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So hungover this morning I accidently wore two different shoes (1 Viewer)

Is it possible you lost your job because of how much time you spend on your phone? 

Sounds like a ####ty company but just something to think about?

 
If I was at a job where I had stuff to do rather than sit around I wouldn't be on my phone.
Good point. First few days on the job and you are bored, so you are on your phone. You are on it so much, you have to charge it. Not a bad look at all for a new employee. 

 
Well....everything's messed up this morning. I have been at a crossroads in my life the last few weeks. Searching for answers and a place to belong. I usually have a loner mentality so joining up with other groups is usually anathema to me.

Over the last couple of days I had been doing a lot of research about various political/religious groups and even contemplating starting my own. Last night I drank pretty heavily and got in to a conversation with a friend about this that eventually led to Jesus. This was not the first time I spoke with this person about ideology but last night it got particularly deeper because I had been seriously considering suicide in the last few weeks.

In my drunken stupor I created the previous thread about Jesus without thinking about much else. I awoke this morning with a pounding headache to see that I upset several people on here particularly @Evilgrin 72. It wAs not my intention to upset anyone I was merely was searching for answers in a desperate state.

That being said, now that I've upset an important FBG that was trying to help me I will gracefully remove myself from the FFA.

I will observe as a lurker because I generally enjoy the banter around here and I can still be reached by PM but I will not post.

im sorry EG

 
because I had been seriously considering suicide in the last few weeks.
I've given you a little smack under the premise that I believed this was your schtick. But seriously, if you are truly considering this, I urge you to get some help! I know you started a thread about Jesus but maybe talking to a minister could help you! 

 
Well....everything's messed up this morning. I have been at a crossroads in my life the last few weeks. Searching for answers and a place to belong. I usually have a loner mentality so joining up with other groups is usually anathema to me.

Over the last couple of days I had been doing a lot of research about various political/religious groups and even contemplating starting my own. Last night I drank pretty heavily and got in to a conversation with a friend about this that eventually led to Jesus. This was not the first time I spoke with this person about ideology but last night it got particularly deeper because I had been seriously considering suicide in the last few weeks.

In my drunken stupor I created the previous thread about Jesus without thinking about much else. I awoke this morning with a pounding headache to see that I upset several people on here particularly @Evilgrin 72. It wAs not my intention to upset anyone I was merely was searching for answers in a desperate state.

That being said, now that I've upset an important FBG that was trying to help me I will gracefully remove myself from the FFA.

I will observe as a lurker because I generally enjoy the banter around here and I can still be reached by PM but I will not post.

im sorry EG
I promise you that you didn't upset me.  It was just obvious to me that you were chafing under the bridle of the restrictions I put on you in an attempt to "better your standing" around here.  Thus, I don't want to put those restrictions on you any more if you can't operate under them.  That's it.  I'm not upset or angry with you and I won't stop trying to help you, it just won't be by telling you to post/not post.

Look, you're a very intelligent and talented guy.  I've said it over and over again and I mean it.  There have to be reasons you're struggling so much - it's not because you don't have the raw tools necessary to be successful and/or happy in life.  I believe you have a good heart and I know you're an excellent artist.  It's also obvious from your writing that you have a high IQ, even if you may not be classically educated.  I see parts of myself in you and while I've never walked a mile in your shoes, I've walked distances in a similar pair.  Better days can lie ahead for you if you don't give up.  Start by not giving up posting here, this board can be a real resource for you if you can turn peoples' opinions of you around.  That's all I was trying to do for you and it's not too late to achieve it.

 
Well....everything's messed up this morning. I have been at a crossroads in my life the last few weeks. Searching for answers and a place to belong. I usually have a loner mentality so joining up with other groups is usually anathema to me.

Over the last couple of days I had been doing a lot of research about various political/religious groups and even contemplating starting my own. Last night I drank pretty heavily and got in to a conversation with a friend about this that eventually led to Jesus. This was not the first time I spoke with this person about ideology but last night it got particularly deeper because I had been seriously considering suicide in the last few weeks.

In my drunken stupor I created the previous thread about Jesus without thinking about much else. I awoke this morning with a pounding headache to see that I upset several people on here particularly @Evilgrin 72. It wAs not my intention to upset anyone I was merely was searching for answers in a desperate state.

That being said, now that I've upset an important FBG that was trying to help me I will gracefully remove myself from the FFA.

I will observe as a lurker because I generally enjoy the banter around here and I can still be reached by PM but I will not post.

im sorry EG
Any hints about the name of your next alias?

Seriously though, if this post and your thoughts are real, get yourself some help immediately.

If you are just playing the suicide card to gain sympathy, you suck.

 
Seriously though, if this post and your thoughts are real, get yourself some help immediately.

If you are just playing the suicide card to gain sympathy, you suck.
Agreed.  Maybe stop kicking the guy in the ribs while he's down, just for a little while, OK?

 
Agreed.  Maybe stop kicking the guy in the ribs while he's down, just for a little while, OK?
Of course. That was why I encouraged him to seek help. 

As things were spiraling out of control this morning, he suddenly brings up the suicidal thoughts after he was debating with you for most of the morning.

Any cry for help should not be ignored. But, unfortunately others on these boards have used the suicide "threat" falsely to gain sympathy. As someone who has had a close experience with a loved one with these thoughts, it is not something to kid about or just throw out there. 

 
In every episode I remember from the TZ people were unknowingly sucked in. You raised you're hand and willingly walked thru the door. 
I would do it again.  I think I just asked a tiger to change its stripes a little too quickly.  But I'll keep walking through that door over and over if that's what it takes.

 
I would do it again.  I think I just asked a tiger to change its stripes a little too quickly.  But I'll keep walking through that door over and over if that's what it takes.
Understood and you're a good man for doing so.

I was simply poking a little fun at your TZ analogy.

 
I wish you the best RnR, as do most people here. This can be a good outlet, just try not to take everyone including yourself so seriously. If you are really depressed please seek professional help. Life is a gift. It's easy to lose track of that sometimes. Best of luck to you in getting your career up and running and finding good reasons to get up and going every day. 

 
I'd casually and quickly (if you're afraid of getting her in trouble) just walk over to her on your way out and say something to the effect of :

"I'd really like to talk more about what we discussed earlier, but I don't want to get you in trouble at work.  Would you like to get together sometime and maybe get to know one another better?"  If she responds positively, just jot your phone number down and hand it to her and say : "Give me a call sometime if you'd like to get together.  If not, that's cool too, I don't want to put you on the spot."  Hand her the number, smile and GTFO. 

Not exactly this, use your own words/charm, but anything along these lines.  The whole exchange shouldn't take more than 30 seconds.
Man that is spot on how to do it.  I'm committing this to memory.  Gives off just enough sense of confidence and interest with a dash of respect and aloofness mixed in.

 
I am going to reiterate the advice from Cat Stevens.  Take your time, nothing here or in your life needs be precipitous. 
Wild swings of oaths, all or nothing commitments and promises to others, these things are to be avoided.  Well thought out commitments to yourself which are the result of several seasons in your life are to be honored, and are a good thing, promises or curses made to the heavens following a temporary storm, a daily or hourly phenomenon, those are to be avoided. Shaking one's fist at the heavens or fates happens, but should be avoided. 

Also, as seasons of your life pass one into the other commitments or plans made during those times can be changed or discarded, or replaced by new and more relevant ones. What does not change is honor and treatment or respect for others.

Finally, the tally of life, the weighing of the balances, that does not occur until the end. In the end things may not balance, they may not be fair.  No one ever said they would.  Disabuse yourself of that belief.  That is promised to no one.  Sure work, effort, can weigh in the balance and more frequently than not prove fruitful, but there are no guarantees.  Stop looking for them and stop looking for them in daily or weekly tallies.  Sometimes you are going to be wronged.  Rage will not erase that.  Move ahead assured that sometimes you won't.  Sometimes you will wrong and not pay for your wrongs, sometimes joy will find you unaware, sometimes sadness will arrive unbidden.  The thing is, it is a hell of a ride so learn to enjoy riding.

Watch Lonesome Dove.  Strive to be like Gus

 
Best of luck Rok and please don't kill yourself. Get back on unemployment and as I mentioned to you a few weeks back I think you should really consider applying to some more professional recruiting firms.  I know you wanted to try some other things but just applying for the job doesn't mean you are going to take the job. I bet you would get some interviews and even if you didn't think it would be right for you perhaps they could help placing you at one of their clients.

I'm willing to look at your resume and potentially tweak it for you if you are at all interested. I've been in the human capital business for 20 years I'm pretty sure I could directly contact people for you at the large firms and get you interviews. We have had our differences but I don't really take this board or posters on here too seriously. The last thing I would want is for your interactions on here to lead you to dark places. 

 
Well....everything's messed up this morning. I have been at a crossroads in my life the last few weeks. Searching for answers and a place to belong. I usually have a loner mentality so joining up with other groups is usually anathema to me.

Over the last couple of days I had been doing a lot of research about various political/religious groups and even contemplating starting my own. Last night I drank pretty heavily and got in to a conversation with a friend about this that eventually led to Jesus. This was not the first time I spoke with this person about ideology but last night it got particularly deeper because I had been seriously considering suicide in the last few weeks.

In my drunken stupor I created the previous thread about Jesus without thinking about much else. I awoke this morning with a pounding headache to see that I upset several people on here particularly @Evilgrin 72. It wAs not my intention to upset anyone I was merely was searching for answers in a desperate state.

That being said, now that I've upset an important FBG that was trying to help me I will gracefully remove myself from the FFA.

I will observe as a lurker because I generally enjoy the banter around here and I can still be reached by PM but I will not post.

im sorry EG
No wait......

 
I wish you the best RnR, as do most people here. This can be a good outlet, just try not to take everyone including yourself so seriously. If you are really depressed please seek professional help. Life is a gift. It's easy to lose track of that sometimes. Best of luck to you in getting your career up and running and finding good reasons to get up and going every day. 
Well said.  

Life is a roller coaster.  Keep working at success and things will work out.   

 
I know everyone is piling on the "RNR is full of crap" line of thinking here, but I can't help but be genuinely concerned for this line:

I had been seriously considering suicide in the last few weeks.
RNR:  You have some personality issues that are causing you grief, but no one should feel like this.  Please get help now.  Not the FFA, but someone who can seriously help you.  Don't ignore those feelings.  Those are not a sign of weakness, but a sign of something terribly wrong that needs to be dealt with.  A colleague of mine had his son commit suicide.  The amount of pain and suffering that puts on the people around you is unimaginable.  If you stop caring for yourself, please care for your family and friends that you potentially will leave behind to wonder "What could I have done to prevent this?".  

Seriously brother.. Don't ignore that.  

 
I know everyone is piling on the "RNR is full of crap" line of thinking here, but I can't help but be genuinely concerned for this line:

RNR:  You have some personality issues that are causing you grief, but no one should feel like this.  Please get help now.  Not the FFA, but someone who can seriously help you.  Don't ignore those feelings.  Those are not a sign of weakness, but a sign of something terribly wrong that needs to be dealt with.  A colleague of mine had his son commit suicide.  The amount of pain and suffering that puts on the people around you is unimaginable.  If you stop caring for yourself, please care for your family and friends that you potentially will leave behind to wonder "What could I have done to prevent this?".  

Seriously brother.. Don't ignore that.  
:goodposting: in general.  To the bolded, I'm sure many do feel that way, and it's probably not unfounded or unreasonable.  I guess I'm just missing what is to be gained by posting to that effect in here rather than just shaking one's head and clicking away to another thread if that's the way you feel. 

 
Well....everything's messed up this morning. I have been at a crossroads in my life the last few weeks. Searching for answers and a place to belong. I usually have a loner mentality so joining up with other groups is usually anathema to me.

Over the last couple of days I had been doing a lot of research about various political/religious groups and even contemplating starting my own. Last night I drank pretty heavily and got in to a conversation with a friend about this that eventually led to Jesus. This was not the first time I spoke with this person about ideology but last night it got particularly deeper because I had been seriously considering suicide in the last few weeks.

In my drunken stupor I created the previous thread about Jesus without thinking about much else. I awoke this morning with a pounding headache to see that I upset several people on here particularly @Evilgrin 72. It wAs not my intention to upset anyone I was merely was searching for answers in a desperate state.

That being said, now that I've upset an important FBG that was trying to help me I will gracefully remove myself from the FFA.

I will observe as a lurker because I generally enjoy the banter around here and I can still be reached by PM but I will not post.

im sorry EG
Go do something, anything in the real world.   Get out of your own head and off this place for a while and disconnect from the internet.   It will give you some perspective.   Movie, golf,walk, jog, go somewhere and grab a bite anything will be more productive than what you are doing now.   

 
sad right?
Others said this guy is Eminence. Eminence played the suicide threat card before and then admitted it was a false claim. In my opinion there is nothing lower than using the word "suicide" to gain sympathy because there are too many people that actually deal with these thoughts everyday.

I see red when I think someone abuses this cry for help. If I am wrong, I apologize.

 
Others said this guy is Eminence. Eminence played the suicide threat card before and then admitted it was a false claim. In my opinion there is nothing lower than using the word "suicide" to gain sympathy because there are too many people that actually deal with these thoughts everyday.

I see red when I think someone abuses this cry for help. If I am wrong, I apologize.
Hes not Eminence

 
Well....everything's messed up this morning. I have been at a crossroads in my life the last few weeks. Searching for answers and a place to belong. I usually have a loner mentality so joining up with other groups is usually anathema to me.

Over the last couple of days I had been doing a lot of research about various political/religious groups and even contemplating starting my own. Last night I drank pretty heavily and got in to a conversation with a friend about this that eventually led to Jesus. This was not the first time I spoke with this person about ideology but last night it got particularly deeper because I had been seriously considering suicide in the last few weeks.

In my drunken stupor I created the previous thread about Jesus without thinking about much else. I awoke this morning with a pounding headache to see that I upset several people on here particularly @Evilgrin 72. It wAs not my intention to upset anyone I was merely was searching for answers in a desperate state.

That being said, now that I've upset an important FBG that was trying to help me I will gracefully remove myself from the FFA.

I will observe as a lurker because I generally enjoy the banter around here and I can still be reached by PM but I will not post.

im sorry EG
Please call this number. There will be somebody who wants to talk to you and will help you. It's confidential, it's free, it's 24 hours a day.  1-800-273-8255

 
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I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone.
Not only do I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone, I also feel old as ####. it seems like last week that Wozz0rz was our resident dip#### and then out of the he blue popped up with a post that contained actual good advice for our friend Em (now being played by RnR)..  

Now Em is giving back to the kramoonity.   #circleoflife

 
Serious advice. OP has said he is a waiter before. 

Why not get a job at a nice restaurant where the cost of living is low? 
It sounds like to me OP is just very depressed and hates all these jobs. He needs to find his passion and follow that dream but he needs to get right mentally before doing so. I feel for him.

 
Serious advice. OP has said he is a waiter before. 

Why not get a job at a nice restaurant where the cost of living is low? 
In my experience, waiting tables/bartending has always been an easy entry into a social life as well.  Not always (ever) a healthy one, but since hospitality types all work the same hours, which are typically opposite hours of working stiffs like me, they tend to hang out together.  I had a couple of waiting/bartending jobs and late night hangouts and poon expeditions were typically the order of the day.  Might not be a bad short-term fix.

 
I am just having a good day. Plus I actually like RnR. I want to see him win at something. 
I really meant this RnR. I can only offer some kind words. I hope you figure out what makes you happy and then you can come back here and be happy, laugh with and at us and  then look back at this as the turning point in your life that led to something wonderful.

 
In my experience, waiting tables/bartending has always been an easy entry into a social life as well.  Not always (ever) a healthy one, but since hospitality types all work the same hours, which are typically opposite hours of working stiffs like me, they tend to hang out together.  I had a couple of waiting/bartending jobs and late night hangouts and poon expeditions were typically the order of the day.  Might not be a bad short-term fix.
This is more solid advice from EG.  It is easy to get these jobs and you get cash in your pocket.  You can make good money at the right establishments.  And, if you want, you can eventually work into a mgmt. role. 

 
Rok, how you feeling today, pal?
A gastropub in the Dallas design district was having open interviews for servers and bartenders. I was the second to arrive early in my cheap suit but I was the best dressed. Didn't miss a beat on the interview and charmed the pants off the hostess that was conducting them. At the end she said...

" I can't make the decision myself, I need to speak to the owner later,but I think you're going to be fine. You should hear from him to tonight or the next day"

 

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