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So, what other ways could you cheat in the NFL? (1 Viewer)

Weapon of Mass Instruction

Watch my feet!
Was listening to Mort and he mentioned a few other things:

1. The current video-gate.

2. "Wiring" your interior DLinemen for sound. This way, you hear what the QB is saying, making his audibles, etc., for use in that game but especially the 2nd game in division play. Pretty good.

3. Putting more than 1 Wifi helmeted player in the game (Jeff Fisher pretty much accused either the Patriots or Colts of doing this on his radio show Monday night).

Discuss and expand.

 
Have the ball boy mess with the kicking balls.

Use a snow plow to clear off selected parts of the field to kick a game winning field goal.

Hold/hit opposing WRs getting off the line.

Use the tuck rule to win a playoff game.

What else have the Pats been accused of?

 
according to peter king (was on ESPN radio this afternoon) he was talking to rex ryan before the ravens/colts playoff game last year. He had 4-5 colored cards that he was planning on switching back and forth before each series because he believed that the Colts were stealing play calls, actual quote was that they were the best at it.
From another board
 
The Steelers team doctor was busted in a steroids ring so that can help with stamina and strength, giving your team that little extra to win close games.

 
Some off-the-wall thoughts:

Jiggering the game clock in your home stadium so that you can make it run slightly faster/slower at appropriate times.

Wiring your home field so you can hear what's said in the huddle.

Raking your home field so that it has a slight tilt.

 
Nick Saban last year bought footage from the Jets that showed Brady and only Brady and all the signals he made at the line of scrimmage. The Dolphins later beat the Patriots 21-0.

So you can get a 3rd party to do the cheating, and then just buy it off them.

 
I believe you can only communicate via the QB headset in the huddle. If someone was communicating after they could relay him formation changes from a different vantage point.

I imagine there are also ways to manipulate the salary cap to cheat.

 
From PFT:

The situation regarding the New England Patriots and the allegations/proof that they have stolen defensive signals is unofficially getting weirder.The signal stealing flap is relevant only to defensive signals, since all offensive calls are made by radio. But we're now aware of suspicions/rumors regarding efforts by the Pats to get a leg up as to opposing offenses. Specifically, we're told that it's believed that, during the 2006 season, the Patriots were putting microphones on defensive linemen in order to capture the offensive line calls and the quarterback audibles.Then, the audio and the video of the game would be matched up, and the defensive players would be given the code at halftime.
 
Have the ball boy mess with the kicking balls.Use a snow plow to clear off selected parts of the field to kick a game winning field goal.Hold/hit opposing WRs getting off the line.Use the tuck rule to win a playoff game.What else have the Pats been accused of?
The last two items are not examples of cheating. It is not a team's fault that the refs make, or do not make, the appropriate calls.The snow plow incident is only known because they replay it seemingly every year. I'm sure other teams have done similar things (i.e. dome teams cranking the music, letting it run longer than they should while the visiting team is on offense, etc.).I have not heard of the ball boy thing.
 
Nick Saban last year bought footage from the Jets that showed Brady and only Brady and all the signals he made at the line of scrimmage. The Dolphins later beat the Patriots 21-0.So you can get a 3rd party to do the cheating, and then just buy it off them.
Link to the NFL rule that was violated there?Oh wait, you are just trying to deflect because you think NE is all squeaky clean? :thumbup:
 
Have the ball boy mess with the kicking balls.Use a snow plow to clear off selected parts of the field to kick a game winning field goal.Hold/hit opposing WRs getting off the line.Use the tuck rule to win a playoff game.What else have the Pats been accused of?
The last two items are not examples of cheating. It is not a team's fault that the refs make, or do not make, the appropriate calls.The snow plow incident is only known because they replay it seemingly every year. I'm sure other teams have done similar things (i.e. dome teams cranking the music, letting it run longer than they should while the visiting team is on offense, etc.).I have not heard of the ball boy thing.
Some local reporter idiot here in Nashville made a big stink the one cold playoff game up there that the Pats had warmed their "K" ball before kicking a FG. (or something like that)
 
Have the ball boy mess with the kicking balls.Use a snow plow to clear off selected parts of the field to kick a game winning field goal.Hold/hit opposing WRs getting off the line.Use the tuck rule to win a playoff game.What else have the Pats been accused of?
The last two items are not examples of cheating. It is not a team's fault that the refs make, or do not make, the appropriate calls.The snow plow incident is only known because they replay it seemingly every year. I'm sure other teams have done similar things (i.e. dome teams cranking the music, letting it run longer than they should while the visiting team is on offense, etc.).I have not heard of the ball boy thing.
There were grumblings I believe against the Titans in a playoff game. Allegedly, the ball boy was giving the Pats kickers different balls to kick with and the opposition worse balls to kick with. I believe the kid was supposedly giving the Pats kickers used balls that apparetnly were easier to handle and would travel farther and the opposition was getting out of the box balls that were slippery, harder, and supposedly did not travel as far.Anyone else remember this?
 
Leaving a door open at one end of the stadium when the other team is kicking, but closing it when your team is (classic Giants stadium thing)

Having a secuity guard 'accidentally' stand in front of the play clock when the other team has the ball (Baltimore complained about this against my Bengals last week :bag: )

-QG

 
The snow plow incident is only known because they replay it seemingly every year.
Mmmmkay? :mellow: And why do you suppose they replay it every year?

"The attack on Pearl Harbor only seems like a tragedy because they replay it every year...." :bag:

(sorry to compare significant historical events to comparatively insignificant football plays...it was the only analogy I could think of that was similarly ridiculous...)

 
Have the ball boy mess with the kicking balls.Use a snow plow to clear off selected parts of the field to kick a game winning field goal.Hold/hit opposing WRs getting off the line.Use the tuck rule to win a playoff game.What else have the Pats been accused of?
The last two items are not examples of cheating. It is not a team's fault that the refs make, or do not make, the appropriate calls.The snow plow incident is only known because they replay it seemingly every year. I'm sure other teams have done similar things (i.e. dome teams cranking the music, letting it run longer than they should while the visiting team is on offense, etc.).I have not heard of the ball boy thing.
There were grumblings I believe against the Titans in a playoff game. Allegedly, the ball boy was giving the Pats kickers different balls to kick with and the opposition worse balls to kick with. I believe the kid was supposedly giving the Pats kickers used balls that apparetnly were easier to handle and would travel farther and the opposition was getting out of the box balls that were slippery, harder, and supposedly did not travel as far.Anyone else remember this?
Not this specifically, but if I understood the subtext correctly, the whole reason there's a K-ball official this year is the slippery ball that eluded Romo in Seattle.Before that change, there are a lot of things you could do with K-Balls. I seem to recall MythBusters confirming the possibility that a football filled with helium would fly significantly (but not conspicuously) farther, for a given kick, than one filled with ordinary air.
 
Have the ball boy mess with the kicking balls.Use a snow plow to clear off selected parts of the field to kick a game winning field goal.Hold/hit opposing WRs getting off the line.Use the tuck rule to win a playoff game.What else have the Pats been accused of?
The last two items are not examples of cheating. It is not a team's fault that the refs make, or do not make, the appropriate calls.The snow plow incident is only known because they replay it seemingly every year. I'm sure other teams have done similar things (i.e. dome teams cranking the music, letting it run longer than they should while the visiting team is on offense, etc.).I have not heard of the ball boy thing.
Some local reporter idiot here in Nashville made a big stink the one cold playoff game up there that the Pats had warmed their "K" ball before kicking a FG. (or something like that)
I remember a few years ago a Jets kicker or punter went off on one of the ball boys because he wasn't keeping the footballs warm - I don't recall where they were playing, but it might have been New England. I remember him (the kicker) saying that it was a 'common courtesy,' or some such thing ..Ni
 
morality & integrity vs. legality & rules.

wearing a jersey or logo that is not league approved is against the rules.

- is it cheating?

- is it amoral?

many of the examples given in this thread are not specifically addressed in any rules.

- where they amoral?

- where they cheating?

and whether you support the Patriots on not, be very careful what answer(s) you choose. You could very easily sink whatever side of this argument you are on.

 
The Steelers team doctor was busted in a steroids ring so that can help with stamina and strength, giving your team that little extra to win close games.
Involved in a federal investigation? YesBusted? Not so much.

Steelers Deny Players Received Doctor’s Drugs

By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT

Published: March 1, 2007

There is no proof that a doctor for the Pittsburgh Steelers, who has been questioned by federal agents about his purchase of growth hormone drugs, ever provided or prescribed hormones to any Steelers players, Art Rooney II, the team’s president, said yesterday.

Richard A. Rydze, who is listed as one of six members of the Steelers’ medical team, said Tuesday that federal agents from New York questioned him in December about his purchase in 2006 of about $100,000 worth of human growth hormone from a pharmacy in Florida. That pharmacy is now the subject of a multistate investigation into its online sales of steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs. Rydze said that investigators had urged him to stop using the pharmacy and that he complied.

He is not accused of violating any laws.

Federal agents arrested four people with ties to the Signature Pharmacy in Orlando, Fla., on Tuesday. The pharmacy filled prescriptions written by licensed and unlicensed doctors who never met their purported patients, investigators said.

Rooney said that he telephoned Rydze on Tuesday after hearing about the investigation and also informed National Football League officials. “There is no evidence that Dr. Rydze prescribed or provided any hormone treatments to any of our players,” Rooney said in a statement. “Dr. Rydze has assured me that this has never happened and will never happen.”

Rooney said the Steelers would “continue to monitor this situation to make sure that we can continue to feel confident in our medical staff in this area.”

Rydze said Tuesday that he never prescribed hormones to Steelers players. He did not return phone calls yesterday.

Rydze has worked as a game day doctor for the Steelers for many years, according to a team spokesman, and is also an internist at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.

The medical center said yesterday that it had begun a review into Rydze’s involvement in the federal and state investigation.

“We have initiated our internal review, so at this time we have no further factual information or comment,” said Susan Manko, a medical center spokeswoman.

Rydze won the silver medal in platform diving at the 1972 Olympics in Munich and is a medical examiner for the Federal Aviation Administration and the medical director of the Pittsburgh office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

He is listed as a member of the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, a group that advocates the use of human growth hormone to replace the hormone as it declines with age. The group, which has offices in Chicago and Boca Raton, Fla., tries to advise doctors on how to prescribe the hormone legally.
Rydze was removed from the Steelers medical staff in June.
 
David Yudkin said:
Bad_Mo said:
David Yudkin said:
Have the ball boy mess with the kicking balls.

Use a snow plow to clear off selected parts of the field to kick a game winning field goal.

Hold/hit opposing WRs getting off the line.

Use the tuck rule to win a playoff game.

What else have the Pats been accused of?
The last two items are not examples of cheating. It is not a team's fault that the refs make, or do not make, the appropriate calls.The snow plow incident is only known because they replay it seemingly every year. I'm sure other teams have done similar things (i.e. dome teams cranking the music, letting it run longer than they should while the visiting team is on offense, etc.).

I have not heard of the ball boy thing.
There were grumblings I believe against the Titans in a playoff game. Allegedly, the ball boy was giving the Pats kickers different balls to kick with and the opposition worse balls to kick with. I believe the kid was supposedly giving the Pats kickers used balls that apparetnly were easier to handle and would travel farther and the opposition was getting out of the box balls that were slippery, harder, and supposedly did not travel as far.Anyone else remember this?
Yes, and it was proved to be completely false:''I have talked to (NFL Director of Officiating) Mike Pereira, and that couldn't have possibly been the ball,'' said Greg Aiello, vice president of public relations for the NFL. ''The rules are in place. The kicking ball doesn't even come in from the kicking team's sideline.''

Interestingly, from a Jets blog:

http://www.jetsinsider.net/forums/archive/...hp/t-60202.html

 
Defensive linemen used to vaseline their jerseys to make it harder to be blocked!

Hey how bout it D'back put stickem' on their hands to help them intercept passes - oh wait, that was already done

Pump in noise when the other teams' O is on the field;

Sneak icyhot into the visitors jocks the night before.........

 
Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
From PFT:

The situation regarding the New England Patriots and the allegations/proof that they have stolen defensive signals is unofficially getting weirder.The signal stealing flap is relevant only to defensive signals, since all offensive calls are made by radio. But we're now aware of suspicions/rumors regarding efforts by the Pats to get a leg up as to opposing offenses. Specifically, we're told that it's believed that, during the 2006 season, the Patriots were putting microphones on defensive linemen in order to capture the offensive line calls and the quarterback audibles.Then, the audio and the video of the game would be matched up, and the defensive players would be given the code at halftime.
I can't imagine any pro team would go an entire game without changing up the audibles and line calls. I would expect audibles change frequently during a game, perhaps every series. The idea that audibles stolen in one game would be useful in a second game between the same two teams seems absurd.
 
perry147 said:
patrickmcgroin said:
Hookers sent to the opposing teams hotel rooms the night before a game.
Like NFL players need hookers.
You don't pay them for sex.You pay them to leave and keep quiet about it.eg. Kobe would be better off if he had just gone to see a ho'
 
Sending enough chili to fill the bathtub in the hotel room of an opposing team's RB. :lmao:

 
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