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RokNRole said:
Based on the responses it sounds like we are in an age where workers must accept any and all BS they are presented with and have no right to stick up for themselves even in the face of blatant lies. Slavery still exists in this country.
Regardless of your stance, the statement and how you phrased it was very poor form. Your being coached on the handling of a customer is nowhere near the same as slavery. 

I thought you were a lot of things. Racist is just another to add to the pile. 

 
Regardless of your stance, the statement and how you phrased it was very poor form. Your being coached on the handling of a customer is nowhere near the same as slavery. 

I thought you were a lot of things. Racist is just another to add to the pile. 
I think you missed the point.

 
@RokNRole

just a word on dogs: 

please be sure to look into pet insurance before you adopt/buy/rescue a dog. as many dog owners will attest, at some point you'll find yourself at the ER Vet with some kind of doggo emergency, and i'd hate to learn your dog couldn't receive care b/c finances are an issue. 

 
@RokNRole

just a word on dogs: 

please be sure to look into pet insurance before you adopt/buy/rescue a dog. as many dog owners will attest, at some point you'll find yourself at the ER Vet with some kind of doggo emergency, and i'd hate to learn your dog couldn't receive care b/c finances are an issue. 
We are getting a mutt to cut down on genetic defects. What does pet insurance typically cost?

 
We are getting a mutt to cut down on genetic defects. What does pet insurance typically cost?
depends on the carrier, and the breed. ours was $40/month when Molly (our dog) was a puppy, now around $56 at 8 years old. 

genetics are one thing, but when your dog decides to eat the elastic out of your underwear at 1:45 am on a Monday, it doesn't much matter. ask around. perform some due diligence. if your dog is going to be your "kid" then that's the least you can do. 

 
depends on the carrier, and the breed. ours was $40/month when Molly (our dog) was a puppy, now around $56 at 8 years old. 

genetics are one thing, but when your dog decides to eat the elastic out of your underwear at 1:45 am on a Monday, it doesn't much matter. ask around. perform some due diligence. if your dog is going to be your "kid" then that's the least you can do. 
I go strictly commando

 
depends on the carrier, and the breed. ours was $40/month when Molly (our dog) was a puppy, now around $56 at 8 years old. 

genetics are one thing, but when your dog decides to eat the elastic out of your underwear at 1:45 am on a Monday, it doesn't much matter. ask around. perform some due diligence. if your dog is going to be your "kid" then that's the least you can do. 
In all seriousness. Yes we will get insurance.

 
depends on the carrier, and the breed. ours was $40/month when Molly (our dog) was a puppy, now around $56 at 8 years old. 

genetics are one thing, but when your dog decides to eat the elastic out of your underwear at 1:45 am on a Monday, it doesn't much matter. ask around. perform some due diligence. if your dog is going to be your "kid" then that's the least you can do. 
Wow! More power to you but there is no way I am spending $600+ a year on dog insurance. The most we have ever had to spend on a dog at one "emergency" visit was about $150. Have had 3 dogs (2 still living) over 23 years.

 
Wow! More power to you but there is no way I am spending $600+ a year on dog insurance. The most we have ever had to spend on a dog at one "emergency" visit was about $150. Have had 3 dogs (2 still living) over 23 years.
yeah. i get that. our dog has some inherent, breed-specific issues that we deemed insurance necessary.....and it had saved thousands of $$$ so far. some breeds are rough and tumble enough to where most things can be handled at home, and don't require a Vet visit. 

for @RokNRole, and his current financial situation, it seems like insurance is a positive option. yes, it's a monthly outlay. my concern is for the dog: much better to decide to take the dog to the Vet in any case of emergency and get 80% back via insurance, than to decide that "it's too expensive" and the animal has to suffer. 

hope that doesn't come off as preachy, but i've read this thread from 1-104 and have a sense of things. 

 
Wooderson said:
So you can afford $100 a month for pet insurance. Plus other pet costs. But you can't afford medical care for yourself. 

Maybe take care of yourself first then worry about pets. 
I thought it was $40 a month

i already have health insurance. I can go to the ER like illegal immigrants and they can't turn me away. Why would I pay for something I can get for free like them?

 
Quint said:
yeah. i get that. our dog has some inherent, breed-specific issues that we deemed insurance necessary.....and it had saved thousands of $$$ so far. some breeds are rough and tumble enough to where most things can be handled at home, and don't require a Vet visit. 

for @RokNRole, and his current financial situation, it seems like insurance is a positive option. yes, it's a monthly outlay. my concern is for the dog: much better to decide to take the dog to the Vet in any case of emergency and get 80% back via insurance, than to decide that "it's too expensive" and the animal has to suffer. 

hope that doesn't come off as preachy, but i've read this thread from 1-104 and have a sense of things. 
I will discuss it with my lady. We probably don't need the insurance since we will be getting a small dog that will be monitored constantly. Worse comes to worse the dog can be put to sleep. I have that same option if I were to get sick. I can just put a bullet in my brain stem.

Welcome to america

 
I thought it was $40 a month

i already have health insurance. I can go to the ER like illegal immigrants and they can't turn me away. Why would I pay for something I can get for free like them?
Awesome insurance.  Between not paying taxes, unpaid student loans, might as well add unpaid medical bills to the list.  

 
The throne of the devil is bolstered by men like you.
You are bringing someone into your life.  At some point you need to behave more responsibly.   If you are not careful your financial burdens can become hers.  Don't ever put a house in your name   keep things separate.  This crap can come back and bite you and possibly her if you comingle your property and finances.  You can hate ne all you want, but don't screw her over.  

 
You are bringing someone into your life.  At some point you need to behave more responsibly.   If you are not careful your financial burdens can become hers.  Don't ever put a house in your name   keep things separate.  This crap can come back and bite you and possibly her if you comingle your property and finances.  You can hate ne all you want, but don't screw her over.  
Your ignorance is a thick porridge that nourishes nobody.

 
I will discuss it with my lady. We probably don't need the insurance since we will be getting a small dog that will be monitored constantly. Worse comes to worse the dog can be put to sleep. I have that same option if I were to get sick. I can just put a bullet in my brain stem.

Welcome to america
hypothetical: your small dog starts throwing up and has diarrhea. continues for 6+ hours. you go to the vet, and they say, "We'll need to admit your doggo for at least an overnight stay, start IVs to re-hydrate, and do MRI/XRays to find out what's causing the symptoms. You're looking at $900 minimum, depending on course of treatment." 

what are you gonna do? 

 
Lol now there's  insurance and paying for a dog but can't afford to go see a psychiatrist or whatever.

Simply the best :lmao:

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hypothetical: your small dog starts throwing up and has diarrhea. continues for 6+ hours. you go to the vet, and they say, "We'll need to admit your doggo for at least an overnight stay, start IVs to re-hydrate, and do MRI/XRays to find out what's causing the symptoms. You're looking at $900 minimum, depending on course of treatment." 

what are you gonna do? 
My gf makes a much better living than I do and her family has substantial money. She would be able to figure something out.

 
hypothetical: your small dog starts throwing up and has diarrhea. continues for 6+ hours. you go to the vet, and they say, "We'll need to admit your doggo for at least an overnight stay, start IVs to re-hydrate, and do MRI/XRays to find out what's causing the symptoms. You're looking at $900 minimum, depending on course of treatment." 

what are you gonna do? 
"Bill me."

 
hypothetical: your small dog starts throwing up and has diarrhea. continues for 6+ hours. you go to the vet, and they say, "We'll need to admit your doggo for at least an overnight stay, start IVs to re-hydrate, and do MRI/XRays to find out what's causing the symptoms. You're looking at $900 minimum, depending on course of treatment." 

what are you gonna do? 
Track record would suggest he'd start a new thread to complain about how society has stacked the deck against pet owners and that he's had lifelong experiences dealing with Veterinarians who have little chance of helping the dog.

That pooch is just too smart.  

 
Track record would suggest he'd start a new thread to complain about how society has stacked the deck against pet owners and that he's had lifelong experiences dealing with Veterinarians who have little chance of helping the dog.

That pooch is just too smart.  
I'd take a vet over an MD any day. They have to cure a dog, a rabbit, a pig, a fish all in the same day.

 
My gf makes a much better living than I do and her family has substantial money. She would be able to figure something out.
do you think she could "...figure something out..." with regard to paying for you to see a psychiatrist for your mental anguish? 

seems like maybe a tad more important than getting a dog. yes?

 
Quint said:
do you think she could "...figure something out..." with regard to paying for you to see a psychiatrist for your mental anguish? 

seems like maybe a tad more important than getting a dog. yes?
She doesn't believe in psychiatry

 
She doesn't believe in psychiatry
so what? 

you believe in it. and you're the one who has said, repeatedly, that you need meds to help battle your anxiety/depression. a psychiatrist will diagnose you, along with providing therapy, and put you on a medication if deemed necessary.

surely, your fiance' and woman you're going to spend the rest of your life with would want you to be mentally and physically healthy. yes? 

 
so what? 

you believe in it. and you're the one who has said, repeatedly, that you need meds to help battle your anxiety/depression. a psychiatrist will diagnose you, along with providing therapy, and put you on a medication if deemed necessary.

surely, your fiance' and woman you're going to spend the rest of your life with would want you to be mentally and physically healthy. yes? 
No I don't. I went through that gauntlet. I'd much rather focus on getting physically healthy again and see if that helps my mind.

 
so what? 

you believe in it. and you're the one who has said, repeatedly, that you need meds to help battle your anxiety/depression. a psychiatrist will diagnose you, along with providing therapy, and put you on a medication if deemed necessary.

surely, your fiance' and woman you're going to spend the rest of your life with would want you to be mentally and physically healthy. yes? 
Well....I said I was desperate and willing to try it again if it was possible. It's not financially feasible.

 
Well....I said I was desperate and willing to try it again if it was possible. It's not financially feasible.
so it's financially feasible to pay out-of-pocket for any kind of emergency for your dog, but getting medical care for yourself is off the table? 

that makes zero sense, especially since, "...[your] gf makes a much better living than I do and her family has substantial money." 

 
so it's financially feasible to pay out-of-pocket for any kind of emergency for your dog, but getting medical care for yourself is off the table? 

that makes zero sense, especially since, "...[your] gf makes a much better living than I do and her family has substantial money." 
How is an occasional, if ever, health expense for a dog comparable to outrageously expensive medical treatment for me on a weekly basis?

 
Sorry. Just trying to offer a bit of insight into dog ownership and care. 

GL 
No need to apologize. I understand where you are coming from. Getting a pet is an investment in my mental health. It's been well documented that pet owners are happier and live longer. My plan is to get healthy, spend time with the woman I love and pets we love. That may help me get back on the right track. If it doesn't I can re-evaluate my options.

I currently live a very socially isolated existence. The quick answer I hear from most is " Get out there and meet people".

That isn't easy for everyone, and I have a question for anyone that would suggest it, " would you want to hang out with me"?

She does want to spend time with me and my dog will too. Despite what people think about me and as crazy as I may be I'm not a person that abuses women and animals. I wouldn't have been with the same woman for over 3 years if I was. A woman who happens to be quite successful, well adjusted and also pretty devoutly religious.

If all goes well I might be able to transition from being a nut to being a somewhat successful eccentric.

 
In case anyone has forgotten, this thread began on June 19 because RnR wanted to ask a medical office worker out. We've covered a lot of ground in nearly three months.

Here's to the next three months! 

 

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