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[Dedfin]

Hello RokNRole,

Enlist into a branch into the armed forces.

/advice

I think some of your posts are interesting and genuine.  Some of your posts and threads overdo it, but so what.  I wish you the best of luck.  You have your entire life in front of you, no sense in filling it with negative ####.

 

[RokNRole]

Hello RokNRole,

Enlist into a branch into the armed forces.

/advice

I think some of your posts are interesting and genuine.  Some of your posts and threads overdo it, but so what.  I wish you the best of luck.  You have your entire life in front of you, no sense in filling it with negative ####.

Thanks.

33 is a bit too old to be joining the military. It's something that has crossed my mind several times in my life but I don't think I could reconcile it with my political views.

 

[RokNRole]

I actually did attempt to join the Navy when I was 22-23. I was excited about it. I scored a 93 on the ASVAB which was one of the highest scores ever recorded out of that recruiting branch. I qualified for " advanced electronics weapons controllman" or some variation of that title. It was like the #3 top job available and they said I would likely wind up on an Aegis cruiser or certainly a sub if I volunteered for sub duty.

Then I was informed I had to do extra training at the recruiter and arrive at boot camp 2 weeks early for what sounded like remedial classes because I had a GED. That really chapped my ### because I scored much higher on all the tests than anyone in the class, even recruits with degrees that qualified for nuclear jobs.

I no longer trusted the military after that and I didn't go.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

A gastropub in the Dallas design district was having open interviews for servers and bartenders. I was the second to arrive early in my cheap suit but I was the best dressed. Didn't miss a beat on the interview and charmed the pants off the hostess that was conducting them. At the end she said...

" I can't make the decision myself, I need to speak to the owner later,but I think you're going to be fine. You should hear from him to tonight or the next day"

#### yeah, man!  Way to go. That'll mean some nice cash in pocket and a new set of people to hang out with too. Plus, plenty of time to look for something else by day if you desire. 

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I actually did attempt to join the Navy when I was 22-23. I was excited about it. I scored a 93 on the ASVAB which was one of the highest scores ever recorded out of that recruiting branch. I qualified for " advanced electronics weapons controllman" or some variation of that title. It was like the #3 top job available and they said I would likely wind up on an Aegis cruiser or certainly a sub if I volunteered for sub duty.

Then I was informed I had to do extra training at the recruiter and arrive at boot camp 2 weeks early for what sounded like remedial classes because I had a GED. That really chapped my ### because I scored much higher on all the tests than anyone in the class, even recruits with degrees that qualified for nuclear jobs.

I no longer trusted the military after that and I didn't go.

I think all you really need is someone to advise you on major decisions and you'll be fine. You let ego get in the way here. While I understand it, it was an immature decision. You'd be 10 years in by now and halfway to retirement. 

 

[RokNRole]

I think all you really need is someone to advise you on major decisions and you'll be fine. You let ego get in the way here. While I understand it, it was an immature decision. You'd be 10 years in by now and halfway to retirement. 

Chances are I wouldn't have been happy with the structure of it. And my political views are far more fringe now. It was more of a desperation move that I wasn't fully sold on from the beginning so I don't regret it.

the military isn't for everyone and I can't see any way it would have been right for someone like me.

 

[RokNRole]

#### yeah, man!  Way to go. That'll mean some nice cash in pocket and a new set of people to hang out with too. Plus, plenty of time to look for something else by day if you desire. 

If I get it I'm going to stick with it for a while and get my head on straight in a less stressful environment. Only thing I'll be looking for during the day is some sweet poon tang.

it seems like I'll get the job.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Chances are I wouldn't have been happy with the structure of it. And my political views are far more fringe now. It was more of a desperation move that I wasn't fully sold on from the beginning so I don't regret it.

the military isn't for everyone and I can't see any way it would have been right for someone like me.

Wouldn't have been right for me either, so I get it. If that was why you turned it down, that would be understandable but it seems like at the time, it was an ego thing. Maybe it worked out for the best, but hopefully those types of decisions can be made differently now that you're older and wiser. 

 

[Evilgrin 72]

If I get it I'm going to stick with it for a while and get my head on straight in a less stressful environment. Only thing I'll be looking for during the day is some sweet poon tang.

it seems like I'll get the job.

Good attitude to have going in. Keep us posted.

 

[RokNRole]

Wouldn't have been right for me either, so I get it. If that was why you turned it down, that would be understandable but it seems like at the time, it was an ego thing. Maybe it worked out for the best, but hopefully those types of decisions can be made differently now that you're older and wiser. 

Yes ego was a part of it of course. Everyone has an ego about certain things. I wish they had been up front about that before I went through the process.

i also lost faith in them because why are they making me do this if they want "the best and brightest? Not everyone can complete a HS diploma. I was working since I was 14 because my mother was an unemployed alcoholic most of my life. I couldn't manage school and work by the time I was 16. It's just another punishment for being poor.

it wasn't a good look for the military from my perspective

 

[RokNRole]

If I had barely passed the ASVAB I would understand but I nearly aced the thing. I have to take 2 weeks of remedial HS work for nothing and people who got scores like 77 are going to be managing our nuclear arsenal?

f that. If you get above a 90 you should get a pass on that if you have a GED. They even show you a pic of a flaring tool and ask you what it is and I knew. Almost nobody knows what a flaring tool is!

 

[Galileo]

Yes ego was a part of it of course. Everyone has an ego about certain things. I wish they had been up front about that before I went through the process.

i also lost faith in them because why are they making me do this if they want "the best and brightest? Not everyone can complete a HS diploma. I was working since I was 14 because my mother was an unemployed alcoholic most of my life. I couldn't manage school and work by the time I was 16. It's just another punishment for being poor.

it wasn't a good look for the military from my perspective

Serious question...have you shown any signs of alcoholism?  Sometimes these things can run in families.  I only ask because if the answer is "yes", maybe a pub is not the best place for employment.  I hope the answer is "no", and I hope the job works out for you.

 

[RokNRole]

Serious question...have you shown any signs of alcoholism?  Sometimes these things can run in families.  I only ask because if the answer is "yes", maybe a pub is not the best place for employment.  I hope the answer is "no", and I hope the job works out for you.

Yeah I've shown plenty of signs and I've been well aware of my predispositions for a long time. I've had long periods of alcohol abuse and then I get myself under control. It's not just a pub it's also a restaurant and most have a policy of employees not drinking on premises even when they are not on shift.

Even if it was allowed I certainly wouldn't get trashed in front of coworkers and my employer. When I drink socially I'm far more reserved and observant of my intake because I don't want to embarrass myself. I much more often than not keep it together drinking in social situations. I drink excessively when I do it alone.

 

[RokNRole]

My father was also an alcoholic and both of my parents fathers and grandfathers

 

[Dedfin]

Thanks.

33 is a bit too old to be joining the military. It's something that has crossed my mind several times in my life but I don't think I could reconcile it with my political views.

It's not too old.  I think it would be worth it for you.

 

[Dedfin]

Chances are I wouldn't have been happy with the structure of it. And my political views are far more fringe now. It was more of a desperation move that I wasn't fully sold on from the beginning so I don't regret it.

the military isn't for everyone and I can't see any way it would have been right for someone like me.

"happy with the structure of it" is exactly why you should go.  But anyway, I'll drop it.

 

[RokNRole]

It's not too old.  I think it would be worth it for you.

Why do you say that?

 

[Dedfin]

Why do you say that?

Because you will get your #### together.

 

[RokNRole]

"happy with the structure of it" is exactly why you should go.  But anyway, I'll drop it.

I know it can be beneficial for many people it's not something I see myself in. I only considered it out of desperation and that's probably not the best reason to join. It should be something a person is passionate about don't you think?

i thinknthe cutoff is 35 so I have nearly two full years where I could consider it again. Would they not take me because I bailed at the last minute in the past?

 

[RokNRole]

Because you will get your #### together.

Compared to where I was 3 years ago my #### is much more together. I just happened to get laid off and be unemployed but I've been completely self sufficient for 3 years straight. Something that surprises everyone including myself.

 

[Dedfin]

I know it can be beneficial for many people it's not something I see myself in. I only considered it out of desperation and that's probably not the best reason to join. It should be something a person is passionate about don't you think?

i thinknthe cutoff is 35 so I have nearly two full years where I could consider it again. Would they not take me because I bailed at the last minute in the past?

 No.  Anyway, it really looks like you are averse to the idea.  Let's not belabor this.

 

[skol asylum]

Slinging booze at night and Uber driver during the day. You could be rolling in it. Good luck!

 

[RokNRole]

I didn't get the job.

 

[Galileo]

Yeah I've shown plenty of signs and I've been well aware of my predispositions for a long time. I've had long periods of alcohol abuse and then I get myself under control. It's not just a pub it's also a restaurant and most have a policy of employees not drinking on premises even when they are not on shift.

Even if it was allowed I certainly wouldn't get trashed in front of coworkers and my employer. When I drink socially I'm far more reserved and observant of my intake because I don't want to embarrass myself. I much more often than not keep it together drinking in social situations. I drink excessively when I do it alone.

While I am sure this is true of many places, that was never my experience.  In my younger days, I worked in the kitchen of a restaurant/bar.   The restaurant would close before the bar, and the owners used to give us drinks when the kitchen closed while we were in clean up mode...especially after a busy night as sort of a thank you for working hard type gesture.  Quite often people working the restaurant would end up in the bar late night after clocking out.  It was a fairly hard drinking crowd that worked there and access to alcohol was easy.   I had buddy who worked at a different place, and I can't count the number of times we sat around that establishment, after closing time, drinking with the manager.  That was long ago, and I am sure every place is different.

As I said, I hope it works out for you, but be cautious.  

 

[skol asylum]

Uggh. Sorry man. Don't give up. Try apply at other similar places over the next couple of days. 

 

[RokNRole]

"I didn't fit the mold of what they are looking for" idk what that means. The girl I spoke to had me in high hopes

 

[Galileo]

I didn't get the job.

damn

 

[skol asylum]

"I didn't fit the mold of what they are looking for" idk what that means. The girl I spoke to had me in high hopes

You aren't a hot young woman with big knockers.

 

[RokNRole]

You aren't a hot young woman with big knockers.

None of the servers there were

 

[RokNRole]

Slinging booze at night and Uber driver during the day. You could be rolling in it. Good luck!

I have a 2 door car

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

Rok,

I am always wishing you the best, even though I have not been active in this thread to date.

I have a questions though, and maybe it has been covered already. I apologize if so.

You have a very obvious artistic talent. Have you explored ways to turn this into an income stream? Even if it is not enough...initially...to provide full financial support, it could really help.

I make a small amount of money via photography, and I do not consider my talent in it to be anything above what you have displayed here with your own work. Plus, it gives me great satisfaction.

 

[RokNRole]

Rok,

I am always wishing you the best, even though I have not been active in this thread to date.

I have a questions though, and maybe it has been covered already. I apologize if so.

You have a very obvious artistic talent. Have you explored ways to turn this into an income stream? Even if it is not enough...initially...to provide full financial support, it could really help.

I make a small amount of money via photography, and I do not consider my talent in it to be anything above what you have displayed here with your own work. Plus, it gives me great satisfaction.

Once I have some steady income in I was thinking of submitting my work to some game developers in the area. That would be a bit of a dream job. Other than that I don't know anyway to make money on it right away.

 

[Man of Constant Sorrow]

Once I have some steady income in I was thinking of submitting my work to some game developers in the area. That would be a bit of a dream job. Other than that I don't know anyway to make money on it right away.

That sounds great! 

When I hit some hard times back around 2009, I had no internet access for quite a few years...thus, I initially thought I had no really good way to market my work. In response, I got involved in the local art scene and the various local shows they put  on. In the process, I met many great people and found a market for my work.

To this day, I still rely on this method, but I have flirted with going online.

If you have the time, I can vouch for its positive aspects.

 

[CurlyNight]

How ironic. When the RIP Fin thread was bumped and I saw the usual messing around from long before I thought of RnR and wondered.. People don't get it. You know someone is really struggling, on the edge- and you still choose to have "fun" with them. Sure he's joining in and saying it's cool, but really inside, it's not. People need to knock the #### off with people who have serious struggles no matter what they say. There is no re-do once the person is gone. /rant

Wish you the best RnR. It may not be a bad idea to take a break from this board and concentrate on getting help. xxx

 

[Galileo]

Once I have some steady income in I was thinking of submitting my work to some game developers in the area. That would be a bit of a dream job. Other than that I don't know anyway to make money on it right away.

15 ways to sell your art online

 

[RokNRole]

I'm just pissed she made me think I was a shoe in.

the only thing I can think of that went wrong is she asked if I was a sports fan. I said yes and she asked if I am a NY fan. I said of course I am I was born there. Then she said the owner is a cowboys fan. I asked if that mattered and she laughed and said she didn't think so.

 

[RokNRole]

15 ways to sell your art online

Thanks. I'll check it out if I ever feel inspired again. I haven't drawn anything but dong doodles for you guys in the last 3 years.

 

[RokNRole]

Maybe they thought I was too overqualified from my resume?

Was I overdressed in the interview?

Did I shoot myself in the foot by giving them the impression I was sophisticated and professional?

 

[MikeIke]

Maybe they thought I was too overqualified from my resume?

Was I overdressed in the interview?

Did I shoot myself in the foot by giving them the impression I was sophisticated and professional?

You're overthinking it. They probably had another applicant that had previous bartending experience. 

Join the Army. They'll set you straight, and pay for higher education after you get out. 

 

[RokNRole]

You're overthinking it. They probably had another applicant that had previous bartending experience. 

Join the Army. They'll set you straight, and pay for higher education after you get out. 

I'm. It joining the army. I'm not going to fight in anyone else's war.

 

[RokNRole]

You're overthinking it. They probably had another applicant that had previous bartending experience. 

Join the Army. They'll set you straight, and pay for higher education after you get out. 

If that were the case wouldn't they have said " we went with someone more experienced"?

Why use the phrase "doesn't fit the mold"?

 

[shadyridr]

You need a break man

 

[RokNRole]

You need a break man

From what?

 

[shadyridr]

From what?

You need to catch a break

 

[RokNRole]

You need to catch a break

Oh I agree

 

[DocHolliday]

Hang in there.  Keep applying for jobs.  You will get one.  

 

[RokNRole]

Hang in there.  Keep applying for jobs.  You will get one.  

I had my heart set on an easy waiting job.

Found 3 other restaurants with open interviews next week. I'm going to do my resume again tomorrow and put the 6 months of server I have on there.

Do you think shirt and tie is too overdressed for a restaurant? Would I be better off casual like plaid shirt, jeans/khakis and blue Lacoste's shoes?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Yes ego was a part of it of course. Everyone has an ego about certain things. 

I'm the same way. That's why it was easy for me to recognize. 

You've got a ton of intelligence, you just need more wisdom. No recipe for that but time. I'm just barely acquiring some and I'm 12 years older than you. 

 

[MikeIke]

I had my heart set on an easy waiting job.

Found 3 other restaurants with open interviews next week. I'm going to do my resume again tomorrow and put the 6 months of server I have on there.

Do you think shirt and tie is too overdressed for a restaurant? Would I be better off casual like plaid shirt, jeans/khakis and blue Lacoste's shoes?

Geez, I honestly don't know. I'd never even think about NOT wearing (at least) a tie to an interview. But I'm not interviewing for bartender spots. 

I can't imagine a tie would work against you. 

 

[Evilgrin 72]

You aren't a hot young woman with big knockers.

Probably. Or a hipster with a big beard. No big deal, there have to be plenty of other places to apply to.