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My family is heading to Europe in May. They are doing Rome, Florence, and Paris over 10 days.I want to go with them and my gf, but I do not really want to be with my entire family for the whole trip, and I have little interest in Florence (unless you guys can convince me otherwise).So I was thinking that perhaps I travel with the family to Rome and stay there 3 nights and then when they head to Florence, I go to the South of France with my lady so we can enjoy beaches and whatever the hell else is there. (this is where you come in). Then I can meet back with my family in Paris for the last 2 nights of the trip or so.Have and FBGs been to South of France? What's it like? How does my plan sound?
Paris is a whole trip in itself and that's way too much to try to see in 10 days. Tell your family to just stick to Italy this trip.
Agree and disagree. Europe is a long ways away for most- and it's worth taking in as much as possible. 3 nights per city sounds reasonable, even if not ideal.
 
Don't want to hijack, but any suggestions for a month long excursion through Europe? My girlfriend and I are planning on staying in the south for the most part. The tentative plan right now is something like Athens to Italy (Florence, Rome, Milan) to Croatia then back to Switzerland then finally France and perhaps Germany.

I will be studying abroad for 5 months in Cork, Ireland so the plan is a couple weekend trips to see some of the northern cities (London etc.) Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 
Don't want to hijack, but any suggestions for a month long excursion through Europe? My girlfriend and I are planning on staying in the south for the most part. The tentative plan right now is something like Athens to Italy (Florence, Rome, Milan) to Croatia then back to Switzerland then finally France and perhaps Germany. I will be studying abroad for 5 months in Cork, Ireland so the plan is a couple weekend trips to see some of the northern cities (London etc.) Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Add Spain to the trip.
 
Don't want to hijack, but any suggestions for a month long excursion through Europe? My girlfriend and I are planning on staying in the south for the most part. The tentative plan right now is something like Athens to Italy (Florence, Rome, Milan) to Croatia then back to Switzerland then finally France and perhaps Germany. I will be studying abroad for 5 months in Cork, Ireland so the plan is a couple weekend trips to see some of the northern cities (London etc.) Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Add Spain to the trip.
Yeah, a stop in Barcelona is a necessity.
 
Don't want to hijack, but any suggestions for a month long excursion through Europe? My girlfriend and I are planning on staying in the south for the most part. The tentative plan right now is something like Athens to Italy (Florence, Rome, Milan) to Croatia then back to Switzerland then finally France and perhaps Germany. I will be studying abroad for 5 months in Cork, Ireland so the plan is a couple weekend trips to see some of the northern cities (London etc.) Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Add Spain to the trip.
Yeah, a stop in Barcelona is a necessity.
My favorite city in Spain is Madrid but lots of people skip it since it is out of the way if you are doing a Mediterian based trip. However, you can't miss all of Spain on a trip like that so Barcelona is a good substitute. I was back there this summer after having not been there in a decade and still enjoyed the city.
 
Don't want to hijack, but any suggestions for a month long excursion through Europe? My girlfriend and I are planning on staying in the south for the most part. The tentative plan right now is something like Athens to Italy (Florence, Rome, Milan) to Croatia then back to Switzerland then finally France and perhaps Germany. I will be studying abroad for 5 months in Cork, Ireland so the plan is a couple weekend trips to see some of the northern cities (London etc.) Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Don't go anywhere that isn't worth staying for a few days at least. You can spend half your time traveling if you try to go to too many places.
 
So I talked to my aunt and got the dates etc. Here is what I am thinking:

May 7 - 10 Rome

May 10 - 14 TBA

May 14 - 16 Paris.

So I have 4 nights to do something in between Rome and Paris.

 
So I talked to my aunt and got the dates etc. Here is what I am thinking:May 7 - 10 RomeMay 10 - 14 TBAMay 14 - 16 Paris.So I have 4 nights to do something in between Rome and Paris.
I'd say Cannes - good food, good beach - when I went it was Memorial Day weekend time frame and the weather was fine for the beach. You can take a train from Cannes and do Provence for a day trip too if you want.
 
So I talked to my aunt and got the dates etc. Here is what I am thinking:May 7 - 10 RomeMay 10 - 14 TBAMay 14 - 16 Paris.So I have 4 nights to do something in between Rome and Paris.
I'd say Cannes - good food, good beach - when I went it was Memorial Day weekend time frame and the weather was fine for the beach. You can take a train from Cannes and do Provence for a day trip too if you want.
What's in Provence?
 
If travelling from Italy I would recommend:Monaco (25%) --> Nice (15%) --> Cannes (60%)Not sure how long you are going, I had the most fun in Cannes, best beaches etc. Never really visited Nice, just traveled through there. Monaco is pretty cool to check out but it is tiny. Last time I was there the Grand Prix was going on.Provence is pretty cool, your girl might like it, walled city, old France type tourist stuff if you are into that. :goodposting:
We are flying into Milan and I think we'll be staying in Monaco for 5 nights and then 5 nights in Florence. We have a car for the trip so we plan on driving quite a bit.By the way, anyone know a decent, cheap place to stay near the Milan airport? Looks like something big is going on in Milan that has a lot of places booked and we need a hotel near the airport the night before (April 13) we fly back.
 
So I talked to my aunt and got the dates etc. Here is what I am thinking:

May 7 - 10 Rome

May 10 - 14 TBA

May 14 - 16 Paris.

So I have 4 nights to do something in between Rome and Paris.
I'd say Cannes - good food, good beach - when I went it was Memorial Day weekend time frame and the weather was fine for the beach. You can take a train from Cannes and do Provence for a day trip too if you want.
What's in Provence?
My girlfriend wanted to go, it has a lot of history:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provence

more:

http://www.transparent.com/french/provence-terre-insolite/

It was a long time ago, you might want to get better info. as to where exactly to go, seems like a big region when I look on a map, for some reason I remember cobblestones and like a walled city, but I might be confused.

 
My family is heading to Europe in May. They are doing Rome, Florence, and Paris over 10 days.I want to go with them and my gf, but I do not really want to be with my entire family for the whole trip, and I have little interest in Florence (unless you guys can convince me otherwise).So I was thinking that perhaps I travel with the family to Rome and stay there 3 nights and then when they head to Florence, I go to the South of France with my lady so we can enjoy beaches and whatever the hell else is there. (this is where you come in). Then I can meet back with my family in Paris for the last 2 nights of the trip or so.Have and FBGs been to South of France? What's it like? How does my plan sound?
Paris is a whole trip in itself and that's way too much to try to see in 10 days. Tell your family to just stick to Italy this trip.
Skip Paris, take the 52 minute train ride to Champagne region, visit the houses where winegrowers and co-operatives who not only welcome visitors but speak English!, drink a lot of bubbles, drunken train ride back, and get the family to pick you up.Find the growers who grow the grapes and make their own champagne. If you're gonna spend money on a bottle of the real stuff, support the farmer fizz
 
Don't want to hijack, but any suggestions for a month long excursion through Europe? My girlfriend and I are planning on staying in the south for the most part. The tentative plan right now is something like Athens to Italy (Florence, Rome, Milan) to Croatia then back to Switzerland then finally France and perhaps Germany. I will be studying abroad for 5 months in Cork, Ireland so the plan is a couple weekend trips to see some of the northern cities (London etc.) Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Get a Europass.
 
Florence is dope. I liked it way more than Rome. Paris is my favorite city.

I'd love to visit southern France someday.

That's all.

 
Changed the plan so we are skipping Monaco and spending longer in Florence (9 nights) so we can do day trips around there. We're renting the car the entire trip so the parking fees (50 EUR??) and tolls weren't going to make it worth it. We are also going to spend a couple of nights in Venice.

 
May is the wrong time for beaches. Monaco is hoity toity the casinos are there but unles you're a James bond type, aka you packed a pimp suit, forget it. The things about Europe that bring me the most Joy, are the tiny little towns that I end up visiting. Often times by accident.

One of my favorite memories from my trip to France last summer is the day after the culmination of my trip, which was centered round the tour de france. We were driving down from the pryenees, and a MASSIVE lightning/thunder/rain storm hit. My wife and I holed up in a tiny bar in a town, whose name I don't remember, hung out with the owner, drank beer and ate fabulous little local delicacies, shot the #### in spanglofranoanglais, and had the time of our lives.

So.....to sum it up, start the trip with the family, and then do your own thing. If that's big cites, museums, art, history, etc. Then go do that. If your thing is low key mellow "experience the native culture" then just let your car go where it will, be open to meeting people and you'll have a great time.

 
Change in plans. Instead of going with my entire family on their trip in May, I think I may just do Italy in September (labor days) with my GF and maybe a few friends instead.

I'm thinking the length of the trip will be something like 10 days. Is that enough time?

I definitely want to do Rome for at least 3 days and then something like Ischia, Posatano, to relax etc. for the remainder.

My goals are to see and take in much of the history, architecture and innovation of ancient Rome and also to experience Italian culture and cuisine (although I have an aversion to seafood). I do not want to do like a resort type thing really.

Thoughts and recommendations?

 
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Change in plans. Instead of going with my entire family on their trip in May, I think I may just do Italy in September (labor days) with my GF and maybe a few friends instead.I'm thinking the length of the trip will be something like 10 days. Is that enough time?I definitely want to do Rome for at least 3 days and then something like Ischia, Posatano, to relax etc. for the remainder.My goals are to see and take in much of the history, architecture and innovation of ancient Rome and also to experience Italian culture and cuisine (although I have an aversion to seafood). I do not want to do like a resort type thing really. Thoughts and recommendations?
Between Rome, Florence and Venice, that's going to be a full 10 days. Or bag Venice (which really is worth seeing) and put the time into Tuscany (also worth seeing) or Cinque Terre or Amalfi Coast or... soooooo much to see. You're going to miss stuff no matter what you do, but you're in a win/win with getting to see amazing things with 10 days instead of a few.
 
For a first time trip, I would recommend the touristy thing and do Venice, Florence and Rome. And if you start in Venice I would recommend your own private water taxi to the city. It's worth the extra money and is the most amazing way to get your first exposure to Italy. Entering Venice from the water is unbelievable and will be much better alone with your GF than a crowd of people.

 
For a first time trip, I would recommend the touristy thing and do Venice, Florence and Rome. And if you start in Venice I would recommend your own private water taxi to the city. It's worth the extra money and is the most amazing way to get your first exposure to Italy. Entering Venice from the water is unbelievable and will be much better alone with your GF than a crowd of people.
:bag:
 
So we're thinking of going to South of France next year. We want to avoid the summer and are looking at possibly September. Seems like it still might be nice enough to walk along the beaches (not really looking to lay around the beach) without all the packed crowds. Thinking of staying in Provence, probably for 5-7 days. Can we do the Rhone valley as a day trip? How about San Remo? Provence seems like a good place to be centrally located.

 
So we're thinking of going to South of France next year. We want to avoid the summer and are looking at possibly September. Seems like it still might be nice enough to walk along the beaches (not really looking to lay around the beach) without all the packed crowds. Thinking of staying in Provence, probably for 5-7 days. Can we do the Rhone valley as a day trip? How about San Remo? Provence seems like a good place to be centrally located.
Depends on where you want to go in Rhone. Southern Rhone which is a lot like Provenance is definately doabble. Where did you think you would set up base?
 
So we're thinking of going to South of France next year. We want to avoid the summer and are looking at possibly September. Seems like it still might be nice enough to walk along the beaches (not really looking to lay around the beach) without all the packed crowds. Thinking of staying in Provence, probably for 5-7 days. Can we do the Rhone valley as a day trip? How about San Remo? Provence seems like a good place to be centrally located.
Depends on where you want to go in Rhone. Southern Rhone which is a lot like Provenance is definately doabble. Where did you think you would set up base?
Somewhere in Provence. Maybe Aix-en-Provence. Not looking for anything in particular in Rhone, just driving around a better wine country.
 
Just booked our 20th anniversary trip in mid-September.

Flying into Paris. We've been there twice but will stay the night.

Driving to Lyon - spending two days

Driving to Aix-en-Provence - spending 3 days as a base for day trips.

Driving to Nice - spending 3 days probably in Nice but also a train to Monte Carlo one day.

Driving to Milan and spending the night.

any must sees on the drives? Planning on taking our time through Burgundy before Lyon and hitting St.Tropez and Cannes on the ride to Nice.

Avignon, Nimes and Arles are planned day trips to far. Maybe Marseille. Not sure if we'd get as far as Montpellier

 
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I was in Aix for about 3+ months once, loooooooovvvvveed it. Got around Provence, Arles, Cassis, Orange, Avignon, the Rhone, the local Calanques, down to Nice, Frejus, Tropez, Why am I here? Dunno, really it's indefensible.

 
I was in Aix for about 3+ months once, loooooooovvvvveed it. Got around Provence, Arles, Cassis, Orange, Avignon, the Rhone, the local Calanques, down to Nice, Frejus, Tropez, Why am I here? Dunno, really it's indefensible.
Very psyched for this trip. Our original plan was Australia but it just didn't seem doable with only 10 days, especially with the price of the flights and travel distance. We're going to hold off, hopefully for our 25th, and look for 3 weeks.

 
Maybe Marseille. Not sure if we'd get as far as Montpellier
I don't know why Marseille doesn't get more love. It's in a pretty remarkable location for a big city. The coastline there is pretty awesome.
Good to hear. It's so close to Aix, I don't see why we won't make it there. Depends how much we love Aix and how much we get to see west towards Avignon/Arles

 
Maybe Marseille. Not sure if we'd get as far as Montpellier
I don't know why Marseille doesn't get more love. It's in a pretty remarkable location for a big city. The coastline there is pretty awesome.
Can be a bit of a rough city though...

... beautiful down by the port and tons of history, incredible train station (gare), plus one gorgeous huge cathedral, but it's ... tough. I would say just be careful where you go or be aware in certain areas, especially with a wife and children.

ETA: also great food, very different.

 
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Maybe Marseille. Not sure if we'd get as far as Montpellier
I don't know why Marseille doesn't get more love. It's in a pretty remarkable location for a big city. The coastline there is pretty awesome.
Can be a bit of a rough city though...

... beautiful down by the port and tons of history, incredible train station (gare), plus one gorgeous huge cathedral, but it's ... tough. I would say just be careful where you go or be aware in certain areas, especially with a wife and children.

ETA: also great food, very different.
Thanks for the head's up. We travel a lot, no kids, and are usually pretty alert but it's good to know.

 
sounds like such a great trip....
We're actually both more excited by this than when we were planning to go to Australia. I think it was the right call.

And since it's our 20th, we've really gone all out on the hotels. Some pretty incredible rooms.

 
I've spent a little time in France and consider Marsielle to be eminently skippable.

Nice is nice but wholley molley that is a scene. Jaw dropping beauty & wealth, great high end shopping. I'd recommend a short trip to Villafrance - nothing special, just a sleepy village, but it's a nice downtime laid back place, go there for lunch. You'll love Monaco.

Should be a great trip!

 
I've spent a little time in France and consider Marsielle to be eminently skippable.

Nice is nice but wholley molley that is a scene. Jaw dropping beauty & wealth, great high end shopping. I'd recommend a short trip to Villafrance - nothing special, just a sleepy village, but it's a nice downtime laid back place, go there for lunch. You'll love Monaco.

Should be a great trip!
Hmmm...I haven't looked that close at Marseille but will now. Thanks for the Villafrance tip. I know nothing about it but it sounds like a nice change of pace.

 
Is Sanremo a nice spot to stop for lunch on our drive from Nice to Milan?

Something better along that route? Not looking to stop in Genoa.

 
Just booked our 20th anniversary trip in mid-September.

Flying into Paris. We've been there twice but will stay the night.

Driving to Lyon - spending two days

Driving to Aix-en-Provence - spending 3 days as a base for day trips.

Driving to Nice - spending 3 days probably in Nice but also a train to Monte Carlo one day.

Driving to Milan and spending the night.

any must sees on the drives? Planning on taking our time through Burgundy before Lyon and hitting St.Tropez and Cannes on the ride to Nice.

Avignon, Nimes and Arles are planned day trips to far. Maybe Marseille. Not sure if we'd get as far as Montpellier
I think you are spending too much time in Nice. I lived there for some amount of time and it's pretty, but it's more of a british resort town and lacks the feel of the area.

If you are ending up in Milan you would do better to do two nights in Cinque Terra.

If you do stop in Nice there are still some great side trips. It's just not somewhere I'd do 3 days again.

Avignon is a tough day trip. There is a lot to cover there. Arles is a perfect day trip. Nimes is worth doing for a quick hit.

 
I'm not going to push CT too hard, but I'll say this. I've spent damn near 6 months now travelling Europe and my very best memories came from there.

Yes, it's well worn by rick steves followers now, but it still has plenty of charm left.

Easy drive from Nice.

 
Just booked our 20th anniversary trip in mid-September.

Flying into Paris. We've been there twice but will stay the night.

Driving to Lyon - spending two days

Driving to Aix-en-Provence - spending 3 days as a base for day trips.

Driving to Nice - spending 3 days probably in Nice but also a train to Monte Carlo one day.

Driving to Milan and spending the night.

any must sees on the drives? Planning on taking our time through Burgundy before Lyon and hitting St.Tropez and Cannes on the ride to Nice.

Avignon, Nimes and Arles are planned day trips to far. Maybe Marseille. Not sure if we'd get as far as Montpellier
I think you are spending too much time in Nice. I lived there for some amount of time and it's pretty, but it's more of a british resort town and lacks the feel of the area.

If you are ending up in Milan you would do better to do two nights in Cinque Terra.

If you do stop in Nice there are still some great side trips. It's just not somewhere I'd do 3 days again.

Avignon is a tough day trip. There is a lot to cover there. Arles is a perfect day trip. Nimes is worth doing for a quick hit.
Thanks for the tips but we're locked in on everything. I'll make sure to keep Avignon on it's own day trip. That might knock out Marseilles.

We've been to Cinque Terra as well as Milan. Milan just worked for the flight home. We loved it there and are looking forward to spending the last half day there.

We'll have a car in Nice still so day trips are still possible if we feel like it by that point. I'm thinking of leaving the car and taking a train to Monte Carlo for a day. Good idea?

Definitely want to see Nimes for the Pont du Gard. Big fan of aqueducts and that one looks amazing.

 
Just booked our 20th anniversary trip in mid-September.

Flying into Paris. We've been there twice but will stay the night.

Driving to Lyon - spending two days

Driving to Aix-en-Provence - spending 3 days as a base for day trips.

Driving to Nice - spending 3 days probably in Nice but also a train to Monte Carlo one day.

Driving to Milan and spending the night.

any must sees on the drives? Planning on taking our time through Burgundy before Lyon and hitting St.Tropez and Cannes on the ride to Nice.

Avignon, Nimes and Arles are planned day trips to far. Maybe Marseille. Not sure if we'd get as far as Montpellier
I think you are spending too much time in Nice. I lived there for some amount of time and it's pretty, but it's more of a british resort town and lacks the feel of the area.

If you are ending up in Milan you would do better to do two nights in Cinque Terra.

If you do stop in Nice there are still some great side trips. It's just not somewhere I'd do 3 days again.

Avignon is a tough day trip. There is a lot to cover there. Arles is a perfect day trip. Nimes is worth doing for a quick hit.
Thanks for the tips but we're locked in on everything. I'll make sure to keep Avignon on it's own day trip. That might knock out Marseilles.

We've been to Cinque Terra as well as Milan. Milan just worked for the flight home. We loved it there and are looking forward to spending the last half day there.

We'll have a car in Nice still so day trips are still possible if we feel like it by that point. I'm thinking of leaving the car and taking a train to Monte Carlo for a day. Good idea?

Definitely want to see Nimes for the Pont du Gard. Big fan of aqueducts and that one looks amazing.
fyi, nimes and pont du gard are fairly well isolated from eachother.

Day trips out of Nice are Grasse and Biot.

I would do evenings in Antibes and Cannes. Monte Carlo is a meh. Only if you are in to the TMZ lifestyle or something like that.

 
Just booked our 20th anniversary trip in mid-September.

Flying into Paris. We've been there twice but will stay the night.

Driving to Lyon - spending two days

Driving to Aix-en-Provence - spending 3 days as a base for day trips.

Driving to Nice - spending 3 days probably in Nice but also a train to Monte Carlo one day.

Driving to Milan and spending the night.

any must sees on the drives? Planning on taking our time through Burgundy before Lyon and hitting St.Tropez and Cannes on the ride to Nice.

Avignon, Nimes and Arles are planned day trips to far. Maybe Marseille. Not sure if we'd get as far as Montpellier
I think you are spending too much time in Nice. I lived there for some amount of time and it's pretty, but it's more of a british resort town and lacks the feel of the area.

If you are ending up in Milan you would do better to do two nights in Cinque Terra.

If you do stop in Nice there are still some great side trips. It's just not somewhere I'd do 3 days again.

Avignon is a tough day trip. There is a lot to cover there. Arles is a perfect day trip. Nimes is worth doing for a quick hit.
Thanks for the tips but we're locked in on everything. I'll make sure to keep Avignon on it's own day trip. That might knock out Marseilles.

We've been to Cinque Terra as well as Milan. Milan just worked for the flight home. We loved it there and are looking forward to spending the last half day there.

We'll have a car in Nice still so day trips are still possible if we feel like it by that point. I'm thinking of leaving the car and taking a train to Monte Carlo for a day. Good idea?

Definitely want to see Nimes for the Pont du Gard. Big fan of aqueducts and that one looks amazing.
Definitely Avignon over Marseilles. And Arles is pretty, albeit not as spectacular - they have (non-lethal) bullfights in a real Roman coliseum, and it's one of the painting sites for Van Gogh.

As a side fyi there are also some great wineries/vinyards/chateaus over there, including Chateau Neuf de Pape; those can be fun, needless to say you can also get loaded. The countryside is beautiful.

Also when in that area seek out caves (pronounced "cahve") - these are wine cellars in towns and outside of towns where wine stock is kept; ask the locals they know the good one or two that are best and go in and enjoy, typically the owner is a local guy who will help you gain some "experience" in the tasting of the local stuff and you can also get wineskins or bottles to go.

 
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Wife, friend and his wife decided to do Paris and French Riviera in a summer or 2. Going to do June to avoid the madness. Thinking Nice but worried it might be too over the top. Anyone ever been to Menton, Toulon or Sainte Maxime?

 
Wife, friend and his wife decided to do Paris and French Riviera in a summer or 2. Going to do June to avoid the madness. Thinking Nice but worried it might be too over the top. Anyone ever been to Menton, Toulon or Sainte Maxime?
Was in France over New Years for a wedding. We took a train from Paris to Marseilles, then took the train along the coast from Marseilles to Toulon, where the wedding was. Wow, that is some beautiful country. Mountains on one side and amazing coastline on the other. We were in Toulon for just a couple days, but the people, culture, scenery were all just fantastic.

 
Wife, friend and his wife decided to do Paris and French Riviera in a summer or 2. Going to do June to avoid the madness. Thinking Nice but worried it might be too over the top. Anyone ever been to Menton, Toulon or Sainte Maxime?
Was in France over New Years for a wedding. We took a train from Paris to Marseilles, then took the train along the coast from Marseilles to Toulon, where the wedding was. Wow, that is some beautiful country. Mountains on one side and amazing coastline on the other. We were in Toulon for just a couple days, but the people, culture, scenery were all just fantastic.
I'm looking to do a summer beach deal so obviously you didn't see that. Sounds like you really enjoyed everything you did see. Thanks!

 

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