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El Floppo
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I keep hearing about the guys that drive the specialty rigs: cherry-picker, diggers, etc... making better money than most architects. probably have to take a class or something... but given the experience driving already, this seems like a best bet option in the contstruction industry for our hero.
DocHolliday
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Daisy has brought up a good option for Rok. There is a ton of money to be made in the construction field. And, construction is not just about digging ditches or hauling bricks. Learn how to lay floor tile or install tile back splashes. With his artistic eye, he should do well at helping people choose their tile. Rok would also excel at painting. I have a friend that owns his own painting business. It is just him and one EE but he makes six figures and takes most of Dec and Jan off.
msudaisy26
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Those are operators and they make a killing, especially the guys that are trained to do lifts with huge cranes and other speciality machines.
Man of Constant Sorrow
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BTW: This was sarcasm you rubes!
Now, onto something more serious...
I was employed on the science/office/legal schickt for 20+ years. It paid well enough but had an enormous psychological downsides for me. Many of which you share, Rok.
I went to the construction industry in 2009 (painting)...at the age of 41.
Now, I am nearing 50, and I have never felt better. I work on my own, with my own truck...no one to answer to....etc.
It can work.
You can make it work.
SaintsInDome2006
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RNR2, I think you're picking up steam now, you can plow your way through this. Good luck.
SaintsInDome2006
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MikeIke
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Paper bags are also handy for ripening avacados and tomatoes that are bought before they're ready to use.
Man of Constant Sorrow
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-OZ-
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Dude, you're not old.
I'm starting a new career (related to my last one but still, at the bottom of the organization) in the next couple weeks and I'm over 40.
Maybe to start but there's gold in them threre skills.
Truthfully, I'm trying to sell my 14yo on one of the trade skills mentioned.
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Henry Ford
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Evilgrin 72
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I had a good friend that recently passed away after a skiing accident. He used to operate the cranes they use on skyscraper construction and repair in NYC. He was also a union rep. When he passed, he was 35 years old and was making $350k annually.El Floppo said:
Evilgrin 72
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True, but what prompted this?RokNRole said:
McGarnicle
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The Kerminator
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MikeIke
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Oh yeah, you don't need a college education to make a good living. Just need the right training. Judge Smails said "the world needs ditch diggers, too," but it also needs crane operators, forklift drivers, plumbers, drywall layers, and all sorts of labor. Pretty soon (if not already) those guys will be in higher demand than lawyers.
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Henry Ford
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If you can operate a hydraulic crane from a barge to build bridges, you can make a heck of a lot of money.
MikeIke
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Everything is going well at work. I started taking orders and running my own tables. Last night I was working like a machine on crack and pretty much took charge of my entire section and left everyone in my dust which allowed the more experienced servers to lead other sections. Business is picking up and it looks like this place will start making some serious dough.
Galileo
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Henry Ford
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Judge Smails
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Cool, but there is danger in this too. My son got a high end server job in college. He was on the 5 1/2-6 year plan as he really wasn't committed or doing well in the middle. The problem is on the nights he was working he'd often make $200-$300 in tips. He could surf in the morning if he wanted to and basically worked 5-6 hours max. But the hours/days were hit or miss, they could call him off and the money was inconsistent. Also, when you are in your early 20's that kind of tip money feels like the lottery. I gave him the option but also was clear on what the real world costs if he wants certain things (home, anything close to lifestyle like vacations etc we have, retirement, etc) that a server job wouldn't get him there. He ended up getting his degree and is now doing Executive Recruiting sales for fire and safety and is cracking 6 figures in year 2. Entirely different ballgame. He wouldn't have gotten the interview without a degree.
Ditkaless Wonders
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Ditkaless Wonders
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I am guessing it was meant to be instructive or informative. Those are types of support, sharing one's experiences.
Quint
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I'm on full time. Worked amshift Sunday. Doubles on Monday and yesterday and a PM shift Tuesday. Today I'm off but told them if they need amextra at dinner to call me and I'll be working at least one shift Friday-Sunday and I guess a double or two in that span.
Quint
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Ditkaless Wonders
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Different strokes for different folks. Me, I would have been grateful for the input I had invited with my post.
belljr
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Evilgrin 72
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I wouldn't. Just internalize what Smails wrote, take it as friendly advice/experience, and move on.
Nice work at the new job, sounds like it's going swimmingly thus far. Other staffers cool/environment good?
Evilgrin 72
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Evilgrin 72
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Everybody is different and has different goals, aspirations, circumstances, etc. Just do whatever is right for you. You're the only one who can decide that. Anyone and everyone can provide advice or life experience - maybe some of it will prove useful now or later and maybe it won't. I don't believe you need to fixate on 5 years down the road right now, you just got a new job and it sounds like you're digging it and kicking ### so just live in the moment for now and see where this road leads you. If you decide a few months from now that you want to pursue a degree in something that can lead to a career with a retirement at the end of it, you'll have time during the day to do that and still keep the job at nights/on weekends. I also know career servers, there's a way to point yourself to retirement on your own without a 401(k), etc.. but that's a discussion for another day.
College isn't an option at this point in my life. Wasn't even in my early 20's since there isn't anything taught in college that interests me.
From what hat I understand there are people that make a good living as a career server or bartender at high end restaurants. I may stick with this for a long while and would be interested in hearing how someone in that feild can retire. As of right now the only retirement plan I can think of is a bullet in the head once I'm old and my body breaks down.
El Floppo
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fwiw, I went to college with people much older than you, Rok. also had friends go back later in life (later than you), get new degrees and change careers.
but college is by no means an end-all. IME, it does help open doors and does help educate (those that are open to an eductation... which many 18-22 yos are not, IMO).
I'm certain there are many people in hospitality- server-world here in NYC that make a lot more than I do and will be doing it their entire lives. I'm certain that there are people selling and doing all manner of crap that make a lot more than I do, in spite of my 7 years of college/grad-school life and expenses.
did you ever comment on driving a specialty construction rig? not something you'd like or have interest in?
but college is by no means an end-all. IME, it does help open doors and does help educate (those that are open to an eductation... which many 18-22 yos are not, IMO).
I'm certain there are many people in hospitality- server-world here in NYC that make a lot more than I do and will be doing it their entire lives. I'm certain that there are people selling and doing all manner of crap that make a lot more than I do, in spite of my 7 years of college/grad-school life and expenses.
did you ever comment on driving a specialty construction rig? not something you'd like or have interest in?
Quint
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re: the bold - i felt the same way in my early 30s. a few things in my life changed and i ended up going to school at 36, graduated at 40.
not saying it's for you, but if you have questions going down that road i'm happy to pass along thoughts.
KCitons
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The key to retirement isn't based on your job. It's living within your means, saving religiously, and investing wisely.
Judge Smails
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Baloney Sandwich
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I've sent boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
Henry Ford
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Transitioning to high-end restaurant management in your early-to-mid-40s is a good plan.
Judge Smails
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just got caught up. Wasn't trying to be a ####. Truly. Didn't know your age or see the comments about college not being an option for you at this point. Just giving you the perspective I gave my son, which is serving can be lucrative but it's capped. As long as that cap fits in with what your goals are you're fine.
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