Your List Of QBs Good Enough To Get To And Win A Super Bowl (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

It seems to me job one for a NFL GM is find a QB good enough that they can get to and win a Super Bowl.

Obviously, that doesn't mean the guy has to carry a team on his back to a Super Bowl like Patrick Mahomes.

Every QB has lots of help. From the offense and defense. But the question is this QB good enough to get to and win a Super Bowl.

The top guys are easy. But the discussion usually gets interesting on the lower end of the list.

So let's do lists.

What's your list of QBs good enough to get to and win a Super Bowl?

 

[Anarchy99]

Mahomes.

 

[ChicoCat]

I don't want to say by himself, as the Chiefs D carried a lot of water in last years Super Bowl run....., but to me, there's only one QB who could be THE GUY and win a Super Bowl (that is...go on a playoff run and then win the Super Bowl) primarily on his back...and that's Mahomes.

I think Mahomes might be the only QB right now who makes lesser players better around him; everyone else needs better players around them to upjump their game; even a little.

Next closest and almost there is probably Josh Allen. He just hasn't won it.

 

[renesauz]

Not sure how to even make this list. Baltimore won once with Trent Dilfer....who is probably a little better then the memes and scorn he received over his career, but was an average NFL starting QB in his BEST year. Manning in Denver had the worst arm in the league that year. I realize his brain made up for a lot of it but the end result was a QB who was average at best.

The further you go down the list the better the support system needs to be. But the cutoff would be at least 15 deep.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

For me the question is less 'Which QB is good enough' and more so 'Which team and coaches are good enough to take a mediocre QB to the SB'.

The list of QB's good enough to overcome a lesser team and not optimal coaching is very small. You can't even really say Mahomes because his only HC so far has been Andy Reid who is GOAT level. He probably is good enough but maybe not, can't say for absolute certain.

I think there's a good 8ish teams who could realistically win the SB right now.

 

[Joe Bryant]

And to be clear, the question isn't "Good enough by themselves to win a Super Bowl".

Right now, that's probably only Mahomes and Josh Allen.

I'm talking about the QBs who are good enough on an excellent team to get to and win a Super Bowl.

 

[Joe Bryant]

For me the question is less 'Which QB is good enough' and more so 'Which team and coaches are good enough to take a mediocre QB to the SB'.

The list of QB's good enough to overcome a lesser team and not optimal coaching is very small. You can't even really say Mahomes because his only HC so far has been Andy Reid who is GOAT level. He probably is good enough but maybe not, can't say for absolute certain.

I think there's a good 8ish teams who could realistically win the SB right now.

Agree for sure with the dynamic of team and coaches along with the QB.

That's a slightly different discussion as it's what you said, "What teams could win a super bowl this year?"

I'm asking it more in the is "Baker Mayfield, Dak Prescott, Jared Goff good enough to get to and win a Super Bowl?"

 

[Anarchy99]

And to be clear, the question isn't "Good enough by themselves to win a Super Bowl".

Right now, that's probably only Mahomes and Josh Allen.

I'm talking about the QBs who are good enough on an excellent team to get to and win a Super Bowl.

Given that the only active starting QB to get to and win a SB are Mahomes, Stafford, and Rodgers, it’s hard to pin down who might be able to do it. I don’t have a ton of confidence in Allen, Burrow, or Jackson in the AFC. And I have less confidence in Prescott, Purdy, Goff, and Hurts in the NFC. Based on that, there will be an AFC squad that will get to the AFCCG and an NFC team that will get to the SB. But I wouldn’t give those teams a great shot to beat KC short of a key injury or some fluke outcome.

 

[Joe Bryant]

And to be clear, the question isn't "Good enough by themselves to win a Super Bowl".

Right now, that's probably only Mahomes and Josh Allen.

I'm talking about the QBs who are good enough on an excellent team to get to and win a Super Bowl.

Given that the only active starting QB to get to and win a SB are Mahomes, Stafford, and Rodgers, it’s hard to pin down who might be able to do it. I don’t have a ton of confidence in Allen, Burrow, or Jackson in the AFC. And I have less confidence in Prescott, Purdy, Goff, and Hurts in the NFC. Based on that, there will be an AFC squad that will get to the AFCCG and an NFC team that will get to the SB. But I wouldn’t give those teams a great shot to beat KC short of a key injury or some fluke outcome.

Which, if any, of Mayfield, Prescott and Goff do you think are good enough to get to and win a Super Bowl?

 

[SoBeDad]

By the end of the year, Stroud could be on the list. He is the youngest QB to win a playoff game and has continued where he left off last year.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

I'm asking it more in the is "Baker Mayfield, Dak Prescott, Jared Goff good enough to get to and win a Super Bowl?"

I'm having a hard time separating the two things in my head tbh mate.

I'm assuming the question is abstract, are these players theoretically good enough to do it regardless of their current team circumstances. For me, yes, they definitely could if their respective teams were good enough. I don't think any of those three are notably different to Brock Purdy and he was close enough last season to feel like he could have won it.

I guess you are asking something more specific, ie given their current respective teams, are these QB's currently good enough to win a SB. I don't know about that one. I feel less confident about it.

 

[ChicoCat]

And to be clear, the question isn't "Good enough by themselves to win a Super Bowl".

Right now, that's probably only Mahomes and Josh Allen.

I'm talking about the QBs who are good enough on an excellent team to get to and win a Super Bowl.

Goff and Prescott can win the Super Bowl with the teams they currently have. Baker cannot. He could if he were on one of the top teams in the league.

 

[Anarchy99]

And to be clear, the question isn't "Good enough by themselves to win a Super Bowl".

Right now, that's probably only Mahomes and Josh Allen.

I'm talking about the QBs who are good enough on an excellent team to get to and win a Super Bowl.

Given that the only active starting QB to get to and win a SB are Mahomes, Stafford, and Rodgers, it’s hard to pin down who might be able to do it. I don’t have a ton of confidence in Allen, Burrow, or Jackson in the AFC. And I have less confidence in Prescott, Purdy, Goff, and Hurts in the NFC. Based on that, there will be an AFC squad that will get to the AFCCG and an NFC team that will get to the SB. But I wouldn’t give those teams a great shot to beat KC short of a key injury or some fluke outcome.

Which, if any, of Mayfield, Prescott and Goff do you think are good enough to get to and win a Super Bowl?

I already answered by picking none of them. As currently constituted, I don't see another team that has the talent, roster construction, defense, post season experience, coaching, and a big game QB to win 3 or 4 games in the post season besides KC and Mahomes. The Chiefs are the modern version of NE / Brady / BB . . . except we haven't found their kryptonite (ie, NE had the Mannings). If the Chiefs were healthy, I would take them vs. the field to win the SB. The SB they lost, their OL was riddled with injuries. There really aren't QBs or teams that have shown they can consistently win in the post season.

IMO, it would take another team to knock out the Chiefs for any of those teams to win. However, I am not convinced that if a team somehow eliminated the Chiefs that that team would be the clear favorite to win the title (like CIN a few years ago). IMO, the Chiefs are the equivalent of the Bulls with Jordan in the 90s. Which team would people have picked as the one that was going to take down Chicago?

 

[5-ish Finkle]

"I'm talking about the QBs who are good enough on an excellent team to get to and win a Super Bowl."

If they're the QB for an "excellent team", then just about anyone is probably "good enough" by this definition. Freaking Elvis Grbac, Trent Dilfer, and Joe Flacco have been carried to SB rings. I imagine plenty of other mediocre QBs are "good enough to be carried" to one too. Anyone outside the true "dregs of humanity" at the position is probably able (at least mathmatically) to ride an excellent team to a SB win if things break correctly.

I fail to see what the value of admitting/deducing that might be, though, if that's the exercise. "Having a QB who doesn't totally poop in his pants might be good enough to win you a SB if he's surrounded by excellent teammates." Great?

Easier to list which current starting QBs aren't good enough to do what you're asking, IMO: Will Levis, Daniel Jones, Bryce Young, Gardner Minshew, Deshaun Watson, Jacoby Brisset, Russell Wilson (they still claim he's the starter) and Sam Darnold probably aren't "Trent Dilfering" anyone to win a SB. Too early to tell on a few guys, like the 2024 rookies (except Bo Nix. That dude looks awful) and perhaps Tony Richardson. Everyone else? They're probably at least "good enough to get a carry", in a given year with excellent teams around them.

I'd rather just have a Mahomes and not have to worry about also having to build a generational defense/whatever to have a hope at a championship. Particularly in the modern NFL. "Hero QBs" are king.

 

[Gatorade]

And to be clear, the question isn't "Good enough by themselves to win a Super Bowl".

Right now, that's probably only Mahomes and Josh Allen.

I'm talking about the QBs who are good enough on an excellent team to get to and win a Super Bowl.

Given that the only active starting QB to get to and win a SB are Mahomes, Stafford, and Rodgers, it’s hard to pin down who might be able to do it. I don’t have a ton of confidence in Allen, Burrow, or Jackson in the AFC. And I have less confidence in Prescott, Purdy, Goff, and Hurts in the NFC. Based on that, there will be an AFC squad that will get to the AFCCG and an NFC team that will get to the SB. But I wouldn’t give those teams a great shot to beat KC short of a key injury or some fluke outcome.

Which, if any, of Mayfield, Prescott and Goff do you think are good enough to get to and win a Super Bowl?

Goff is good enough to get there and seems to have a good enough, but still young, team to win it. Prescott has had a good enough team to get there before, but can't seem to take the next step when the pressure is on. Mayfield is the wildcard. Not the same team that Brady had, but close. He seems to have matured and greatly improved. Defense would have to dominate to get him a SB win.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Easier to list which current starting QBs aren't good enough to do what you're asking, IMO: Will Levis, Daniel Jones, Bryce Young, Gardner Minshew, Deshaun Watson, Jacoby Brisset, Russell Wilson (they still claim he's the starter) and Sam Darnold probably aren't "Trent Dilfering" anyone to win a SB. Too early to tell on a few guys, like the 2024 rookies (except Bo Nix. That dude looks awful) and perhaps Tony Richardson. Everyone else? They're probably at least "good enough to get a carry", in a given year with excellent teams around them.

Sure, that's likely a longer list, though.

On specifics, which, if any, of Mayfield, Prescott and Goff do you think are good enough to get to and win a Super Bowl?

 

[Joe Bryant]

I'd rather just have a Mahomes and not have to worry about also having to build a generational defense/whatever to have a hope at a championship. Particularly in the modern NFL. "Hero QBs" are king.

You and 31 other NFL teams!

 

[Long Ball Larry]

"what traits make a QB good enough to win a super bowl?" would be an interesting question to answer in service of this question.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

On specifics, which, if any, of Mayfield, Prescott and Goff do you think are good enough to get to and win a Super Bowl?

Already answered.

 

[travdogg]

I think this is a fundamentally flawed question, and that any good QB is good enough to win a Super Bowl, as long as things go right for them. Now, there are certain QBs, who can carry a team on their backs, but often those guys don't ever win Super Bowls, Marino being the go-to example there.

So, I guess, I don't see this question as being all that different than, "Who are the best QBs in the NFL?"

Do I think Dak Prescott or Jared Goff could win a Super Bowl? Absolutely. But they need more to go right around him, than someone like Josh Allen does, as he's more likely to single handedly carry a team.

 

[Capella]

Baker cannot. He could if he were on one of the top teams in the league.

He is and they are winning the nfc.

 

[jon_mx]

Some teams are elevated by a QB to win a Super Bowl, other teams are great teams that can win with a medicroe QB. Chicago and Baltimore won with Defense. Goff is good enough to win a Super Bowl, but he is not going to elevate the team. I don't buy the narrative that you can only win if you have one of the chosen QBs.

 

[davidwb]

Well, these guys have been Super Bowl winning QBs:
Phil Simms
Doug Williams
Jeff Hostetler
Mark Rypien
Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Joe Flacco
Nick Foles

Mayfield, Prescott, and Goff would fit into this list. So, I would say that any of them could win it.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Active QBs that have been in one already:

Mahomes
Stafford
Burrow
Hurts
Goff
Rodgers
Purdy
Jimmy G
R. Wilson

 

[greenmountaingoat]

It's easier to bracket the talent level of the QB regardless of the team IMO. Super bowl shmooper bowl.

1. Mahomes-
..
..below this line, there needs to be really good surrounding talent and coaching..
2. Herbert
3. Allen
4. Stafford
5. Lamar
6. Stroud
7. Burrow
8. Hurts (maybe)
.. below this line, the defense needs to really step up and some pretty good luck involved..
9. Prescott
10. Purdy
11. Goff
12. Kyler
13. Mayfield
14. Lawrence
15. Rodgers
...- below this line, it seems much less likely and more-or-less a Eli Manning special- ie extreme luck and defense.
Everyone in between

Absolutely zero percent chance
Bryce Young
Daniel Jones

 

[pinkstapler]

I'd say there are always around 20 or so, but in reality including some of the higher end backups, probably 25. If the team is dominant enough, all you need is a QB who is competent enough to learn a playbook, has the work ethic to study film and practice hard, humble enough to listen to the coaches, and talented enough to throw accurate passes 30 yards and in. That's the majority of QBs who enter the NFL draft (though I obviously don't have nearly the insight that NFL teams do on the intelligence/work ethic/humility aspects).

I've always viewed the QB position as a way to negate all the other holes and deficiencies on your team. They can turn mediocre teams into playoff contenders, and even overcome bad coaching staffs and front offices. However, if all these things are 90th% and up, I don't think you really need anyone that special behind center tbh. And the list of some of the QBs who've won Super Bowls shows this.

It just so happens it's incredibly difficult to build an organization that possesses all those qualities at a 90%+ under the cap that can build a rapport for a couple years, and maintains the entire season without injuries to get to the big one. IMO, probably about the same likelihood as hitting on a great QB. So in a way, it's probably actually easier to hit on one player (QB) to majorly impact your team in a positive way, than it is to hit on 60+ players/coaches/FO people and get that same impact.

 

[Joe Bryant]

On specifics, which, if any, of Mayfield, Prescott and Goff do you think are good enough to get to and win a Super Bowl?

Already answered.

Sorry. I don't see it.

Which, if any, of Mayfield, Prescott and Goff do you think are good enough to get to and win a Super Bowl?

 

[Joe Bryant]

It's easier to bracket the talent level of the QB regardless of the team IMO. Super bowl shmooper bowl.

1. Mahomes-
..
..below this line, there needs to be really good surrounding talent and coaching..
2. Herbert
3. Allen
4. Stafford
5. Lamar
6. Stroud
7. Burrow
8. Hurts (maybe)
.. below this line, the defense needs to really step up and some pretty good luck involved..
9. Prescott
10. Purdy
11. Goff
12. Kyler
13. Mayfield
14. Lawrence
15. Rodgers
...- below this line, it seems much less likely and more-or-less a Eli Manning special- ie extreme luck and defense.
Everyone in between

Absolutely zero percent chance
Bryce Young
Daniel Jones

Thanks for the thoughtful answer.

 

[Anarchy99]

Based on the 32 Week 1 starters, here is a breakdown of their playoff performances. A SB winning QB will have to win 3 or 4 games to earn a title. Only 7 of the league's Week 1 starters have won 3 playoff games in their careers, let alone in a single post season.

GROUP 1: Haven't started a playoff game (Brissett, Fields, Richardson, Levis, Nix, Minshew, Daniels, Darnold, Williams, Young)
I would be surprised if players in this group had much chance of making the SB. I guess Darnold and Fields would probably be the leading candidates with MIN and PIT 2-0.

GROUP 2: Started a playoff game but never won one . . . all 0-1 (Tua, Herbert, Carr, Geno, Murray).
Carr, Herbert, and Smith are on teams that are 2-0, although I am not sure any of them seem primed for a deep playoff run. Between Groups 1 and 2, that's already 15 QBs.

GROUP 3: At least they've won 1 playoff game . . . but have a losing record (Cousins 1-3, Watson 1-2)
Not sure that the Falcons or Browns are looked at as true contenders (even if they might sneak into the playoffs).

GROUP 4: Won 1 and lost 1 (Lawrence, DJones, Love, Stroud)
Pretty sure the Giants aren't going anywhere. The Jags, Packers, and Texans should all be in the mix to make the playoffs, but these QBs haven't shown they are playoff warriors yet. It doesn't mean they aren't, but they are relatively playoff unknowns.

GROUP 5: Won a couple of playoff games (Mayfield 2-2, Hurts 2-3, Lamar 2-4, Dak 2-5)
IMO, these guys have had the skill set, pedigree, and rosters to have won more . . . they just haven't (at least not yet). I wouldn't be shocked if one of these teams made the SB, but I probably would be surprised if they won it. Groups 3-5 account for another 10 QBs.

GROUP 6: Won 4 post-season games and made it to a SB (Purdy 4-2, Goff 4-4, Stafford 4-4)
Stafford won a ring with the Rams, so hard to argue he couldn't win one (although not sure the Rams are strong enough to get there). The Niners have gone to the SB or NFCCG 4 of the past 5 years. They've gotten close. Many have the Lions as a top tier team. These teams could win a ring on paper, but not sure they could win 3 or 4 post season games in a row.

GROUP 7: Won 5 playoff games but not a SB: (Burrow 5-2, Allen 5-5)
I wouldn't bet that either CIN or BUF would beat KC in the playoffs. After watching the Bengals lose to NE, I'm thinking they may be a bit overhyped. Allen has had the Bills knocking on the door for 4 or 5 years now, and they haven't broken through. I think this version of the Bills is weaker than some of the others. Maybe Allen could will them to win . . . but he hasn't so far.

GROUP 8: Won 10+ playoff games and a SB (Rodgers 11-10, Mahomes 15-3)
Rodgers was on Packers teams that won 11, 11, 12, 13, 13, 13, and 15 games and didn't get to the SB (those teams lost 4 NFCCGs). GB won the year they won 10 games, but that was 15 years ago. I guess if the Jets get their act together, they have a lot of talent and a tough defense, so it's not impossible to think things could play out their way. I wouldn't bank on it, though. They're still the Jets.

The only other guy here is Mahomes. He's only lost 1 playoff game to an active QB (Burrow) . . . his other 2 losses came against Brady. Counting the rest of his games, he's a net +14 wins (15-1). The 31 remaining QBs combined are -8 wins (47-55).

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Josh Allen
Aaron Rodgers
Tua Tagovailoa
Justin Herbert
Patrick Mahomes
Russell Wilson
Joe Burrow
Lamar Jackson
CJ Stroud
Jalen Hurts
Dak Prescott
Geno Smith
Kyler Murray
Brock Purdy
Sam Darnold
Jared Goff
Jordan Love
Derrick Carr
Baker Mayfield
Kirk Cousins
Trevor Lawrence

On the edge...
Gardner Minshew
Deshaun Watson

 

[Joe Bryant]

Josh Allen
Aaron Rodgers
Tua Tagovailoa
Justin Herbert
Patrick Mahomes
Russell Wilson
Joe Burrow
Lamar Jackson
CJ Stroud
Jalen Hurts
Dak Prescott
Geno Smith
Kyler Murray
Brock Purdy
Sam Darnold
Jared Goff
Jordan Love
Derrick Carr
Baker Mayfield
Kirk Cousins
Trevor Lawrence

On the edge...
Gardner Minshew
Deshaun Watson

Thank you. So I'm clear, do you think these QBs all could get to and win a super bowl?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Josh Allen
Aaron Rodgers
Tua Tagovailoa
Justin Herbert
Patrick Mahomes
Russell Wilson
Joe Burrow
Lamar Jackson
CJ Stroud
Jalen Hurts
Dak Prescott
Geno Smith
Kyler Murray
Brock Purdy
Sam Darnold
Jared Goff
Jordan Love
Derrick Carr
Baker Mayfield
Kirk Cousins
Trevor Lawrence

On the edge...
Gardner Minshew
Deshaun Watson

Thank you. So I'm clear, do you think these QBs all could get to and win a super bowl?

Yes I'm torn on Minshew/Watson (I'm worried Watson may have just given up mentally and not care enough anymore) but the rest I think are just as capable of winning one as guys like Flacco/Eli were.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Based on the 32 Week 1 starters, here is a breakdown of their playoff performances. A SB winning QB will have to win 3 or 4 games to earn a title. Only 7 of the league's Week 1 starters have won 3 playoff games in their careers, let alone in a single post season.

GROUP 1: Haven't started a playoff game (Brissett, Fields, Richardson, Levis, Nix, Minshew, Daniels, Darnold, Williams, Young)
I would be surprised if players in this group had much chance of making the SB. I guess Darnold and Fields would probably be the leading candidates with MIN and PIT 2-0.

GROUP 2: Started a playoff game but never won one . . . all 0-1 (Tua, Herbert, Carr, Geno, Murray).
Carr, Herbert, and Smith are on teams that are 2-0, although I am not sure any of them seem primed for a deep playoff run. Between Groups 1 and 2, that's already 15 QBs.

GROUP 3: At least they've won 1 playoff game . . . but have a losing record (Cousins 1-3, Watson 1-2)
Not sure that the Falcons or Browns are looked at as true contenders (even if they might sneak into the playoffs).

GROUP 4: Won 1 and lost 1 (Lawrence, DJones, Love, Stroud)
Pretty sure the Giants aren't going anywhere. The Jags, Packers, and Texans should all be in the mix to make the playoffs, but these QBs haven't shown they are playoff warriors yet. It doesn't mean they aren't, but they are relatively playoff unknowns.

GROUP 5: Won a couple of playoff games (Mayfield 2-2, Hurts 2-3, Lamar 2-4, Dak 2-5)
IMO, these guys have had the skill set, pedigree, and rosters to have won more . . . they just haven't (at least not yet). I wouldn't be shocked if one of these teams made the SB, but I probably would be surprised if they won it. Groups 3-5 account for another 10 QBs.

GROUP 6: Won 4 post-season games and made it to a SB (Purdy 4-2, Goff 4-4, Stafford 4-4)
Stafford won a ring with the Rams, so hard to argue he couldn't win one (although not sure the Rams are strong enough to get there). The Niners have gone to the SB or NFCCG 4 of the past 5 years. They've gotten close. Many have the Lions as a top tier team. These teams could win a ring on paper, but not sure they could win 3 or 4 post season games in a row.

GROUP 7: Won 5 playoff games but not a SB: (Burrow 5-2, Allen 5-5)
I wouldn't bet that either CIN or BUF would beat KC in the playoffs. After watching the Bengals lose to NE, I'm thinking they may be a bit overhyped. Allen has had the Bills knocking on the door for 4 or 5 years now, and they haven't broken through. I think this version of the Bills is weaker than some of the others. Maybe Allen could will them to win . . . but he hasn't so far.

GROUP 8: Won 10+ playoff games and a SB (Rodgers 11-10, Mahomes 15-3)
Rodgers was on Packers teams that won 11, 11, 12, 13, 13, 13, and 15 games and didn't get to the SB (those teams lost 4 NFCCGs). GB won the year they won 10 games, but that was 15 years ago. I guess if the Jets get their act together, they have a lot of talent and a tough defense, so it's not impossible to think things could play out their way. I wouldn't bank on it, though. They're still the Jets.

The only other guy here is Mahomes. He's only lost 1 playoff game to an active QB (Burrow) . . . his other 2 losses came against Brady. Counting the rest of his games, he's a net +14 wins (15-1). The 31 remaining QBs combined are -8 wins (47-55).

FYI. Hurts made it to the Superbowl already.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Josh Allen
Aaron Rodgers
Tua Tagovailoa
Justin Herbert
Patrick Mahomes
Russell Wilson
Joe Burrow
Lamar Jackson
CJ Stroud
Jalen Hurts
Dak Prescott
Geno Smith
Kyler Murray
Brock Purdy
Sam Darnold
Jared Goff
Jordan Love
Derrick Carr
Baker Mayfield
Kirk Cousins
Trevor Lawrence

On the edge...
Gardner Minshew
Deshaun Watson

Thank you. So I'm clear, do you think these QBs all could get to and win a super bowl?

Yes I'm torn on Minshew/Watson (I'm worried Watson may have just given up mentally and not care enough anymore) but the rest I think are just as capable of winning one as guys like Flacco/Eli were.

Thanks. I can see that.

I tend to lean more your way and have a larger group in the "good enough to get to and win a Super Bowl".

 

[Leroy Hoard]

So the question includes both getting to and winning, or just winning? Otherwise why include getting to in the question.

 

[TennesseeJed]

Kind of an odd question.

Winning SB QBS include: Trent Dilfer, Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, Matthew Stafford, Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien, Jeff Hostettler.


Almost any starting NFL QB could be a Super Bowl winning QB - if the team was strong enough.

Conversely, the Hall of Fame has several QBs who never won a SB (or NFL Championship). Marino, Kelly, Fouts, Tarkenton come immediately to mind.

 

[Anarchy99]

FYI. Hurts made it to the Superbowl already.

I didn't say otherwise. Based on the categories I listed, that's the closest one he fits in.

 

[cheese]

Kind of an odd question.

Winning SB QBS include: Trent Dilfer, Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, Matthew Stafford, Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien, Jeff Hostettler.


Almost any starting NFL QB could be a Super Bowl winning QB - if the team was strong enough.

Conversely, the Hall of Fame has several QBs who never won a SB (or NFL Championship). Marino, Kelly, Fouts, Tarkenton come immediately to mind.

Nick Foles is the interesting one to me. Further back, eh, it's basically a different sport now than it was then. QB is probably 70% of the team now and was 20% back then.

I'm going to cheat because I think coaches matter so much to QB play. My list would be...
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Whoever McVay has
Whoever LaFleur has
Whoever Shanahan has

 

[zed2283]

There are probably 25 QBs that could do it, if the GM would spend money at all the other positions instead of the franchise-crippling contracts they are paying QBs now.

If I'm a GM I'm going the ugly way with incredible OL & DL line play and Dilfer.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Kind of an odd question.

Winning SB QBS include: Trent Dilfer, Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, Matthew Stafford, Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien, Jeff Hostettler.


Almost any starting NFL QB could be a Super Bowl winning QB - if the team was strong enough.

Conversely, the Hall of Fame has several QBs who never won a SB (or NFL Championship). Marino, Kelly, Fouts, Tarkenton come immediately to mind.

Interesting. I hear the "Is he good enough to get to and win a Super Bowl?" questions asked pretty regularly.

And of course, surrounding cast is crucial.

Most recently, I heard it asked with Dak Prescott.

 

[General Malaise]

I don't want to say by himself, as the Chiefs D carried a lot of water in last years Super Bowl run....., but to me, there's only one QB who could be THE GUY and win a Super Bowl (that is...go on a playoff run and then win the Super Bowl) primarily on his back...and that's Mahomes.

I think Mahomes might be the only QB right now who makes lesser players better around him; everyone else needs better players around them to upjump their game; even a little.

Next closest and almost there is probably Josh Allen. He just hasn't won it.

Thanks for saying this; the KC defense has been a huge part of the Chief's success. I think Steve Spagnuolo is the best DC in the league and has four super bowl rings to show for it. His halftime adjustments are legendary. Holding Baltimore to 10 in last year's playoffs (on the road) was sensational.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

There are probably 25 QBs that could do it, if the GM would spend money at all the other positions instead of the franchise-crippling contracts they are paying QBs now.

If I'm a GM I'm going the ugly way with incredible OL & DL line play and Dilfer.

Even the best can't win without an OL. This includes Mahomes when his OL was injured in the one Super Bowl loss.

 

[General Malaise]

And to be clear, the question isn't "Good enough by themselves to win a Super Bowl".

Right now, that's probably only Mahomes and Josh Allen.

I'm talking about the QBs who are good enough on an excellent team to get to and win a Super Bowl.

Goff and Prescott can win the Super Bowl with the teams they currently have. Baker cannot. He could if he were on one of the top teams in the league.

Goff has actually been to a Super Bowl.

Prescott has never advanced past the 2nd round. He's also two years older than Goff at 31. Time be ticking.

I'd take Baker of Prescott without hesitation.

 

[General Malaise]

Well, these guys have been Super Bowl winning QBs:
Phil Simms
Doug Williams
Jeff Hostetler
Mark Rypien
Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Joe Flacco
Nick Foles

Mayfield, Prescott, and Goff would fit into this list. So, I would say that any of them could win it.

I don't know if this matters relevant to the discussion, but Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, Trent Dilfer and Nick Foles didn't start those seasons as starters. None of them were really relevant long after, either. Dilfer had some success with Seattle but the rest, eh. Good list, though. Food for thought.

 

[ratbast]

If either of them played for Detroit they would be a “yes” for me.
Goff 100%
Prescott 85%
Mayfield 70%
Percentage representing my confidence

 

[Deamon]

I think this is a fundamentally flawed question, and that any good QB is good enough to win a Super Bowl, as long as things go right for them. Now, there are certain QBs, who can carry a team on their backs, but often those guys don't ever win Super Bowls, Marino being the go-to example there.

So, I guess, I don't see this question as being all that different than, "Who are the best QBs in the NFL?"

Do I think Dak Prescott or Jared Goff could win a Super Bowl? Absolutely. But they need more to go right around him, than someone like Josh Allen does, as he's more likely to single handedly carry a team.

Ya, I really don't understand this question at all. If you make up a team of NFL all-stars, even a team led by Bryce Young would easily be the Super Bowl favourites.

I think you really need to define "excellent team" before this question even has an ounce of relevancy. Even the Dak haters (which is obviously why you made this thread), would pick them to win the SB if he was on a team with Breece+CMC+Hill+Lamb+Chase+Laporta+McBride+ the best Oline in the entire league. (You get the point).

A better one might be which QBs are good enough to get their CURRENT team to a SB. You can't just say "excellent team"

 

[Deamon]

Well, these guys have been Super Bowl winning QBs:
Phil Simms
Doug Williams
Jeff Hostetler
Mark Rypien
Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Joe Flacco
Nick Foles

Winning SB QBS include: Trent Dilfer, Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, Matthew Stafford, Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien, Jeff Hostettler.

Careful now. He was absolutely incredible.

His Nephew is going to win a SB MVP in his career too.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Of the current starting QBs in the league...

It would not surprise me at all if any of these win a Super Bowl (obviously not all of them will since only one can win a year, but none of these would be a shock):
Lamar Jackson
Joe Burrow
Josh Allen
CJ Stroud
Trevor Lawrence
Justin Herbert
Aaron Rodgers
Patrick Mahomes
Kirk Cousins
Kyler Murray
Jared Goff
Jordan Love
Matthew Stafford
Jalen Hurts
Brock Purdy
Baker Mayfield

I'd be mildly surprised if these guys win one, but with the right team around them I could see it happening:
Geno Smith
Jayden Daniels
Derek Carr
Caleb Williams
Anthony Richardson

It doesn't look promising:
Deshaun Watson
Bo Nix
Gardner Minshew
Skylar Thompson
Jacoby Brissett
Dak Prescott
Justin Fields
Will Levis
Bryce Young
Sam Darnold
Daniel Jones

 

[Joe Bryant]

A better one might be which QBs are good enough to get their CURRENT team to a SB. You can't just say "excellent team"

Sure. What TEAMS can get to the Super Bowl is an interesting question. Those odds are here.

That's a different question than this one.

For Prescott, yes, he's the one that's come up in discussion I see. As I said.

I think Prescott is a good enough to get his team to the Super Bowl. I wondered what others thought there and also what other QBs people thought were good enough.

And it is hard to pull a QB out of the team context. But it can be good discussion. For instance, many people thought Matt Stafford was good enough to get a team to the Super Bowl when he was in Detroit. But he had to get to another team to do it.

 

[Deamon]

A better one might be which QBs are good enough to get their CURRENT team to a SB. You can't just say "excellent team"

Sure. What TEAMS can get to the Super Bowl is an interesting question. Those odds are here.

That's a different question than this one.

For Prescott, yes, he's the one that's come up in discussion I see. As I said.

I think Prescott is a good enough to get his team to the Super Bowl. I wondered what others thought there and also what other QBs people thought were good enough.

And it is hard to pull a QB out of the team context. But it can be good discussion. For instance, many people thought Matt Stafford was good enough to get a team to the Super Bowl when he was in Detroit. But he had to get to another team to do it.

Right, all good points. But again, is there a single QB in the NFL or even in College or even in the CFL, that wouldn't win a SB with the best player at every position on his team?