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Should this trade get overturned? (1 Viewer)

Overturn the trade?

  • Yes

    Votes: 72 55.8%

  • No

    Votes: 57 44.2%
  • Total voters
    129
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Almas_4th_Child

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I'm in the process of trying to upgrade Phillip Rivers...I couldn't do that. So I ended up looking to gain value for him. One owner in our league has a very poor roster: Romo, Sjax, D. Wilson, Royster, T. Jones, K. Williams, Garcon, Crabtree, Blackmon, S. Hill, Collie, R. Moss, O. Daniels.

He isn't in a win now so I offered: Rivers(younger than Romo), Donald Jones(just a filler), K. Winslow(just a filler), + 1st round rookie pick of another team(should be a top 5 pick) for Romo, Sjackson, Garcon.

Problem is, instead of clicking Donald Jones, I selected Julio Jones.

In less than one minute after the deal was accepted, I posted on the league message board that it was an error as I clicked the wrong Jones.

This other owner is saying: it's a legit offer, I should check my trades more closely before I offer, I'm not following the rules, and that it's buyers remorse.

Should it be reversed?

 
The other owner is being disingenuous and is trying to take advantage of an honest mistake.

Complete lack of integrity for trying to push the trade in the face of an obvious error.

 
If your idiotic mistake had made the trade league-unbalancingly unfair in favor of the guy you offered it to, it would be overturnable. But since it's...at the absolute WORST...no more unbalanced than the trade you intended to offer, I'd tell you to suck eggs. Karma for attempting to offer a lopsided, BS trade.

 
'Zeff said:
If your idiotic mistake had made the trade league-unbalancingly unfair in favor of the guy you offered it to, it would be overturnable. But since it's...at the absolute WORST...no more unbalanced than the trade you intended to offer, I'd tell you to suck eggs. Karma for attempting to offer a lopsided, BS trade.
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Romo(32) + Sjack(29) + Garcon (26) for Rivers(30) + Robert Woods(top 5 pick) isn't close for a team not competing :shrug:ETA: You've never made an error before. I posted in less than a minute of it happening.
 
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If someone immediately posts that it was an error, they should get the benefit of the doubt if its a real obvious error and this would seem like one. It happened to me once, I posted Mike Wallace instead of Tampa Mike Williams after some back and forth. Williams had already been part of the deal and it was reposted etc... He was cool about it and it was reversed-since then this scenario put in the rules in these extreme cases. It's a case to case thing too... Mistakes happen.

Now, having said that, that's a pretty sizable difference and that should probably be a part of the criteria. I didn't vote yes or no. You're trade offer seems lousy to begin with, I don't see Rivers an upgrade over Romo exactly, Garcon is better, And SJax should have good value this year... a #5 rookie pick is a crapshoot... So the trade WITH Julio would seem a bad one but not out of the realm of possibility esp if you needed a starter RB. And you get a #1 wr in Garcon... As commish I would probably talk to both parties and then make a decision, on a case by case basis. You may have to live with this one and get it in the rules if the league is rigid but the quick post you made should be enough in almost all cases.

 
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'AngryPatriot said:
If someone immediately posts that it was an error, they should get the benefit of the doubt if its a real obvious error but that's where its tough. It happened to me once, I posted Mike Wallace instead of Tampa Mike Williams after some back and forth. Williams had already been part of the deal and it was reposted etc... He was cool about it and it was reversed-since then this scenario put in the rules in these extreme cases. It's a case to case thing too... Mistakes happen.Now, having said that, that's a pretty sizable difference and that should probably be a part of the criteria. I didn't vote yes or no. You're trade offer seems lousy to begin with, I don't see Rivers an upgrade over Romo exactly, Garcon is better, And SJax should have good value this year... a #5 rookie pick is a crapshoot... So the trade WITH Julio would seem a bad one but not out of the realm of possibility esp if you needed a starter RB. And you get a #1 wr in Garcon... As commish I would probably talk to both parties and then make a decision, on a case by case basis. You may have to live with this one and get it in the rules if the league is rigid.
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Since you mention itMy RB: DMC, Mathews, D. Martin, BJGE, Benson, R. Williams, VereenWR: Cruz, Stevie Johnson, Julio(or Garcon), Jeffery, N. WashingtonNo I don't need Sjax/garcon.
 
Overturned? NO.

It was a mistake. If the other owner is not willing to undo the deal, that is his choice. It could create some discontent in the league in the future if he elects not to reverse the deal, but he might choose to live with it.

As you posted the offer on the site and he accepted it, the commissioner is not required to over turn the trade. You made a mistake. It happens. If he elects to take advantage of it in the name of a game, he is showing his true character and will likely be avoided in the future.

 
'Birdie048 said:
Overturned? NO. It was a mistake. If the other owner is not willing to undo the deal, that is his choice. It could create some discontent in the league in the future if he elects not to reverse the deal, but he might choose to live with it. As you posted the offer on the site and he accepted it, the commissioner is not required to over turn the trade. You made a mistake. It happens. If he elects to take advantage of it in the name of a game, he is showing his true character and will likely be avoided in the future.
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This past spring in the same league I accepted an offer from an owner. He said he messed up, we traded back, then worked towards a new deal towards everyone's liking.
 
He may think you are coming up with a buyers remorse excuse to get out of the deal. If he doesn't undo the deal it sucks but move on and be more careful next time.

 
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That trade is ridiculously lopsided with Julio in it and if the guy won't overturn it he's pretty insecure about his own abilities to win fairly.

 
It is poor form by the other owner, having said that it is your mistake. If the other owner says no, than you have to live with your mistake.

 
'zoonation said:
The other owner is being disingenuous and is trying to take advantage of an honest mistake.Complete lack of integrity for trying to push the trade in the face of an obvious error.
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:goodposting: Considering the lack of discussion prior, the limited time the trade offer set out there and the fact it was immediately identified as an error, the trade should be reversed. Neither party is injured as a consequence. Any of us could make an honest error, and refusing to extend some grace in this scenario is potentially burning a bridge that could have been strengthened instead.Edited to add: We require that their was a meeting of the minds for a trade to be valid, a subjective standard admittedly, but it allows the Commish to act in a case like this. We have had a couple similar situations in our league, but fortunately the owners agreed to reverse the deal immediately.
 
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The commish has said he will overturn it.

The other owner has went crazy to say the least. I'm a cheater, he's leaving the league, he's going to hunt me down, me and the commish at butt _______, etc.

It's clear i'm not dealing with a full deck here.

 
What site was it on?

If it was MFL where the trade is immediately sent to you by email YOU had the same 30 minutes to realize you made a mistake....so you made the mistake twice

I agree that the commissioner shouldn't take any action so all you can do is appeal to the other owner ....but if he is the kind of guy who would have been insulted by your planned offer he may just turn the tables .......either way whose mistake was it?

 
I think in cases like this where the deal is so lopsided that you'd have to brain-dead to want to make the trade, I don't have any problem with overturning it, especially when the party in question says it was a mistake within an hour of doing the deal.

 
Most sites have the ability to e-mail trades... taht being said. 30 Minutes is not a long time, I've often sent out trade offers as I'm running out the door. Sometimes something could slip up (much like this situation). Clearly the trade is lopsided with Julio included within the trade and 30 minutes is a pretty solid window to recognize a mistake and correct it. The fact is this dude probably got the e-mail looked at the trade for 10 minutes making sure he wasn't completely high at what he was seeing then sprinted across his house to the computer to hit accept.

 
'Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:
'Chazzhawk said:
It is poor form by the other owner, having said that it is your mistake. If the other owner says no, than you have to live with your mistake.
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I'm with this.I'm also curious about trading K. Winslow when he was released by the Seahawks and has no team.
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Just a filler so it was an even player trade. He's obviously going to be cut for another player, which is what I was going to do.
 
'Almas_4th_Child said:
The commish has said he will overturn it.The other owner has went crazy to say the least. I'm a cheater, he's leaving the league, he's going to hunt me down, me and the commish at butt _______, etc.It's clear i'm not dealing with a full deck here.
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post what he said :popcorn:
 
bad commish right there. Shouldn't be overturned. If I was him, I doubt I would stay in past this year.

own your mistakes.

 
I know it's neither here nor there, but your original deal was a fleece job. You said it yourself, you aren't dealing with a full deck of cards, and clearly you attempted to capitalize on that.

Serves you right.

 
Reminds me of my baseball keeper league where a manager selected Mike Stanton rather than Giancarlo Stanton this past season. Three picks later, the commissioner stopped the draft and allowed the manager to select Giancarlo instead, as he was not aware of the name change.

IMO it was a bull#### decision by the commissioner. The manager should have been forced to keep his original selection. Pay attention to what you are doing.

 
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'Captain Hook said:
What site was it on?If it was MFL where the trade is immediately sent to you by email YOU had the same 30 minutes to realize you made a mistake....so you made the mistake twice
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I never get an email when I make an offer to someone else. Only if they accept/reject, or if I revoke the offer.
 
This is why leagues have commissioners. It should be overturned. If the other owner is #####ing, he should find a new hobby. This isn't worth freaking out over.

 
As a commissioner I would have put that up to a league vote. I'd itch to overturn it right away, but a league vote would have been more fair IMO.

However, I wouldn't want a guy like the other owner in my league anyways. Fantasy football to me is much more about the fun of legitimately winning than the money. Seriously...what's so hard about playing nice? Anyone that ruins that for me is out of my league or I'm out as owner and commish.

 
I'm just curious how a mistake like this is made. Isn't there a review screen for proposed trades for you to check who's involved? If it was my team, I'm make dang sure the right players are involved.

 
'Almas_4th_Child said:
The commish has said he will overturn it.

The other owner has went crazy to say the least. I'm a cheater, he's leaving the league, he's going to hunt me down, me and the commish at butt _______, etc.

It's clear i'm not dealing with a full deck here.
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I don't think this means what you think it means
 
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