Sidney Rice (1 Viewer)

[Eminence]

From what I've seen, this is a guy whose career has been riddled with injuries. He had that miracle 1,300 yard / 8 touchdown season with Brett Favre.

Was that all a product of the Hall of Famer?

Was he a victim of Tavaris Jackson last year?

Is Rice a buy low?

He's only 25 years old but seems to have a different injury every year.

Seahawks homers?

Vikings homers?

Sidney Rice's mother?

 

[JPeso]

I still like Sid, obviously not as much as two years ago before injuries have continued to hamper him, but I still very much stand by the original "injury risk aside" view point on his ability - he's a pimp...but he's got to be discounted.

This year, I had him valued at an early 2nd, and divested in several leagues for late 1sts to grab some of the other WRs, primarily because Sid was my WR6-8 and wouldn't see the light of day in my lineup. This class was stronger than others at the back end of the 1st round though - most years (next year included) I'd be very happy acquiring Sid at 1.10 price.

It comes down to how much risk you are willing to accept. All teams are not created equal in terms of how much risk they can logically accept and still compete/not skip a beat. In dynasty, I'd much rather invest in Rice as opposed to some of the similarly priced options like DHB and Lloyd.

Sid's got a terrific upside - there are few that track the ball mid-air like Rice (one of the main reasons I jumped on the Torrey Smith bandwagon very early). Flynn won't have to be that accurate with a tracker like Sid. He's just got to give him a chance. I like a healthy Sid's chances of approaching 80, 1200, 6 with any of Flynn/Jackson/Wilson starting. Obviously, "a healthy Rice" is risky to count on, but he's been discounted enough now to where the market value is fair for a player with his point upside.

 

[mad sweeney]

From what I've seen, this is a guy whose career has been riddled with injuries. He had that miracle 1,300 yard / 8 touchdown season with Brett Favre.Was that all a product of the Hall of Famer?Was he a victim of Tavaris Jackson last year?Is Rice a buy low?He's only 25 years old but seems to have a different injury every year.Seahawks homers?Vikings homers?Sidney Rice's mother?

First and foremost, Jackson is just not very good. He's a great leader, a great teammate, doesn't complain, plays through injuries, but he's a back up QB. He won't throw the ball unless the WR's already open and when Rice was on the field TJ locked onto him and almost never looked elsewhere. Plus, the Seattle offense just wasn't very good other than eventually as a running team. Despite an injury riddled OL, most of that falls on TJ's deficiencies. IIRC, the injuries that knocked him out for good were two concussions. The only one I remember was him laying out for a pass and his head whiplashing into the ground. Not sure if the massive dreds affect the helmet performance, but it was a good enough hit that I think most players would be concussed by it so I'm not sure how they'd fit into the "injury prone" label. Then he had both shoulders operated on in the offseason in procedures that are supposed to be basically 100% recovery. I have to wait and see how Flynn reads the field and spreads it out, but if h locks onto Rice like TJ did, then the D can tee off on him and hurt his numbers. But basically, Flynn can't do worse than TJ. Same goes for Wilson (who I get all salivary about thinking about him bootlegging it out with pinpoint accuracy to a streaking Rice).Obviously a risk, but the Hawks have a solid running game that should keep Ds honest, an upgrade at QB no matter if it's Flynn or WIlson, a solid slot WR to keep track of and possibly another super fast WR on the other side depending on who makes the cut. So i think he should surpass Baldwin's numbers from last year, approach 1000 yards and 6-8 TDs. Guaranteed if Rice is healthy, Carroll will use the hell out of him. Petey loves to go deep and BeastMode ought to be able to playaction the hell out of the Ds.Depending on his style choices though, you might subtract 10-15% off the totals for the shame of being out there in those godawful jerseys (though to be fair, I haven't seen them in action yet, but it's gonna take a LONG time to get used to them). Sounds like most players of the flashy persuasion seem to really like them so maybe he will. This is a fairly objective Seahawk fan opinion.

 

[FF Ninja]

I like his value. Guy is being drafted as a bottom-end WR3 right now, but he's going to have at least a decent QB throwing him the ball and I think he's working with the same OC that made him the 8th ranked WR in 2009. He has definitely been beaten up during his career. His shoulders were totally jacked up last season. He had 360 degree labrum tears on both of them. He had surgery on them this offseason and should be good to go for 2012. While double shoulder surgery isn't good news, at least he's not dealing with an injury that could cost him a step or two. Speaking of his legs, he did have hip surgery back in 2010, I think. I don't know much about that, but I didn't hear anything about it last year so I'm assuming the only thing we really need to worry about is the shoulder(s).

Given that he'll turn 26 right before the season, I don't think we should be writing him off. I'd easily trade a late 1st round dynasty pick for him and I think he's good value at WR36 in redraft. He's already proven that he can be a top flight WR when healthy and with a good QB, but he does have an inherent injury risk. Guys you're drafting late in the first round have plenty of risks, too. Hell, WRs drafted in the top 3 have plenty of risk and they likely won't produce for at least a year. Rice could feasibly return to WR1 status this year. A lot of that rests on Flynn and the game plan, but he finished WR8 on just 122 targets in 2009. I don't expect anything like that, but I'd be willing to bet that he finishes above WR24 if he plays 16 games. I imagine Seattle will throw the ball 500-550 times with 100 going to the RBs, maybe 100-150 to the TEs, leaving probably 250-300 targets for the WRs. I like him for at least 120 targets. A catch rate of 60% = 72 rec, 15 ypr so 1080 yds and maybe 5-9 TD.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Was that all a product of the Hall of Famer?Was he a victim of Tavaris Jackson last year?

He played injured ALL last year. Remember though....he's on a run first team.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I've always been a believer in his talent, and sometimes injuries are just bad luck. Not sure if he's truly super-brittle or just unlucky, but IMO it's worth a roll of the dice at his current price tag. If he's healthy, I think he can be a dominant downfield WR; his length, body control, and catch radius are outstanding. Favre was just chucking the ball up to him in single coverage a few years back and a healthy Rice can go and get it. His ability to beat man coverage deep combined with the Seahawks' strong ground game makes him a potential demon on play action. Also, if he's healthy, I think he's the clear #1 target in the passing game for Seattle, and Flynn should be at least a slight upgrade. Lot of "ifs" there, but I don't see a ton of WR3/4s out there with as much upside.

 

[eefflrat]

I've always been a believer in his talent, and sometimes injuries are just bad luck. Not sure if he's truly super-brittle or just unlucky, but IMO it's worth a roll of the dice at his current price tag. If he's healthy, I think he can be a dominant downfield WR; his length, body control, and catch radius are outstanding. Favre was just chucking the ball up to him in single coverage a few years back and a healthy Rice can go and get it. His ability to beat man coverage deep combined with the Seahawks' strong ground game makes him a potential demon on play action. Also, if he's healthy, I think he's the clear #1 target in the passing game for Seattle, and Flynn should be at least a slight upgrade. Lot of "ifs" there, but I don't see a ton of WR3/4s out there with as much upside.

In a dynasty Salary I am very interested in Rice, and am considering a mike Bush and Collie for Rice straight up offer.The other guy has Forte, and he has more value to him,. I was holding out hope that Collie will be luck's best target, but I have a good feeling about rice this year

 

[az_prof]

I do not know the details of his shoulder surgeries, but they have me worried. I have had one shoulder reconstruction surgery, and while it is ok, I still feel unease about going up with my arms into the air where the shoulder would be vulnerable to re-injury. While it isn't as important as a knee to a WR, if you feel hesitation about moving your arms in any direction that will affect a WRs catching and his confidence. The fact that he had two makes me wonder if he doesn't have some kind of degenerative joint issue that could affect other joints.

 

[FF Ninja]

I'm sure there are a lot of different shoulder surgeries. I think his was for a torn labrum.

 

[JPeso]

The hip and concussion issues are more concerning than the labrum.

 

[Buck Stop]

His ovaries are much more concerning than anything else.

 

[mr roboto]

His ovaries are much more concerning than anything else.

It's hard hitting analysis like this that keeps me coming back to the SP. Believer in talent over situation in dynasty. So I would try to acquire him wherever an owner may be frustrated. Big value drop from the big year with the vikes. I like where Sea is going. Redraft, situation matters a bit more. If he's being drafted as a WR 3 then IMO that still represents good upside. A guy drafter at 25-35 in his position with top 10 potential is a nice find. Like Sweeney said, I don't think I would call the guy injury prone. Still has 5-7 prime years left and he has produced before.

 

[dickey moe]

A lot of guys got suckered in by him after the one great season with Favre. It's been all downhill and disappointment since.

 

[JPeso]

His ovaries are much more concerning than anything else.

It's hard hitting analysis like this that keeps me coming back to the SP.

It's just a shame there isn't a way to keep guys like him from creating another username.

 

[Buck Stop]

His ovaries are much more concerning than anything else.

It's hard hitting analysis like this that keeps me coming back to the SP.

It's just a shame there isn't a way to keep guys like him from creating another username.

Shouldn't you be drafting Eddie Royal in the early rounds of some startup?

 

[JPeso]

His ovaries are much more concerning than anything else.

It's hard hitting analysis like this that keeps me coming back to the SP.

It's just a shame there isn't a way to keep guys like him from creating another username.

Shouldn't you be drafting Eddie Royal in the early rounds of some startup?

What does Eddie Royal have to do with Sidney Rice? Do you really feel comfortable questioning someone's dynasty acumen that you PMed for assistance for years? I only drafted him "early" in one start-up, which was easily my worst start-up in memory (HyperActive 4, drafted he and Braylon at 2.12 and 3.1). I was lucky to have him early in most leagues, buying before his value increased. I bought him at high cost in two leagues: Roddy White + Matt Schaub for Aaron Rodgers + Eddie Royal (Field of Play 2), and then essentially Michael Crabtree for him in HyperActive (was the 1.1 or 1.2, can't recall). Royal would have been a 100-catch guy in Denver had #### not hit the fan, so I stand by where I took him. You like to blame others because you can say you asked for help and it was market perception. Any thoughts on Sidney Rice?

 

[Sabertooth]

Damaged goods. Only good as a "swing for the fences" type of guy now. Ideal WR4 or WR5.

 

[todisco1]

Damaged goods. Only good as a "swing for the fences" type of guy now. Ideal WR4 or WR5.

I pretty much agree with this. I wouldn't want to count on him as an every week starter, but he could be terrific depth/trade bait if he comes out healthy.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Damaged goods. Only good as a "swing for the fences" type of guy now. Ideal WR4 or WR5.

I don't disagree, but how many 25 year old WR's have a 1300 yard season under their resume and you can get that late?

 

[Sabertooth]

Damaged goods. Only good as a "swing for the fences" type of guy now. Ideal WR4 or WR5.

I don't disagree, but how many 25 year old WR's have a 1300 yard season under their resume and you can get that late?

I'm guessing 1. But he doesn't have the greatest QB in the history or football throwing the ball now. He may not even have the best quarterback on his own roster throwing him the ball. The Favre year is starting to look like an anamoly.

 

[todisco1]

Question for Seattle homers or those in the know; does Doug Baldwin have a shot at being the best WR on the team this year? His rookie numbers were pretty darn good and I'm hearing strong offseason chatter about him. What are the odds that he emerges as the best bet in ppr?

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

These are valid questions. Granted Seattle is a run-first team, but they will pass. Flynn may be a decent option at QB, and like they say, someone has to catch the ball. Will it be Rice? Baldwin? Tate? Rice has had health problems. Is he healthy now? If so, will the health problems return? I play in all ppr, and am eyeing Baldwin right now. I think it's too early to write off Rice. His price is low right now, so I think he is worth a flier as a WR #4/5. He may produce WR #2 numbers this year. It's certainly possible.

 

[Sabertooth]

These are valid questions. Granted Seattle is a run-first team, but they will pass. Flynn may be a decent option at QB, and like they say, someone has to catch the ball. Will it be Rice? Baldwin? Tate? Rice has had health problems. Is he healthy now? If so, will the health problems return? I play in all ppr, and am eyeing Baldwin right now. I think it's too early to write off Rice. His price is low right now, so I think he is worth a flier as a WR #4/5. He may produce WR #2 numbers this year. It's certainly possible.

Rice has had concussion issues along with health issues. He's had exactly one good year out of what, 4? I'm leery of such production. Steve Slaton had a great year too. I don't like him as a WR3 you need to count on. I do like him as about the 40th WR though as he represents serious upside.

 

[socrates]

Damaged goods. Only good as a "swing for the fences" type of guy now. Ideal WR4 or WR5.

I don't disagree, but how many 25 year old WR's have a 1300 yard season under their resume and you can get that late?

Steve Smith (StL) is comparable. I'm not sure either can return to their previous level, but they each have an opportunity to be the WR1 for their team.

 

[FF Ninja]

I guess we get to see what he's got tomorrow. At WR45, he is easily worth the gamble.

 

[plasticman]

His ovaries are much more concerning than anything else.

It's hard hitting analysis like this that keeps me coming back to the SP.

It's just a shame there isn't a way to keep guys like him from creating another username.

Shouldn't you be drafting Eddie Royal in the early rounds of some startup?

What does Eddie Royal have to do with Sidney Rice? Do you really feel comfortable questioning someone's dynasty acumen that you PMed for assistance for years? I only drafted him "early" in one start-up, which was easily my worst start-up in memory (HyperActive 4, drafted he and Braylon at 2.12 and 3.1). I was lucky to have him early in most leagues, buying before his value increased. I bought him at high cost in two leagues: Roddy White + Matt Schaub for Aaron Rodgers + Eddie Royal (Field of Play 2), and then essentially Michael Crabtree for him in HyperActive (was the 1.1 or 1.2, can't recall). Royal would have been a 100-catch guy in Denver had #### not hit the fan, so I stand by where I took him. You like to blame others because you can say you asked for help and it was market perception. Any thoughts on Sidney Rice?

 

[Grady Wilson]

His ovaries are much more concerning than anything else.

It's hard hitting analysis like this that keeps me coming back to the SP.

It's just a shame there isn't a way to keep guys like him from creating another username.

Shouldn't you be drafting Eddie Royal in the early rounds of some startup?

What does Eddie Royal have to do with Sidney Rice? Do you really feel comfortable questioning someone's dynasty acumen that you PMed for assistance for years? I only drafted him "early" in one start-up, which was easily my worst start-up in memory (HyperActive 4, drafted he and Braylon at 2.12 and 3.1). I was lucky to have him early in most leagues, buying before his value increased. I bought him at high cost in two leagues: Roddy White + Matt Schaub for Aaron Rodgers + Eddie Royal (Field of Play 2), and then essentially Michael Crabtree for him in HyperActive (was the 1.1 or 1.2, can't recall). Royal would have been a 100-catch guy in Denver had #### not hit the fan, so I stand by where I took him. You like to blame others because you can say you asked for help and it was market perception. Any thoughts on Sidney Rice?

Nice to see Buck Stop is winning friends and influencing people on this board as well. I thought his ridiculous antics was just limited to the FFA board. Guess the dude knows no boundaries....

 

[ShaHBucks]

Some guys just don't have NFL bodies; Malcom Floyd, Mario Manningham and now Sidney Rice. I see talent but it's only a matter of time before they break down. His other issue is indeed no Brett Favre. Great QB's always inflate Wr numbers. If you're betting on Rice, you're betting on Russell Wilson as well, which might not be a bad thing.

 

[FF Ninja]

From what I've seen, Rice looks good and he looks healthy. If only he had a QB. Supposedly they haven't really opened up the playbook, so I guess there is hope. I just don't have a lot of faith in Wilson this year.

 

[FF Ninja]

In the 31st ranked passing attack (199.3 ypg) Sidney Rice has quietly put up WR2 numbers - finishing week 13 as the 22nd ranked WR (FBG scoring), far exceeding his non-PPR ADP of WR43. Seattle is actually dead last in passing attempts. I think Rice makes for a nice buy in dynasty/keeper leagues.

Should Wilson progress in year 2, Rice's yardage could improve quite a bit. Rice (69), James Jones (69), and Jordy Nelson (68) are the only players in the top 25 with less than 83 targets.

 

[donkshow]

I wanted him for a sleeper this year but he went WAY too early. He's been solid and could be a good WR2 next year with Wilson improving.

 

[Hooper31]

Should Wilson progress in year 2, Rice's yardage could improve quite a bit.

I wouldn't count on it. Seattle is a running football team. If they are being successful its more likely that they are following the team's script for success.1. Stop the run on defense.2. Create third and long situations leading to sack/turnover situations.3. Slow the game down on offense and control the clock.4. Limit the plays/possessions for the other team.I'm not saying this is what will happen, but its the Carroll/Schneider plan. This is how they "want" to win. If you believe that the team is going to be more successful in the future I don't think it will lead to more fantasy points for Rice.

 

[FF Ninja]

Should Wilson progress in year 2, Rice's yardage could improve quite a bit.

I wouldn't count on it. Seattle is a running football team. If they are being successful its more likely that they are following the team's script for success.1. Stop the run on defense.2. Create third and long situations leading to sack/turnover situations.3. Slow the game down on offense and control the clock.4. Limit the plays/possessions for the other team.I'm not saying this is what will happen, but its the Carroll/Schneider plan. This is how they "want" to win. If you believe that the team is going to be more successful in the future I don't think it will lead to more fantasy points for Rice.

I totally agree that is their script for success. I don't expect them to change it. But that doesn't mean they can't get better at throwing the football when they choose to do so. And what are the chances they finish dead last in attempts again? All I'm saying is that the situation should improve for Rice in 2013 because it really can't get much worse. And as a Lynch owner, I'd love to see them become less predictable. The last four games have been against good defenses and Wilson has averaged no less than 7.2 ypa in each game and hasn't thrown an interception. Rice scored in the double digits once in the first 7 games and has hit that mark 5 out of the last 6 games. I feel like things are looking up for him. Not sure if he'll be able to replicate these TD numbers next year, though. He's got 7 of his team's 19 receiving TDs.

 

[Hooper31]

Should Wilson progress in year 2, Rice's yardage could improve quite a bit.

I wouldn't count on it. Seattle is a running football team. If they are being successful its more likely that they are following the team's script for success.1. Stop the run on defense.2. Create third and long situations leading to sack/turnover situations.3. Slow the game down on offense and control the clock.4. Limit the plays/possessions for the other team.I'm not saying this is what will happen, but its the Carroll/Schneider plan. This is how they "want" to win. If you believe that the team is going to be more successful in the future I don't think it will lead to more fantasy points for Rice.

I totally agree that is their script for success. I don't expect them to change it. But that doesn't mean they can't get better at throwing the football when they choose to do so. And what are the chances they finish dead last in attempts again? All I'm saying is that the situation should improve for Rice in 2013 because it really can't get much worse. And as a Lynch owner, I'd love to see them become less predictable. The last four games have been against good defenses and Wilson has averaged no less than 7.2 ypa in each game and hasn't thrown an interception. Rice scored in the double digits once in the first 7 games and has hit that mark 5 out of the last 6 games. I feel like things are looking up for him. Not sure if he'll be able to replicate these TD numbers next year, though. He's got 7 of his team's 19 receiving TDs.

You make a good point. Things HAVE gotten better for Rice as Wilson has improved, and I don't see him quickly regressing (well, I hope that doesn't happen).Another thought. I believe Seattle would like to have a better receiving option at TE in their offense. Miller gets paid a ton because he's a great blocking TE and that's a crucial element to this offense being successful. They did bring in Winslow during the off season, but he was let go because he wouldn't take a pay cut. They also brought in Moore, but he's been a disappointment in games. I will be surprised if the don't put forth a concerted effort into improving their receiving options at TE. Is McCoy that guy already? I have my doubts there. I think McCoy is more like Miller and will be relied upon to be another large blocking TE. I think they will look to add someone more like a D. Keller or A. Hernandez.

 

[FF Ninja]

Actually, I believe Zach Miller is more known for his receiving skills than his blocking. He may be good at blocking as well, but I recall there being some excitement for his landing spot during his free agency since he put up solid numbers in the wasteland that was Oakland (top 12 TE his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th years in the league). However, this team certainly has the flexibility to upgrade any position they choose as I don't perceive them to have any huge holes that should dictate their draft/free agency plans. It would not surprise me any more if they upgraded TE than if they upgraded any other position.

 

[mad sweeney]

Actually, I believe Zach Miller is more known for his receiving skills than his blocking. He may be good at blocking as well, but I recall there being some excitement for his landing spot during his free agency since he put up solid numbers in the wasteland that was Oakland (top 12 TE his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th years in the league). However, this team certainly has the flexibility to upgrade any position they choose as I don't perceive them to have any huge holes that should dictate their draft/free agency plans. It would not surprise me any more if they upgraded TE than if they upgraded any other position.

I don't know if it will dictate it, but there is a massive need for a consistent, playmaking WR. Tate is still too undisciplined and Rice can get swallowed up at times. I think he'd explode if there was another guy out there that the D had to focus on. An OL upgrade would help a lot too. Carpenter and Moffit seem to be too injury prone and the RT is a flag drawing disaster half the time. Off the top of my head, those are two positions I'd rather spend 4 total picks on before looking at upgrading TE. Make the OL better and the TE will free up a lot.

 

[FF Ninja]

I don't know if it will dictate it, but there is a massive need for a consistent, playmaking WR. Tate is still too undisciplined and Rice can get swallowed up at times. I think he'd explode if there was another guy out there that the D had to focus on. An OL upgrade would help a lot too. Carpenter and Moffit seem to be too injury prone and the RT is a flag drawing disaster half the time. Off the top of my head, those are two positions I'd rather spend 4 total picks on before looking at upgrading TE. Make the OL better and the TE will free up a lot.

I was thinking OL possibly, but they felt confident enough to cut Gallery and Lynch has been doing pretty well against what seems like 8 in the box every single time, so I figured the line must be in decent shape. But I do agree that would be a wise place to invest in the draft. Can't even ever have too good of an o-line.I can see where an upgrade to Tate makes sense upon first glance, but when you throw the ball less than 30 times a game, there is no way you are going to compete for a big name WR on the open market. You just won't get the same return on your investment as other teams would (For instance, Luck has thrown the ball 503 times to Wilson's 317). I think they are much more likely to draft a guy to groom than spend any significant money in FA on the WR position.

Edit: caught a typo -> ever, not even

 

[Hooper31]

Carpenter and Moffit seem to be too injury prone and the RT is a flag drawing disaster half the time.

Was there any point in the off season where you even considered this thought....."Thank goodness for Paul McQuistan".

 

[mad sweeney]

I don't know if it will dictate it, but there is a massive need for a consistent, playmaking WR. Tate is still too undisciplined and Rice can get swallowed up at times. I think he'd explode if there was another guy out there that the D had to focus on. An OL upgrade would help a lot too. Carpenter and Moffit seem to be too injury prone and the RT is a flag drawing disaster half the time. Off the top of my head, those are two positions I'd rather spend 4 total picks on before looking at upgrading TE. Make the OL better and the TE will free up a lot.

I was thinking OL possibly, but they felt confident enough to cut Gallery and Lynch has been doing pretty well against what seems like 8 in the box every single time, so I figured the line must be in decent shape. But I do agree that would be a wise place to invest in the draft. Can't even have too good of an o-line.I can see where an upgrade to Tate makes sense upon first glance, but when you throw the ball less than 30 times a game, there is no way you are going to compete for a big name WR on the open market. You just won't get the same return on your investment as other teams would (For instance, Luck has thrown the ball 503 times to Wilson's 317). I think they are much more likely to draft a guy to groom than spend any significant money in FA on the WR position.

That's my thought as well. That should be #1 draft priority, however it's not enough of a priority to necessarily reach. The boys have shown a high aptitude for successful drafts, so I expect them to handle it well.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Should Wilson progress in year 2, Rice's yardage could improve quite a bit.

I wouldn't count on it. Seattle is a running football team. If they are being successful its more likely that they are following the team's script for success.

1. Stop the run on defense.

2. Create third and long situations leading to sack/turnover situations.

3. Slow the game down on offense and control the clock.

4. Limit the plays/possessions for the other team.

I'm not saying this is what will happen, but its the Carroll/Schneider plan. This is how they "want" to win. If you believe that the team is going to be more successful in the future I don't think it will lead to more fantasy points for Rice.

I'm pretty sure Lynch will be suspended for atleast half of 2013 due to his DUI last July and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets in trouble again. So they might be counting on Wilson a little more next yr.Also, Rice is scheduled to make 8.5 next yr, any chance they cut him?

 

[cacksman]

Should Wilson progress in year 2, Rice's yardage could improve quite a bit.

I wouldn't count on it. Seattle is a running football team. If they are being successful its more likely that they are following the team's script for success.

1. Stop the run on defense.

2. Create third and long situations leading to sack/turnover situations.

3. Slow the game down on offense and control the clock.

4. Limit the plays/possessions for the other team.

I'm not saying this is what will happen, but its the Carroll/Schneider plan. This is how they "want" to win. If you believe that the team is going to be more successful in the future I don't think it will lead to more fantasy points for Rice.

I'm pretty sure Lynch will be suspended for atleast half of 2013 due to his DUI last July and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets in trouble again. So they might be counting on Wilson a little more next yr.Also, Rice is scheduled to make 8.5 next yr, any chance they cut him?

Way to pull that one out of your ###.

 

[Hooper31]

Should Wilson progress in year 2, Rice's yardage could improve quite a bit.

I wouldn't count on it. Seattle is a running football team. If they are being successful its more likely that they are following the team's script for success.

1. Stop the run on defense.

2. Create third and long situations leading to sack/turnover situations.

3. Slow the game down on offense and control the clock.

4. Limit the plays/possessions for the other team.

I'm not saying this is what will happen, but its the Carroll/Schneider plan. This is how they "want" to win. If you believe that the team is going to be more successful in the future I don't think it will lead to more fantasy points for Rice.

I'm pretty sure Lynch will be suspended for atleast half of 2013 due to his DUI last July and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets in trouble again. So they might be counting on Wilson a little more next yr.Also, Rice is scheduled to make 8.5 next yr, any chance they cut him?

Even if Lynch were to not be available, next RB would step forward. Likely Turbin. The Seattle administration isn't going to change their overall philosophy because one player misses part of a season. Each portion of the roster is built to complement the other portions. Seattle isn't going to turn into a passing team any time soon.

 

[Inspiration]

Should Wilson progress in year 2, Rice's yardage could improve quite a bit.

I wouldn't count on it. Seattle is a running football team. If they are being successful its more likely that they are following the team's script for success.

1. Stop the run on defense.

2. Create third and long situations leading to sack/turnover situations.

3. Slow the game down on offense and control the clock.

4. Limit the plays/possessions for the other team.

I'm not saying this is what will happen, but its the Carroll/Schneider plan. This is how they "want" to win. If you believe that the team is going to be more successful in the future I don't think it will lead to more fantasy points for Rice.

I'm pretty sure Lynch will be suspended for atleast half of 2013 due to his DUI last July and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets in trouble again. So they might be counting on Wilson a little more next yr.Also, Rice is scheduled to make 8.5 next yr, any chance they cut him?

Even if Lynch were to not be available, next RB would step forward. Likely Turbin. The Seattle administration isn't going to change their overall philosophy because one player misses part of a season. Each portion of the roster is built to complement the other portions. Seattle isn't going to turn into a passing team any time soon.

The Seattle administration emphasizes the run game because that's what their personnel dictates. If the strength of their personnel changes, then their overall strategy will too. That's the way any well-run organization (football or otherwise) operates.

 

[bigdaddydave]

I have to admit, I have disliked Sidney Rice for awhile now, but this season he has shown true heart and been a great addition to the team.

The surgery that he had to repair his shoulders has obviously worked -- look at the hits he is taking and coming back from. He has been absolutely hammered the last two games by defensive players, hits that I thought were going to be season ending, and yet he still comes back and plays.

I'm not sure if he's worth what we payed, but then again, Seattle hasn't really drafted any talent at the WR position for awhile.

 

[mad sweeney]

I have to admit, I have disliked Sidney Rice for awhile now, but this season he has shown true heart and been a great addition to the team.The surgery that he had to repair his shoulders has obviously worked -- look at the hits he is taking and coming back from. He has been absolutely hammered the last two games by defensive players, hits that I thought were going to be season ending, and yet he still comes back and plays.I'm not sure if he's worth what we payed, but then again, Seattle hasn't really drafted any talent at the WR position for awhile.

As long as his salary isn't keeping the team from gaining or retaining the services of others then I really don't care if someone is making more than we perceive as his value. I don't keep up on college to know who the elite WRs coming into the league are next year but it won't make much sense to replace Rice with a rookie just because he's cheaper. I think the passing game is limited by a lack of talent opposite Rice. Tate is scoring and making some plays but isn't an overall very good WR imo. Too inconsistent, too mentally inferior and/or disciplined, very easily replaced. WR should be the main group (along with OL) slated for upgrades in the offseason as it will only make Wilson more Dangerruss and open up the running game even more. But without the only real WR threat also out there, it'll be at best a side step to salary cap cut Rice and replace him with a rookie.