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So a child molester moved into my neighborhood... (1 Viewer)

Clifford

Clifford

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For real. Got the email from whatever service notifies residents of a sex offender moving into the neighborhood. Not far off from where I live, just a few blocks away.

Dude is 41 and eas convicted of attempted sodomy of a 7-year old girl. My neighborhood is crawling with young kids, most aged below 10.

Don't know if he is renting or bought the house. Don't know what our options are, or if there are any, to get this guy out of our neighborhood. In terms of how I view these things, I think these people are mentally sick and are not going to be cured by stints in jail no matter how long. I think once someone is a pedophile they will always be a threat to kids and should be permanently removed from the rest of the population.

Not happy about this. Anyone dealt with this before?

ETA: Apparently he moved in with his mother who owns a house here. Would appreciate any advice for anyone who has dealt with this.

 
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No. This is not a fishing trip or a joke. I have checked the local locator website and he is indeed less than half a mile away.

 
I've never dealt with this personally in my neighborhood, but odds are this guy is likely on some pretty intensive probation, possibly monitoring, etc., so take some solace in that. You can check your state's specific version of Megan's Law and consult with an attorney in your jurisdiction, but offhand I'm not aware of any direct remedies to you.

My advice would probably be more along the lines of calming down and not becoming this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Marshall_(murderer)

 
lol....you have one child molester moving in? Go on one of those family watchdog sites and type in any urban area in America. You will see thousands of red dots all over the place!!! You only have to deal with one, so your task is pretty simple. Alert your kids to this guy's presence, tell them to be on the lookout for any funny business. If you really have balls, you can go over to the guy's place and have a preemptive discussion. That might be a risk though because if you somehow are the straw that breaks the monkey's back, then your kids might be his final target. I would play it safe and just coach up your kids to be on red alert.

 
meatwad1 said:
lol....you have one child molester moving in? Go on one of those family watchdog sites and type in any urban area in America. You will see thousands of red dots all over the place!!! You only have to deal with one, so your task is pretty simple. Alert your kids to this guy's presence, tell them to be on the lookout for any funny business. If you really have balls, you can go over to the guy's place and have a preemptive discussion. That might be a risk though because if you somehow are the straw that breaks the monkey's back, then your kids might be his final target. I would play it safe and just coach up your kids to be on red alert.
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This is a terrible idea.

 
Kids if you want some fun
Mr. LaPage is your man
He's always laughing, having fun
Showing his films in the den
Come on, come on
Soon you will be eighteen
I think you know what I mean
Don't tell your mama
Your daddy or mama
They'll never know where you been

[Chorus:]
Everyone's gone to the movies
Now we're alone at last

Listen to what I say
He wants to show you the way
Right down the hallway with open arms
To teach you a new game to play
Come on, come on
Soon it will be too late
Bobbing for apples can wait
We know you're used to sixteen or more
Sorry we only have eight

[Chorus]

Kids if you want some fun
See what you never have seen
Take off your cheaters and sit right down
Start the projection machine

[Chorus]

 
My brother went through a similar situation other than the offender was released from prison and moved back into his house which abuts my brother's property.

He had a very tough time with it especially since the local police force told my brother he could be charged for harrassment if he organized a neighborhood meeting to inform people.

He ended up talking to the parole officer and getting some ideas from him. The offender did venture onto my brother's property while the kids were outside playing on a trampoline to return a shoe that his dog had taken. IMO, this was a clear attempt to groom/guage the reply of the family especially since the offender chose the exact moment that my brother went inside to approach the kids. Very scary.

He moved out about a year ago but it did cause my brother significant heartache. My bro's FIL closely resembles the offender so my bro had to tell him he couldn't walk around the neighborhood alone because people would likely mistake him for the offender.

 
Clifford said:
No. This is not a fishing trip or a joke. I have checked the local locator website and he is indeed less than half a mile away.
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Half a mile away isn't a big deal IMO. I'd be more worried about the pedophiles who live closer that you don't know about. If you live in any kind of densely populated area, there are likely several.

 
I actually remember that thread. I have made some inquiries into the next neighborhood council meeting, but that's really worrying to hear that could be harassment. My wife posted his photo on to our neighborhood facebook group. Should I get her to delete the post? Is that harassment?

Have zero plans to approach this guy. Sounds like even getting together with other residents to discuss this could get me in trouble (pretty messed up IMO).

 
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Clifford said:
I actually remember that thread. I have made some inquiries into the next neighborhood council meeting, but that's really worrying to hear that could be harassment. My wife posted his photo on to our neighborhood facebook group. Should I get her to delete the post? Is that harassment?

Have zero plans to approach this guy. Sounds like even getting together with other residents to discuss this could get me in trouble (pretty messed up IMO).
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With questions like these you really gotta consult with a local criminal attorney.

In my jurisdiction harassment requires that the person committing the action is doing so with the intent to "disturb, harass, or annoy" so I wouldn't think either of your proposed actions (picture on Facebook/community meeting) would constitute harassment, but, again, your answer is likely to be jurisdiction specific.

Re: Chet's brother or whatever my guess on the cop's statement to him was probably an embellishment of the law designed to get Chet's brother to chill out.

 
meatwad1 said:
lol....you have one child molester moving in? Go on one of those family watchdog sites and type in any urban area in America. You will see thousands of red dots all over the place!!! You only have to deal with one, so your task is pretty simple. Alert your kids to this guy's presence, tell them to be on the lookout for any funny business. If you really have balls, you can go over to the guy's place and have a preemptive discussion. That might be a risk though because if you somehow are the straw that breaks the monkey's back, then your kids might be his final target. I would play it safe and just coach up your kids to be on red alert.
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Yep,

would bet good money he isn't the 1st

be alert be vigil, teach your kids, and do NOT go contact this guy, that isn't balls, that's stupidity.

 
Honestly I am somewhat sympathetic, despite how disgusting the pedophilia mental condition is. I think these folks are mentally ill and our system treats them the same as someone who robbed a liquor store. I just view my job is to safeguard my kid, not worry about this guy.

 
Clifford said:
I actually remember that thread. I have made some inquiries into the next neighborhood council meeting, but that's really worrying to hear that could be harassment. My wife posted his photo on to our neighborhood facebook group. Should I get her to delete the post? Is that harassment?

Have zero plans to approach this guy. Sounds like even getting together with other residents to discuss this could get me in trouble (pretty messed up IMO).
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Chet lives in Canada IIRC, so what amounts to "harrassment" there may not in the States. The 1st Amendment protects your right of assembly to protest, but you can't do it in a way that threatens him physically of course, and you also can't become a "nuisance" (legal meaning) to him. I'm sure there's at least one neighborhood organization that's on this issue. Check with your school's PTA to get more info.

 
Get your kids to shoot him & his pedo housing mom with paintball & bb-guns. If they get caught its no big deal since they are juveniles.

 
I get that they have to live somewhere, but this neighborhood is a grade school kid 2 out of 3 houses. I can't think of a worse place for a pedophile to live. How about somewhere downtown where there are practically no kids?

 
Clifford said:
I get that they have to live somewhere, but this neighborhood is a grade school kid 2 out of 3 houses. I can't think of a worse place for a pedophile to live. How about somewhere downtown where there are practically no kids?
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You and you're neighbors chipping in for rent?

 
Clifford said:
Honestly I am somewhat sympathetic, despite how disgusting the pedophilia mental condition is. I think these folks are mentally ill and our system treats them the same as someone who robbed a liquor store. I just view my job is to safeguard my kid, not worry about this guy.
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I have no sympathy for people like this. They are so selfish they have no problem whatsoever ruining your and your family's life for a little moment of sexual gratification. Anyone who diddles little kids should be ostracized from the community.

 
Clifford said:
I get that they have to live somewhere, but this neighborhood is a grade school kid 2 out of 3 houses. I can't think of a worse place for a pedophile to live. How about somewhere downtown where there are practically no kids?
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Yeah, I hear that one a lot too when clients call me to tell me that a registered guy just moved into the neighborhood. Nothing about the situation is good but there are no good answers. This specific argument is very similar to environmental discrimination - which is the argument that forcing polluting entities from directing their pollution (I dealt with airports mainly) is actually a basic form of racism because the rich white people in the suburbs can't possibly live with that noise and whatever, but direct the flight patterns over the city because those people are.......... and nothing that ends that sentence really works.

The best thing you can do is educate your children and simply heighten your alertness. The worst thing you can do is something stupid that leads you to being punished or worse arrested and then not being there with your kids.

 
Invest in some video cameras and document everything the guy does. If he steps out of line, report it to his probation officer.

 
Zow said:
I've never dealt with this personally in my neighborhood, but odds are this guy is likely on some pretty intensive probation, possibly monitoring, etc., so take some solace in that. You can check your state's specific version of Megan's Law and consult with an attorney in your jurisdiction, but offhand I'm not aware of any direct remedies to you.

My advice would probably be more along the lines of calming down and not becoming this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Marshall_(murderer)
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Wait, what???

While in Cape Breton, he met Greg McNeil, and once compared a small girl to a pebble.
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Found this kind of interesting:

Tattoo on L_bicep (Muscle man with $ on arm/ Derek above picture) , Tattoo on R_bicep (Joker with bags of money/ Take Me to your Dealer) , Tattoo on abdomen (Toya)

Take me to your dealer? And WTF is up with this grey background every time I paste something?

Yankee23Fan, this is a little different in that a neighborhood with a very low % of kids would offer much less opportunity for harm to the community. Pollutants are going to harm any community close by no matter what.

 
General Malaise said:
T Bell said:
Joe Summer said:
Invest in some video cameras and document everything the guy does. If he steps out of line, report it to his probation officer.
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From a half mile away?
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Good point. Maybe he should move closer to him?
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Good plan. Monitoring will be much easier.

Really I have no plans to watch this guy or have any interactions outside of what I usually do to keep an eye on my kid. I will probably stop letting my kid walk himself to his friend's house 8 houses down, which kinda sucks. One of the things I love about my neighborhood is that it is a place where you can let your kid have the run of the neighborhood without worrying. Guess that aspect is gone for the time being.

I am going to have a stranger-danger talk with him, but not mention anything about this particular guy moving in. He's only 6 and I don't want him to know how messed up the world is just yet.

 
Clifford said:
General Malaise said:
T Bell said:
Joe Summer said:
Invest in some video cameras and document everything the guy does. If he steps out of line, report it to his probation officer.
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From a half mile away?
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Good point. Maybe he should move closer to him?
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Good plan. Monitoring will be much easier.

Really I have no plans to watch this guy or have any interactions outside of what I usually do to keep an eye on my kid. I will probably stop letting my kid walk himself to his friend's house 8 houses down, which kinda sucks. One of the things I love about my neighborhood is that it is a place where you can let your kid have the run of the neighborhood without worrying. Guess that aspect is gone for the time being.

I am going to have a stranger-danger talk with him, but not mention anything about this particular guy moving in. He's only 6 and I don't want him to know how messed up the world is just yet.
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I understand why you are worried, but really 1/2 a mile away is a pretty long way off. What distance would make you feel its ok for your kid to walk 8 doors down? 1mile? 5?

 
It's more in the neighborhood vs not in the neighborhood. This is a fairly closed off, residential neighborhood. Everyone walks around, knows each other, etc. If I expand the radius to 2 miles, there are like 15 but I'm not concerned about them, because they are across a highway and pretty much unaccessible unless they specifically drive to where we are.

This guy is actually less than a quarter mile away. My kid never goes into this particular area of the neighborhood, but if this guy goes on a average-length walk there is a really good chance he goes right by our house.

My concern is essentially now that I am aware of this potential danger, what steps should I take to protect my kid. It sounds like there is nothing I can do from a legal perspective: this guy is a free man and can live with his mother if she allows it.

I do wish that more care was taken when placing these folks by their probation officers. Like I said, this is an extremely high-density area for families with small children, and he is within just a couple miles of my kids school.

 
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Zow said:
meatwad1 said:
lol....you have one child molester moving in? Go on one of those family watchdog sites and type in any urban area in America. You will see thousands of red dots all over the place!!! You only have to deal with one, so your task is pretty simple. Alert your kids to this guy's presence, tell them to be on the lookout for any funny business. If you really have balls, you can go over to the guy's place and have a preemptive discussion. That might be a risk though because if you somehow are the straw that breaks the monkey's back, then your kids might be his final target. I would play it safe and just coach up your kids to be on red alert.
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This is a terrible idea.
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wrong.

i have a fruit loop nut job in my neighborhood, that gets violent when off his meds. so far, he's only flipped his lid inside his house. the police have been called many times. he spent over a year in the looney bin. he is overly nice to women and little girls. every kid in the neighborhood knows who he is and comes and tells a parent any time he's outside. my daughter knows to never speak to him and to come inside immediately if he ever approaches her or any of her friends. we have made it very public, with the HOA, the police and his mother(who owns and lives in the house he lives in)that we know who this dude is, and that we are watching him closely.

the cops have told us to call any time he appears to be acting oddly. when he starts to lose his ####, he frenetically walks the neighborhood. they know exactly who he is and don't like or trust him either. it doesn't help that the dude is HUGE. he played for USC and the cops told us a story where it took 6 of them to cuff him, after tasoring him. :eek:

 
Clifford said:
General Malaise said:
T Bell said:
Joe Summer said:
Invest in some video cameras and document everything the guy does. If he steps out of line, report it to his probation officer.
Click to expand...
From a half mile away?
Click to expand...
Good point. Maybe he should move closer to him?
Click to expand...
Good plan. Monitoring will be much easier.

Really I have no plans to watch this guy or have any interactions outside of what I usually do to keep an eye on my kid. I will probably stop letting my kid walk himself to his friend's house 8 houses down, which kinda sucks. One of the things I love about my neighborhood is that it is a place where you can let your kid have the run of the neighborhood without worrying. Guess that aspect is gone for the time being.

I am going to have a stranger-danger talk with him, but not mention anything about this particular guy moving in. He's only 6 and I don't want him to know how messed up the world is just yet.
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One thing we do with our younger kids is send texts back and forth with the other parents saying "kids coming" and asking for texts when they get there, etc.

 
Clifford said:
It's more in the neighborhood vs not in the neighborhood. This is a fairly closed off, residential neighborhood. Everyone walks around, knows each other, etc. If I expand the radius to 2 miles, there are like 15 but I'm not concerned about them, because they are across a highway and pretty much unaccessible unless they specifically drive to where we are.

This guy is actually less than a quarter mile away. My kid never goes into this particular area of the neighborhood, but if this guy goes on a average-length walk there is a really good chance he goes right by our house.

My concern is essentially now that I am aware of this potential danger, what steps should I take to protect my kid. It sounds like there is nothing I can do from a legal perspective: this guy is a free man and can live with his mother if she allows it.

I do wish that more care was taken when placing these folks by their probation officers. Like I said, this is an extremely high-density area for families with small children, and he is within just a couple miles of my kids school.
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Probation doesn't exactly force these people to live certain places. There may be some limitations such as x-distance from a school and whether a sex offender can transfer jurisdictions, but it's not like probation master plans where offenders live.

 
Zow said:
meatwad1 said:
lol....you have one child molester moving in? Go on one of those family watchdog sites and type in any urban area in America. You will see thousands of red dots all over the place!!! You only have to deal with one, so your task is pretty simple. Alert your kids to this guy's presence, tell them to be on the lookout for any funny business. If you really have balls, you can go over to the guy's place and have a preemptive discussion. That might be a risk though because if you somehow are the straw that breaks the monkey's back, then your kids might be his final target. I would play it safe and just coach up your kids to be on red alert.
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This is a terrible idea.
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Oops, I accidentally bolded the wrong thing. :lmao:

Meant to bold the part about confronting the guy.

 
DA RAIDERS said:
Zow said:
meatwad1 said:
lol....you have one child molester moving in? Go on one of those family watchdog sites and type in any urban area in America. You will see thousands of red dots all over the place!!! You only have to deal with one, so your task is pretty simple. Alert your kids to this guy's presence, tell them to be on the lookout for any funny business. If you really have balls, you can go over to the guy's place and have a preemptive discussion. That might be a risk though because if you somehow are the straw that breaks the monkey's back, then your kids might be his final target. I would play it safe and just coach up your kids to be on red alert.
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This is a terrible idea.
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wrong.

i have a fruit loop nut job in my neighborhood, that gets violent when off his meds. so far, he's only flipped his lid inside his house. the police have been called many times. he spent over a year in the looney bin. he is overly nice to women and little girls. every kid in the neighborhood knows who he is and comes and tells a parent any time he's outside. my daughter knows to never speak to him and to come inside immediately if he ever approaches her or any of her friends. we have made it very public, with the HOA, the police and his mother(who owns and lives in the house he lives in)that we know who this dude is, and that we are watching him closely.

the cops have told us to call any time he appears to be acting oddly. when he starts to lose his ####, he frenetically walks the neighborhood. they know exactly who he is and don't like or trust him either. it doesn't help that the dude is HUGE. he played for USC and the cops told us a story where it took 6 of them to cuff him, after tasoring him. :eek:
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Yeah dude I totally bolded the wrong sentence.

 
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