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Should "I'm benching_____for_____be banned? (1 Viewer)

Im surprised they have been allowed in the SP.

I can see the gray area, but I would have thought they were AC threads.

The Shark Pool (NFL Talk)

Threads that are asking for advice on how you should draft or manage your team belong in the Assistant Coach's Forum.

The Shark Pool is reserved for sharing NFL talk and fantasy football strategy discussion.

The Assistant Coach

This is the forum to look for answers to all of your who to start, trade advice, and rate my team questions.

On one hand these threads do not have the OP asking for advice on their specific team as they are stating what they are doing, but on the other hand, it seems like a clever way to initiate conversation to get advice for your specific team.

I have probably opened 3 of these kinda threads all year.

I just skip them, but there are quite a few of them.

If I wanted advice on WSIS, and didn't want to go to the AC, I would simply start a

I'm benching LT for_____ thread in the SP, to see if enough people sided with or against me, thus giving me my answer.

I suppose decent discussion could come of it, perhaps a compromise?

Im starting ____ over ____

QB edition week 14

Im starting ____ over ____

RB edition week 14

WR, TE, D/ST....this would limit them to only 4-5 per week, or is that still too much?? Maybe 1 master thread?

Either way, the few that I have read basically seemed like a AC thread, with a couple of posts throwing out relevant stats.

 
On one hand these threads do not have the OP asking for advice on their specific team as they are stating what they are doing, but on the other hand, it seems like a clever way to initiate conversation to get advice for your specific team.
So does any thread asking about prospects, deep dynasty stashes, predictions, etc. Most SP threads can be construed as ACF types.
 
I see no place for them in the SP. If you are thinking of benching a stud, start a thread on the reasons why and see if other posters agree/disagree. Naming 2 players is basically a WDIS

 
Im surprised they have been allowed in the SP.

I can see the gray area, but I would have thought they were AC threads.

The Shark Pool (NFL Talk)

Threads that are asking for advice on how you should draft or manage your team belong in the Assistant Coach's Forum.

The Shark Pool is reserved for sharing NFL talk and fantasy football strategy discussion.

The Assistant Coach

This is the forum to look for answers to all of your who to start, trade advice, and rate my team questions.

On one hand these threads do not have the OP asking for advice on their specific team as they are stating what they are doing, but on the other hand, it seems like a clever way to initiate conversation to get advice for your specific team.

I have probably opened 3 of these kinda threads all year.

I just skip them, but there are quite a few of them.

If I wanted advice on WSIS, and didn't want to go to the AC, I would simply start a

I'm benching LT for_____ thread in the SP, to see if enough people sided with or against me, thus giving me my answer.

I suppose decent discussion could come of it, perhaps a compromise?

Im starting ____ over ____

QB edition week 14

Im starting ____ over ____

RB edition week 14

WR, TE, D/ST....this would limit them to only 4-5 per week, or is that still too much?? Maybe 1 master thread?

Either way, the few that I have read basically seemed like a AC thread, with a couple of posts throwing out relevant stats.
I see no place for them in the SP. If you are thinking of benching a stud, start a thread on the reasons why and see if other posters agree/disagree. Naming 2 players is basically a WDIS
:goodposting: x2
 
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If Yudkin's post about OJ gets moved and Chase Stuart's trivia posts get moved then I'm gonna stop coming to FBG's, because the whiners are taking over! I don't want to look through 6 forums to find what I need, I want to look through 1. I would prefer a forum that is labeled football and another that's labeled everything else. Strip this forum too much, and I'm willing to bet that the people that leave outnumber those who stay.
Then you are in the wrong place.
Am I or are you?
Well, youre the one who wants to look through only one forum for all your FF needs, and FBG has multiple forums. I like the fact that there are different forums, so i am going to say you are the one who is in the wrong place.
:thumbup:
 
a prerequisite for #####ing about what should be in the ACF should be that the poster actually spends some time in the ACF. That would go a lot further towards solving the "problem".

 
Why were add it can the mods show people the proper use of the search function.

Nothing like the same thread 8 times on the first page [/rant]

 
big_donkey said:
There have been alot of these "I'm benching/starting_______________for" type threads all season. I don't mind them as long as the OP doesnt ask a WDIS question. Making a statement that I'm starting_____ is much different than "should I". Some people belive that these posts should be in the AC forum only.

If there are any mods out ther that can make a ruling or just give a clarificatioin as to where these should be posted. TIA

I have never started one of these myself, but enjoy reading them.

Lets us Fantasy Football Junkies know where to post these and then everyone will be happy.

Thanks.
If you enjoy reading them why would you start a thread asking if they should be banned? :wall:
 
the "i'm benching_______ for" or "i'm starting______over" are WDIS threads. whoever starts or posts in these threads are looking in the responses for the player they are thinking of possibly starting and are wanting reassurance. and when posted in the shark pool they get many more responses

i don't care as much if its a WDIS for a deep/complcated league where the players aren't as well known or reported on as much where u can't get as much info on. however when its do i start Portis or Michael Turner type WDIS it wants to make me scream do your own F$#k1_g homework b/c the info is out there in 1000forms for the decision to be made.

 
Egh. This has been discussed and answered many times before - especially by Joe. The threads can include decent strategy discussions so eliminating them would be counterproductive to some decent discussionsn (paraphrasing joe, here).

Also, this is a FF message board and everyone is here for FF. I know the SP is the NFL board and not FF, but crossover/overlap is expected and there's nothing you can do about it.

I suggest you roll with it. If you don't like the thread because of the topic, then stay out of it. Complaining about it makes the pool a worse.

If people would just stay away from the things they didn't like, this place would be much more tolerable. The incessant whining and complaining is much more annoying than stupid threads.

I can avoid the threads I don't like or want to be part of. I can't avoid the :cry: because people flood every thread with this ######ry.

 
Egh. This has been discussed and answered many times before - especially by Joe. The threads can include decent strategy discussions so eliminating them would be counterproductive to some decent discussionsn (paraphrasing joe, here). Also, this is a FF message board and everyone is here for FF. I know the SP is the NFL board and not FF, but crossover/overlap is expected and there's nothing you can do about it. I suggest you roll with it. If you don't like the thread because of the topic, then stay out of it. Complaining about it makes the pool a worse. If people would just stay away from the things they didn't like, this place would be much more tolerable. The incessant whining and complaining is much more annoying than stupid threads. I can avoid the threads I don't like or want to be part of. I can't avoid the :cry: because people flood every thread with this ######ry.
Too bad, these threads are ACF material, and as long as people are inconsiderate enough to post them in the Shark Pool, i will let them know they dont belong here.
 
If Yudkin's post about OJ gets moved and Chase Stuart's trivia posts get moved then I'm gonna stop coming to FBG's, because the whiners are taking over! I don't want to look through 6 forums to find what I need, I want to look through 1. I would prefer a forum that is labeled football and another that's labeled everything else. Strip this forum too much, and I'm willing to bet that the people that leave outnumber those who stay.
Yidkin's OJ post is borderline but ok. Stuart's post should be in the FFA Forum he should know better
 
big_donkey said:
There have been alot of these "I'm benching/starting_______________for" type threads all season. I don't mind them as long as the OP doesnt ask a WDIS question. Making a statement that I'm starting_____ is much different than "should I". Some people belive that these posts should be in the AC forum only.

If there are any mods out ther that can make a ruling or just give a clarificatioin as to where these should be posted. TIA

I have never started one of these myself, but enjoy reading them.

Lets us Fantasy Football Junkies know where to post these and then everyone will be happy.

Thanks.
If you enjoy reading them why would you start a thread asking if they should be banned? :towelwave:
Because I was reading a few of these yesterday and several people kept pissing about them being in the SP. I believe that if it's a I'm benching player A for player B for these reasons, it ok for it to be in the SP. If it's a "pick 3 " type post then it should be in the AC forum.Some people have complained about which forum, so I'm asking someone from FBG's to let us know. I don't care either way. I just want all the whinning to stop.

 
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DIdin't read all the posts so sorry if this has been said...

Just my .02 ......

No, if you don't want to read them, don't look at them... SOme times people just like to hear others thoughts to see if they are similar to ones own thoughts.... THis is a great fantasy message board and things like this are what make it great.. If you don't like it's real easy to not read.... I know I look at them occasionally to see what others are thinking......

GT

 
DIdin't read all the posts so sorry if this has been said...Just my .02 ......No, if you don't want to read them, don't look at them... SOme times people just like to hear others thoughts to see if they are similar to ones own thoughts.... THis is a great fantasy message board and things like this are what make it great.. If you don't like it's real easy to not read.... I know I look at them occasionally to see what others are thinking...... GT
Then why not just eliminate the ACF?
 
Burning Sensation said:
big_donkey said:
Burning Sensation said:
Doesnt really matter, these boards have gotten worse every year. Pretty soon it will be nothing but biased player arguments, and not very well disguised WDIS threads. If it were not for F&L and a couple other decent posters, i wouldnt even come here anymore.
What I don't understand in your case is, if you don't like these topics then why do you open it, read it & post yourself?
Because the Shark Pool is basically turning into the ACF. People post ACF questions in the Shark Pool because most of the good posters dont go to the ACF. So guess what will happen when the Shark Pool turns into the ACF? Most of the good posters will find somewhere else to go.
I understand what your saying. But you still do not have to read any "I'm starting_________over______" threads. If you choose to, then thats on you.
Thats true, but pretty soon there will be so many of them, that i will just stop coming here. It has gotten worse every year since i have been here, and i have been here a long time.
I really get very little info on about 80% of the posts on this site even though FBG and a lot of posters do a very good job of making good threads. I' usually reading through pages of quoted and re-quoted threads, to find a post or 2 that gives me what I'm looking for. If I'm able to put up with that, you can skip a few threads.
I can handle a couple here and there. My problem is if threads like that are not discouraged, the Shark Pool is going to turn into the ACF.
I agree, and the WDIS threads won't just sink to the bottom unanswered. You'll have OPs constantly bumping them up and reposting. Have you seen how craigslist.com looks lately in the classifieds? Imagine a constant battle of look at my thread with the good news and info threads lost in the mess. WDIS posters should just look at the FBG rankings and be done with it.
 
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Burning Sensation said:
big_donkey said:
Burning Sensation said:
Doesnt really matter, these boards have gotten worse every year. Pretty soon it will be nothing but biased player arguments, and not very well disguised WDIS threads. If it were not for F&L and a couple other decent posters, i wouldnt even come here anymore.
What I don't understand in your case is, if you don't like these topics then why do you open it, read it & post yourself?
Because the Shark Pool is basically turning into the ACF. People post ACF questions in the Shark Pool because most of the good posters dont go to the ACF. So guess what will happen when the Shark Pool turns into the ACF? Most of the good posters will find somewhere else to go.
I understand what your saying. But you still do not have to read any "I'm starting_________over______" threads. If you choose to, then thats on you.
Thats true, but pretty soon there will be so many of them, that i will just stop coming here. It has gotten worse every year since i have been here, and i have been here a long time.
I really get very little info on about 80% of the posts on this site even though FBG and a lot of posters do a very good job of making good threads. I' usually reading through pages of quoted and re-quoted threads, to find a post or 2 that gives me what I'm looking for. If I'm able to put up with that, you can skip a few threads.
I can handle a couple here and there. My problem is if threads like that are not discouraged, the Shark Pool is going to turn into the ACF.
I agree, and the WDIS threads won't just sink to the bottom unanswered. You'll have OPs constantly bumping them up and reposting. Have you seen how craigslist.com looks lately in the classifieds? Imagine a constant battle of look at my thread with the good news and info threads lost in the mess. WDIS posters should just look at the FBG rankings and be done with it.
My guess is that people posting WDIS threads in the Shark Pool are not subscribers. Why pay for the info, when you can rudly get it in the Shark Pool.
 
DIdin't read all the posts so sorry if this has been said...

Just my .02 ......

No, if you don't want to read them, don't look at them... SOme times people just like to hear others thoughts to see if they are similar to ones own thoughts.... THis is a great fantasy message board and things like this are what make it great.. If you don't like it's real easy to not read.... I know I look at them occasionally to see what others are thinking......

GT
Pretty much what the AC forum is for.
 
Doesn't bother me. If you don't like it, don't read it. Simple as that. Its good to see what others are thinking about specific players compared to other players in a given week.

The information is much more relevant/useful than some of the others threads on these boards.

 
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It is ruining this forum. There always 10 or 15 of them clogging up the forum and they are dumb. Who CARES if you are sitting Rudi Johnson for Cedric Benson.

 
Maybe if the ACF had decent traffic from folks that know FF more people would post there instead of posting it in the SP

 
Maybe if the ACF had decent traffic from folks that know FF more people would post there instead of posting it in the SP
Fact is, most people dont care about other peoples teams, thats why they dont go to the ACF. That is no reason to post ACF questions in the Shark Pool though.
 
Go and pull up some of these threads. I just pulled up some of the recent ones:

---The "I'm benching Westbrook for.." has 3 posts by the OP

---The "I'm starting **** over AJ this week" has 6 posts by the OP

The problem with these threads is that they are DEFINITELY disguised WDIS threads at worst or at best are "am I crazy for benching/starting so & so". Both of these belong in the ACF. What's annoying about them is that if these threads don't generate much interest, the OP will oftentimes go back and bump them hoping for more "discussion".

Can there be some valuable discussion in SOME of these threads? Sure, occasionally. But it's few and far between and often requires wading through a bunch of crap.

If the OP's of these threads are truly just trying to bring up discussion, then leave out every other player than the player they want to discuss. If you are benching Westbrook, then start a thread as to why and give some analysis or insight. Pretty simple.

Bottomline:

"I'm benching Westbrook because..." = Shark Pool material

"I'm benching Westbrook for ****" = ACF material

 
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I'm part of the "if you don't want to read them, don't open them crowd.

In my mind, the real question is "should this thread have been banned?" - or at least closed by now. Just the fact that someone feels the need to make the same argument at least 10 times gives me a real burning sensation.

 
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I'm part of the "if you don't want to read them, don't open them crowd.

In my mind, the real question is "should this thread have been banned?" - or at least closed by now. Just the fact that someone feels the need to make the same argument about 8 times gives me a real burning sensation.
:confused:
 
I'm part of the "if you don't want to read them, don't open them crowd.

In my mind, the real question is "should this thread have been banned?" - or at least closed by now. Just the fact that someone feels the need to make the same argument about 8 times gives me a real burning sensation.
:)
You keep saying the same things in the same threads. Continually bumping these threads you hate to the top of the page and not letting them fall off.....then complaining again that they are still there. Shockingly if you would stop posting in these threads they would be gone much faster. Perhaps you should try ignoring them over the next few days and see if they start to fall off the front page a bit faster.
 
I'm part of the "if you don't want to read them, don't open them crowd.

In my mind, the real question is "should this thread have been banned?" - or at least closed by now. Just the fact that someone feels the need to make the same argument about 8 times gives me a real burning sensation.
:)
You keep saying the same things in the same threads. Continually bumping these threads you hate to the top of the page and not letting them fall off.....then complaining again that they are still there. Shockingly if you would stop posting in these threads they would be gone much faster. Perhaps you should try ignoring them over the next few days and see if they start to fall off the front page a bit faster.
I never complained about this thread being here, just the WDIS threads, and you will notice i havnt bumped those.
 
maybe all the paid subs should have their own forum because sometimes people ask for info or post info from the paid area which defeats the purpose.

 
I like the idea of making a seperate forum for paid subscribers. That would be excellent. Can weed out all the riffraff and all the little kids flooding the message board with posts on who they are benching Frank Gore for..

 
A thread of you complaining about the aforementioned threads, has even less place in the shark pool.

 
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