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Sidney Rice - Has the light finally come on? (1 Viewer)

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Is he finally putting it together? You guys buying or selling this kid?

Last 2 weeks he's scored 15.60 and 18.00 in my PPR leagues.

I know Bloom was high on him out of college, and now that he's healthy, might he remain a top 25 WR?

What say you Sharks?

 
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Not sure if it's the light or just being healthy and upgrading from TJACK/Frerotte to Favre.

No player burnt me worse in fantasy football last year than Rice. I started him only twice and both times he got a donut. So I should hate him but I don't. Really last year should be thrown out for him. He had the same injury that Anthony Gonzalez has and really tried to come back to soon and was never effective. He was not more than goal line target last year. But if you throw out last season he seemed to be getting it down near the end of the previous season.

I think the only negative about him now is I'd expect a few down games. With Berrian, Harvin, Shiancoe and a good running game I'd expect 1-2 of this group to come up with bad fantasy games most weeks. Just not enough balls to go around for every week production but I think his year end totals will be strong and I would not be surprised if he had more than 10 TD's on the season.

 
Receptions and yardage have increased every game and he has scored in back to back weeks. Favre looks comfortable with him and looked his way a lot Monday night. FBGs has him targeted 6 times Monday but I believe it was more like 7 or 8. He was a Woodson hook away from grabbing another TD catch as well as they called his number on a goal to go situation from the 2.

Stats wise he looks like he is trending upward but his nice games will be dependent on if he hit pay dirt or not, imo. Peterson, Berrian and Harvin are all going to be a part of the weekly gameplan, but he is just as involved as those 3 from the looks of it.

I'm using him as my WR4 behind Wayne, Calvin and MSW, but I wouldn't think twice about shipping him off for a mid range RB(20-30) that I could use as a flex in my ppr.

 
harryhood said:
Receptions and yardage have increased every game and he has scored in back to back weeks. Favre looks comfortable with him and looked his way a lot Monday night. FBGs has him targeted 6 times Monday but I believe it was more like 7 or 8. He was a Woodson hook away from grabbing another TD catch as well as they called his number on a goal to go situation from the 2. Stats wise he looks like he is trending upward but his nice games will be dependent on if he hit pay dirt or not, imo. Peterson, Berrian and Harvin are all going to be a part of the weekly gameplan, but he is just as involved as those 3 from the looks of it. I'm using him as my WR4 behind Wayne, Calvin and MSW, but I wouldn't think twice about shipping him off for a mid range RB(20-30) that I could use as a flex in my ppr.
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Agree: I own him and I dont trust him. Yet. While the light has come on I dont see him bursting open and not getting the number of goal line throws I would be comfortable with.
 
menobrown said:
Not sure if it's the light or just being healthy and upgrading from TJACK/Frerotte to Favre.
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This. He wasn't right last year and it didn't help that Tarvaris Jackson was his QB.I think Rice has a chance to develop into a productive player. He has good size, hands, and hops. Route running is my only concern with him. His speed is average and he doesn't seem to have good quickness, so he could struggle to consistently gain separation. He could thrive if used in a downfield passing game ala Javon Walker in GB. At worst he should be a big play/deep ball/jump ball guy like Chris Henry.
 
Good defense. Team that prefers to run. One of four potential targets for Favre: Berrian, Rice, Harvin, Shiancoe. Rice will be inconsistent depite having the tools. This team really doesn't want Favre to throw a lot. Next week, for example, I wouldn't be surprised if Brett throws fewer than 20 passes. He only threw 21 against Cleveland. Rice will run somewhere from 4-7 targets/game.

 
I have posted an official buy order on my blog. This will increase his value by weeks end.

Buy now.

 
I was pimping him in the Favre the Viking threads as a primary benificiary to Favre as QB.

Rice's routes tend to be favorite targets for Favre in that offense.

I say he continues to do well...as long as teams line up to stop ADP there are plenty of targets to go around.

 
Muahahaha said:
Good defense. Team that prefers to run. One of four potential targets for Favre: Berrian, Rice, Harvin, Shiancoe. Rice will be inconsistent depite having the tools. This team really doesn't want Favre to throw a lot. Next week, for example, I wouldn't be surprised if Brett throws fewer than 20 passes. He only threw 21 against Cleveland. Rice will run somewhere from 4-7 targets/game.
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This, but I would add that he's got height and leaping ability to be a great redzone target, so he'll probably have multiple weeks with stat lines like 2/25/1 to go with the games like Monday where they throw more and he has more catches and yardage. Definitely a good bench guy/situational play.
 
I'm probably going to have to start him the next two weeks, with Colston and Wayne having their bye weeks. I don't really trust him either, but I trust him more than Eddie Royal and Antonio Bryant.

 
He could end up very valuable through these bye weeks to those who play TD heavy non-PPR. He could be a WW gem.

 
Laugh at me all you want, but Rice is a number 1 WR in the making. He was at Larry Fitzgerald's preseason training mini-camp this year and Fitz said that Rice was a much better athlete than himself and has the talent to be a true #1 receiver in this league. He also mentioned how Rice had a long way to go with working on the little nuances of being a great receiver, but every game this year Rice seems to have gotten better. His routes have gotten crisper, he's finding holes in the zones better, and he seems to have a good chemistry with Favre. Like others have mentioned, he was hurt most of last year and didn't see the field a lot so it hindered his development a bit. He's still only 22 though and it appears Favre has had a very positive effect on him.

The only thing that will hold him back is if Minnesota gets their ground game going early in games, which will limit his targets. However, even in those circumstances he's still Minnesota's best red zone threat from the WR position with his height and leaping ability.

 
I like this kid, athletic, can jump through the roof, etc. Just dont think the offense will provide him with consistent fantasy points. But it would not surprise me to see him do well at all.

Om the add/ drop level, I was tempted to pick him up off waivers as they are playing Stl, but I'd have to drop Garcon and I like Garcon as a better matchup play this week against the Titans.

 
Wouldn't say light has turned on. Moreso a QB has come into town. :confused: Watch the highlights Rice has all the intangibles and entered the league young enough to master his craft VERY early. When he was first drafted he was an extremely raw, skinny kid jumping in with the sharks. Personally I'd like to see him jump ship to a different team. As he has all the makings of a #1 reciever.

Hell look what the league's Wide-Reciever posterboy has to say,

"I think he has all the ability in the world. There's no reason Sidney shouldn't be a big-time starter or a No. 1 in the NFL," Fitzgerald said. "

"This dude is so much more athletic than me," Fitzgerald said, noting that they had played basketball together. "He jumps out of the gym. (He can) shoot. He can do everything, athletically. It's just the technical things he needs to work on."

 
It will be up and down for Rice. Berrian is just now getting into the groove and they still have Percy Harvin. Don't forget this is a running team with that line and ADP. Rice will have some nice performances tho.

 
Minnesota homer here. I love what Rice brings to the team and I own (or have owned) him in all my leagues. Having said that, I think his fantasy upside is somewhat limited in MN with the current cast of characters and scheme. As others have pointed out, this is clearly a run-first offense and there are a lot of options in the passing game. I think he is target #1 in the red zone and will therefore catch a number of touchdowns this year (I projected him at 8). However, his reception totals and yardage will likely be modest and somewhat inconsistent. Against Green Bay, he definitely benefited from the extra attention paid to Percy Harvin (Green Bay put Woodson on Harvin almost all game). But I also agree with others that should these situational factors change, he has all the tools necessary to be a viable #1.

 
MN fan who has been waiting for the lightbulb to go on with Rice, and while I do feel he has improved, I don't see him being a top 30 WR. First, he is probably third or fourth passing option on the team. And second, I don't think the Vikings are going to be passing alot on a regular basis. They want to run the ball and most of the time they will. They have a good enough defense so that they won't often be playing from behind. I think Harvin is simply more talented and Berrian and Shianco are also talented enough to get their share. I just don't think Rice is an elite talent from what I have seen. He is a role player or a WR2--a support player who will have an occasional good game but won't produce on a regular basis.

 
His perceived value is pretty low around the leagues I'm in... I got him with late priority and low blind bidding bucks in 2 different leagues.... cut Chris Henry in both *sniffle*

 
First 2 games:

Rice: 9 targets, 5 catches (56%), 46 yards, 0 TDs

Berrian: 8 targets, 6 catches (75%), 46 yards, 0 TDs

Harvin: 9 targets, 8 receptions (89%), 77 yards, 2 TDs

Last 2 games:

Rice: 13 targets, 9 catches (69%), 126 yards, 2 TDs

Berrian: 19 targets, 10 catches (53%), 131 yards, 1 TD

Harvin: 11 targets, 6 receptions (55%), 90 yards, 0 TDs

:thumbup: Not sure what to make of it. The targets were equally divided the first 2 games. Everyone's numbers went up the last 2 games, but Berrian saw the biggest jump in targets. (BTW, the TEs and RBs have also seen an increase in targets -- from 24 targets in the first 2 games, to 30 targets the last 2 games). I just don't see any indicators that point to any one of those WRs becoming the clear-cut #1 on that team.

 
Mr. Retukes said:
First 2 games:

Rice: 9 targets, 5 catches (56%), 46 yards, 0 TDs

Berrian: 8 targets, 6 catches (75%), 46 yards, 0 TDs

Harvin: 9 targets, 8 receptions (89%), 77 yards, 2 TDs

Last 2 games:

Rice: 13 targets, 9 catches (69%), 126 yards, 2 TDs

Berrian: 19 targets, 10 catches (53%), 131 yards, 1 TD

Harvin: 11 targets, 6 receptions (55%), 90 yards, 0 TDs

:thumbup: Not sure what to make of it. The targets were equally divided the first 2 games. Everyone's numbers went up the last 2 games, but Berrian saw the biggest jump in targets. (BTW, the TEs and RBs have also seen an increase in targets -- from 24 targets in the first 2 games, to 30 targets the last 2 games). I just don't see any indicators that point to any one of those WRs becoming the clear-cut #1 on that team.
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Since Rice is available, that is a risk I'd like to take. The Vikings won't abandon the run but I am sure they would love to balance the attack.
 
I don't think it's really an issue of him being #1 on the team, or putting up 100 catches, or whatever ---- he seems to be pretty strong in the red zone and so could make a good flex.

at least I hope so.......

I like a guy like that because even if you don't get 100 yds, the vikings have a strong enough offense that he should get plenty of red zone opps.

 
There is a very good possibility that my starting WR's this week will be Rice and Sims-Walker. I picked Rice off waivers this week and Sims-Walker last week. So much for the draft. I traded Jennings away and have Housh and Holmes on my bench. Although I may still put Holmes in the lineup in place of Rice, I'm undecided so far. (I know, nobody cares about my fantasy team) I am in a TD heavy league, and am loving all this talk about Rice the redzone threat (God knows the other Rice on my roster (Ray) isn't doing anything in the redzone) I'm going to be cautiously optimistic with Sidney, and I hope you are all right about the redzone opportunities.

 
Favre wants to keep everybody happy. He's about as equally enthusiastic after every one of his post camera grabbing post TD chest bumps.

 
I've always looked forward to Rice producing since his SEC days and i agree with the comments that it has been QB and scheme that have kept him down in the NFL.

However, I think this is a question of whether you believe the Vikes will continue the 30-45 attempts per game for the 40 year old Favre - producing 4-5 reception + 1 TD games for Rice - or the more limited version with not so much going to Rice.

I personally think they will try not to wear out Favre and will stick with the run.

Doesn't mean Rice won't have good games, just that you won't know when to count on them.

 
As is the case with many out there, the bye week this week will force some good players onto the waiver wire. Rice may be one of those candidates. For me, the issue is that Rice is probably the most talented WR Im contemplating dropping, but likely will be incosistent. Who is the #1 there? Probably Berrian, but Harvin gets a number of plays drawn for him, Shiancoe is a red zone target and Rice has the ability to be a number one. That said, is Rice better than say, Britt whom is not at Rice's level yet but may get a lot more targets (or any other WR who may be considered around Rice's rankings).

It's a tough call, because big time running game plus many passing options makes for a questionable fantasy season imo.

 
The correct answer is Favre. He could even make B. Edwards look good.

Thank you Packers and Jets for giving up on Favre, Signed 4-0 Vikings

 
Run first team with a strong defense, many other receiving weapons. This all equals not enough targets to go around and inconsistent WR. They don't really want Favre throwing more than 30 times/game.

 
Mr. Retukes said:
First 2 games:

Rice: 9 targets, 5 catches (56%), 46 yards, 0 TDs

Berrian: 8 targets, 6 catches (75%), 46 yards, 0 TDs

Harvin: 9 targets, 8 receptions (89%), 77 yards, 2 TDs

Last 2 games:

Rice: 13 targets, 9 catches (69%), 126 yards, 2 TDs

Berrian: 19 targets, 10 catches (53%), 131 yards, 1 TD

Harvin: 11 targets, 6 receptions (55%), 90 yards, 0 TDs

:shrug: Not sure what to make of it. The targets were equally divided the first 2 games. Everyone's numbers went up the last 2 games, but Berrian saw the biggest jump in targets. (BTW, the TEs and RBs have also seen an increase in targets -- from 24 targets in the first 2 games, to 30 targets the last 2 games). I just don't see any indicators that point to any one of those WRs becoming the clear-cut #1 on that team.
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IIRC, Berrian played week 1 but was no where near 100%. I would say this bodes well for Bernard if anything.
 
Paper Lions said:
Mr. Retukes said:
First 2 games:

Rice: 9 targets, 5 catches (56%), 46 yards, 0 TDs

Berrian: 8 targets, 6 catches (75%), 46 yards, 0 TDs

Harvin: 9 targets, 8 receptions (89%), 77 yards, 2 TDs

Last 2 games:

Rice: 13 targets, 9 catches (69%), 126 yards, 2 TDs

Berrian: 19 targets, 10 catches (53%), 131 yards, 1 TD

Harvin: 11 targets, 6 receptions (55%), 90 yards, 0 TDs

:shrug: Not sure what to make of it. The targets were equally divided the first 2 games. Everyone's numbers went up the last 2 games, but Berrian saw the biggest jump in targets. (BTW, the TEs and RBs have also seen an increase in targets -- from 24 targets in the first 2 games, to 30 targets the last 2 games). I just don't see any indicators that point to any one of those WRs becoming the clear-cut #1 on that team.
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IIRC, Berrian played week 1 but was no where near 100%. I would say this bodes well for Bernard if anything.
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:thumbup:
 
I'm not sure I blame him for poor production in the past. He didnt have an actual NFL QB throwing him the ball.

I figured having a veteran like farve on the team, he would learn to run routes or he would find the bench. Say what you will about farve, but he has a history of taking a young WR with potential and turning him into a player.

He may have personality issues and may be a bit of a diva, but this has always been one of his strengths.

I think Rice has arrived, and he is for real.

grab him if hes on your waiver wire.

 
Favre said he loves to see Rice one on one as he thinks nobody can stop him. Don't have a quote but the announcers mentioned it a dozen times during the game.

I am a big Rice fan and it is nice to finally see him putting it together and also have a QB who can get the ball to him. I almost gave up on him this year but I am glad I didn't. This recent production shows me that he can be a #1 WR for a long time to come and he is very young.

 
Im SHOCKED more are not talking about him. He is looking like the #1WR in Minn. From Rotoworld...and I agree with their opinion

* Sidney Rice is Brett Favre's favorite receiver. Rice's size allows Favre to throw up questionable deep balls when he knows Rice is single-covered. Rice has the most upside and is the best fantasy option of the Vikings' receivers.
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Best WR in Minny...hands down.

Remember he came out at the tender age of 19. He has matured physicaly and also is fully recovered from a nagging knee injury last season. He is the real deal.

Oh a and it helps to have a HOF tossing you the rock with pin point accuracy. Favre looks sick.

 
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Im SHOCKED more are not talking about him. He is looking like the #1WR in Minn. From Rotoworld...and I agree with their opinion

* Sidney Rice is Brett Favre's favorite receiver. Rice's size allows Favre to throw up questionable deep balls when he knows Rice is single-covered. Rice has the most upside and is the best fantasy option of the Vikings' receivers.
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With Harvin hurting, Rice's value only increases. He was targeted a boatload yesterday. I scooped him up off waivers earlier in the week and I couldn't be happier. He'll be supplanting Steve Smith (CAR) in my starting lineup from here on out. I wouldn't be shocked to see him finish WR10 or higher. :shrug:
 
(Rotoworld) Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell said Sidney Rice reminds him of Larry Fitzgerald.

Analysis: "He has a catch radius like Larry Fitzgerald," Bevell said of Rice. "It's huge. So we love that about him." Rice credits offseason workouts with Cris Carter and Fitzgerald for his emergence. Rice already has 17 catches for 233 yards with two touchdowns. His career highs are 31 catches, 396 yards and four touchdowns.

 
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(Rotoworld) Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell said Sidney Rice reminds him of Larry Fitzgerald.

Analysis: "He has a catch radius like Larry Fitzgerald," Bevell said of Rice. "It's huge. So we love that about him." Rice credits offseason workouts with Cris Carter and Fitzgerald for his emergence. Rice already has 17 catches for 233 yards with two touchdowns. His career highs are 31 catches, 396 yards and four touchdowns.
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Rice has 23 receptions for 409 yards after yesterday.
 
....and now brett is utilizing his TE. Shiancoe has scored in 4 straight games. Berrian, Rice, harvins, Shiancoe, ADP, and even Chester Taylor all warrant condiseration depending on you league size, and format. With 6 teams on bye the next few weeks, you damn near got to consider all of them! Breet has done this repeatedly throughout his career. he finds talented guys and gives them the ball. Sharpe, Brooks, Jackson, Chmura, Freeman, Franks, Driver, and Jennings, have all greatly benefitted from his presnce at QB. He made stars out of Rison, Beebe in games when he needed something different. Jones, Nelson, and Finley would have been next, and the packers would not have fallen like they did last year, had brett been there. That is not a knock on Rodgers at all. Simply a fact that can't be disputed. Now Favre has a new crop of guys to feed the ball to. ADP, Taylor, Berrian, Rice, Shianco, and Harvins. Never before has he had this many toys to play with. You know there will be some setbacks this season for he and the vikes, but Childress deserves plenty of credit for making this move against all the scrutiny he knew he would receive.

To answer the post.....Yes Rice has arrived, thanks to the talent he always had and brett favre realizing it, and exploiting other teams with it!

 
remote controller said:
....and now brett is utilizing his TE. Shiancoe has scored in 4 straight games. Berrian, Rice, harvins, Shiancoe, ADP, and even Chester Taylor all warrant condiseration depending on you league size, and format. With 6 teams on bye the next few weeks, you damn near got to consider all of them! Breet has done this repeatedly throughout his career. he finds talented guys and gives them the ball. Sharpe, Brooks, Jackson, Chmura, Freeman, Franks, Driver, and Jennings, have all greatly benefitted from his presnce at QB. He made stars out of Rison, Beebe in games when he needed something different. Jones, Nelson, and Finley would have been next, and the packers would not have fallen like they did last year, had brett been there. That is not a knock on Rodgers at all. Simply a fact that can't be disputed. Now Favre has a new crop of guys to feed the ball to. ADP, Taylor, Berrian, Rice, Shianco, and Harvins. Never before has he had this many toys to play with. You know there will be some setbacks this season for he and the vikes, but Childress deserves plenty of credit for making this move against all the scrutiny he knew he would receive.

To answer the post.....Yes Rice has arrived, thanks to the talent he always had and brett favre realizing it, and exploiting other teams with it!
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http://data.jsonline.com/sports/favre/default.aspx - sortable stuffhere are about 53 of them http://data.jsonline.com/sports/favre/Favr...hdowns.aspx?s=1

 
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