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Sombody please stop JP Losman (1 Viewer)

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I just read that JP Losman isn't afraid to throw against Champ Bailey. :) He said:

Buffalo quarterback J.P. Losman has such confidence in Evans that he vowed to throw to him even if he's locked up against Bailey.

Somebody please get game film of last years Broncos/Cardinals game to JP Losman. Help the poor fella. He doesn't know what he's saying. Somebody quick grab his foot before he shoves it straight in his mouth.

Hey...any of you Buffalo fans...call Marv Levy and tell him to take JP aside and have a talk with him. Show him this letter from last year: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...p;#entry6078810

:lmao: HEY JP, YOUR RECEIVER BEING COVERED BY CHAMP BAILEY IS NOT OPEN! :lmao:

Just throw it at Dre Bly.

Please man...for the love of God.

Here's the article:

Broncos counting on high reward from Bly's gambling ways

By PAT GRAHAM - AP Sports Writer

2007-09-07 02:43

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) -Dre' Bly surveyed the chessboard and pounced on the mistake.

``Oh, yeah,'' the Denver Broncos cornerback screamed after checkmating linebacker Ian Gold in a friendly game inside the locker room Thursday.

Bly plays cornerback just like chess - he sees a window of opportunity and strikes. That's what has made him a two-time Pro Bowler. His 33 interceptions since 1999 are the fourth most in the league.

However, Bly's willingness to take risks also makes him susceptible to giving up a big play now and then.

Yet there's no one Champ Bailey would rather have as his wing man than Bly.

``He's doing great,'' said Bailey, whose Broncos will open up the season Sunday at Buffalo. ``He's done everything I expected him to do. People have to watch out for him.''

The 30-year-old Bly was acquired from Detroit in March for running back Tatum Bell and offensive lineman George Foster. He will replace Darrent Williams, who was killed in a drive-by shooting on New Year's Day in a case that remains unsolved.

It hasn't been a smooth preseason for Bly. Although he intercepted a pass against Dallas, he turned in a forgettable game against Cleveland, giving up big pass plays to different Cleveland receivers.

Bly has struggled with the new schemes brought in by defensive boss Jim Bates. But he's far from alone. The entire defense has been slow in picking up Bates' system.

``When you have a new scheme and new players, there are going to be some struggles,'' explained Bly, an avid chess player in his spare time. ``You want to iron out all of the wrinkles in the preseason; have your struggles then so when the season comes, you can have everything worked out. I was glad we experienced that and struggled like we did because it was a reality check.''

Bates isn't the least bit concerned over Bly's preseason blahs.

``He's doing a good job,'' Bates said. ``He's improving on the practice field. He has a lot of energy and gets his hands on a lot of balls.''

Asked if he expected Bly to see a lot of action against the Bills on Sunday, given that Bailey lurks on the other side, Bates just smiled.

``Oh yes,'' he said. ``He'll definitely see some action.''

That means Bly could spend quite a bit of time covering Bills receiver Lee Evans, who caught 82 passes for 1,292 yards last season. Evans had a franchise-record 265 yards receiving against Houston last November.

``He will be a real challenge,'' Bly said. ``He has incredible speed and the ability to make the big catch. We know their offense revolves around him. To play well, we know he definitely has to be stopped.''

Buffalo quarterback J.P. Losman has such confidence in Evans that he vowed to throw to him even if he's locked up against Bailey.

Bailey's response was simple - bring it on.

``I always want to face the best,'' Bailey said. ``Whoever lines up in front of me, I'll accept that battle. I expect (Losman) to go to his No. 1 guy.''

Bailey wants to be tested. It would be a rare thing. Most quarterbacks see him and go in the other direction.

Even with scarce opportunities, Bailey still has a league-high 18 interceptions over the last two seasons, the most since Everson Walls picked off 18 for Dallas in 1981-82.

He expects his workload to only increase with the arrival of Bly. At least that is what he is hoping.

``It's going to be a challenge every week to go against us,'' Bailey said. ``I mean, who are you going to attack?''

 
If you're afraid to throw the ball at your best WR (who's also one of the best in the NFL) because of who is covering him then you shouldn't be in the NFL.

 
I remember last year when the Broncos played the Colts. During the first quarter Harrison put a move on Bailey and beat him deep only to have Bailey catch up, pass Harrison and almost intercept the pass. Manning barely even looked Harrisons way the rest of the day.

Also I watched the Sunday night game against the Patriots and the Broncos. Brady avoided Bailey like the plague.

I consider Manning and Brady to be the best two QBs in the game and they made it a point not to throw at Bailey. Do you think these two QBs don't belong in the NFL?

 
I remember last year when the Broncos played the Colts. During the first quarter Harrison put a move on Bailey and beat him deep only to have Bailey catch up, pass Harrison and almost intercept the pass. Manning barely even looked Harrisons way the rest of the day. Also I watched the Sunday night game against the Patriots and the Broncos. Brady avoided Bailey like the plague. I consider Manning and Brady to be the best two QBs in the game and they made it a point not to throw at Bailey. Do you think these two QBs don't belong in the NFL?
I think both those QB's had other options to throw to. Who is Losman gonna chuck it to, if not Evans?
 
Evans is a top 10 WR, if JP can put up a 60 yard bomb like he did in preseason no CB in the league can stop it.

Evans TD on Bailey this weekend, take it to the Bank :moneybag:

 
I remember last year when the Broncos played the Colts. During the first quarter Harrison put a move on Bailey and beat him deep only to have Bailey catch up, pass Harrison and almost intercept the pass. Manning barely even looked Harrisons way the rest of the day. Also I watched the Sunday night game against the Patriots and the Broncos. Brady avoided Bailey like the plague. I consider Manning and Brady to be the best two QBs in the game and they made it a point not to throw at Bailey. Do you think these two QBs don't belong in the NFL?
I think both those QB's had other options to throw to. Who is Losman gonna chuck it to, if not Evans?
Checkdown to Lynch, Parrish, Price are serviceable in real life NFL. I think a lot of people are going to be eating their words real soon with regards to Lynch especially Bills O will be top 15 this year
 
I remember last year when the Broncos played the Colts. During the first quarter Harrison put a move on Bailey and beat him deep only to have Bailey catch up, pass Harrison and almost intercept the pass. Manning barely even looked Harrisons way the rest of the day. Also I watched the Sunday night game against the Patriots and the Broncos. Brady avoided Bailey like the plague. I consider Manning and Brady to be the best two QBs in the game and they made it a point not to throw at Bailey. Do you think these two QBs don't belong in the NFL?
Bailey wouldn't catch Evans.
 
We'll see. Bailey is very very good. Probably the best CB in the league. But he does take chances and he does get burned. Last year he didn't get burned quite as often. But in years past he's gotten beaten deep quite a bit because of his risk taking.

And let's look at some of Evans's good games last year:

7 catches for 92 yards again Antoine Winfield

9 catches for 94 yards and 1 TD against Chicago

7 catches for 145 yards and 1 TD again Chris McAllister

Losman to Evans is probably the best deep threat hookup in the game right now. And frankly, that's Bailey's one weakness.

Also, the Denver pass rush could be severely diminished this season and put a lot more pressure on their DBs. I don't care who you are, there isn't a DB in NFL history that can cover a WR if the QB has all day in the pocket.

 
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Reminds me of when Leinart said he wasn't afraid to throw to Champ last season. 2 INTs later, he was singing a different tune.

 
I remember last year when the Broncos played the Colts. During the first quarter Harrison put a move on Bailey and beat him deep only to have Bailey catch up, pass Harrison and almost intercept the pass. Manning barely even looked Harrisons way the rest of the day. Also I watched the Sunday night game against the Patriots and the Broncos. Brady avoided Bailey like the plague. I consider Manning and Brady to be the best two QBs in the game and they made it a point not to throw at Bailey. Do you think these two QBs don't belong in the NFL?
Carson and Chad haven't had too much of a problem with Bailey.
 
Some of you guys have turned Champ Bailey into the best DB in history: I don't see it. And I like confidence in my QB and I like it when my QB has confidence in his WR. This doesn't bother me.

 
He is their best player. If he doesnt get targeted 10 times they will go nowhere. I have seen people beat him. Champ will make you pay if you throw his way enough, but i dont bench any top WR because of who they are playing. It only takes one play to score 14+ points.

 
I remember last year when the Broncos played the Colts. During the first quarter Harrison put a move on Bailey and beat him deep only to have Bailey catch up, pass Harrison and almost intercept the pass. Manning barely even looked Harrisons way the rest of the day. Also I watched the Sunday night game against the Patriots and the Broncos. Brady avoided Bailey like the plague. I consider Manning and Brady to be the best two QBs in the game and they made it a point not to throw at Bailey. Do you think these two QBs don't belong in the NFL?
I think both those QB's had other options to throw to. Who is Losman gonna chuck it to, if not Evans?
This is a large part of it. The other part, would you really want your QB saying "well, I certainly can't throw it to Lee with Champ out there, I'm a scared little ##### of a QB, not a leader, and our team sucks!"
 
He is their best player. If he doesnt get targeted 10 times they will go nowhere. I have seen people beat him. Champ will make you pay if you throw his way enough, but i dont bench any top WR because of who they are playing. It only takes one play to score 14+ points.
exactly. One good move on Champ for Evans to get behind him and its lights out. You're receiver just got 60 yards and a TD. Also, Evans is THE MAN on that offense. He will not be solely ligning up against Champ. As good as Bly is, he ain't Champ. And as good as Champ is, he ain't catching up with Evans if Evans gets past him. This translates into:Nevah Bench Lee Evans! :hophead:
 
I remember last year when the Broncos played the Colts. During the first quarter Harrison put a move on Bailey and beat him deep only to have Bailey catch up, pass Harrison and almost intercept the pass. Manning barely even looked Harrisons way the rest of the day. Also I watched the Sunday night game against the Patriots and the Broncos. Brady avoided Bailey like the plague. I consider Manning and Brady to be the best two QBs in the game and they made it a point not to throw at Bailey. Do you think these two QBs don't belong in the NFL?
Carson and Chad haven't had too much of a problem with Bailey.
Boy...you missed the game last year didn't you? Champ bottled up CJ all game and grabbed one INT thrown in his direction. In fact it was the WR not being covered by Champ (TJ Houshmandzadeh) who had the great game. I think you are refering to the Bengals/Broncos game from a few years ago. In that game Chad got behind Champ because Champ slipped and fell down. Does that even count? Yes there was a good pass or two more that Chad caught, but I remember Champ in that game stepping in front of Chad at the goal line and picking one off. I also remember Chad after that game saying that he used every trick he had against Champ and Champ was still there. Hey man...this is 2007, not 2004
 
I'll be bumping this after Sunday's game. Evans will have a decent day.
Please do...I'll eat my words if I'm wrong....and while you're here Mr Peterson...could you run for about 150y and 2 TDs this Sunday? I'm starting you against the Atlanta Dog killers...er Falcons. And a record breaking rookie season would be nice too.
 
I remember Bailey biting on a Roethlisberger pump fake right before Hines Ward caught a TD in the AFCGC.

Bailey is great, for sure, but climb down off his jock a bit.

 
Some of you guys have turned Champ Bailey into the best DB in history: I don't see it. And I like confidence in my QB and I like it when my QB has confidence in his WR. This doesn't bother me.
If you listen to just about any "NFL expert" on who they think the best CB in the league is, they all say Bailey, bar none. And in an interview with John Lynch..last year?... he said Bailey is the best football he's ever played with...EVER. And he played with Elway... Name another team where a DB is considered the best player on their team...In regards to Evans, you have to play him unless you have much better options at WR. However, if you think that he's going to go for over 100yds and a td, you're sorely mistaken. There is no other CB better in the red zone than Bailey, and Denver already knows that Evans is their only big play threat. You think Bailey will ever risk letting him get behind him, in Buff, on opening day??? :confused:
 
Some of you guys have turned Champ Bailey into the best DB in history: I don't see it. And I like confidence in my QB and I like it when my QB has confidence in his WR. This doesn't bother me.
If you listen to just about any "NFL expert" on who they think the best CB in the league is, they all say Bailey, bar none. And in an interview with John Lynch..last year?... he said Bailey is the best football he's ever played with...EVER. And he played with Elway... Name another team where a DB is considered the best player on their team...In regards to Evans, you have to play him unless you have much better options at WR. However, if you think that he's going to go for over 100yds and a td, you're sorely mistaken. There is no other CB better in the red zone than Bailey, and Denver already knows that Evans is their only big play threat. You think Bailey will ever risk letting him get behind him, in Buff, on opening day??? :mellow:
When did Lynch play with John Elway? :goodposting:
 
Some of you guys have turned Champ Bailey into the best DB in history: I don't see it. And I like confidence in my QB and I like it when my QB has confidence in his WR. This doesn't bother me.
If you listen to just about any "NFL expert" on who they think the best CB in the league is, they all say Bailey, bar none. And in an interview with John Lynch..last year?... he said Bailey is the best football he's ever played with...EVER. And he played with Elway... Name another team where a DB is considered the best player on their team...In regards to Evans, you have to play him unless you have much better options at WR. However, if you think that he's going to go for over 100yds and a td, you're sorely mistaken. There is no other CB better in the red zone than Bailey, and Denver already knows that Evans is their only big play threat. You think Bailey will ever risk letting him get behind him, in Buff, on opening day??? :confused:
When did Lynch play with John Elway? :confused:
They both went to stanford, but i dont think it was at the same time.
 
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Champ Bailey is highly overrated around these parts.

Believe me, Evans will put up numbers on Sunday. I can almost feel the opening PA pass to Evans for a TD right now.

 
Somebody tell JP Losman that if he gets picked off that is just a sign to throw MORE passes to Evans. Shoot for 30 attempts or something in that range. Just throw him the ball!

Oh yeah, I own Evans. :popcorn:

 
Some of you guys have turned Champ Bailey into the best DB in history: I don't see it. And I like confidence in my QB and I like it when my QB has confidence in his WR. This doesn't bother me.
If you listen to just about any "NFL expert" on who they think the best CB in the league is, they all say Bailey, bar none. And in an interview with John Lynch..last year?... he said Bailey is the best football he's ever played with...EVER. And he played with Elway... Name another team where a DB is considered the best player on their team...In regards to Evans, you have to play him unless you have much better options at WR. However, if you think that he's going to go for over 100yds and a td, you're sorely mistaken. There is no other CB better in the red zone than Bailey, and Denver already knows that Evans is their only big play threat. You think Bailey will ever risk letting him get behind him, in Buff, on opening day??? :mellow:
When did Lynch play with John Elway? :football:
They both went to stanford, but i dont think it was at the same time.
1993, week 17?
 
Evans can beat Champ deep IMO. Losman just better not try forcing it on any slants, outs, or any other types of routes that aren't run in a straight line.

 
Some of you guys have turned Champ Bailey into the best DB in history: I don't see it. And I like confidence in my QB and I like it when my QB has confidence in his WR. This doesn't bother me.
If you listen to just about any "NFL expert" on who they think the best CB in the league is, they all say Bailey, bar none. And in an interview with John Lynch..last year?... he said Bailey is the best football he's ever played with...EVER. And he played with Elway... Name another team where a DB is considered the best player on their team...In regards to Evans, you have to play him unless you have much better options at WR. However, if you think that he's going to go for over 100yds and a td, you're sorely mistaken. There is no other CB better in the red zone than Bailey, and Denver already knows that Evans is their only big play threat. You think Bailey will ever risk letting him get behind him, in Buff, on opening day??? :lmao:
When did Lynch play with John Elway? :lmao:
They both went to stanford, but i dont think it was at the same time.
1993, week 17?
He played AGAINST John Elway, but in no way did he play WITH John Elway.Probably the best players that Lynch has played with otherwise are Warren Sapp, Derrick Brooks and Ronde Barber. And they were all very good players in their prime. And Bailey probably IS better than them. But I think that the deification of Bailey is a bit premature. And he's nowhere near the level of a John Elway.
 
The Denver/Buffalo game is going to be a good one. As a former season ticket holder for the Bills, I know for a fact that opening day in Buffalo is going to be buzzing all around. There are some great fans up there in western, NY :lmao: Let's go Buffalo!

 
I heard a stat during a Broncos pre-season game that Bailey had been thrown at about 30 times last season and ended up with 10 INTs. That's a pretty good reason to not throw in his direction.

But I agree. Who is Losman going to throw to besides Evans?

 
I heard a stat during a Broncos pre-season game that Bailey had been thrown at about 30 times last season and ended up with 10 INTs. That's a pretty good reason to not throw in his direction. But I agree. Who is Losman going to throw to besides Evans?
There's no freaking way that stat is right. That means that teams were throwing at Bailey less than twice a game. No way that's true.
 
Bailey is great at jumping routes. If JP has time Evans will get some open looks. Taking your best player out of the game before the first snap is ridiculous.

 
I remember last year when the Broncos played the Colts. During the first quarter Harrison put a move on Bailey and beat him deep only to have Bailey catch up, pass Harrison and almost intercept the pass. Manning barely even looked Harrisons way the rest of the day. Also I watched the Sunday night game against the Patriots and the Broncos. Brady avoided Bailey like the plague. I consider Manning and Brady to be the best two QBs in the game and they made it a point not to throw at Bailey. Do you think these two QBs don't belong in the NFL?
Bailey wouldn't catch Evans.
:popcorn: i think Evans is the fastest game speed receiver in the game today.
 
Where are all you Evans Homers at today...come on out. Post here and you get respect for eating your words.

I TOLD YOU SO

 
Where are all you Evans Homers at today...come on out. Post here and you get respect for eating your words.

I TOLD YOU SO
If JP Losman could throw an accurate bomb, Lee would have had at least one TD catch on the day. He had bailey beat by at least a step but JP overshot him.
 
Where are all you Evans Homers at today...come on out. Post here and you get respect for eating your words.

I TOLD YOU SO
Evans' lack of production didn't have much to do with Champ. It was more because of the safties staying over the top all game.And yes, Evan did burn Champ on the one deep shot they took.

 
Where are all you Evans Homers at today...come on out. Post here and you get respect for eating your words.

I TOLD YOU SO
Evans' lack of production didn't have much to do with Champ. It was more because of the safties staying over the top all game.And yes, Evan did burn Champ on the one deep shot they took.
Perhaps JP Losman was so shaky at the notion of throwing in Champs direction...he actually overthrew it out of sheer nervousness. :popcorn:
 
Where are all you Evans Homers at today...come on out. Post here and you get respect for eating your words.

I TOLD YOU SO
If JP Losman could throw an accurate bomb, Lee would have had at least one TD catch on the day. He had bailey beat by at least a step but JP overshot him.
The only important word in this post is IFIf...the biggest word in the English language.

I am curious however...I did not get to see game. How many times did Losman throw in Bailey's direction (regardless of which WR)?

 

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