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So hungover this morning I accidently wore two different shoes (1 Viewer)

Mental illness is a cancer. It's life long and doesn't even have the decency to kill you. Eventually it makes you kill yourself and you have to think of all the people you dissapointed.

Even in death you get no respite. It's terrible.
I've seen it first hand. Many relatives and some friends so I understand what you are saying. The only solution is seeking treatment. Just like with cancer. No one wants to deal with the chemo and radiation along with the complications and side effects that go with it. I've got other issues from the treatments. I could recur or mets at any time as I am high risk. But if I didn't seek treatment I'd be stage IV by now. So in this sense it's like your situation. You have the option to seek treatment so you won't feel so helpless.

There were times I was like screw it. I didn't inform my fam because they would become Dr Phil and Dr Oz and are high anxieties to boot. So I'm alone in this. There have been times I've said screw it, but at 52, I'm not ready to be gone and yes, my fam would be mortified if I did stop my cancer meds and go stage IV, which is what would happen if I did.

So we have a choice. Just need to take the step and do it.

 
I've seen it first hand. Many relatives and some friends so I understand what you are saying. The only solution is seeking treatment. Just like with cancer. No one wants to deal with the chemo and radiation along with the complications and side effects that go with it. I've got other issues from the treatments. I could recur or mets at any time as I am high risk. But if I didn't seek treatment I'd be stage IV by now. So in this sense it's like your situation. You have the option to seek treatment so you won't feel so helpless.

There were times I was like screw it. I didn't inform my fam because they would become Dr Phil and Dr Oz and are high anxieties to boot. So I'm alone in this. There have been times I've said screw it, but at 52, I'm not ready to be gone and yes, my fam would be mortified if I did stop my cancer meds and go stage IV, which is what would happen if I did.

So we have a choice. Just need to take the step and do it.
Do you feel that strong every day?

 
Do you feel that strong every day?
Strong in the sense that I'm not giving up. That's a challenge, a good one at that. Strong in terms of energy, no. All the chemo, radiation, meds just wreaked havoc on me that my fatigue level is usually sky high. I don't sleep well and must take a long nap, and even then, I'm still fuzzy with memory issues and joint pain. Not a great life for sure. Kind of embarrassing when I go to my friends for the day and need to take a 2 hour nap in the afternoon in order to make it to the night.

 
Strong in the sense that I'm not giving up. That's a challenge, a good one at that. Strong in terms of energy, no. All the chemo, radiation, meds just wreaked havoc on me that my fatigue level is usually sky high. I don't sleep well and must take a long nap, and even then, I'm still fuzzy with memory issues and joint pain. Not a great life for sure. Kind of embarrassing when I go to my friends for the day and need to take a 2 hour nap in the afternoon in order to make it to the night.
What is it like to have friends and family?

 
What is it like to have friends and family?
I have 1 very best friend that I see. She lives near me. She's very busy with her own life and issues with her family so I don't see her as much as I'd like. Family.... well, while mine are loving and kind, they don't equate me at the same level as themselves because I was never into status, rich was never my goal, etc. My bro and I are simple and they aren't, so we don't click like that. I pulled away because I felt it's best for my mental health to not be around them, and then I got cancer and am glad they don't know. Bro visits them once a year, same reasons as I have for pulling away. We are "black sheep." Mom and Dad are in touch but I keep them at bay too because they can drive me nuts with their stuff.

So to me, not being surrounded by the wrong friends and a family that isn't beneficial to my psyche is better.

 
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I bet this morning, around 7 am you wake up , eat a nutritious breakfast , drink Jamacain blue mountain coffee and get in to a Luxery SUV you bought new off the lot. No worry of engine failure for several years. Then you drive a bit and walk in to a nice office building with a friendly security guard that knows you by name.

And all day, every day, you can have conversations about friends, family, business and money. Talk all day with people that understand you and you can all frolic like baby deer around the office. Everyone is happy, successful and wins.

When you get home there are real human beings there. Walking and talking. People who's eyes you can look in to.

How very lucky.

 
I bet this morning, around 7 am you wake up , eat a nutritious breakfast , drink Jamacain blue mountain coffee and get in to a Luxery SUV you bought new off the lot. No worry of engine failure for several years. Then you drive a bit and walk in to a nice office building with a friendly security guard that knows you by name.

And all day, every day, you can have conversations about friends, family, business and money. Talk all day with people that understand you and you can all frolic like baby deer around the office. Everyone is happy, successful and wins.

When you get home there are real human beings there. Walking and talking. People who's eyes you can look in to.

How very lucky.
Not everyone has this life you speak of. And everyone has problems, even if it looks like they don't. No one is problem free. There's always something when you are dealing with another or a group of people.

 
I'm sure most have much better.
There are so many people living in poverty, hungry, on the streets here in our own country. Then you have people in places like Africa who don't even have clean water to drink. I'd say they have it much worse than any of us.

 
There are so many people living in poverty, hungry, on the streets here in our own country. Then you have people in places like Africa who don't even have clean water to drink. I'd say they have it much worse than any of us.
They are African tribespeople. They have families and tribes. They have people. I don't see the comparison or how it negates another persons suffering.

 
I bet this morning, around 7 am you wake up , eat a nutritious breakfast , drink Jamacain blue mountain coffee and get in to a Luxery SUV you bought new off the lot. No worry of engine failure for several years. Then you drive a bit and walk in to a nice office building with a friendly security guard that knows you by name.

And all day, every day, you can have conversations about friends, family, business and money. Talk all day with people that understand you and you can all frolic like baby deer around the office. Everyone is happy, successful and wins.

When you get home there are real human beings there. Walking and talking. People who's eyes you can look in to.

How very lucky.
I woke up at 6:45.  Dragged myself out of bed amidst all the aches and pains it requires just to stand up.  House is empty.  I watched TV for an hour trying to screw up the will to go through another day.  No breakfast, no coffee.  I climbed into my brand new Mustang that I bought off the lot with 0 miles on it and no worry of engine failure for several years.  Drove for an hour and 15 minutes to a seen-better-days office building with no security guard.

All day, I'll answer 1,001 stupid questions and solve every problem everyone in the building has.  The minute ANYTHING stops working the way it should or any employee needs to deviate course one iota from their everyday duties, rather than attempt to fix the problem, they'll run to me exasperated and beg me to fix whatever it is causing the issue.  I'll spend all day, frustrated and annoyed but unable to voice/show it, doing this (it's happened three times since I started typing this response.)  I won't have one conversation that isn't work related.  No one in this building knows/understands me at all.  If you polled them, to a man/woman, they would probably say I am humorless and severe (the FFA knows quite differently.)  No one here is happy or particularly successful.  I don't really care much for that term, because what comprises "success" is highly subjective and varies from person to person.

When I get home, the house will be empty.  At some point thereafter, my wife will get home.  Some days, she's happy and we have a nice conversation.  Other days, she's depressed and angry and we don't talk all that much.  Either way, within an hour, she'll be doing some housework or in the bedroom watching dreck like E! News while I am in the living room watching sports.  Some days, we sit and talk through her various family crises and I'm right back into problem solving mode.  Then, she'll go to bed and I spend about an hour wondering how long I could live if I sold everything I owned, bought a van with a mattress in the back and a camping stove and just drove around the country drinking beer and seeing the world before I dropped dead.

Then, I get into bed, try to find a position that doesn't aggravate my multiple herniated discs in my back and pray for a few hours of dreamless sleep before an unconscious twist or roll causes pain like a knife being jammed into my back wakes me up.  At 6:45, the alarm goes off and I do this all over again.

When Saturday comes, I spend the whole day doing yard work, or fixing/cleaning things in my nice big house, cleaning the pool, running errands, etc.  Maybe we'll go out to eat on Saturday night.  You'll see me pulling up to your restaurant in a new car and get out wearing nice clothes.  I'll come in and order whatever I want off the menu because I have the money to do that.  I'll smile and laugh and enjoy that one hour a week and you'll look at me and say : "This guy has it all figured out."  You'll probably curse me under your breath and envy that I have everything while you have nothing.  Then, I'll get up and drive home and spend the rest of that evening wishing I was young and unencumbered again.  That I could pick up at any time and go anywhere I wanted, do anything I wanted.  That the world was fresh and new again, full of infinite possibilities.  That I wasn't a slave to a wife and a mortgage and a group of employees that rely on me.  I'll wish I had no house and no money and no responsibilities.  I'll wish every friend I have wasn't saddled with families or wives that keep their bollocks in her purse.  I'll wistfully pine for bygone days of vomiting off of boardwalk rides and into garbage cans, of taking psychedelics and walking around with 2 dollars and a pack of Marlboros in my pocket, all while you sit home with most of the things I want, wanting what I have.  Or at least thinking you do.

Don't dissect this, pointing out all the reasons why you have it so much worse than I do.  Just get the moral of the story.

 
Damn that was a solid read.  Thanks for sharing, it's good to know a lot of what goes on with me might be universal.  

Quality post EG.

 
I woke up at 6:45.  Dragged myself out of bed amidst all the aches and pains it requires just to stand up.  House is empty.  I watched TV for an hour trying to screw up the will to go through another day.  No breakfast, no coffee.  I climbed into my brand new Mustang that I bought off the lot with 0 miles on it and no worry of engine failure for several years.  Drove for an hour and 15 minutes to a seen-better-days office building with no security guard.

All day, I'll answer 1,001 stupid questions and solve every problem everyone in the building has.  The minute ANYTHING stops working the way it should or any employee needs to deviate course one iota from their everyday duties, rather than attempt to fix the problem, they'll run to me exasperated and beg me to fix whatever it is causing the issue.  I'll spend all day, frustrated and annoyed but unable to voice/show it, doing this (it's happened three times since I started typing this response.)  I won't have one conversation that isn't work related.  No one in this building knows/understands me at all.  If you polled them, to a man/woman, they would probably say I am humorless and severe (the FFA knows quite differently.)  No one here is happy or particularly successful.  I don't really care much for that term, because what comprises "success" is highly subjective and varies from person to person.

When I get home, the house will be empty.  At some point thereafter, my wife will get home.  Some days, she's happy and we have a nice conversation.  Other days, she's depressed and angry and we don't talk all that much.  Either way, within an hour, she'll be doing some housework or in the bedroom watching dreck like E! News while I am in the living room watching sports.  Some days, we sit and talk through her various family crises and I'm right back into problem solving mode.  Then, she'll go to bed and I spend about an hour wondering how long I could live if I sold everything I owned, bought a van with a mattress in the back and a camping stove and just drove around the country drinking beer and seeing the world before I dropped dead.

Then, I get into bed, try to find a position that doesn't aggravate my multiple herniated discs in my back and pray for a few hours of dreamless sleep before an unconscious twist or roll causes pain like a knife being jammed into my back wakes me up.  At 6:45, the alarm goes off and I do this all over again.

When Saturday comes, I spend the whole day doing yard work, or fixing/cleaning things in my nice big house, cleaning the pool, running errands, etc.  Maybe we'll go out to eat on Saturday night.  You'll see me pulling up to your restaurant in a new car and get out wearing nice clothes.  I'll come in and order whatever I want off the menu because I have the money to do that.  I'll smile and laugh and enjoy that one hour a week and you'll look at me and say : "This guy has it all figured out."  You'll probably curse me under your breath and envy that I have everything while you have nothing.  Then, I'll get up and drive home and spend the rest of that evening wishing I was young and unencumbered again.  That I could pick up at any time and go anywhere I wanted, do anything I wanted.  That the world was fresh and new again, full of infinite possibilities.  That I wasn't a slave to a wife and a mortgage and a group of employees that rely on me.  I'll wish I had no house and no money and no responsibilities.  I'll wish every friend I have wasn't saddled with families or wives that keep their bollocks in her purse.  I'll wistfully pine for bygone days of vomiting off of boardwalk rides and into garbage cans, of taking psychedelics and walking around with 2 dollars and a pack of Marlboros in my pocket, all while you sit home with most of the things I want, wanting what I have.  Or at least thinking you do.

Don't dissect this, pointing out all the reasons why you have it so much worse than I do.  Just get the moral of the story.
No offense EG but why do you stay married?  My life is far from perfect but your life seems very empty.    

 
My suicide note is so long I can't even think about it. It might be keeping me alive.

Thats positive to some.
Look man. I don't know if your persona here is schtick or not. But one thing I do know is I don't play around when suicide talk is going on. I lost a good family friend to this a long time ago, and I didn't know at the time the signs. And if I had known, I could have least tried to talk to him. So this is no joke to me, or many others in here.

So when I see this, it's time to get help. If you are serious, you are crying for it. And if you need help, you need to walk, drive, crawl your ### to the nearest hospital and check yourself in. Don't worry about the damn money. Don't worry about your job. Don't worry about anything else but taking that first step to help. And that first step is a step of accomplishment.

People do care about you. It's clear in this thread, even if you are trolling the heck out of a bunch of kind-hearted people.

Because you got me - but I can't ignore the suicide talk. 

 
I got up at 4:50.  What with my various orthopedic injuries over the years, arthritis, diabetes, and prostrate troubles who can sleep later.  I got a solid five hours of fitful, painful sleep after working the day before from 7 AM to 10PM.  I rode my bike for a half an hour in front of the T.V. after some pushups and some squats.  I shower, shave and get into either my 8 year old Hyundai or my 17 year old Dodge Truck and get to work around 6:30.  On the drive I think about my Dad in the hospital with his cancer that has returned for the fourth time.  I think about my sister's divorce proceeding.  I think about the work I have to do to settle the estates of my brother and aunt who both died recently.  I wonder how I will get out of the financial jam spending 1.9 million dollars on my brother's care over the years now has me in.   I think about those things because I do not want to think about my appointment later in the week with the nuclear medicine department and the surgeon who will be looking to get new tumors out of my head and neck.

Work has me problem solving for others, doing the work of others. Lunch today will be a salad during a CLE presentation then back to work.  Today will be a light day at work, I'll be done by 6PM.  On the way home I will buy some spray for a lawn fungus.  I will cut the lawn, spray for fungus and clean out the pond.  I'll put something on the grill while I am doing this because my wife and child will not be home from Dance classes until 10PM.  No dinner on the table or light banter, just bring in the garbage cans, pick up the dog poop and get to the yard work.  The physical labor will make me vomit, I do that a lot now.  I'll shower, eat, and then work on the estates for an hour or so.  My wife will get home at 10PM.  She will share her day which means she will tell me what needs fixing around the house come the weekend.  I'll lay down for bed around 11:00 waiting for sleep to become more pressing than the pain I feel.  I'll hope the phone doesn't ring during the night because if it does it means my dad is dead.

I'm grateful for everyday.

 
No offense EG but why do you stay married?  My life is far from perfect but your life seems very empty.    
None taken.

I love my wife very much.  She's a terrific person and we have fun together in the rare moments when we both have some free time. Careers, her family issues, maintaining a house/property, etc doesn't allow for both of us to have large blocks of time concurrently in which we can do things together.  Further, we have pretty radically different interests.  That wasn't always the case, but we've been together for 17 years.  She used to love to party, as I did (do) but she has the alcoholic gene and things were going downhill, so she had to stop.  She still smokes enough bud to make Snoop Dogg blush, but doesn't really enjoy the bar scene any more. 

Getting a divorce isn't going to make anything better, nor do I have any desire to do so.  I'm not going to get separated and move into a bachelor pad and suddenly be out there lassoing trim left and right and making new stories to tell you guys.  I'm 45 years old.  At this point, I just keep my head down and work towards retirement, hoping one day I'll have the resources to just travel and see the world and write.  Without either of us having the responsibilities of careers or home ownership, things would be a lot better.  I still go to concerts and occasionally hit the bars with my friends, it's just that those occasions are much fewer and farther between because everyone I know has the same or even more responsibilities that I do. 

The point of that post wasn't to illustrate that my life sucks, it doesn't.  It's just pretty humdrum and mundane these days.  The point I was trying to convey to Rok is that we all want what we don't have.  Having money and a family doesn't automatically make your problems go away, sometimes it creates new ones.  Happiness has to come from within.

 
I got up at 4:50.  What with my various orthopedic injuries over the years, arthritis, diabetes, and prostrate troubles who can sleep later.  I got a solid five hours of fitful, painful sleep after working the day before from 7 AM to 10PM.  I rode my bike for a half an hour in front of the T.V. after some pushups and some squats.  I shower, shave and get into either my 8 year old Hyundai or my 17 year old Dodge Truck and get to work around 6:30.  On the drive I think about my Dad in the hospital with his cancer that has returned for the fourth time.  I think about my sister's divorce proceeding.  I think about the work I have to do to settle the estates of my brother and aunt who both died recently.  I wonder how I will get out of the financial jam spending 1.9 million dollars on my brother's care over the years now has me in.   I think about those things because I do not want to think about my appointment later in the week with the nuclear medicine department and the surgeon who will be looking to get new tumors out of my head and neck.

Work has me problem solving for others, doing the work of others. Lunch today will be a salad during a CLE presentation then back to work.  Today will be a light day at work, I'll be done by 6PM.  On the way home I will buy some spray for a lawn fungus.  I will cut the lawn, spray for fungus and clean out the pond.  I'll put something on the grill while I am doing this because my wife and child will not be home from Dance classes until 10PM.  No dinner on the table or light banter, just bring in the garbage cans, pick up the dog poop and get to the yard work.  The physical labor will make me vomit, I do that a lot now.  I'll shower, eat, and then work on the estates for an hour or so.  My wife will get home at 10PM.  She will share her day which means she will tell me what needs fixing around the house come the weekend.  I'll lay down for bed around 11:00 waiting for sleep to become more pressing than the pain I feel.  I'll hope the phone doesn't ring during the night because if it does it means my dad is dead.

I'm grateful for everyday.
When I do chuck it all away and buy my van, my first stop will be to come pick you up.  We'll get Hawaiian shirts and sunglasses, I'll get a floppy hat and cigarette holder.  We'll load the van with illegal substances, turn on the tape recorder (podcast recorder?) and just drive.

 
When I do chuck it all away and buy my van, my first stop will be to come pick you up.  We'll get Hawaiian shirts and sunglasses, I'll get a floppy hat and cigarette holder.  We'll load the van with illegal substances, turn on the tape recorder (podcast recorder?) and just drive.
I'd be a paid subscriber for this.

 
I'm grateful for everyday.
And this, Rok, should be your take-away from all of this.  Any of us can make our lives seem like sheer hell if we simply go through the facts without passion or prejudice.  Everyone has a cross to bear, everyone has responsibilities, everyone has problems.  I know you often think you're alone in the world or that everyone else has things figured out while no one understands you, but most people are far more like you than you think.  It's just life.

If you've read my posts/stories over the years it should be obvious that I wasn't meant to be sitting at a desk, solving BS problems in an industry/job I couldn't care less about.  I hate doing it, but it keeps my wife and myself alive, fed, and sheltered.  I should be out there living, and entertaining people in one form or another; it's what I was born to do.  I know this, but I never figured out how to monetize those talents, so I make do with my other talents - intelligence, organizational skills, the ability to lead people. I had to monetize that because those skills are in demand more so than stories about crapping in your pants or chugging Jagermeister in a hooker's face (that story is still to come.)

You need to find whatever is out there and get enough of it to get you through to the next day, and the next, and the one after that.  No one can do it for you.

 
When I do chuck it all away and buy my van, my first stop will be to come pick you up.  We'll get Hawaiian shirts and sunglasses, I'll get a floppy hat and cigarette holder.  We'll load the van with illegal substances, turn on the tape recorder (podcast recorder?) and just drive.
I have the shirts and the shades.  About 4 years back I spotted a cream colored 1966 Lincoln Continental convertible with the suicide doors.  I tried to grab it.  the guy wanted cash.  when I got back it was gone.  I am still on the lookout.   That will be my party car.  I'll head out and pick you up. 

 
I have the shirts and the shades.  About 4 years back I spotted a cream colored 1966 Lincoln Continental convertible with the suicide doors.  I tried to grab it.  the guy wanted cash.  when I got back it was gone.  I am still on the lookout.   That will be my party car.  I'll head out and pick you up. 
Give me a 24 hour heads-up and I'm in...  :lol:

 
I woke up at 10:15, had sex with the neighbor's unemployed sister then I ate a bagel and took public transportation to my brother's house for a lawn darts tournament.  I'm working as I play, because I can multitask.   After this I'll go to the bar and play on people's fears of men who still don't believe in facial hair.  I'll at some point call me boss and tell her what a ####ty day I had and how work is stressful, then I'll watch three episodes of some Netflix show and do it all again tomorrow! 

 
My life is great.  I have a good wife, still unusually attractive.  My kid is an honor student and is well regarded locally and regionally in dance and is beginning to make a name for herself.  The house and cars are paid off.  My family and friends can rely on me.  During the day I might see a pretty girl or two and I have learned to enjoy yard work and housework.  My perspective and attitude are my own and occasionally I get up into the mountains for some kayaking and fishing.  Sunsets are free and when the full moon casts shadows in the trees of the mountains I just might spend the night wondering wide-eyed, and I DO MEAN WIDE-EYED, THROUGH THE NIGHT.  While working on family matters I can play my music, and occasionally I might get to a festival or two.  Sometimes I can travel, the world is full of wonder. Like Lou Gehrig I'm the luckiest man in the world.

 
My life is great.  I have a good wife, still unusually attractive.  My kid is an honor student and is well regarded locally and regionally in dance and is beginning to make a name for herself.  The house and cars are paid off.  My family and friends can rely on me.  During the day I might see a pretty girl or two and I have learned to enjoy yard work and housework.  My perspective and attitude are my own and occasionally I get up into the mountains for some kayaking and fishing.  Sunsets are free and when the full moon casts shadows in the trees of the mountains I just might spend the night wondering wide-eyed, and I DO MEAN WIDE-EYED, THROUGH THE NIGHT.  While working on family matters I can play my music, and occasionally I might get to a festival or two.  Sometimes I can travel, the world is full of wonder. Like Lou Gehrig I'm the luckiest man in the world.
EXACTLY.

This is precisely what I was trying to get across.  You strip everything down and just state facts, it can sound like you've got one foot off the stool.  But when you color in the gaps, that's when the real picture emerges.  That's what Rok needs, but seems unable, to do.

Rok, I think you've just been beaten down so much that you have no self-confidence or optimism.  You assume anything and everything will fail and is a lost cause before you even take the first step.  Until and unless you get out of that mind-set, you're always going to fail because you've preordained it.  You've got to get a handle on this self-destructive bent that pervades your life or you're never going to get anywhere near where you want to be.  It's not your fault that you're in this way mentally, but pointing fingers of blame, no matter how accurate you may be, doesn't help YOU get anywhere.  You've got to stop spending time identifying the problems you have and start identifying solutions.

 
Countries aren't in the habit of giving Visas to people with huge amounts of debt , no money to invest in the country or a degree to secure a job in said country. It's a virtual impossibility for someone like me.
Have you tried? Being her fiance, wouldn't that change things? Husband?

 
To be clear Bell - I wasn't calling you one of those, just showing you I haven't lost my lighthearted sense of humor.

boner

 
I opted out of the thread... but end of days looks like suicide talk and pulled me back- and I genuinely hope Rok gets some real help or calls the hotline mentioned in the suicide thread. I actually like Rok from his posting here- wish him nothing but the best and am now real-life concerned about his well-being given the thread title. if you haven't already- get some help, Rok! 

 
Countries aren't in the habit of giving Visas to people with huge amounts of debt , no money to invest in the country or a degree to secure a job in said country. It's a virtual impossibility for someone like me.
how do you know this?

have you applied for a VISA? secured a passport? spoken with someone at DHS about VISAs and how they are issued? 

 
And this, Rok, should be your take-away from all of this.  Any of us can make our lives seem like sheer hell if we simply go through the facts without passion or prejudice.  Everyone has a cross to bear, everyone has responsibilities, everyone has problems.  I know you often think you're alone in the world or that everyone else has things figured out while no one understands you, but most people are far more like you than you think.  It's just life.

If you've read my posts/stories over the years it should be obvious that I wasn't meant to be sitting at a desk, solving BS problems in an industry/job I couldn't care less about.  I hate doing it, but it keeps my wife and myself alive, fed, and sheltered.  I should be out there living, and entertaining people in one form or another; it's what I was born to do.  I know this, but I never figured out how to monetize those talents, so I make do with my other talents - intelligence, organizational skills, the ability to lead people. I had to monetize that because those skills are in demand more so than stories about crapping in your pants or chugging Jagermeister in a hooker's face (that story is still to come.)

You need to find whatever is out there and get enough of it to get you through to the next day, and the next, and the one after that.  No one can do it for you.
You hate it but you have friends and family in your life.

Im not grateful for every day.

 
how do you know this?

have you applied for a VISA? secured a passport? spoken with someone at DHS about VISAs and how they are issued? 
Did research online. Unless someone were to hire me in England and wait 3 months for me to get a visa I won't get one.

 
I opted out of the thread... but end of days looks like suicide talk and pulled me back- and I genuinely hope Rok gets some real help or calls the hotline mentioned in the suicide thread. I actually like Rok from his posting here- wish him nothing but the best and am now real-life concerned about his well-being given the thread title. if you haven't already- get some help, Rok! 
No resources or time for that.

 
I opted out of the thread... but end of days looks like suicide talk and pulled me back- and I genuinely hope Rok gets some real help or calls the hotline mentioned in the suicide thread. I actually like Rok from his posting here- wish him nothing but the best and am now real-life concerned about his well-being given the thread title. if you haven't already- get some help, Rok! 
No resources or time for that.
check the suicide thread if you haven't already, gb... it has a lot of legitimately good info and support in there.

Curly's suggestion for people without insurance for getting treatment meds.

Henry's text number for getting live, real-time texting support. I know there was a 1-800 number in there too... but I have to address a work thing- will look later if you don't find it on your own.

 

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