Star Trek - Into Darkness (1 Viewer)

[Sarnoff]

Guess I need to spell out exactly how this relates to your post:

I can see why people might be upset. They bring their kids to a wholesome franchise that they have grown up with, expecting to usher in a new generation, and they are hit with lewdness that they didn't anticipate. PG-13 should have warned them that some skin might be involved, but in my opinion the threesome was beyond the pale. I am not a huge Star Trek fan but it's similar to Star Wars in that I too have introduced my kids to that series like many Star Trek fans probably have. Plus it's the same director, and if he pulls the same thing next year by adding in this type of unnecessary lasciviousness, I will be equally unhappy as the people to whom you refer.

No offense, but this is way over the top. Alice Eve showed as much skin as you might see on a beach; there was nothing "lewd" about it. And as for the unexpected or "unanticipated" factor, I can think of 15 TOS eps off the top of my head that featured just as much skin - - "Mirror, Mirror" being the one that comes immediately to mind.

It's PG-13. That pretty much assumes anyone going to see it has had Sex Ed. in school. What was on screen was more covered up than a girl in a bikini would show.

 

[Mr Non Sequitur]

Didn't Jaba get all aroused with the bikini and chain-clad Leia? Basically trying to assault her?

George Lucas is rolling in his grave.

He's not dead quite yet

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Just got back. Loved it.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I loved it. My son and I want to see it again.

 

[Riversco]

The Trek universe is too big for just 3 movies. It has too many good ideas. I don't know if they can really do them all justice.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Just got back. Loved it.

 

[badmojo1006]

The Trek universe is too big for just 3 movies. It has too many good ideas. I don't know if they can really do them all justice.

3 Movies?

 

[Bengalsfan]

My son and I went last night...we both really enjoyed it.

 

[Mr Non Sequitur]

Saw it again, liked it almost as much as the 1st time. Easily the best of the early summer blockbuster types.

 

[tdoss]

The Trek universe is too big for just 3 movies. It has too many good ideas. I don't know if they can really do them all justice.

And yet they went and rehashed the old Khan storyline...

 

[Sludge]

I figured I'd catch this a 2nd time and caught the IMAX 3D version this weekend. I know most people hate the "KHAAAAANN!" yell but, not me and apparently not my 13 y/o daughter. She turned to me and said, "Dad, thats what you yell when you get real angry.".

 

[Han Solo]

I give this movie 1 lightsaber out of 10.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Looking forward to watching again on DVD. The man cave big screen is ready for warp speed.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Excellent flick.

Uhura is one magnificent piece as well...

 

[Socrates11]

Just watched this again with the wife, who isn't a big sci-fi fan. She loved it. Still an awesome flick the second time.

1. Wrath of Khan

2. Into Darkness

3. Search for Spock

4. Star Trek (2009 re-boot)

5. The Voyage Home

6. First Contact

7. Rest of them

 

[dparker713]

Just watched this again with the wife, who isn't a big sci-fi fan. She loved it. Still an awesome flick the second time.

1. Wrath of Khan

2. Into Darkness

3. Search for Spock

4. Star Trek (2009 re-boot)

5. The Voyage Home

6. First Contact

7. Rest of them

Atleast you got 1 right.

 

[Insein]

Just watched this again with the wife, who isn't a big sci-fi fan. She loved it. Still an awesome flick the second time.

1. Wrath of Khan

2. Into Darkness

3. Search for Spock

4. Star Trek (2009 re-boot)

5. The Voyage Home

6. First Contact

7. Rest of them

Really? I feel this is worse than the first reboot.

If I had to rate them all:

1. First Contact

2. Wrath of Khan

3. ST 2009

4. Undiscovered Country

5. Voyage Home

6. Into Darkness

7. Search for Spock

8. Generations

9. The Motion Picture

10. Insurrection

11. Nemesis

12. Final Frontier

 

[Godsbrother]

Finally watched this last night. I liked it quite a bit and didn't mind a couple holes in the plot -- it is a Sci Fi action/adventure film so no big deal to me.

I purposely avoided reading this thread or watching any trailers -- the only thing I new going in is that a villain from the original series would be back. I was hoping that it would not be Khan but I got over my disappointment. Hopefully the next film will reboot an episode from the original show rather than another Star Trek movie.

Overall a pretty good flick!

 

[FUBAR]

which would you recommend putting on top of your queue - Star Trek, This is the End, Jack the giant Slayer, or World War Z?

 

[BigJohn]

which would you recommend putting on top of your queue - Star Trek, This is the End, Jack the giant Slayer, or World War Z?

Star Trek

WWZ

(both pretty good)

End

Jack

 

[NewlyRetired]

. Hopefully the next film will reboot an episode from the original show rather than another Star Trek movie:

The character/story of Khan was from the original series first.

 

[FUBAR]

which would you recommend putting on top of your queue - Star Trek, This is the End, Jack the giant Slayer, or World War Z?

Star Trek

WWZ

(both pretty good)

End

Jack

thanks. Star trek on top of the list.

Reviews look bad for Jack, but I dunno, it looks like a decent flick for the boys (ages 5-10)

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I thought Jack sucked. Haven't seen This is the End yet.

Into Darkness is still my runaway favorite of the big blockbuster movies I've seen from this year so far.

Into Darkness

WWZ/Iron Man 3

Jack and the Giant Slayer

 

[rascal]

Question, they say Khan was genetically created and he and his people were frozen. Bones says he they are 300 years old. How is that possible given the year in the movie is 2250? Seems like a pretty obvious screwup, no?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Question, they say Khan was genetically created and he and his people were frozen. Bones says he they are 300 years old. How is that possible given the year in the movie is 2250? Seems like a pretty obvious screwup, no?

The movie was set in 2259.

In the original time line, the Eugenic Wars were in the early to mid 1990's.

If you figure Khan was around 30 years old during the war, that makes Bones's guess of 300 years right on the money from when Khan was born.

 

[rascal]

Question, they say Khan was genetically created and he and his people were frozen. Bones says he they are 300 years old. How is that possible given the year in the movie is 2250? Seems like a pretty obvious screwup, no?

The movie was set in 2259.

In the original time line, the Eugenic Wars were in the early to mid 1990's.

If you figure Khan was around 30 years old during the war, that makes Bones's guess of 300 years right on the money from when Khan was born.

So they stuck with the original time frame....got it. Thanks

 

[NewlyRetired]

Question, they say Khan was genetically created and he and his people were frozen. Bones says he they are 300 years old. How is that possible given the year in the movie is 2250? Seems like a pretty obvious screwup, no?

The movie was set in 2259.

In the original time line, the Eugenic Wars were in the early to mid 1990's.

If you figure Khan was around 30 years old during the war, that makes Bones's guess of 300 years right on the money from when Khan was born.

So they stuck with the original time frame....got it. Thanks

I think so.

The timeline from the first movie forward is all new, but anything that came before the timeline disturbance should still be intact.

 

[Sarnoff]

Hopefully the next film will reboot an episode from the original show rather than another Star Trek movie.

I'd like to see a completely original story with these characters instead.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Hopefully the next film will reboot an episode from the original show rather than another Star Trek movie.

I'd like to see a completely original story with these characters instead.

I agree. The whole point of the first movie is to skew the timeline so that they could avoid canon and be able to present any story they wanted with out screwing up the original timeline.

 

[Godsbrother]

Hopefully the next film will reboot an episode from the original show rather than another Star Trek movie.

I'd like to see a completely original story with these characters instead.

I agree. The whole point of the first movie is to skew the timeline so that they could avoid canon and be able to present any story they wanted with out screwing up the original timeline.

If they wanted completely new story lines with no attachments to the original series then why feature the characters from the original series at all?

Because the timeline is screwed up at a time before Kirk took command of the Enterprise they have a free rein to take any of the original stories and change them however they want. There are a lot of great stories in the original series that could be expanded on without being derivative.

They could also mash up two or more episodes to get them to work as one story.

 

[Buckna]

Big Trekkie and liked this one a ton better than the first reboot. Still some silliness here and there but at least the plot of this one wasnt totally Swiss cheese.

I lol'ed when they made it a point to at least address at the beginning how they gave the flagship of the fleet to a bunch of cadets. A lot of people were bent out of shape about that small detail from the last film.

 

[FUBAR]

I thought Jack sucked. Haven't seen This is the End yet.

Into Darkness is still my runaway favorite of the big blockbuster movies I've seen from this year so far.

Into Darkness

WWZ/Iron Man 3

Jack and the Giant Slayer

Got ID at home now, will watch this weekend, probably with the kids.

We enjoyed Iron Man 3, but the kids moreso than I did.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Hopefully the next film will reboot an episode from the original show rather than another Star Trek movie.

I'd like to see a completely original story with these characters instead.

I agree. The whole point of the first movie is to skew the timeline so that they could avoid canon and be able to present any story they wanted with out screwing up the original timeline.

If they wanted completely new story lines with no attachments to the original series then why feature the characters from the original series at all?

Probably because the characters are iconic. Everyone from an 85 year old to a 20 year old knew who Kirk and Spock were. That is a great baseline to build from. I agree there are many great stories from the old series. A fully updated, 2 hour movie on the doomsday machine for example would be extremely fun, but personally I am more interested in new stories if possible.

If they have to use old material, they should be creative about and borrow from the other series. I think having this crew run into say the Borg, and Q might be fascinating.

 

[BigJohn]

Hopefully the next film will reboot an episode from the original show rather than another Star Trek movie.

I'd like to see a completely original story with these characters instead.

I agree. The whole point of the first movie is to skew the timeline so that they could avoid canon and be able to present any story they wanted with out screwing up the original timeline.

If they wanted completely new story lines with no attachments to the original series then why feature the characters from the original series at all?

Probably because the characters are iconic. Everyone from an 85 year old to a 20 year old knew who Kirk and Spock were. That is a great baseline to build from. I agree there are many great stories from the old series. A fully updated, 2 hour movie on the doomsday machine for example would be extremely fun, but personally I am more interested in new stories if possible.

If they have to use old material, they should be creative about and borrow from the other series. I think having this crew run into say the Borg, and Q might be fascinating.

Spoiler

When Scotty came around the moon to find the mega ship being built, the Borg flashed into my mind. I was excited.

 

[Spanky267]

I thought it was an interesting spin on the whole "Space Seed" story. I thought the move was well done and moved at a good pace. The beginning was a little slow. It would be intersting for them to flesh out how the destruction of Vulcan and the near extinction of the Vulcan race impacts the development of the Federation from here on out. It would seem that the Vulcans were the more prudent members of the Federation and their loss could very negatively impact Federation relations with the Romulans and the Klingons. Would also be interesting to see them introduce the Cardassians as they dont really have any role in interstellar politics prior to The Next Generation.

I think the Borg being introduced wouldnt be very interesting unless you want to go full on action movie with the franchise.

 

[Class Dismissed]

Question, they say Khan was genetically created and he and his people were frozen. Bones says he they are 300 years old. How is that possible given the year in the movie is 2250? Seems like a pretty obvious screwup, no?

Good god man, he's a DOCTOR, not a mathematician.

You Green Blooded, inhuman, hobgoblin.

 

[GROMS]

Question, they say Khan was genetically created and he and his people were frozen. Bones says he they are 300 years old. How is that possible given the year in the movie is 2250? Seems like a pretty obvious screwup, no?

Good god man, he's a DOCTOR, not a mathematician.

You Green Blooded, inhuman, hobgoblin.

Lol, I thought Karl Urban is great as Bones.

 

[Insein]

Question, they say Khan was genetically created and he and his people were frozen. Bones says he they are 300 years old. How is that possible given the year in the movie is 2250? Seems like a pretty obvious screwup, no?

Good god man, he's a DOCTOR, not a mathematician. You Green Blooded, inhuman, hobgoblin.

Lol, I thought Karl Urban is great as Bones.

Karl Urban has quickly become one of my favorite guy movie actors.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I think the Borg being introduced wouldnt be very interesting unless you want to go full on action movie with the franchise.

The first 2 were already action packed. They were hardly 2001: A Space Odyssey

 

[Insein]

Finally saw it. While I like it, I felt it had a bit too much of the old stuff and not enough meat in the plot. I'm a big Star Trek fan as a kid but not a Trekkie by any nature. I was just a little disappointed in the whole angle they took.

Spoiler

Kirk dies the same way spock did only with the obvious catch all of Kahn's blood being the cup of Christ. Quinto's "Kahn!" was almost cringe worthy. Not as bad as Vader's "no" but just didn't have the same force as the original. It felt like a spoof.

Spoiler

Minor gripes like that. I enjoyed myself and was engaged for everything except those first weird moments in the movie (after the opening scene). Nothing spectacular but not bad. Probably 7/10.

Saw it again tonight for the first time since then. The same gripes still bug me. I just don't like how derived from the original Wrath of Kahn the whole thing felt. Plus the plot really has some leaps of faith the size of the milky way. Amazing visuals though but not a lot of substance. Still holds at a 7/10.

 

[Insein]

One thing I just thought of watching the ST remake. Why did vulcans teach their children human mathematics and chemical compounds? Wouldn't they have established something well before humans were even walking upright?