Sidney Rice (1 Viewer)

[Freedonia]

With Russell Wilson wining the starting job, and Rice looking healthy what are people thinking of him this year. I think he could be a pretty decent WR2 this year. Am I crazy? I had him on my team back in 2009 when he was WR 7 after he took over as starter in week 3 and he help me win a championship so I may not be to objective, but at his current ADP he will end up on everyone of my teams.

 

[Johnny Blood]

I want him on my team whenever he has Brett Favre playing out of his mind. Otherwise he's worth a scrub round pick where I'd rather pick someone I think might explode.

 

[Jewell]

I think he could be a pretty decent WR2 this year. Am I crazy?

Yes.

 

[Freedonia]

Dang. that is not what I wanted to hear, but it is what I expected to hear. I can't let drafting that guy go. Him and Rickey Dudley. Not that anyone remembers him anymore.

 

[doowain]

No you are not crazy. Injury bug is the only thing holding Rice back. Rice has top level talent. He just can't stay on the field.

He made Favre that year more than Favre made him. A good number of his balls were Favre just chucking it downfield and Sid going to get it amongst two defenders, a la AJ Green.

 

[donkshow]

I'm looking at him for WR3/Flex.

 

[T.Rex]

Anyone who says he can't be a great WR2 if healthy is a guppy and it seem the shark pool has been filled with them.

 

[Jewell]

Anyone who says he can't be a great WR2 if healthy is a guppy and it seem the shark pool has been filled with them.

Therein lies the issue.Can Rice be a great WR2 if healthy? Possibly, perhaps even likely.

Would I count on Rice as a WR2 given his history of health concerns? No, I wouldn't.

 

[JPeso]

Anyone who says he can't be a great WR2 if healthy is a guppy and it seem the shark pool has been filled with them.

Therein lies the issue.Can Rice be a great WR2 if healthy? Possibly, perhaps even likely.

Would I count on Rice as a WR2 given his history of health concerns? No, I wouldn't.

You're right, but his current ADP is quite discounted.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Anyone who says he can't be a great WR2 if healthy is a guppy and it seem the shark pool has been filled with them.

Therein lies the issue.Can Rice be a great WR2 if healthy? Possibly, perhaps even likely.

Would I count on Rice as a WR2 given his history of health concerns? No, I wouldn't.

You're right, but his current ADP is quite discounted.

The bolded is all that matters. He is being drafted as a low WR4 right now. If healthy, he destroys that. If you are worried about injury, then you won't draft him anyways and this doesn't matter. Nobody will count on Rice to be a WR2, but he isn't going to be drafted as a WR2 so that doesn't matter. But from a risk/reward standpoint, how many other WRs in the range of Rice's current ADP (approximately WR45) have WR2 upside? I really can't think of any off the top of my head.

 

[Jestefarean]

Anyone who says he can't be a great WR2 if healthy is a guppy and it seem the shark pool has been filled with them.

Therein lies the issue.Can Rice be a great WR2 if healthy? Possibly, perhaps even likely.

Would I count on Rice as a WR2 given his history of health concerns? No, I wouldn't.

You're right, but his current ADP is quite discounted.

The bolded is all that matters. He is being drafted as a low WR4 right now. If healthy, he destroys that. If you are worried about injury, then you won't draft him anyways and this doesn't matter. Nobody will count on Rice to be a WR2, but he isn't going to be drafted as a WR2 so that doesn't matter. But from a risk/reward standpoint, how many other WRs in the range of Rice's current ADP (approximately WR45) have WR2 upside? I really can't think of any off the top of my head.

Well said.

 

[TheWick]

I've been trying to ditch him all offseason in Dynasty leagues. I just acquired Davone Bess and a 2nd rounder for him and am quite happy about it. You just can't trust the dude.

 

[JPeso]

I've been trying to ditch him all offseason in Dynasty leagues. I just acquired Davone Bess and a 2nd rounder for him and am quite happy about it. You just can't trust the dude.

I personally think you panicked. I would have rather held and got, at worst, a late 1st for this guy after he had three straight hot weeks, or even a player through 6 weeks who might be quiet (see Randle). Davone Bess is a drop and Sid is certainly worth more than a 2nd rounder.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Thoughts after week 1?

He had a nice grab on the TD catch and was targeted heavily in the red zone. Looked healthy and played well on the road against a top corner in Patrick Patterson. Not too shabby.

 

[zamboni]

Thoughts after week 1? He had a nice grab on the TD catch and was targeted heavily in the red zone. Looked healthy and played well on the road against a top corner in Patrick Patterson. Not too shabby.

Talent has never been the question, just health.

 

[Shutout]

I've been trying to ditch him all offseason in Dynasty leagues. I just acquired Davone Bess and a 2nd rounder for him and am quite happy about it. You just can't trust the dude.

I personally think you panicked. I would have rather held and got, at worst, a late 1st for this guy after he had three straight hot weeks, or even a player through 6 weeks who might be quiet (see Randle). Davone Bess is a drop and Sid is certainly worth more than a 2nd rounder.

The other side of that possibility, however, is that he gets banged up in the first month and then, after yet another injury, you can't cut him and you can't trade him. I think people that own Sid realize much more of the detail than people that don't. People that don't own him will generally say "yeah, he's hurt a lot". People that own him know all about the concussions and the general lack of him staying on the field for more than a month at a time. I don't like to be one of those people that say "if you take this away, then this" but after 5 years in the league, sometimes when you takes something away, its because that something is the outlier and not just the stat that makes your point look better. In Sid's case, its starting to look like the outlier.He has played in 15 games in the last two years so he's a half-time guy. If you take away that one year in 2009, he has never posted 500 yards or more than 4 TDs in a season. Most of that is these nagging things that keep himd down/out. Like others said, its never the talent, but when you look at it as a whole, 80% of his career has shown him to be a bottom-line "not very good" player (tossing all the details aside on health and playing and just looking at the bottom line..the points he gets an owner on a given year). I agree that he COULD be worth much more but I'm inclined to sell him if I were an owner. Just don't trust the long-term.

 

[donkshow]

I've been trying to ditch him all offseason in Dynasty leagues. I just acquired Davone Bess and a 2nd rounder for him and am quite happy about it. You just can't trust the dude.

I personally think you panicked. I would have rather held and got, at worst, a late 1st for this guy after he had three straight hot weeks, or even a player through 6 weeks who might be quiet (see Randle). Davone Bess is a drop and Sid is certainly worth more than a 2nd rounder.

The other side of that possibility, however, is that he gets banged up in the first month and then, after yet another injury, you can't cut him and you can't trade him. I think people that own Sid realize much more of the detail than people that don't. People that don't own him will generally say "yeah, he's hurt a lot". People that own him know all about the concussions and the general lack of him staying on the field for more than a month at a time. I don't like to be one of those people that say "if you take this away, then this" but after 5 years in the league, sometimes when you takes something away, its because that something is the outlier and not just the stat that makes your point look better. In Sid's case, its starting to look like the outlier.He has played in 15 games in the last two years so he's a half-time guy. If you take away that one year in 2009, he has never posted 500 yards or more than 4 TDs in a season. Most of that is these nagging things that keep himd down/out. Like others said, its never the talent, but when you look at it as a whole, 80% of his career has shown him to be a bottom-line "not very good" player (tossing all the details aside on health and playing and just looking at the bottom line..the points he gets an owner on a given year). I agree that he COULD be worth much more but I'm inclined to sell him if I were an owner. Just don't trust the long-term.

 

[JPeso]

I've been trying to ditch him all offseason in Dynasty leagues. I just acquired Davone Bess and a 2nd rounder for him and am quite happy about it. You just can't trust the dude.

I personally think you panicked. I would have rather held and got, at worst, a late 1st for this guy after he had three straight hot weeks, or even a player through 6 weeks who might be quiet (see Randle). Davone Bess is a drop and Sid is certainly worth more than a 2nd rounder.

The other side of that possibility, however, is that he gets banged up in the first month and then, after yet another injury, you can't cut him and you can't trade him. I think people that own Sid realize much more of the detail than people that don't. People that don't own him will generally say "yeah, he's hurt a lot". People that own him know all about the concussions and the general lack of him staying on the field for more than a month at a time. I don't like to be one of those people that say "if you take this away, then this" but after 5 years in the league, sometimes when you takes something away, its because that something is the outlier and not just the stat that makes your point look better. In Sid's case, its starting to look like the outlier.He has played in 15 games in the last two years so he's a half-time guy. If you take away that one year in 2009, he has never posted 500 yards or more than 4 TDs in a season. Most of that is these nagging things that keep himd down/out. Like others said, its never the talent, but when you look at it as a whole, 80% of his career has shown him to be a bottom-line "not very good" player (tossing all the details aside on health and playing and just looking at the bottom line..the points he gets an owner on a given year). I agree that he COULD be worth much more but I'm inclined to sell him if I were an owner. Just don't trust the long-term.

He's already worth more if you went to the market today and cashed in your ticket. It's been one week. Doesn't matter if you don't trust him, selling him for a dynasty drop and a unknown 2nd isn't a great bet to be making.

 

[Ray_T]

I've been trying to ditch him all offseason in Dynasty leagues. I just acquired Davone Bess and a 2nd rounder for him and am quite happy about it. You just can't trust the dude.

I can relate, but my thought is that somewhere along the way he will have another huge year. in a keeper/dynasty there is no point in trading him now when he has little to no value.People have short memories. You want him to blow up for a couple of games before you even consider trading him. At that point there is a decent chance someone will forget he is injury prone and will only see the potential and the production on the field.in a redraft league the situation is substantially different as you have to play for the here & now and sometimes current needs outweigh the desire to wait for him to perform.

 

[Shutout]

I've been trying to ditch him all offseason in Dynasty leagues. I just acquired Davone Bess and a 2nd rounder for him and am quite happy about it. You just can't trust the dude.

I personally think you panicked. I would have rather held and got, at worst, a late 1st for this guy after he had three straight hot weeks, or even a player through 6 weeks who might be quiet (see Randle). Davone Bess is a drop and Sid is certainly worth more than a 2nd rounder.

The other side of that possibility, however, is that he gets banged up in the first month and then, after yet another injury, you can't cut him and you can't trade him. I think people that own Sid realize much more of the detail than people that don't. People that don't own him will generally say "yeah, he's hurt a lot". People that own him know all about the concussions and the general lack of him staying on the field for more than a month at a time. I don't like to be one of those people that say "if you take this away, then this" but after 5 years in the league, sometimes when you takes something away, its because that something is the outlier and not just the stat that makes your point look better. In Sid's case, its starting to look like the outlier.

He has played in 15 games in the last two years so he's a half-time guy. If you take away that one year in 2009, he has never posted 500 yards or more than 4 TDs in a season. Most of that is these nagging things that keep himd down/out.

Like others said, its never the talent, but when you look at it as a whole, 80% of his career has shown him to be a bottom-line "not very good" player (tossing all the details aside on health and playing and just looking at the bottom line..the points he gets an owner on a given year).

I agree that he COULD be worth much more but I'm inclined to sell him if I were an owner. Just don't trust the long-term.

He's already worth more if you went to the market today and cashed in your ticket. It's been one week. Doesn't matter if you don't trust him, selling him for a dynasty drop and a unknown 2nd isn't a great bet to be making.

I guess its all in perspective. It DOES sound like a low sell but IMO its hard to criticse his owners because it seems like its always a ticking timebomb. Yeah, If I owned him (I don't), I might be able to "cash in my ticket" today..right now. But I would be holding my breath each and every day because he seems to have a lot of issues...whether its in practice or that dreaded yellow ticker that scrolls on the screen saying "Sidney Rice: Left game <insert injury>. Questionable to return. I really wouldn't fault either side on this issue but I'm pretty sure in any typical league there are about half of the people that see it on the one side and half on the other.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

He missed practice with a knee injury today

 

[FF Ninja]

other Sidney Rice thread

Looking at his career and eliminating his year with Favre is a weak case. The guy has taken the normal route that many WRs take: limited use first two years, breakout third year. His fourth year he had a serious hip injury that kept him out until week 11. The next year he was injured again and saddled with a crapping passing attack. I think he had a concussion and two totally torn rotator cuffs or labrums or something like that. Not much to it. If the guy had gotten 90-100 targets his first two years and sucked then saying 1 out of 5 seasons = outlier. But he's only been a starter for 3 years. 2 of them he's been injured. The book is not written on the guy. He doesn't tear his ACL every other year or suffer high ankle sprains repeatedly. He's had strange injuries. I think he's a clear buy right now. Am I a biased owner? No, but I do have him as a 5th WR in one or two redrafts. I really like the guys ahead of him so this isn't a bias thing. I just really believe he's an above average WR1 in the NFL, which should translate to a fantasy WR2 if Seattle throws the ball more than 500 times.

 

[TheWick]

I've been trying to ditch him all offseason in Dynasty leagues. I just acquired Davone Bess and a 2nd rounder for him and am quite happy about it. You just can't trust the dude.

I personally think you panicked. I would have rather held and got, at worst, a late 1st for this guy after he had three straight hot weeks, or even a player through 6 weeks who might be quiet (see Randle). Davone Bess is a drop and Sid is certainly worth more than a 2nd rounder.

The other side of that possibility, however, is that he gets banged up in the first month and then, after yet another injury, you can't cut him and you can't trade him. I think people that own Sid realize much more of the detail than people that don't. People that don't own him will generally say "yeah, he's hurt a lot". People that own him know all about the concussions and the general lack of him staying on the field for more than a month at a time. I don't like to be one of those people that say "if you take this away, then this" but after 5 years in the league, sometimes when you takes something away, its because that something is the outlier and not just the stat that makes your point look better. In Sid's case, its starting to look like the outlier.

He has played in 15 games in the last two years so he's a half-time guy. If you take away that one year in 2009, he has never posted 500 yards or more than 4 TDs in a season. Most of that is these nagging things that keep himd down/out.

Like others said, its never the talent, but when you look at it as a whole, 80% of his career has shown him to be a bottom-line "not very good" player (tossing all the details aside on health and playing and just looking at the bottom line..the points he gets an owner on a given year).

I agree that he COULD be worth much more but I'm inclined to sell him if I were an owner. Just don't trust the long-term.

He's already worth more if you went to the market today and cashed in your ticket. It's been one week. Doesn't matter if you don't trust him, selling him for a dynasty drop and a unknown 2nd isn't a great bet to be making.

I guess its all in perspective. It DOES sound like a low sell but IMO its hard to criticse his owners because it seems like its always a ticking timebomb. Yeah, If I owned him (I don't), I might be able to "cash in my ticket" today..right now. But I would be holding my breath each and every day because he seems to have a lot of issues...whether its in practice or that dreaded yellow ticker that scrolls on the screen saying "Sidney Rice: Left game <insert injury>. Questionable to return. I really wouldn't fault either side on this issue but I'm pretty sure in any typical league there are about half of the people that see it on the one side and half on the other.

Update I'm starting Bess this week and Sidney probably won't play.Bess 6 for 60...I'll take that.

 

[zamboni]

He missed practice with a knee injury today

And here we go again with him.His nickname should be "Minute" Rice, as his playing time is measured in minutes, not games.

 

[Sabertooth]

Just dumped Rice for Ogletree. on that move, but we'll see what happens. I could very easily regret it.

 

[Quibbler]

Just dumped Rice for Ogletree. on that move, but we'll see what happens. I could very easily regret it.

Someone in one my leagues did that too. I'm putting in a claim for him.

 

[damageinc]

Because of his past knee issues I think you will see Rice take off every Wed/thur for the knee. Probably get little practice to keep him healthy. Just something that owners will have to get used to. Hes a WR2 if healthy. the talent is there, its just health.

Seattle Seahawks wide receiver Sidney Rice missed Wednesday's practice with an apparent knee injury, according to Rotoworld.com.

The knee, which has been a concern since Rice's rookie year in Minnesota, isn't known to be a significant ailment. The 6'4 former South Carolina Gamecock had a strong performance in Week 1 against the Arizona Cardinals, totaling four catches for 36 yards and a touchdown.

Rice will be an important component to the development of rookie quarterback Russell Wilson, giving him a big, veteran target downfield. He's battled through a litany of injuries recently, including shoulder surgeries and multiple concussions. He was given a clean bill of health heading into Week 1 and did not appear to suffer any injury during the game against the Cardinals.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

Just offered Rice for J. Rodgers the RB.

 

[Sir Psycho]

I might start Denarius Moore over him.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Missed practice again today too

 

[shadyridr]

Just dumped Rice for Ogletree. on that move, but we'll see what happens. I could very easily regret it.

Just dumped Rice for Ogletree. on that move, but we'll see what happens. I could very easily regret it.

Someone in one my leagues did that too. I'm putting in a claim for him.

Just offered Rice for J. Rodgers the RB.

I might start Denarius Moore over him.

THANKS FOR THE INFO GUYS! I CAN NOW SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING THAT!

 

[T.Rex]

Rice will play this weekend and crush Bess stat line real easy