So no possible way a deal gets done next week huh? (1 Viewer)

[jacobo_moses]

Man this totally sucks. Before it officially sucks I want to make sure I'm understanding this right. If Boylan wants to meet with leaders from both sides on the 19th of July. That means there is like a 0% chance a deal gets done next week right? Is that what you guys are getting from this??

Man this makes me

 

[Titans_fan]

Man this totally sucks. Before it officially sucks I want to make sure I'm understanding this right. If Boylan wants to meet with leaders from both sides on the 19th of July. That means there is like a 0% chance a deal gets done next week right? Is that what you guys are getting from this??Man this makes me

It doesn't necessarily mean 0% chance as the two sides will still be meeting and negotiating. According to Schefter over at ESPN.com, the last major hurdle is the rookie wage scale and contract lengths. Both sides agree something needs to be done, but they can't agree on what. Owners want 5-year deals and no more than $20m guaranteed (I think) to avoid high-pick busts sitting on the books. The player argue three years should be enough time to determine "bust" status and they don't want to come down quite that much from last year's $50m guarantee Bradford got.Maybe things get done. We can only hope...

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Zero percent

 

[sihaokills]

We will just have to wait

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Zero percent

Lockouts suck!

 

[D.J.]

I dont think this is right at all. This is boylan drawing a line in the sand. In fact, I think that if they havent made a deal by the meeting on the 19th, then the 19th will not.be settlement talks. It will be boylan giving them one last chance to say a deal is done or he is walking away from them and telling the other judges that no settlement is likely.

I really think that the meeting on the 19th is as much a threat as the 8th circuit saying "make a deal or neither of you will be happy"

I also think, as I said in the other thread, the sides are cloae enough (abd know the other sides position well enough) to 1) know if a deal can be made 2) know what a likely deal will look like and 3) be able to get to the point of a handshake deal in a very short time (probably in a couple of hours). However, both sides are waiting until the last minute to make a final offer that will likely lead to a deal.

If there was no hope, the lawyers wouldnt be writing up a new cba right now. A deal may not be imminent, but its.not unlikely

 

[Tchula]

I thought the whole point of the rookie cap was so that proven veterans could get the paycheck they deserve after their rookie contract. With most of the members of the NFLPA being veterans you'd think they'd be all aboard the rookie cap.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

I dont think this is right at all. This is boylan drawing a line in the sand. In fact, I think that if they havent made a deal by the meeting on the 19th, then the 19th will not.be settlement talks. It will be boylan giving them one last chance to say a deal is done or he is walking away from them and telling the other judges that no settlement is likely. I really think that the meeting on the 19th is as much a threat as the 8th circuit saying "make a deal or neither of you will be happy"I also think, as I said in the other thread, the sides are cloae enough (abd know the other sides position well enough) to 1) know if a deal can be made 2) know what a likely deal will look like and 3) be able to get to the point of a handshake deal in a very short time (probably in a couple of hours). However, both sides are waiting until the last minute to make a final offer that will likely lead to a deal. If there was no hope, the lawyers wouldnt be writing up a new cba right now. A deal may not be imminent, but its.not unlikely

You hit the nail on the ehad with this one!

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Man this totally sucks. Before it officially sucks I want to make sure I'm understanding this right. If Boylan wants to meet with leaders from both sides on the 19th of July. That means there is like a 0% chance a deal gets done next week right? Is that what you guys are getting from this??Man this makes me

It doesn't necessarily mean 0% chance as the two sides will still be meeting and negotiating. According to Schefter over at ESPN.com, the last major hurdle is the rookie wage scale and contract lengths. Both sides agree something needs to be done, but they can't agree on what. Owners want 5-year deals and no more than $20m guaranteed (I think) to avoid high-pick busts sitting on the books. The player argue three years should be enough time to determine "bust" status and they don't want to come down quite that much from last year's $50m guarantee Bradford got.Maybe things get done. We can only hope...

4 years/35m..... next issue?

 

[D.J.]

Man this totally sucks. Before it officially sucks I want to make sure I'm understanding this right. If Boylan wants to meet with leaders from both sides on the 19th of July. That means there is like a 0% chance a deal gets done next week right? Is that what you guys are getting from this??Man this makes me

It doesn't necessarily mean 0% chance as the two sides will still be meeting and negotiating. According to Schefter over at ESPN.com, the last major hurdle is the rookie wage scale and contract lengths. Both sides agree something needs to be done, but they can't agree on what. Owners want 5-year deals and no more than $20m guaranteed (I think) to avoid high-pick busts sitting on the books. The player argue three years should be enough time to determine "bust" status and they don't want to come down quite that much from last year's $50m guarantee Bradford got.Maybe things get done. We can only hope...

4 years/35m..... next issue?

I agree. I think this is probably close to what they settle on too

 

[Kevrunner]

Hopefully John Clayton is right, but who knows:

ESPN's John Clayton estimates that there is a "98 or 99 percent" chance of an NFL labor settlement by Friday.

For over a month now, July 15 has been cited by those covering the talks as the truest deadline. Clayton believes the current stalemate over the length of rookie contracts isn't important enough to kill the entire deal. It should be pointed out that Clayton is deciphering signals here as opposed to reporting. Clayton's hit rate has faded over the past couple of years, but we'll take optimism where we can find it.

Source: ESPN.com

 

[Couch Potato]

Clayton's hit rate has faded over the past couple of years...

Man, ain't that the truth. Ol' worm face used to be money, the one guy I always believed in. Somewhere along the line, though, his good sources dried up or started going to Schefter or something. Clayton has been wrong a lot the last couple years.

 

[Saint]

I think the basic aspect premise is the 15th date has been put out there as the last possible timeframe for teams to still play the preseason games with the schedule as is. To me the real driver is the $200 million the league misses out on if they don't play the first preseason game. For that reason alone, I think a deal gets done by Friday.

 

[CalBear]

Boylan is not really an important player in the negotiations. He has no power to accept or reject suggestions or offers from either side; all he can do is act as an ostensibly neutral third party to facilitate negotiations. That might be valuable, but it also might just get in the way.

It's on the players and the owners to get it done.