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So hungover this morning I accidently wore two different shoes (2 Viewers)

RokNRole said:
I'm still interested in being a father.

Dont restaurant employees hook up on the reg?
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In my experience after working one month at a restaurant during highschool (after 2 weeks I gave my 2 weeks notice) yes yes they do.

 
RokNRole said:
That's why im depressed
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Then you need to stop drinking and get some counseling. I'd be willing to bet substance abuse is the root cause of most of your problems, even if you can't necessarily draw a clear line from A to B. 

It's very likely that the path from where you are to where you want to be is right in front of you. All I or anyone else can do is show you where it is. You have to walk it. Until you do, you're liable to keep spinning in place. You can't expect things to fall into your lap. You have the means to seize control of your situation. Do it. 

 
RokNRole said:
It's only 6pm. I polished off a sixer of porter and 2 keystone. I feel like getting more but I'll drive drunk.
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why not just shut it down now? 

you had 8 beers, and six of them sound decent. do you really need more, or is it just boredom? 

 
Quint said:
why not just shut it down now? 

you had 8 beers, and six of them sound decent. do you really need more, or is it just boredom? 
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Yeah I'm bored. I'm listening to a lot of heavy metal and thinking about buying "Dredd" on the Xbox store

i really want to see that movie

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Then you need to stop drinking and get some counseling. I'd be willing to bet substance abuse is the root cause of most of your problems, even if you can't necessarily draw a clear line from A to B. 

It's very likely that the path from where you are to where you want to be is right in front of you. All I or anyone else can do is show you where it is. You have to walk it. Until you do, you're liable to keep spinning in place. You can't expect things to fall into your lap. You have the means to seize control of your situation. Do it. 
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great advice that like all the other great advice that came before it will be ignored by RokNRole.  

 
Conanthecontrarian said:
what are we talking, once in the last month? yeah you are swimming in it. lol.

im starting to think Single Mom came to her senses and got as far away from you as possible.
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It's kind of weird to me that your whole existence on this board (that I've seen) was obsessively whacking the hell out of Eminence and now RnR. 

 
Conanthecontrarian said:
great advice that like all the other great advice that came before it will be ignored by RokNRole.  
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I understand. I know he reads it and considers it. It's just frightening. It's confusing. He doesn't know where to start. 

I've been there. I've spent time in my life floundering, partying, going nowhere. Many of the funny stories I tell are from those days or are residue of those days. I'm no stranger to the drink or the drogas. I'm lucky that I'm not genetically pre-disposed to alcoholism or I'd be dead by now. I'm lucky that I had enough sense to get out of certain situations and break certain habits before they destroyed me. I know many others who weren't so lucky. I've avoided telling stories involving these people but I will eventually. 

I've seen alcoholism close up. VERY close up on more than one occasion. I know the warning signs, I know the devastating effects. However, I also know that it's not a one way street. Things can and do turn around. No one can do it for Rok. He either has to do it for himself or he'll end up spending the rest of his life depressed and unfulfilled. 

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
I understand. I know he reads it and considers it. It's just frightening. It's confusing. He doesn't know where to start. 

I've been there. I've spent time in my life floundering, partying, going nowhere. Many of the funny stories I tell are from those days or are residue of those days. I'm no stranger to the drink or the drogas. I'm lucky that I'm not genetically pre-disposed to alcoholism or I'd be dead by now. I'm lucky that I had enough sense to get out of certain situations and break certain habits before they destroyed me. I know many others who weren't so lucky. I've avoided telling stories involving these people but I will eventually. 

I've seen alcoholism close up. VERY close up on more than one occasion. I know the warning signs, I know the devastating effects. However, I also know that it's not a one way street. Things can and do turn around. No one can do it for Rok. He either has to do it for himself or he'll end up spending the rest of his life depressed and unfulfilled. 
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very true.

 
Conanthecontrarian said:
not at all true. but thanks for caring.
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I don't think I've ever seen a post of yours anywhere else. 

"Tough love" is one thing but you and a few others seem to genuinely enjoy kicking people who are down. I don't understand you at all. Apologies if that sounds "holier than thou," I just don't understand what you get out of living in this thread and throwing punches all the time. 

 
My only advice would be to cut down half the time on Xbox and replace it with trolling for women on Tinder. Technology and today's youth having a casual moral attitude has made it easier than ever to get laid. Railing a bunch of random broads won't solve all your problems but it certainly won't add to them. You seem fairly isolated in terms of having relationships with others outside of the interactions you have at work. It might do you a lot of good hanging out with horny women, perhaps you won't cut down on your drinking but at least you would cut down on your drinking alone. Plus you would be tapping a bunch of strange. Tapping a lot of strange can do wonders for one's mood.

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
I don't think I've ever seen a post of yours anywhere else. 

"Tough love" is one thing but you and a few others seem to genuinely enjoy kicking people who are down. I don't understand you at all. Apologies if that sounds "holier than thou," I just don't understand what you get out of living in this thread and throwing punches all the time. 
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they are there. you just have to look to see my other posts. they might not be in threads you post in. I dont know. 

Rok has been given a crapload of great advice in here and other threads and he completely ignores it. in fact he seems to flaunt ignoring it by posting about driving drunk, getting hammered almost every night, etc.  it irritates me.

so, I try to stay away and not post in here or just post in response to people other than RokNRole. then something he posts sets me off and I feel the need to engage. as someone posted earlier he either posts about how bad he has it and looks for sympathy or he struts in here bragging about how he has the world by the tail.

 
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Conanthecontrarian said:
they are there. you just have to see my other posts. they might not be in threads you post in. I dont know. 

Rok has been given a crapload of great advice in here and other threads and he completely ignores it. in fact he seems to flaunt ignoring it by posting about driving drunk, getting hammered almost every night, etc.  it irritates me.

so, I try to stay away and not post in here or just post in response to people other than RokNRole. then something he posts sets me off and I feel the need to engage. as someone posted earlier he either posts about how bad he has it and looks for sympathy or he struts in here bragging about how he has the world by the tail.
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I'll take your word for it. I also understand why you might get irritated, but all I've ever said is to try to think about the fact that there's a person behind the screen name. I sound like Jhoe here, I know, but maybe just clicking away is more constructive / positive if you feel the need to engage. You can avoid this thread altogether. 

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
I understand. I know he reads it and considers it. It's just frightening. It's confusing. He doesn't know where to start. 

I've been there. I've spent time in my life floundering, partying, going nowhere. Many of the funny stories I tell are from those days or are residue of those days. I'm no stranger to the drink or the drogas. I'm lucky that I'm not genetically pre-disposed to alcoholism or I'd be dead by now. I'm lucky that I had enough sense to get out of certain situations and break certain habits before they destroyed me. I know many others who weren't so lucky. I've avoided telling stories involving these people but I will eventually. 

I've seen alcoholism close up. VERY close up on more than one occasion. I know the warning signs, I know the devastating effects. However, I also know that it's not a one way street. Things can and do turn around. No one can do it for Rok. He either has to do it for himself or he'll end up spending the rest of his life depressed and unfulfilled. 
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Your level of caring in this case is really commendable.  You're a better man than me.  I just don't have a lot of empathy for guys in their 30's not having their act together.  Get a career/job.  Get along with people, including co-workers. Choose partners/friends wisely.  If you have self destructive behaviors, change.  You get one shot at life - give it your best.  Take care  of your business.  Granted, if one already has an addiction or mental health issue help is needed.  That's a different story.  But with stories of adulthood stunted for a decade or more like this one I just don't have your level of patience or understanding.  Doesn't know where to start? You and others have given advice for months and months.

In before Rok's cut/paste comment of "I choose not to interact with people like you" 

 
RokNRole said:
I'm going to wait 2 hours
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Terrible idea.  

At this point you've consumed 8 beers.  I'll give you a couple hours to have done that. I'm going to underestimate and assume the porters aren't a significantly high ABV.  I'm also going to assume that you even metabolize alcohol slightly faster than the average sized male.  I'm also going to assume you're an average sized male.  This means that each drink you have likely adds ~ .022% to your BAC.  

Assuming you just finished your last beer, your BAC is actually still rising.  You have likely metabolized two drinks, but that still leaves at least four that are already in your system and two make their way.  With four, that puts you at a ~.088% BAC.  If you wait two hours you'll metabolize... 

Dammit, at this point I'm just gonna stop.  Too many assumptions here and I'm creeping towards giving you the direct advice that I probably shouldn't.  And, you probably wouldn't listen to it anyway.  Either way, please don't drive tonight.  Seriously.  

 
Conanthecontrarian said:
they are there. you just have to look to see my other posts. they might not be in threads you post in. I dont know. 

Rok has been given a crapload of great advice in here and other threads and he completely ignores it. in fact he seems to flaunt ignoring it by posting about driving drunk, getting hammered almost every night, etc.  it irritates me.

so, I try to stay away and not post in here or just post in response to people other than RokNRole. then something he posts sets me off and I feel the need to engage. as someone posted earlier he either posts about how bad he has it and looks for sympathy or he struts in here bragging about how he has the world by the tail.
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Im not comfortable with this kind of power over your life.

 
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