STAR WARS: EP 7 ***SPOILER ZONE*** - Go here if you've seen it (1 Viewer)

[Mario Kart]

Yea I'm not getting the Poe tie in. He feels more like Wedge than Luke or Han.

Is he going to be the "star" in the X-Wing movies? If so, I could see why they introduce him here. Also, maybe finding the map is the plot to those movies.

 

[Riversco]

On 2nd viewing I liked Kylo Ren much better. Criticisms of him as juvenile are ridiculous. He's a great bad guy. Quite conflicted but awesome. I think he is going to become absolutely insane and fearsome in the next two movies.

My other complaint was how everyone seemed to be able to handle a lightsaber pretty damn easily. I can understand Rey since she has the force but Finn? That was too much for me given the importance of this weapon in connection with the Jedi and the Force. He shouldn't be able to just pick it up and kick ### with it. .

Finn is a trained stormtrooper from a very young age. He has advanced weaponry skills of all kinds. More than a blaster, he could jump into the Falcons gun turret and shoot down TIE fighters. It makes sense he could be trained with laser swords as well.

But this isn't an ordinary weapon. It's a Jedi's weapon. It's special. That's my point. I think it gets de-valued if anybody off the street can pick it up and start kicking ### with it. Now if we find out later there's more going on with Finn that would explain it. But I'm not treating a Jedi's weapon like a standard ordinary weapon. It's always carried a revered place in this world and I think that's for a reason. Only a select few can use it effectively. Rey using it makes sense since she has the force and may be Luke's daughter. In my opinion Finn doesn't based on what we know about him at the present time.

Just my two cents.

A lightsaber is just an energy stick. I bet any Tusken Raider would be capable with one.

 

[packersfan]

On 2nd viewing I liked Kylo Ren much better. Criticisms of him as juvenile are ridiculous. He's a great bad guy. Quite conflicted but awesome. I think he is going to become absolutely insane and fearsome in the next two movies.

My other complaint was how everyone seemed to be able to handle a lightsaber pretty damn easily. I can understand Rey since she has the force but Finn? That was too much for me given the importance of this weapon in connection with the Jedi and the Force. He shouldn't be able to just pick it up and kick ### with it. .

Finn is a trained stormtrooper from a very young age. He has advanced weaponry skills of all kinds. More than a blaster, he could jump into the Falcons gun turret and shoot down TIE fighters. It makes sense he could be trained with laser swords as well.

But this isn't an ordinary weapon. It's a Jedi's weapon. It's special. That's my point. I think it gets de-valued if anybody off the street can pick it up and start kicking ### with it. Now if we find out later there's more going on with Finn that would explain it. But I'm not treating a Jedi's weapon like a standard ordinary weapon. It's always carried a revered place in this world and I think that's for a reason. Only a select few can use it effectively. Rey using it makes sense since she has the force and may be Luke's daughter. In my opinion Finn doesn't based on what we know about him at the present time.

Just my two cents.

A lightsaber is just an energy stick. I bet any Tusken Raider would be capable with one.

Now you're just being mean. :(

 

[Billy Bats]

Album and video (low quality) of Rey's flashback.

So at the end of the flashback, I'm trying to figure out the last whisper. Sounds like it is McGregor's Kenobi saying"He was among the first senators that knew you"?

wtf could that mean?

I still feel like we are going to see ghost(s) in either 8 or 9.

Only senator we know is Amidala. Maybe it says "she was" and is referring to Rey's lineage? No idea but that line is there for a reason, no?If so yeah all signs pointing to she's a Skywalker.

 

[Insein]

On 2nd viewing I liked Kylo Ren much better. Criticisms of him as juvenile are ridiculous. He's a great bad guy. Quite conflicted but awesome. I think he is going to become absolutely insane and fearsome in the next two movies.

My other complaint was how everyone seemed to be able to handle a lightsaber pretty damn easily. I can understand Rey since she has the force but Finn? That was too much for me given the importance of this weapon in connection with the Jedi and the Force. He shouldn't be able to just pick it up and kick ### with it. .

Finn is a trained stormtrooper from a very young age. He has advanced weaponry skills of all kinds. More than a blaster, he could jump into the Falcons gun turret and shoot down TIE fighters. It makes sense he could be trained with laser swords as well.

But this isn't an ordinary weapon. It's a Jedi's weapon. It's special. That's my point. I think it gets de-valued if anybody off the street can pick it up and start kicking ### with it. Now if we find out later there's more going on with Finn that would explain it. But I'm not treating a Jedi's weapon like a standard ordinary weapon. It's always carried a revered place in this world and I think that's for a reason. Only a select few can use it effectively. Rey using it makes sense since she has the force and may be Luke's daughter. In my opinion Finn doesn't based on what we know about him at the present time.Just my two cents.

A lightsaber is just an energy stick. I bet any Tusken Raider would be capable with one.

Now you're just being mean. :(

This is like midichlorians all over again.

 

[GoFishTN]

Album and video (low quality) of Rey's flashback.

So at the end of the flashback, I'm trying to figure out the last whisper. Sounds like it is McGregor's Kenobi saying

"He was among the first senators that knew you"?

The last thing I hear is "You've taken your first steps" from ANH.

 

[Mario Kart]

Assuming Rey spends time with Luke in the next two movies that might open up one more spot to tie to the past if Chewy goes to look for Lando for help.

I can appreciate not knowing how to fit Lando into this story but I gotta think he's in at least one of the next two. They brought back Ackbar for Christ sake. Lando's gotta be coming back at some point.

As long as he has some Colt 45 with him.

 

[mcintyre1]

On 2nd viewing I liked Kylo Ren much better. Criticisms of him as juvenile are ridiculous. He's a great bad guy. Quite conflicted but awesome. I think he is going to become absolutely insane and fearsome in the next two movies.

My other complaint was how everyone seemed to be able to handle a lightsaber pretty damn easily. I can understand Rey since she has the force but Finn? That was too much for me given the importance of this weapon in connection with the Jedi and the Force. He shouldn't be able to just pick it up and kick ### with it. .

Finn is a trained stormtrooper from a very young age. He has advanced weaponry skills of all kinds. More than a blaster, he could jump into the Falcons gun turret and shoot down TIE fighters. It makes sense he could be trained with laser swords as well.

But this isn't an ordinary weapon. It's a Jedi's weapon. It's special. That's my point. I think it gets de-valued if anybody off the street can pick it up and start kicking ### with it. Now if we find out later there's more going on with Finn that would explain it. But I'm not treating a Jedi's weapon like a standard ordinary weapon. It's always carried a revered place in this world and I think that's for a reason. Only a select few can use it effectively. Rey using it makes sense since she has the force and may be Luke's daughter. In my opinion Finn doesn't based on what we know about him at the present time.

Just my two cents.

A lightsaber is just an energy stick. I bet any Tusken Raider would be capable with one.

Now you're just being mean. :(

I never took lightsabers to be exclusive to Jedi in that they're the only ones that CAN use one, simply that if you don't have the force to go along with it, a fancy laser sword is pretty damn useless compared to a blaster. We don't see Finn or Rey deflect any blaster shots with one, which is something I would expect only a well trained user to be able to do.

 

[Billy Bats]

Album and video (low quality) of Rey's flashback.

So at the end of the flashback, I'm trying to figure out the last whisper. Sounds like it is McGregor's Kenobi saying"He was among the first senators that knew you"?

The last thing I hear is "You've taken your first steps" from ANH.

Yep sounds more like that than what my brain was hearing.

 

[cstu]

Thinking back to JJ and the way he tells of being asked to do the movie, he's says Kennedy asked him a question and he was hooked immediately to doing SW. The simple question she asked was "who is Luke Skywalker?". It's weird considering we see him for about :45 seconds in the one he directed, but also telling in that the next two will focus mainly on him, and what had happened to him.

At his center, the Star Wars saga has been about the Skywalker family with Luke the focal point. Given his age he's no longer in position probably to fight valiantly to save the galaxy anymore which would mean it would be left to someone else in his family. I doubt the next two films are about Kylo suddenly turning good so that leaves Rey to be revealed as Luke's daughter and the new savior of the galaxy.

Seems like the galaxy's biggest problem is the Skywalker family. Rey will probably have kid who wants to control the galaxy in 20 years.

 

[Daywalker]

One thing that would have been cool.

Last scene:

Luke takes off his hoodie and when he looks back at rey he see's the ghosts of obi, anakin and Yoda behind her. Boom.

 

[cstu]

One thing that would have been cool.

Last scene:

Luke takes off his hoodie and when he looks back at rey he see's the ghosts of obi, anakin and Yoda behind her. Boom.

If they continue remaking the movies then that will be Episode IX (aka ROTJ).

 

[NewlyRetired]

Album and video (low quality) of Rey's flashback.

So at the end of the flashback, I'm trying to figure out the last whisper. Sounds like it is McGregor's Kenobi saying"He was among the first senators that knew you"?

wtf could that mean?

I still feel like we are going to see ghost(s) in either 8 or 9.

Only senator we know is Amidala. Maybe it says "she was" and is referring to Rey's lineage? No idea but that line is there for a reason, no?If so yeah all signs pointing to she's a Skywalker.

There was one other important senator

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Awesome

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

- I was hoping the presense of Rey would spark R2-D2 back to action, not Chewie.

someone postulated earlier that it was Rey's presence who made R2 wake up as he did not wake up before she got there if memory serves.

I took that to possibly mean R2 was waiting for Luke and sensed another Skywalker instead that he did not recognize as Leia.

My initial thought was R2 was sensing Luke's presence in some fashion. Perhaps Luke sensed Han's death (which he surely did) and that led him to reach out to R2 in some way. The scene of him touching R2 in the flashback had a strong Vulcan mind meld vibe for me. It looked as if Luke was implanting something in R2. ETA - didn't C3PO say something to the effect that R2 shut down when Luke left? If that's the case then it's very possible he woke back up thanks to something triggered by Luke.

oh! I like that idea of Luke touching R2 that way. Good pick up! I hope that gets fleshed out more as we go forward.

It is almost certain that Luke sensed Han's death since Leia did (at least that is how the edit made it look).

Assuming Luke is basically marooned on what ever planet he went to, he might be reaching out to R2 to come get him.

By the way, did Luke himself break the map into 2 pieces? I did not quite understand how Max Von Sydow got his piece of the map............?

The map isn't "to Luke" specifically. It is a map to the legendary first Jedi temple that Luke rumored was in seek of after his failure. That's why I think that old guy was Sifo Dias or knew him. Ren had pieces of the map from the old Jedi archive, but it was missing a piece. Like how kamino was missing from the archive as well (removed by Sifo Dias).

 

[mcintyre1]

A few things that I'm sure have been covered, but sorry, I'm not reading 14 pages to find out (saw it last night):

1) Loved Rey. I think she's definitely Luke's daughter for a few reasons: There's the obvious connection with the lightsaber "calling to her" and the vision quest of greatest hits of the Skywalker line, but on top of that the movie prominently features her having three classic Skywalker traits: She's naturally gifted with the Force (and even more so once she "believes" ie. closes her eyes at the end, which Luke doesn't get until Empire), she's a naturally incredible pilot (after the Jakku chase she says something like "I don't even know how I did that!"), and she's gifted with repairing things (Anakin builds 3PO, Luke is fixing stuff for the farm).

I think after Ren fell to the dark side under Luke's tutelage (and with Leia possibly blaming Luke explicitly -- she says something like "if only I'd kept him (Ren) with me" to Han), Luke decided that Skywalkers are too dangerous to be trained. So, he goes in to exile and has to make the terrible decision to abandon his daughter on Jakku where he hopes no one will ever find her.

2) I thought Ren was an excellent bad guy, and as I expected going in, he's a conflicted bad guy. He's drawn to the power that the dark side represents, but he's afraid of not having the strength to be "fully evil." I also don't agree with people who see him as weak. We actually see him do some pretty powerful things with the Force, like stopping that blaster shot in mid air (I don't think we've ever seen a force user do that before), extensive mind reading, and effectively force paralysis. But those powers also reinforce the "conflicted bad guy" idea, because he does all of those powerful things with the force while he is focused and calm. Traditionally, calm and focus has been the realm of the light, with anger and chaos the realm of the dark. I think we can clearly see that Ren is a more powerful light side user than he is dark.

3) I'm unclear if Finn or Poe are going to turn out force sensitive. Both exhibit some of the hints of it (incredible pilot, skilled in combat), but I don't really see there being that many "Jedi" among the main characters.

4) If I had to guess, I'm going with Snoke being Darth Plageius from the PT. If I remember right, we know that Plageius can 1) save people from death 2) create life and 3) create powerful illusions. Perhaps he convinced Siddious that he was dead, but has been pulling strings in the background since the beginning. We could also guess that he was behind the Anakin being born from the Force, which explains some of the motivation for why Snoke is so interested in finding Skywalker (the descendant of the being he supposedly created). Also, someone posted a youtube doubler of the Darth Plageious / Opera music from the PT and the Snoke theme from TFA, they're very very similar.

 

[netnalp]

What was the specific reason R2 woke up right when he did? They had been in that location for a while and BB8 tried to get him to move but he would not.

What made him later realize he had the rest of the map info that he could have given earlier?

Rey.

Or was it Luke's Light saber back in his vicinity?

 

[netnalp]

Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.

Had I not known for 20 years that Ford wanted this character to die, it would have had more emotion for me. I simply expected it going in.

This was me. No idea Ford wanted Solo to die. Why?

I think during Empire he was worried that he'd be typecast.

 

[flysack]

What was the specific reason R2 woke up right when he did? They had been in that location for a while and BB8 tried to get him to move but he would not.

What made him later realize he had the rest of the map info that he could have given earlier?

Rey.

Or was it Luke's Light saber back in his vicinity?

Either, really.

One other thing I noticed on my second viewing: every time Rey was about to do something Force related (like when she took on Kylo Ren), they played Luke's theme from episode IV.

ETA:

Also, on my second viewing I caught this: When Kylo Ren reads Rey's mind, he mentions her early memory of "an island."

Strong evidence she's been to Luke's hideout before. And that the old man who had the missing piece of the map was there watching her, like Ben watched Luke.

Who was that old guy? He knew Kylo's real name and family. He had met him before. My guess is he was present during Luke's training of the next generation of Jedi.

Lastly, I also tried my hardest to identify the voice in her vision who says, "This is the first step..." but I couldn't nail it as Obi Wan or Yoda or Annakin.

 

[netnalp]

Assuming Rey spends time with Luke in the next two movies that might open up one more spot to tie to the past if Chewy goes to look for Lando for help.

I can appreciate not knowing how to fit Lando into this story but I gotta think he's in at least one of the next two. They brought back Ackbar for Christ sake. Lando's gotta be coming back at some point.

Lando, Finn's dad? Though it'd be cheesy if all the new main characters are kids of the previous main characters.

 

[Pipes]

On 2nd viewing I liked Kylo Ren much better. Criticisms of him as juvenile are ridiculous. He's a great bad guy. Quite conflicted but awesome. I think he is going to become absolutely insane and fearsome in the next two movies.

My other complaint was how everyone seemed to be able to handle a lightsaber pretty damn easily. I can understand Rey since she has the force but Finn? That was too much for me given the importance of this weapon in connection with the Jedi and the Force. He shouldn't be able to just pick it up and kick ### with it. .

Finn is a trained stormtrooper from a very young age. He has advanced weaponry skills of all kinds. More than a blaster, he could jump into the Falcons gun turret and shoot down TIE fighters. It makes sense he could be trained with laser swords as well.

But this isn't an ordinary weapon. It's a Jedi's weapon. It's special. That's my point. I think it gets de-valued if anybody off the street can pick it up and start kicking ### with it. Now if we find out later there's more going on with Finn that would explain it. But I'm not treating a Jedi's weapon like a standard ordinary weapon. It's always carried a revered place in this world and I think that's for a reason. Only a select few can use it effectively. Rey using it makes sense since she has the force and may be Luke's daughter. In my opinion Finn doesn't based on what we know about him at the present time.Just my two cents.

A lightsaber is just an energy stick. I bet any Tusken Raider would be capable with one.

Now you're just being mean. :(

I never took lightsabers to be exclusive to Jedi in that they're the only ones that CAN use one, simply that if you don't have the force to go along with it, a fancy laser sword is pretty damn useless compared to a blaster. We don't see Finn or Rey deflect any blaster shots with one, which is something I would expect only a well trained user to be able to do.

I with packersfan on this one. That's why I think Fin may have some Jedi blood running through him as well.

 

[Pipes]

Assuming Rey spends time with Luke in the next two movies that might open up one more spot to tie to the past if Chewy goes to look for Lando for help.

I can appreciate not knowing how to fit Lando into this story but I gotta think he's in at least one of the next two. They brought back Ackbar for Christ sake. Lando's gotta be coming back at some point.

Lando, Finn's dad? Though it'd be cheesy if all the new main characters are kids of the previous main characters.

Samuel L Jackson's kid. Don't remember the name of the Jedi he played.

 

[Capella]

Album and video (low quality) of Rey's flashback.

Obi-Wan definitely said "Rey" there.

 

[Capella]

One of my issues with the film is that as a huge fan of the first three films I really wanted to see everyone together again. With Han dead that means that won't happen so the fact there wasn't a single scene with them together in this film stinks even more for me personally.

Surprised more fans aren't bothered by this. The last scene of Jedi was a huge celebration and the next thing you know Han is killed by his own son.

A lot of limitations with the age of the actors. If they did this 16 years ago, Ford, Fisher and Hamill were in a lot better shape. They had to move the story forward.

You can do this and still have all of them together. The decision was made to exile Luke and kill off Han so that meant that wouldn't happen. That was a writer's choice. I'm not saying either choices were bad and in terms of fueling the big picture story it's likely both were significant. I'm just saying as a fan it really sucks that Jedi is the last time it will happen. Hell, I geeked out just seeing them together at Comic-Con this year.

Could be a flashback in the future of Han and Leia handing the kid over to Luke.

 

[Insein]

Assuming Rey spends time with Luke in the next two movies that might open up one more spot to tie to the past if Chewy goes to look for Lando for help.

I can appreciate not knowing how to fit Lando into this story but I gotta think he's in at least one of the next two. They brought back Ackbar for Christ sake. Lando's gotta be coming back at some point.

Lando, Finn's dad? Though it'd be cheesy if all the new main characters are kids of the previous main characters.

Samuel L Jackson's kid. Don't remember the name of the Jedi he played.

Mace Windu and if we're going strictly canon, he dead. He died 40 years ago by this movie.

 

[Pipes]

What was the specific reason R2 woke up right when he did? They had been in that location for a while and BB8 tried to get him to move but he would not.

What made him later realize he had the rest of the map info that he could have given earlier?

Rey.

Or was it Luke's Light saber back in his vicinity?

Either, really.

One other thing I noticed on my second viewing: every time Rey was about to do something Force related (like when she took on Kylo Ren), they played Luke's theme from episode IV.

ETA:

Also, on my second viewing I caught this: When Kylo Ren reads Rey's mind, he mentions her early memory of "an island."

Strong evidence she's been to Luke's hideout before. And that the old man who had the missing piece of the map was there watching her, like Ben watched Luke.

Good catch. You guys are probably right that she is Luke's daughter.

 

[netnalp]

You guys have come up with great points about why Rey could be a Skywalker or why Rey could be a Solo.

One other thing I remembered was that during the scene where Kylo tries to read her mind in the chair, he says that Rey considers "Han Solo the father she never had"

Might be another possibility for the mind wipe as a Solo child to protect her...

That scene for me is the strongest reason why she isn't a Solo (that and Han having no idea who she is to begin with). Kylo says that and adds something along the lines of "He'll disappoint you." Given how he can feel his father's presence on the planet you would think he'd know who his sister was if he was reading her mind. Granted her memories of being a Solo would be removed and maybe Kylo's too (that's a lotta work for Luke to do there, wipe someone's memory after he's turned to the Dark Side and aligned against him) but I doubt Kylo would lose entirely the presence of his own family if he was near them.

She's gotta be Luke's kid. The whole flashback scene with the lightsaber and the weapon going to her when she wills it at the end make little sense if she isn't. Those two scenes screamed out a strong connection between Luke and Rey and not an Uncle-Niece kind. Plus having Luke be an actual father would be a good way of not just having him be the New Obi-Wan Father Figure. Gives him more at stake as well.

If Rey is a Solo, Han could have left before Leia started showing her pregnancy.And Kylo could have been sent away around that time too. "father she never had" Kylo gets that from her mind. It's entirely possible she was never told who her father is Han if that is indeed the case.

 

[Pipes]

Assuming Rey spends time with Luke in the next two movies that might open up one more spot to tie to the past if Chewy goes to look for Lando for help.

I can appreciate not knowing how to fit Lando into this story but I gotta think he's in at least one of the next two. They brought back Ackbar for Christ sake. Lando's gotta be coming back at some point.

Lando, Finn's dad? Though it'd be cheesy if all the new main characters are kids of the previous main characters.

Samuel L Jackson's kid. Don't remember the name of the Jedi he played.

Mace Windu and if we're going strictly canon, he dead. He died 40 years ago by this movie.

Yeah I guess the timetable doesn't work for that. Great great uncle perhaps? Lol

 

[NewlyRetired]

- I was hoping the presense of Rey would spark R2-D2 back to action, not Chewie.

someone postulated earlier that it was Rey's presence who made R2 wake up as he did not wake up before she got there if memory serves.

I took that to possibly mean R2 was waiting for Luke and sensed another Skywalker instead that he did not recognize as Leia.

My initial thought was R2 was sensing Luke's presence in some fashion. Perhaps Luke sensed Han's death (which he surely did) and that led him to reach out to R2 in some way. The scene of him touching R2 in the flashback had a strong Vulcan mind meld vibe for me. It looked as if Luke was implanting something in R2. ETA - didn't C3PO say something to the effect that R2 shut down when Luke left? If that's the case then it's very possible he woke back up thanks to something triggered by Luke.

oh! I like that idea of Luke touching R2 that way. Good pick up! I hope that gets fleshed out more as we go forward.

It is almost certain that Luke sensed Han's death since Leia did (at least that is how the edit made it look).

Assuming Luke is basically marooned on what ever planet he went to, he might be reaching out to R2 to come get him.

By the way, did Luke himself break the map into 2 pieces? I did not quite understand how Max Von Sydow got his piece of the map............?

The map isn't "to Luke" specifically. It is a map to the legendary first Jedi temple that Luke rumored was in seek of after his failure. That's why I think that old guy was Sifo Dias or knew him. Ren had pieces of the map from the old Jedi archive, but it was missing a piece. Like how kamino was missing from the archive as well (removed by Sifo Dias).

Which old guy? Are you referring to the Max Von Sydow character of Lor San Tekka?

Having Master Sifo-Dyas in the plot would be interesting but according to Obi EP 2 he died around the time of Phantom Menace. Maybe this is another reference to "only one has cheated death" but we never found out who that one was...........

 

[flysack]

Album and video (low quality) of Rey's flashback.

Obi-Wan definitely said "Rey" there.

How did they get a dead actor's voice to say that. It sounds exactly like Alec Guinness.

 

[flysack]

- I was hoping the presense of Rey would spark R2-D2 back to action, not Chewie.

someone postulated earlier that it was Rey's presence who made R2 wake up as he did not wake up before she got there if memory serves.

I took that to possibly mean R2 was waiting for Luke and sensed another Skywalker instead that he did not recognize as Leia.

My initial thought was R2 was sensing Luke's presence in some fashion. Perhaps Luke sensed Han's death (which he surely did) and that led him to reach out to R2 in some way. The scene of him touching R2 in the flashback had a strong Vulcan mind meld vibe for me. It looked as if Luke was implanting something in R2. ETA - didn't C3PO say something to the effect that R2 shut down when Luke left? If that's the case then it's very possible he woke back up thanks to something triggered by Luke.

oh! I like that idea of Luke touching R2 that way. Good pick up! I hope that gets fleshed out more as we go forward.

It is almost certain that Luke sensed Han's death since Leia did (at least that is how the edit made it look).

Assuming Luke is basically marooned on what ever planet he went to, he might be reaching out to R2 to come get him.

By the way, did Luke himself break the map into 2 pieces? I did not quite understand how Max Von Sydow got his piece of the map............?

The map isn't "to Luke" specifically. It is a map to the legendary first Jedi temple that Luke rumored was in seek of after his failure. That's why I think that old guy was Sifo Dias or knew him. Ren had pieces of the map from the old Jedi archive, but it was missing a piece. Like how kamino was missing from the archive as well (removed by Sifo Dias).

Which old guy? Are you referring to the Max Von Sydow character of Lor San Tekka?

Having Master Sifo-Dyas in the plot would be interesting but according to Obi EP 2 he died around the time of Phantom Menace. Maybe this is another reference to "only one has cheated death" but we never found out who that one was...........

The story is Sifo-Dyas' body was brought to Dooku though.

 

[shader]

Album and video (low quality) of Rey's flashback.

Obi-Wan definitely said "Rey" there.

A friend of mine told me that they grabbed the "Rey" from when Old ObiWon said "betRAYed" in the old movies.

 

[flysack]

Album and video (low quality) of Rey's flashback.

Obi-Wan definitely said "Rey" there.

A friend of mine told me that they grabbed the "Rey" from when Old ObiWon said "betRAYed" in the old movies.

Wow. Excellent audio work there.

 

[shader]

Album and video (low quality) of Rey's flashback.

Obi-Wan definitely said "Rey" there.

A friend of mine told me that they grabbed the "Rey" from when Old ObiWon said "betRAYed" in the old movies.

Wow. Excellent audio work there.

Makes since to me because it was clearly Guinness' voice and he's been dead 15 years.

 

[netnalp]

Thinking back to JJ and the way he tells of being asked to do the movie, he's says Kennedy asked him a question and he was hooked immediately to doing SW. The simple question she asked was "who is Luke Skywalker?". It's weird considering we see him for about :45 seconds in the one he directed, but also telling in that the next two will focus mainly on him, and what had happened to him.

At his center, the Star Wars saga has been about the Skywalker family with Luke the focal point. Given his age he's no longer in position probably to fight valiantly to save the galaxy anymore which would mean it would be left to someone else in his family. I doubt the next two films are about Kylo suddenly turning good so that leaves Rey to be revealed as Luke's daughter and the new savior of the galaxy.

Seems like the galaxy's biggest problem is the Skywalker family. Rey will probably have kid who wants to control the galaxy in 20 years.

Problem is they seem to be trying to eliminate the dark side forces. But we are told over and over that the force looks to balance. So that means they should just accept that some Jedi are going to turn bad. Either that or go neutral, moderate Jedi.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Great movie.

Brought my 12 yr old who hasn't seen any of the of the previous movies - he enjoyed it as well. Stood well on its own.

Also did a great job mixing the old characters into the new.

Definitely going to see again - next time IMAX.

It's borderline child abuse that you haven't sat your kid down to watch the original trilogy yet...especially before seeing this.

 

[shader]

There is a great movie to be made in between 6 and 7 but the age of the actors is going to make it impossible.

My guess is that they tell the story either through a cartoon series, like clone wars, or they just wait 10-15 years and make the movie and everyone understands that new actors are necessary.

 

[netnalp]

What was the specific reason R2 woke up right when he did? They had been in that location for a while and BB8 tried to get him to move but he would not.

What made him later realize he had the rest of the map info that he could have given earlier?

Rey.

Or was it Luke's Light saber back in his vicinity? Or the map piece

 

[tommyboy]

Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.

Like always, completely disagree. My theatre was in shock. Very gripping scene.

Same here. Dead silence

 

[netnalp]

Assuming Rey spends time with Luke in the next two movies that might open up one more spot to tie to the past if Chewy goes to look for Lando for help.

I can appreciate not knowing how to fit Lando into this story but I gotta think he's in at least one of the next two. They brought back Ackbar for Christ sake. Lando's gotta be coming back at some point.

Lando, Finn's dad? Though it'd be cheesy if all the new main characters are kids of the previous main characters.

Samuel L Jackson's kid. Don't remember the name of the Jedi he played.

Mace Windu and if we're going strictly canon, he dead. He died 40 years ago by this movie.

And when Mace was alive Jedi weren't allowed to have kids and wives. So by the timeline, Finn can't be Mace's kid and due to the rule, it's doubtful he's Mace's grandson.

 

[netnalp]

What was the specific reason R2 woke up right when he did? They had been in that location for a while and BB8 tried to get him to move but he would not.

What made him later realize he had the rest of the map info that he could have given earlier?

Rey.

Or was it Luke's Light saber back in his vicinity?

Either, really.

One other thing I noticed on my second viewing: every time Rey was about to do something Force related (like when she took on Kylo Ren), they played Luke's theme from episode IV.

ETA:

Also, on my second viewing I caught this: When Kylo Ren reads Rey's mind, he mentions her early memory of "an island."

Strong evidence she's been to Luke's hideout before. And that the old man who had the missing piece of the map was there watching her, like Ben watched Luke.

Good catch. You guys are probably right that she is Luke's daughter.

Or the map goes as detailed as to mention the island.

 

[tommyboy]

What was the specific reason R2 woke up right when he did? They had been in that location for a while and BB8 tried to get him to move but he would not.

What made him later realize he had the rest of the map info that he could have given earlier?

Luke

 

[netnalp]

Album and video (low quality) of Rey's flashback.

Obi-Wan definitely said "Rey" there.

A friend of mine told me that they grabbed the "Rey" from when Old ObiWon said "betRAYed" in the old movies.

Wow. Excellent audio work there.

Makes since to me because it was clearly Guinness' voice and he's been dead 15 years.

Or surely there is someone that could imitate the voice.

 

[Jobber]

Assuming Rey spends time with Luke in the next two movies that might open up one more spot to tie to the past if Chewy goes to look for Lando for help.

I can appreciate not knowing how to fit Lando into this story but I gotta think he's in at least one of the next two. They brought back Ackbar for Christ sake. Lando's gotta be coming back at some point.

As long as he has some Colt 45 with him.

I bet Rey goes off with Luke to kick some ###. Chewie swings bu the cloud city to inform Lando of Han's demise. Lando becomes the new Falcon copilot.

 

[Mario Kart]

Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.

Like always, completely disagree. My theatre was in shock. Very gripping scene.

Same here. Dead silence

It was silent cause it was a movie. Unless you took a straw poll right at that time, shock may not have been on their minds. The death was set up way before the saber went through him. What did you all think, Han was going to walk back on the bridge hand-in-hand with Ren?

 

[Wingnut]

Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.

Like always, completely disagree. My theatre was in shock. Very gripping scene.

Same here. Dead silence

It was silent cause it was a movie. Unless you took a straw poll right at that time, shock may not have been on their minds. The death was set up way before the saber went through him. What did you all think, Han was going to walk back on the bridge hand-in-hand with Ren?

It was the most least surprising scene, once Han started walking towards him I knew it was coming.

 

[Riversco]

On 2nd viewing I liked Kylo Ren much better. Criticisms of him as juvenile are ridiculous. He's a great bad guy. Quite conflicted but awesome. I think he is going to become absolutely insane and fearsome in the next two movies.

My other complaint was how everyone seemed to be able to handle a lightsaber pretty damn easily. I can understand Rey since she has the force but Finn? That was too much for me given the importance of this weapon in connection with the Jedi and the Force. He shouldn't be able to just pick it up and kick ### with it. .

Finn is a trained stormtrooper from a very young age. He has advanced weaponry skills of all kinds. More than a blaster, he could jump into the Falcons gun turret and shoot down TIE fighters. It makes sense he could be trained with laser swords as well.

But this isn't an ordinary weapon. It's a Jedi's weapon. It's special. That's my point. I think it gets de-valued if anybody off the street can pick it up and start kicking ### with it. Now if we find out later there's more going on with Finn that would explain it. But I'm not treating a Jedi's weapon like a standard ordinary weapon. It's always carried a revered place in this world and I think that's for a reason. Only a select few can use it effectively. Rey using it makes sense since she has the force and may be Luke's daughter. In my opinion Finn doesn't based on what we know about him at the present time.

Just my two cents.

A lightsaber is just an energy stick. I bet any Tusken Raider would be capable with one.

Now you're just being mean. :(

Jedi aren't interested in the most powerful or complicated weapon. Jedi have standards. They want an elegant weapon for a civilized age.

 

[tonydead]

I line now. Any slow parts mid movie to take pee break?

 

[tommyboy]

Going back a few pages but the Han death scene was not all that emotional. However if Kylo kills Leia in a similar way, there will be more emotion because we know he killed his father too.

Like always, completely disagree. My theatre was in shock. Very gripping scene.

Same here. Dead silence

It was silent cause it was a movie. Unless you took a straw poll right at that time, shock may not have been on their minds. The death was set up way before the saber went through him. What did you all think, Han was going to walk back on the bridge hand-in-hand with Ren?

Yes. And then the ewoks would show up and we sing and dance.

 

[tommyboy]

I line now. Any slow parts mid movie to take pee break?

None