Specter says "there was filming" (1 Viewer)

[fatness]

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U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter was a guest on Rush Limbaugh's radio show today, and at the end of the interview, the subject turned to Specter's investigation of the New England Patriots.

Limbaugh asked Specter whether any new information has emerged about Matt Walsh, the former Patriots employee who may or may not have filmed the Rams' final walkthrough practice before the 2002 Super Bowl. This is the pertinent exchange:

SEN. SPECTER: The NFL is discouraging Walsh from coming forward.

RUSH: Really? Because their statements are just exact opposite.

SEN. SPECTER: Well, the NFL says they're trying to encourage them, and I issued the challenge to the commissioner a couple of Saturdays ago, and they put out a Sunday release that they were making substantial progress. Well, we've had almost two weeks since that Sunday release, and nothing has happened.

RUSH: Lot of football fans in this audience. Since the Super Bowl we've heard very little about this guy in Hawaii, Matt Walsh, that claims to have videotape of the New England Patriots and the St. Louis Rams walk through the Saturday before their Super Bowl. What's the status of that?

SEN. SPECTER: Well, the status of it is that there has been an exchange of correspondence between Walsh's lawyers and the NFL lawyers. I've seen the letters. Walsh's lawyer let me see them on a promise of confidentiality, and I believe an objective and fair reading of those letters is that the NFL is discouraging Walsh from coming forward.

RUSH: Really? Because their statements are just exact opposite.

SEN. SPECTER: Well, the NFL says they're trying to encourage them, and I issued the challenge to the commissioner a couple of Saturdays ago, and they put out a Sunday release that they were making substantial progress. Well, we've had almost two weeks since that Sunday release, and nothing has happened. I believe those... Listen, I think the NFL has a duty of integrity. They have an anti-trust exemption, which gives them a preferred position. They are role models. If you can cheat in the NFL, you can cheat in college or high school or sixth grade math test. I think ultimately, Rush, if we get enough fire under it, they're going to have to show those letters -- and when they do, they're going to have to change their tune and let Walsh testify, because those reports are looking pretty strong, but there was filming for the 2002 Super Bowl.

Full Transcript of Interview at Rush Limbaugh's site.From PFT:

Those last eight words are, in our view, the bombshell. Specter said on Limbaugh’s show, which is heard by millions throughout the country, that “there was filming for the 2002 Super Bowl.”

Was there? The Boston Herald reported that there was. The team has denied it. Walsh has said nothing.

Maybe Specter misspoke. Maybe he meant to say “that” instead of “but”. Or maybe he didn’t. Either way, it’s a bold claim from Specter, and it makes us even more anxious to hear what Walsh has to say. Because one way or the other this thing isn’t going away until we hear from Walsh.

 

[TBIST]

I <3 Rush Limbaugh

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Specter is a boob and if I see him on the street I would punch him right in the mouff.

Bests know how to fight, the dude is a 3rd degree Blackbelt.So I would re-think this.

 

[Toads]

Specter is a boob and if I see him on the street I would punch him right in the mouff.

Bests know how to fight, the dude is a 3rd degree Blackbelt.So I would re-think this.

Some prety serious statements...sooon to be alligations, then fact, then consequence....coming to a theater near you.?Be interesting to see how this play's out. My guess is that we're seeing the beginning of the PAT's downward spiral.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Specter is a boob and if I see him on the street I would punch him right in the mouff.

Bests know how to fight, the dude is a 3rd degree Blackbelt.So I would re-think this.

I dont think I would have much trouble with my buddy Arlen. I've fought blackbelts before. That blackbelt doesnt do them a whole lot of good when they are on their ###.

Please don't piss in the Shark Pool. Please keep all discussion of beating up politicians in either the FFA or the Obama forum.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Arlen Spector

Rush Limbaugh

Matt Walsh

That is all I have to say.

 

[flufhed]

Arlen SpectorRush LimbaughMatt WalshThat is all I have to say.

So you believe Arlen Spector is lying outright about this? I am a lib through and through, but what difference does it make that he used the Rush Limbaugh forum to state this?

 

[Chachi]

I disregard anything Rush Limbaugh says or is said on his show. NON STORY.

 

[streamkeeper]

I think that is too big of a statement for Spector to vocalize without some legitimacy. It is his reputation on the line, not Rush's.

I don't want to to see this happen to the NFL.

 

[Das Boot]

Arlen SpectorRush LimbaughMatt WalshThat is all I have to say.

Thank goodness there are people not letting this get swept under the rug in spite of pressure from the NFL.

 

[SteelerMurf]

Arlen SpectorRush LimbaughMatt WalshThat is all I have to say.

My question is why does Rush have Spector on at all. He can't stand Spector. Spector is one or two votes away from being a pure democrat.

 

[SteelerMurf]

I disregard anything Rush Limbaugh says or is said on his show. NON STORY.

You obviously have never listened to Rush. Sure he says some inflaming things, but most of the things he predicts is dead nuts correct 95% of the time.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Note to self: Never show anything to Arlen Specter on the promise of confidentiality.

 

[twitch]

The guy is going on every show he can right now peddling his book. And he's using arguably the hottest sports team in America as his front. How people are still so thick headed or simply unwilling to grasp that simple concept is a whole new breed of hooliganism.

 

[fatness]

How people are still so thick headed or simply unwilling to grasp that simple concept is a whole new breed of hooliganism.

Not everyone promoting a book suddenly speaks only lies.

 

[Chachi]

I disregard anything Rush Limbaugh says or is said on his show. NON STORY.

You obviously have never listened to Rush. Sure he says some inflaming things, but most of the things he predicts is dead nuts correct 95% of the time.

Way Wrong, Please play again.

 

[cstu]

Specter is a boob and if I see him on the street I would punch him right in the mouff.

Bests know how to fight, the dude is a 3rd degree Blackbelt.So I would re-think this.

No surprise that a Pats fan would punch an 80 year old guy in mouth is it?

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Specter is a boob and if I see him on the street I would punch him right in the mouff.

Bests know how to fight, the dude is a 3rd degree Blackbelt.So I would re-think this.

 

[Liquid Tension]

I disregard anything Rush Limbaugh says or is said on his show. NON STORY.

You obviously have never listened to Rush. Sure he says some inflaming things, but most of the things he predicts is dead nuts correct 95% of the time.

Where is that brainwashing avatar?So has Rush started his campaign to formerly endorse Obama or Hillary yet? He said he would endorse and support them if McCain won the election as the Republican candidate.

 

[SuperJohn96]

FWIW, he was also on Howard Stern promoting his book, but didn't really get into the NFL.

So I wouldn't go so far as to lay this on Rush.

 

[Godsbrother]

I disregard anything Rush Limbaugh says or is said on his show. NON STORY.

You obviously have never listened to Rush. Sure he says some inflaming things, but most of the things he predicts is dead nuts correct 95% of the time.

Ummm, okay.A big mega-ditto to you, GB

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Arlen Spector

Rush Limbaugh

Matt Walsh

That is all I have to say.

My question is why does Rush have Spector on at all. He can't stand Spector. Spector is one or two votes away from being a pure democrat.

How awful.

 

[Bri]

SEN. SPECTER: Well, the status of it is that there has been an exchange of correspondence between Walsh's lawyers and the NFL lawyers. I've seen the letters. Walsh's lawyer let me see them on a promise of confidentiality,

He's there representing America/Congress. Signing any agreement to keep info about america's favorite sport from Americans is a terrible move IMO. I'm a bit miffed that a member of congress would do such a thing. I don't see how America gains from him signing that and he works for us.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

SEN. SPECTER: Well, the status of it is that there has been an exchange of correspondence between Walsh's lawyers and the NFL lawyers. I've seen the letters. Walsh's lawyer let me see them on a promise of confidentiality,

He's there representing America/Congress. Signing any agreement to keep info about america's favorite sport from Americans is a terrible move IMO. I'm a bit miffed that a member of congress would do such a thing. I don't see how America gains from him signing that and he works for us.

I feel your pain. From the perspective of those who clamor for a spanish inquisition, it's an unfortunate consequence that his desire to keep his name in the limelight is starting to undermine his "righteous indignation". His signature is a confession to his agenda.

 

[Banger]

SEN. SPECTER: Well, the status of it is that there has been an exchange of correspondence between Walsh's lawyers and the NFL lawyers. I've seen the letters. Walsh's lawyer let me see them on a promise of confidentiality,

He's there representing America/Congress. Signing any agreement to keep info about america's favorite sport from Americans is a terrible move IMO. I'm a bit miffed that a member of congress would do such a thing. I don't see how America gains from him signing that and he works for us.

I feel your pain. From the perspective of those who clamor for a spanish inquisition, it's an unfortunate consequence that his desire to keep his name in the limelight is starting to undermine his "righteous indignation". His signature is a confession to his agenda.

If there's nothing there there's nothing to worry about...

 

[Workhorse]

Can anyone explain how Specter is privvy to details of the negotiations between Walsh's high-priced DC attorney and the NFL?

 

[GregR_2]

Can anyone explain how Specter is privvy to details of the negotiations between Walsh's high-priced DC attorney and the NFL?

Didn't Specter explain it pretty clearly?

SEN. SPECTER: Well, the status of it is that there has been an exchange of correspondence between Walsh's lawyers and the NFL lawyers. I've seen the letters. Walsh's lawyer let me see them on a promise of confidentiality, and I believe an objective and fair reading of those letters is that the NFL is discouraging Walsh from coming forward.

One side chose to share the correspondence from the negotiations with him.

 

[Banger]

Can anyone explain how Specter is privvy to details of the negotiations between Walsh's high-priced DC attorney and the NFL?

Because they've probably spoken with Specter and described the holdups.

 

[Workhorse]

Can anyone explain how Specter is privvy to details of the negotiations between Walsh's high-priced DC attorney and the NFL?

Didn't Specter explain it pretty clearly?

SEN. SPECTER: Well, the status of it is that there has been an exchange of correspondence between Walsh's lawyers and the NFL lawyers. I've seen the letters. Walsh's lawyer let me see them on a promise of confidentiality, and I believe an objective and fair reading of those letters is that the NFL is discouraging Walsh from coming forward.

One side chose to share the correspondence from the negotiations with him.

I asked the question to make a point.(1) Doesn't sound very "confidential" to me.

(2) Why is Walsh's attorney so cozy with Specter?

 

[Liquid Tension]

I disregard anything Rush Limbaugh says or is said on his show. NON STORY.

You obviously have never listened to Rush. Sure he says some inflaming things, but most of the things he predicts is dead nuts correct 95% of the time.

Where is that brainwashing avatar?So has Rush started his campaign to formerly endorse Obama or Hillary yet? He said he would endorse and support them if McCain won the election as the Republican candidate.

 

[TheFanatic]

How people are still so thick headed or simply unwilling to grasp that simple concept is a whole new breed of hooliganism.

Not everyone promoting a book suddenly speaks only lies.

Didn't we all dismiss Canseco as lying his butt off while he was peddling his book? Sometimes there is some truth behind the book. Still haven't seen anyone sue Canseco.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

How people are still so thick headed or simply unwilling to grasp that simple concept is a whole new breed of hooliganism.

Not everyone promoting a book suddenly speaks only lies.

Didn't we all dismiss Canseco as lying his butt off while he was peddling his book? Sometimes there is some truth behind the book. Still haven't seen anyone sue Canseco.

This is true. It is also so that sometimes there is NOT truth behind the book.Still waiting for something substantative to come to light...

 

[twitch]

How people are still so thick headed or simply unwilling to grasp that simple concept is a whole new breed of hooliganism.

Not everyone promoting a book suddenly speaks only lies.

Didn't we all dismiss Canseco as lying his butt off while he was peddling his book? Sometimes there is some truth behind the book. Still haven't seen anyone sue Canseco.

I dont know about you, but I didnt dismiss Canseco's book as anything. I knew the guy was a steroids user, was pretty sure McGurire was a steroids user, was pretty sure there were many, many other steroids users in baseball, and understood that Canseco had knowledge of something. Im not comparing these 2 situations simply because there's a book involved. Arlen Specter is the one writing the book. Does he either play professional football or is he intimately involved in the sport in any way, shape or form? Let's leave this particular meaningless connection out of the discussion.

 

[Ghost Rider]

The guy is going on every show he can right now peddling his book. And he's using arguably the hottest sports team in America as his front. How people are still so thick headed or simply unwilling to grasp that simple concept is a whole new breed of hooliganism.

Are you referring to the Patriots as the hottest sports team in America? Ya know, the same Patriots who haven't won a title in over three years?

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I disregard anything Rush Limbaugh says or is said on his show. NON STORY.

You obviously have never listened to Rush. Sure he says some inflaming things, but most of the things he predicts is dead nuts correct 95% of the time.

goodnight now.

 

[twitch]

The guy is going on every show he can right now peddling his book. And he's using arguably the hottest sports team in America as his front. How people are still so thick headed or simply unwilling to grasp that simple concept is a whole new breed of hooliganism.

Are you referring to the Patriots as the hottest sports team in America? Ya know, the same Patriots who haven't won a title in over three years?

Just check the ratings. Do that and let me know who's a bigger draw in sports right now.

 

[treat88]

How awful.

It is if you run as a Republican and the people intended to elect a Republican.The NFL sure seems reticent to allow the facts of the matter to come out.Geez, just grant the guy immunity and see what he's got.Let the merit of the case stand or fall, but let the facts come out.All I get out of the situation so far is that Spector and Goodell both have ulterior motives not based on ethics.Who knows about Walsh and the Pats?

 

[Ghost Rider]

The guy is going on every show he can right now peddling his book. And he's using arguably the hottest sports team in America as his front. How people are still so thick headed or simply unwilling to grasp that simple concept is a whole new breed of hooliganism.

Are you referring to the Patriots as the hottest sports team in America? Ya know, the same Patriots who haven't won a title in over three years?

Just check the ratings. Do that and let me know who's a bigger draw in sports right now.

Oh, so now ratings dictate what team or player is the hottest in sports now? And you do realize that the Patriots games were rated so highly last year because everyone was wanting to watch them because of either, the fact that they got caught cheating or because of their run for 19-0. In years past, Patriots games were not rated that highly, when compared to those of other NFL teams.

 

[twitch]

The guy is going on every show he can right now peddling his book. And he's using arguably the hottest sports team in America as his front. How people are still so thick headed or simply unwilling to grasp that simple concept is a whole new breed of hooliganism.

Are you referring to the Patriots as the hottest sports team in America? Ya know, the same Patriots who haven't won a title in over three years?

Just check the ratings. Do that and let me know who's a bigger draw in sports right now.

Oh, so now ratings dictate what team or player is the hottest in sports now? And you do realize that the Patriots games were rated so highly last year because everyone was wanting to watch them because of either, the fact that they got caught cheating or because of their run for 19-0. In years past, Patriots games were not rated that highly, when compared to those of other NFL teams.

dude, you cant seriously be arguing such a simple and obvious point.

 

[fatness]

(1) Doesn't sound very "confidential" to me.(2) Why is Walsh's attorney so cozy with Specter?

(3) Why is Goodell so cozy with the Patriots?

 

[Road Warriors]

(1) Doesn't sound very "confidential" to me.

(2) Why is Walsh's attorney so cozy with Specter?

(3) Why is Goodell so cozy with the Patriots?

Because the attack that Specter has launched, while naming the Patriots, is aimed squarely at the NFL at large. Goodell's best interests are served by protecting the NFL from Specter, and that gives the impression that he is protecting the Patriots.So... care to answer 1 & 2?

 

[twitch]

(1) Doesn't sound very "confidential" to me.(2) Why is Walsh's attorney so cozy with Specter?

(3) Why is Goodell so cozy with the Patriots?

how many buddies do you have that rob you of a million bucks and valuable assets, and suggest that theyre possibly not done? get outta here with that jabber.Do we think he's closer to one of his league's premier money makers and better lead teams than some Senator selling a book? Uh, yeah. Calling the related parties cozy though is like calling a red-hot burner cool compared to hot molten lava.

 

[fatness]

So... care to answer 1 & 2?

(1) I guess Specter should have destroyed the evidence, right?(2) Because the NFL and Patriots are trying to intimidate Walsh into shutting up, and Specter knows it.

 

[Ghost Rider]

The guy is going on every show he can right now peddling his book. And he's using arguably the hottest sports team in America as his front. How people are still so thick headed or simply unwilling to grasp that simple concept is a whole new breed of hooliganism.

Are you referring to the Patriots as the hottest sports team in America? Ya know, the same Patriots who haven't won a title in over three years?

Just check the ratings. Do that and let me know who's a bigger draw in sports right now.

Oh, so now ratings dictate what team or player is the hottest in sports now? And you do realize that the Patriots games were rated so highly last year because everyone was wanting to watch them because of either, the fact that they got caught cheating or because of their run for 19-0. In years past, Patriots games were not rated that highly, when compared to those of other NFL teams.

dude, you cant seriously be arguing such a simple and obvious point.

If your point is that the Patriots are the hottest team in sports right now, which they aren't, then it is a point worth discussing/debating/arguing.

 

[twitch]

The guy is going on every show he can right now peddling his book. And he's using arguably the hottest sports team in America as his front. How people are still so thick headed or simply unwilling to grasp that simple concept is a whole new breed of hooliganism.

Are you referring to the Patriots as the hottest sports team in America? Ya know, the same Patriots who haven't won a title in over three years?

Just check the ratings. Do that and let me know who's a bigger draw in sports right now.

Oh, so now ratings dictate what team or player is the hottest in sports now? And you do realize that the Patriots games were rated so highly last year because everyone was wanting to watch them because of either, the fact that they got caught cheating or because of their run for 19-0. In years past, Patriots games were not rated that highly, when compared to those of other NFL teams.

dude, you cant seriously be arguing such a simple and obvious point.

If your point is that the Patriots are the hottest team in sports right now, which they aren't, then it is a point worth discussing/debating/arguing.

Who is it, man? Just tell me who it is.

 

[Pat Patriot]

How awful.

It is if you run as a Republican and the people intended to elect a Republican.The NFL sure seems reticent to allow the facts of the matter to come out.

Geez, just grant the guy immunity and see what he's got.

Let the merit of the case stand or fall, but let the facts come out.

All I get out of the situation so far is that Spector and Goodell both have ulterior motives not based on ethics.

Who knows about Walsh and the Pats?

Based on what is coming out of Boston, it isnt that easy. The Patriots say that there isnt a confidentiality agreement with Walsh so there should be no problem, right? Wrong. The NFL cannot grant the guy immunity from criminal prosecution. If part of his evidence is taped conversations with various members of the Patriots organization, that is against Massachusetts law and Walsh could go to jail for that. If Walsh has stolen from the Patriots, that is against the law as well.If Walsh has anything at all, it is possible that we may never see it because it was unlawfully obtained. Walsh cant supply evidence that is going to implicate him in a criminal charge. The NFL cannot give him immunity for that. I have seen that if he stole tapes that the NFL could claim that the tapes are ultimately their possession to skirt any criminal charge but if Walsh taped conversations, the NFL can do nothing to give him immunity from those criminal charges.

 

[Workhorse]

So... care to answer 1 & 2?

(1) I guess Specter should have destroyed the evidence, right?(2) Because the NFL and Patriots are trying to intimidate Walsh into shutting up, and Specter knows it.

That doesn't answer anything. Why is Walsh's attorney giving confidential information about the ongoing negotiations between his client and the league to Arlen Specter? And why is Specter then leaking that confidential info to the media?I've got my own suspicions but I'm curious to hear yours.

 

[Ghost Rider]

The guy is going on every show he can right now peddling his book. And he's using arguably the hottest sports team in America as his front. How people are still so thick headed or simply unwilling to grasp that simple concept is a whole new breed of hooliganism.

Are you referring to the Patriots as the hottest sports team in America? Ya know, the same Patriots who haven't won a title in over three years?

Just check the ratings. Do that and let me know who's a bigger draw in sports right now.

Oh, so now ratings dictate what team or player is the hottest in sports now? And you do realize that the Patriots games were rated so highly last year because everyone was wanting to watch them because of either, the fact that they got caught cheating or because of their run for 19-0. In years past, Patriots games were not rated that highly, when compared to those of other NFL teams.

dude, you cant seriously be arguing such a simple and obvious point.

If your point is that the Patriots are the hottest team in sports right now, which they aren't, then it is a point worth discussing/debating/arguing.

Who is it, man? Just tell me who it is.

How about the San Antonio Spurs? Three titles in the last five years, two of which they have won since the last time the Patriots won a Super Bowl. And despite their recent struggles, they are still one of the top contenders to win it all again this year. And the fact that they are a small market team that doesn't draw big ratings doesn't mean squat. They are still a hot team over the last few years, relatively speaking. Or how about the Boston Red Sox, who have won two of their last four World Series'?

Regardless, calling a team that hasn't won the championship in their sport the last THREE seasons "the hottest team in sports right now" is just laughable, and using ratings to back it up is even more laughable. That's like saying the Lakers are one of the hottest teams in sports right now because they won three titles earlier this decade, and because they always draw the most ratings among NBA teams.

 

[twitch]

The guy is going on every show he can right now peddling his book. And he's using arguably the hottest sports team in America as his front. How people are still so thick headed or simply unwilling to grasp that simple concept is a whole new breed of hooliganism.

Are you referring to the Patriots as the hottest sports team in America? Ya know, the same Patriots who haven't won a title in over three years?

Just check the ratings. Do that and let me know who's a bigger draw in sports right now.

Oh, so now ratings dictate what team or player is the hottest in sports now? And you do realize that the Patriots games were rated so highly last year because everyone was wanting to watch them because of either, the fact that they got caught cheating or because of their run for 19-0. In years past, Patriots games were not rated that highly, when compared to those of other NFL teams.

dude, you cant seriously be arguing such a simple and obvious point.

If your point is that the Patriots are the hottest team in sports right now, which they aren't, then it is a point worth discussing/debating/arguing.

Who is it, man? Just tell me who it is.

How about the San Antonio Spurs? Three titles in the last five years, two of which they have won since the last time the Patriots won a Super Bowl. And despite their recent struggles, they are still one of the top contenders to win it all again this year. And the fact that they are a small market team that doesn't draw big ratings doesn't mean squat. They are still a hot team over the last few years, relatively speaking. Or how about the Boston Red Sox, who have won two of their last four World Series'?

Regardless, calling a team that hasn't won the championship in their sport the last THREE seasons "the hottest team in sports right now" is just laughable, and using ratings to back it up is even more laughable. That's like saying the Lakers are one of the hottest teams in sports right now because they won three titles earlier this decade, and because they always draw the most ratings among NBA teams.

Are you really this stubborn to not have the slightest clue as to what I would mean by HOT? HOT as in interesting, thought provoking, even polarizing, possessing an ability to generate attention and thus sales and reveune. The Spurs obviously do not qualify. The point of the discussion is driven by the selling of a book. Youre suggesting that a subject pertaining to the San Antonio Spurs would be useful in selling a book that people would otherwise not have the slightest interest in. Cmon, man. Jump back on board this thing. I know you dont really mean to insult either us like this. Im letting that one go, because I understand where youre coming from. But that's obviously not the even the same the same 'book' let alone the same 'page' Im on.

 

[Interseptopus]

Please don't piss in the Shark Pool. Please keep all discussion of beating up politicians in either the FFA or the Obama forum.

This thread has quickly turned into bashing of Rush and Specter...

Based on what is coming out of Boston, it isnt that easy. The Patriots say that there isnt a confidentiality agreement with Walsh so there should be no problem, right? Wrong. The NFL cannot grant the guy immunity from criminal prosecution. If part of his evidence is taped conversations with various members of the Patriots organization, that is against Massachusetts law and Walsh could go to jail for that. If Walsh has stolen from the Patriots, that is against the law as well.If Walsh has anything at all, it is possible that we may never see it because it was unlawfully obtained. Walsh cant supply evidence that is going to implicate him in a criminal charge. The NFL cannot give him immunity for that. I have seen that if he stole tapes that the NFL could claim that the tapes are ultimately their possession to skirt any criminal charge but if Walsh taped conversations, the NFL can do nothing to give him immunity from those criminal charges.

However, that doesn't prevent the NFL from imposing further penalties on the Patriots. Doesn't matter if Walsh stole or not, the NFL is not bound by the same rules as the governmentThis is more than NFL vs Walsh vs Patriots.... this is Walsh vs Patriots vs. United States Government.I can definately see Goodell wanting to cover this up as much as possible:1) it puts a negative spot light on the NFL2) his butt could be on the line3) you don't want government getting involved in anything...like the saying goes "less is more"The NFL cannot grant him immunity, only the US Government can. And even so, granting him immunity may be letting the only guy they can prosecute go. Who's to say that Walsh didn't film on his own? A lot of reasonable doubt can be had.However, let's say he made copies of tapes that NE asked him to record... that's where it gets fuzzy, and unfortunately my fiance (lawyer), is not here to really clear stuff up for me... nor do I want to ask and get a 15 minute long answer when a simple "yes or no" would suffice This is a lot more complicated than most of us can comprehend. What may finally happen is that the NFL will see what Walsh has, will most likely sweep it under the rug and hope that it goes away in time. However, I would definately like to see the Patriots lose all their draft picks for 2008, though given the draft is a few weeks away, and how slow this thing has moved since Walsh came forward, I really doubt that will happen (though he should have just done that in the first place)