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Someday soon, everyone will be a vegetarian (1 Viewer)

E-Z Glider

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The change is coming. If science can make something that tastes better, costs less and has none of the dietary and environmental downsides, why wouldn't you eat it?

The future of food - Plant based meat

Highlights:

More protein than beef, more omegas than salmon, more calcium than milk, more antioxidants than blueberries. Plus muscle-recovery aids. And its vegan.What is meat but a tasty, toothy hunk of protein? Do we really need animals to assemble it for us, or have we reached a stage of enlightenment where we can build machines to do the dirty work for us?

Livestock, in fact, are horribly inefficient at making meat. Only about 3 percent of the plant matter that goes into a steer winds up as muscle. The rest gets burned for energy, ejected as methane, blown off as excess 
heat, shot out the back of the beast, or repurposed into non-meat-like things such as blood, bone, and brains. The process buries river systems in manure and requires an absurd amount of land. Roughly three-fifths of all farmland is used to grow beef, although it accounts for just 5 percent of our protein.

Considering the speed of change, the money and smarts being thrown at the problem, and the desperate need, it seems likely that sometime in the next decade, Beyond Meat or Impossible Foods or another rival will perfect vegetarian beef, chicken, and pork that is tastier, healthier, and cheaper than the fast-food versions of the real thing. It will be a textbook case of disruptive technology: overnight, meat will become the coal of 2025—dirty, uncompetitive, outcast. Our grandchildren will look back on our practice of using caged animals to assemble proteins with the same incredulousness that we apply to our ancestors’ habit of slaughtering whales to light their homes.


 
The carnage of the slaughterhouse is all completely unnecessary for sustenance of technologically advanced mankind.
 
Obviously wont work unless the taste is the same/better. All indications are that it will be. Cant imagine any other argument against this.

 
I have never had anything veggie that was even close to being as good as the meat it was pretending to be.
I eat meat (well not red meat) but my wife is vegetarian. For some reason she loves the fake meat products from Trader Joes :confused: . I have to say that the fake breakfast sausage patties are pretty good. Also on football Sunday, she'll occasionally make these buffalo "wings" using seitan. It's unbelievable but extremely unhealthy. For the most part I do agree with you.

 
Obviously wont work unless the taste is the same/better. All indications are that it will be. Cant imagine any other argument against this.
Seems like the same argument against tofu-dogs. The proponents of it will insist that it tastes just as good as a real hotdog, but its not even close.

I'll try whatever, but I won't hold my breath for this to actually happen.

 
Gates sat down with Brown in 2012 and gave him some tips, which the entrepreneur took to heart. As Brown recalls, “He said to me, ‘If you get this thing to cost less than meat, and you get international quickly enough, then this is huge.’ ”

Whole Foods has enthusiastically sold Beyond Chicken Strips, which retail for $5.29 for a nine-ounce bag, from the very beginning.
Got a long way to go, but it has huge possibilities.

 
somehow the oil companies will lose a percentage of profit because of this and the republicans will once again make sure we cant have a good thing.

 
This has some interesting ramifications. Let's say we DID stop eating meat, and instead eat this produced meat substitute. For a while, PETA and all the vegans would be singing and dancing that we don't have to kill moo's to enjoy our steak dinners, etc.

but...

How long until the purists start protesting "factory foods," and they become the new "meat." I can hear the rally cries of the 2040 hipsters trying to buck the trend ..."Why should we eat meat made in a lab? I want pure, natural meat...from an animal raised on a farm like it should be!"

Some people are never happy.

 
This has some interesting ramifications. Let's say we DID stop eating meat, and instead eat this produced meat substitute. For a while, PETA and all the vegans would be singing and dancing that we don't have to kill moo's to enjoy our steak dinners, etc.

but...

How long until the purists start protesting "factory foods," and they become the new "meat." I can hear the rally cries of the 2040 hipsters trying to buck the trend ..."Why should we eat meat made in a lab? I want pure, natural meat...from an animal raised on a farm like it should be!"

Some people are never happy.
Stupid GMOs. :hot:

 
Obviously wont work unless the taste is the same/better. All indications are that it will be. Cant imagine any other argument against this.
Seems like the same argument against tofu-dogs. The proponents of it will insist that it tastes just as good as a real hotdog, but its not even close.
Ive never heard anyone claim a tofu dog tastes like a hot dog, or that one of those bean patties tastes like a hamburger. This is not like anything that's ever been produced before. Alton Brown said "Most impressive. It's more like meat than anything Ive ever seen that wasn't meat." Bill Gates said "I honestly couldnt tell it from real chicken."

They already have the chicken substitute down, they expect to have ground beef down in another year. As quality improves and prices come down, people will stop eating meat. Our grandkids will think we were savages for eating caged animals and idiots for destroying our bodies and the earth in the process.

 
Yeah. Don't see this happening. First, I don't think they can make it taste better. Second, GMO's aren't very popular now. I can imagine they'd be far less so in that future world. Third, animal populations would get out of control - swine, beef and chicken primarily.

 
Obviously wont work unless the taste is the same/better. All indications are that it will be. Cant imagine any other argument against this.
Seems like the same argument against tofu-dogs. The proponents of it will insist that it tastes just as good as a real hotdog, but its not even close.
Our grandkids will think we were savages for eating caged animals and idiots for destroying our bodies and the earth in the process.
Eating meat does not destroy bodies and the earth.

But avoiding it is bad for the brain, which might be your issue.

 
Obviously wont work unless the taste is the same/better. All indications are that it will be. Cant imagine any other argument against this.
Seems like the same argument against tofu-dogs. The proponents of it will insist that it tastes just as good as a real hotdog, but its not even close.
Ive never heard anyone claim a tofu dog tastes like a hot dog, or that one of those bean patties tastes like a hamburger. This is not like anything that's ever been produced before. Alton Brown said "Most impressive. It's more like meat than anything Ive ever seen that wasn't meat." Bill Gates said "I honestly couldnt tell it from real chicken."

They already have the chicken substitute down, they expect to have ground beef down in another year. As quality improves and prices come down, people will stop eating meat. Our grandkids will think we were savages for eating caged animals and idiots for destroying our bodies and the earth in the process.
How are the steaks, bacon, chicken wings, lamb chops and lobster tail?

 
Obviously wont work unless the taste is the same/better. All indications are that it will be. Cant imagine any other argument against this.
Seems like the same argument against tofu-dogs. The proponents of it will insist that it tastes just as good as a real hotdog, but its not even close.
Our grandkids will think we were savages for eating caged animals and idiots for destroying our bodies and the earth in the process.
Eating meat does not destroy bodies and the earth.

But avoiding it is bad for the brain, which might be your issue.
You guys are all arguing against things that I told you to already assume. Ill say it again. Assume it tastes as good/better than real meat. Assume its healthier for you. Assume its better for the environment. And assume its cheaper. All of these will be true in the next decade. Who will still eat meat?

PS - im not a vegetarian

 
Obviously wont work unless the taste is the same/better. All indications are that it will be. Cant imagine any other argument against this.
Seems like the same argument against tofu-dogs. The proponents of it will insist that it tastes just as good as a real hotdog, but its not even close.
Our grandkids will think we were savages for eating caged animals and idiots for destroying our bodies and the earth in the process.
Eating meat does not destroy bodies and the earth.

But avoiding it is bad for the brain, which might be your issue.
You guys are all arguing against things that I told you to already assume. Ill say it again. Assume it tastes as good/better than real meat. Assume its healthier for you. Assume its better for the environment. And assume its cheaper. All of these will be true in the next decade. Who will still eat meat?

PS - im not a vegetarian
If it tastes better than meat and is cheaper than meat, I will eat it. Happy now?

 
Obviously wont work unless the taste is the same/better. All indications are that it will be. Cant imagine any other argument against this.
Seems like the same argument against tofu-dogs. The proponents of it will insist that it tastes just as good as a real hotdog, but its not even close.
Our grandkids will think we were savages for eating caged animals and idiots for destroying our bodies and the earth in the process.
Eating meat does not destroy bodies and the earth.

But avoiding it is bad for the brain, which might be your issue.
You guys are all arguing against things that I told you to already assume. Ill say it again. Assume it tastes as good/better than real meat. Assume its healthier for you. Assume its better for the environment. And assume its cheaper. All of these will be true in the next decade. Who will still eat meat?

PS - im not a vegetarian
A) I don't buy your assertion that these will all be met in the next ten years, however, if so, to answer your question:

People who distrust genetically altered food.

 
Obviously wont work unless the taste is the same/better. All indications are that it will be. Cant imagine any other argument against this.
Seems like the same argument against tofu-dogs. The proponents of it will insist that it tastes just as good as a real hotdog, but its not even close.
Our grandkids will think we were savages for eating caged animals and idiots for destroying our bodies and the earth in the process.
Eating meat does not destroy bodies and the earth.

But avoiding it is bad for the brain, which might be your issue.
You guys are all arguing against things that I told you to already assume. Ill say it again. Assume it tastes as good/better than real meat. Assume its healthier for you. Assume its better for the environment. And assume its cheaper. All of these will be true in the next decade. Who will still eat meat?

PS - im not a vegetarian
I do not assume anything.

 
Yeah. Don't see this happening. First, I don't think they can make it taste better. Second, GMO's aren't very popular now. I can imagine they'd be far less so in that future world. Third, animal populations would get out of control - swine, beef and chicken primarily.
Agreed with these. Plus, efficiency is not the chief goal of mankind iMO. Cooking, eating, preparing, farming are all enjoyable. Many of these activities are central points of culture. A good life involves both work and rest. Efficiency can be overdone to the point where we quite frankly have nothing worthwhile to actually do (think of the people in Wall-E floating around in chairs with TV screens in front of their faces and food completely and totally instantly available). I know that sounds glorious but honestly leisure and pleasure are only enjoyable when they are contrasted with reasonable work and pain.

I know many don't believe in a 'soul' but even if we call it neuro responses to stimulus the point is 'we' as humans can create and implement shocking, sweeping change long before our brains (and/or souls) can adapt. Hell that's the primary intellectual underpinning to Paleo diet philosophy, which is ironic considering the Paleo proponents would be the most ardent critics and resistors to this type of 'food.'

 
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