool when we would rather have our friends murdered by escaped convicts than be able to replace AP in their lineup for shame for shame
Nice analogy. That totally fits this scenario. :lmao:
 
The more I think about this, the more I think the OP probably benefited from this.
Sounds like the OP most definitely did not benefit from this...The more I think about this, the more I think fantasy football isn't for those of you who get pissed off when you fail to obtain a cheap playoff victory just because your opponent takes the inactive players out of his lineup in exchange for ones who are actually playing.If you can't win your playoff game unless your opponent starts an inactive Adrian Peterson on game day, because he's busy doing something productive like say working, then you really shouldn't be whining about it and embarassing yourself.As an alternative to crying like a little girl, I'ld recommend drafting a better team and outscoring your opponent next time chief. And for the rest of you getting all hot and bothered over this scenario, remember this is not a matter of national security. It's a freakin' hobby/game, a source of enjoyment and excitement to enhance your enjoyment of the NFL. Those of you who treat it like it's a theater of war with life and death at stake here, really need to take a deep breath and reassess whether fantasy football is something you should be engaging in. Especially if it causes you to bash someone for exhibiting good sportsmanship, and extoll the virtues of being a piss poor sport instead.
 
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Jesus Christ the SP has this wrong. I can only imagine that most of the people telling you this was the wrong move are in their early 20s and/or literally have nothing more important going on than their magic football championship. I'd say they're all taking it too seriously, but if they were they'd know that there's no honor in winning a fantasy game because your opponent inadvertently started an inactive player anyway. Not everyone is sitting around glued to their league website or getting live updates pushed to their mobile device. You didn't have an obligation to notify the owner, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with what you did. Don't let anyone tell you any different.
Great Posting!
 

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