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The willing to trade him would be the biggest hurdle to overcome. The asking price wouldn't be too high even for a guy Deangelo's caliber. What type of leverage would the Panthers have really for a guy in his contract year on a team with no chance of making the playoffs? It makes a lot of sense but the chances of it happening are slim to none for reasons unknown. Marshawn Lynch's value is in the fact he's locked up for chump change through 2012.
I doubt they get a first rounder for Williams.
I know, which is why you are not going to see DWill in a Packers uniform in 2010.
If I'm the Pack I give up a 1st rounder for certain! At worst that pick is going to be in the high 20's. Do you think that the Panthers with little leverage will settle for only that?
Never said we would...but care to tell us why it doesn't make sense?I know, which is why you are not going to see DWill in a Packers uniform in 2010.
Can we quit the talk that Thompson is cheap when it comes to paying players?Its one thing to say he won't give up enough for Williams...and that is likely true.But he has shown if you produce for the Packers, you will get paid.
Funny, that where i think he will end up next season. Although i think it will happen after the season.
Considering the Panthers will likely let him walk this offseason, and the fact the Panthers are in "rebuild" mode, his pricetag might not be ask much as you think.
Most seem to think that DeAngelo won't cost more than a 1st rounder which to me would be a steal. I do understand that Thompson is a cheap sob and wouldn't want to pay Williams what a top 5 RB deserves. If they trade for Lynch is he any better than the guys on his roster now? Lynch couldn't beat out Fred Jackson. As far as a bad PR move...I think most people in Carolina know that this is likely DeAngelo's last season with them and would understand that they need to get something for him. Williams must not be that important anyway to the Panthers as they were handing the ball off to J. Goodson with the game on the line inside the 5 against Tampa.
Yea he's not cheap, he just doesn't like to part with high draft picks for players. More often than not he firmly believes the Packers can get it done with the roster they have. We're a pass heavy offense, so we just need someone serviceable, which is what we have right now. Keep in mind that the Colts were dead last in rushing yards last year, and the Chargers 2nd to last. They both had pretty decent seasons, so no reason for the Packers to go into full blown panic mode. Save that for Chilly and the Vikings..
If they made a deal, it would include a longterm contract. Ginormous IF.
Why can't they work out a new contract for him? Because they don't have the cap room or because you think DeAngelo would rather test the market?
You dont think Lynch is an upgrade over BJackson?
He is a 24 year old top 15 pick with two 1000 yard seasons under his belt behind the Bills offensive line.One word, "Cohesion". A baseball player only has to show up, hit the ball, catch the ball, and throw the ball (Bull Durham anyone?) It's much tougher to adjust to new plays, new schemes, and a new set of teammates. The easiest player to trade midseason in football is the WR, i.e. Braylon Edwards. The route tree hardly ever changes, but blocking schemes for Rbs are ever evolving.
I don't think Lynch is even in the cards. From what I heard over the weekend, the Bills not only want a starter, but also a draft pick. That's ridiculous. They can keep him, and when they're 0-6 then the price will come down. If not, then oh well, they'll get nothing for him.
No I really don't think he is. I could be wrong, but F. Jackson has looked much better imo.You dont think Lynch is an upgrade over BJackson?
Yea he's an upgrade, but I wouldn't give anything more than a 3rd for him..You dont think Lynch is an upgrade over BJackson?
Im glad Thompson does not panic and overpay for a guy like Lynch. Could be a nice play for GB, but don't give up that high of a pick and a starting caliber player.
I agree. And as a Bears fan I am extremely happy that stuff like this very rarely happens cause I would not be happy if the Pack had Williams.I know, which is why you are not going to see DWill in a Packers uniform in 2010.
The Packers need a RB more than the Bills need a 3rd round pick. As a Bills fan, i would rather keep him for anything less than a 3rd.
Fred Jackson looked better than him last year, but Lynch had two 100 yard season in the previous two years. that was behind the worst Oline in the league. Either way though, Frd Jackson and Lynch are both FAR better than Brandon Jackson.No I really don't think he is. I could be wrong, but F. Jackson has looked much better imo.You dont think Lynch is an upgrade over BJackson?He is a 24 year old top 15 pick with two 1000 yard seasons under his belt behind the Bills offensive line.
That makes sense, but the same thing could have been said about Moore, yet Goodson has played alot.
For myself, I meant that Thompson won't give up much in a trade, not anything to do with whether he will reward their existing players.
This! Exactly right. I know in international soccer, my favorite team Real Madrid got a young stud for peanuts this offseason. It is obviously a different sport, but the situation is similar. A young German by the name of Ozil, who is perhaps the most or one of the most talented young midfielders in the game. His price tag should have been around 40 million euros, but instead he went for only 15 million. The reason was that his contract is up next year and the team took the 15 mil instead of nothing as the player would have walked away for free. And this team, Werder Bremen, weren't even in "rebuilding" mode, they needed the services of Ozil quite desperately. For some reason i doubt this will ever happen, but if both teams were thinking clearly it would!The only problem for Green Bay would be the cost to Deangelo himself. They would make the trade if Deangelo signed for a contract extension, since they want him for more years than just 1. However, they would most likely need to give him a hefty raise. So the cost to the Packers would be the first rounder (or whatever they decide in the trade) plus a new contract for Deangelo for a lot more money. Also note that the Packers will have Grant back next year. Not to mention that Deangelo may not even be of much use this year. How long would it take him to learn the plays and get in sycnh with the team?
Lets see what Davidson does with Claussen in there. The logical move is what you are saying. The Davidson move is more passes and more Goodson, while your higher paid AND better RB's watch from the sidelines.
Exactly. It would be awesome but TT will absolutely not pay anything significant for a position he evaluates as replaceable.
I would have thought an RB could catch on to the blocking scheme as easily as a WR could get used to the QB. Also a kicker or punter are much easier to move if anyone wants him.
Now your splitting hairs with the kickers.
You don't know Ted Thompson do you? Giving up draft picks to Ted are like peeling off his own skin.
They didn't trade Peppers either under similar circumstances.I thought last year Peppers for Kampman made sense because Kampman wanted to play in a 4-3 and Peppers said he'd like a 3-4 but it didn't happen.
It's possible but it'd be another hurdle to overcome. The more obstacles the less likely it is to happen.
Because he probably walks next season and they get nothing for him? They hardly play the guy as it is and have him sitting on the bench with the game on the line and thier 3rd string RB in the game taking handoffs from inside the 5.
Somehow these guys retain coaching gigs too. If I was the GM, that would happen once with a stern warning. Davidson wouldn't be OC week 3.
This has nothing to do with fantasy football. 
This has nothing to do with fantasy football. 
