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STAR WARS: EP 7 ***SPOILER ZONE*** - Go here if you've seen it (1 Viewer)
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FinHead
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I think Rey is the focus of this trilogy. We watched her discover the force and beat a better trained Ren; with a turn that I found aggressive. This is the Luke that would have made a better story in ROTJ. If I'm Supreme Commander Snoke, I don't want Ren; they captured her once, grab her again and turn Rey to the dark side. Then we'll see her final redemption.
I thought The Force Awakens was an excellent movie, and a great transition film from the original trilogy to a new cast. My biggest criticism was that the plot arch mirrored ANH too much, and the Starkiller planet was too much like another Death Star.
I thought The Force Awakens was an excellent movie, and a great transition film from the original trilogy to a new cast. My biggest criticism was that the plot arch mirrored ANH too much, and the Starkiller planet was too much like another Death Star.
Han Solo
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Han Solo
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Agreed 100 percent
None is correct...non stop action...from beginning to end.
Han Solo
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Agreed 100 percent
None is correct...non stop action...from beginning to end.
I didn't know there was a book...not sure how far ur in the book but is it following what we saw in the movie with more?
shader
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7 stands on its own just fine IMO. When people say this, and a few (not many but a few) are, I honestly have no idea what they are talking about. Did we even see the same movie?
cstu
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Han Solo
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The movie was non stop action...i can't think of any other movie at the moment that never took a break....I loved it. My son and his friend loved it. They wanted to see it again. Like, right after...the projections for this movie may be low...the excitement in the theatre is something I haven't experienced ever.
My only complaint is for Han..being a dad, I just wasn't convinced he wanted to save his son. Not a deal breaker...the movie won't win awards but it will break all records, deservingly so.
Love the new no name actors...they killed it...I can't imagine how they feel this weekend...cloud city...
My only complaint is for Han..being a dad, I just wasn't convinced he wanted to save his son. Not a deal breaker...the movie won't win awards but it will break all records, deservingly so.
Love the new no name actors...they killed it...I can't imagine how they feel this weekend...cloud city...
Gator Shawn
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It was absolutely intentional. This is what Vader was like a few minutes after Episode 3 ended. Still just an angry scared Anakin, not anywhere close yet to being a hardened Sith Lord like he was when we saw him in Episode IV. We talked at length about this on our way home from a Holiday party tonight and this was my favorite thing about the movie.
Not really. I mean...the hug is one thing, but Leia would have learned of the duel, and that Rey was attuned to the force. That alone would have made Rey a logical choice to go to Luke (although not necessarily on her own)Here's more thoughts. Sorry if this was already covered.Thing is, I have to believe Han knew who she was as not long after meeting up with her, he says he's thinking about offering her a job. Why do that so quickly unless he knows who she is?
But when we get to the cliff with Luke I wondered well why did they send ,her? Leia just met Rey for the first time(as far as we know) when they hugged(kinda weird?), and so she just sends her to find her brother? Leia's been searching the Galaxy for him and yet she sends this kid. More reasons to believe they know her.
Billy Bats
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Just got to Finn meeting up with Rey. Following it pretty closely, with a little added dialogue and a few added small things so far. For instance when the junk dealer wants to buy BB-8, she counter offers for a 100 portions and he accepts, then she changes her mind on selling him. Nothing major yet, will post any good info.
phatdawg
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Loved it! I thought the new characters, and the actors who played them, were great. I really like Rey and Finn. I enjoyed the humor of the movie. There were probably a couple things I could nitpick, but I'm going to choose to enjoy an entertaining movie that reminded me of the originals.
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Rohn Jambo
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The real reason why they must kill off Han Solo:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3367360/Harrison-Ford-nets-23m-Star-Wars-s-76-times-newcomer-Daisy-Ridley.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3367360/Harrison-Ford-nets-23m-Star-Wars-s-76-times-newcomer-Daisy-Ridley.htm
tommyboy
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one thing I noticed more on the 2nd viewing: the fight scene where rey beats ren. She's pissed, there's a part of her that is angry/hurt/vengeful. She's not afraid to use that anger, so I see that being something akin to where luke was early on in his training. she's not just happy go lucky "hey i figured out this force thingy!" she's very determined.
pantherclub
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Just saw the movie. 5 stars without a dbout
hear me out here
JJ Abrams just pulled his pants down and crapped on George Lucas. So many little things that he did to laugh at 1-3. The movie was absolutely amazing the "jj poking lucas with a stick" was the icing on the cake.
hear me out here
JJ Abrams just pulled his pants down and crapped on George Lucas. So many little things that he did to laugh at 1-3. The movie was absolutely amazing the "jj poking lucas with a stick" was the icing on the cake.
Insein
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For me, it draws too much from the original plot. I get that not everything is original any more but too many similarities.
Masked enemy. I get that he's trying to misguidedly idolize Vader but it's there. Tears apart vessel/town to get stolen plans. Captures and interogates main character.
Protagonist stuck on a desert planet, droid carrying important information stumbles along them and starts journey. "What a piece of junk" to "No that one's garbage" and the Falcon just happens to be there. Falcon blasts its way out of Tatooine/Jakku.
Death Star 3.0, now 4 times as big with an even easier exhaust port.
Again, the film was good but I felt the same way I felt during Into Darkness. Too much of the original coming through at times.
Billy Bats
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From the book, scene is when the lieutenant is telling Kylo that they lost BB-8, some added dialogue from Kylo:
I have the perfect beginning to the next episode: Luke denies Rey and then hears a horrible chewbocca scream as chewie is back at the melenium falcon along the waters edge dumping Han's ashes into the sea. Luke knows exactly what the scream means and says lets go get these f'ers.
Insein
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Wait I missed that. I thought he said 60 and started stacking to prove his sincerity. She saw the food and almost took it but then backed down. Need to go again.
Oh nevermind, you mean the book version. That changes the whole scene.
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ghostguy123
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Would have been funny of Daisy and Boyega PAID to get these roles. Would still have been a great move for them.
Insein
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glvsav37
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small, but one of my favorite 'old star wars' throw back moments was when Han and Leia meet again for the first time and right in the middle of that emotional moment, C3P-O throws his head in and is all 'Oh hey Mr Solo, remember me" and i'm like 'yep...still that F'ing guy"
Insein
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Kid who played young anakin and was basically ridiculed his entire childhood because of how people perceived that film. Never acted again. Now has a criminal history.
dschuler
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That's how I feel as well. Watched episode IV again today and yeah, same movie. Except Vader was a beast. He captured Leia, killed a jedi, and took out almost every fighter jet at the end of the movie. Meanwhile Kylo gets his ### kicked by everybody.
ghostguy123
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He probably never acted again cause he was a sucky actor.
If they told Daisy and Boyega "do it for free or not at all" they would have done it. Easily. And it would have been a brilliant move.
Insein
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The hyperbole is getting a bit much. There's no way the actor's guild would have allowed anyone to work for free. And acting in a star wars movie isn't exactly setting up your career. Hamill and Fisher had to grind out every role and job they ever got.
ghostguy123
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Something that took like an entire movie, moving his light sabre, she is able to master in 15 min. Sorry, lazy writing.
Mario Kart
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LAUNCH
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My fears of JJ Abrams doing to Star Wars as he did with Star Trek have come true. I just am not a big fan of going over the same material and think that he should have had Han in as a cameo role instead of a main character. The focus of the story should have been all Rey's and I didn't really like the writing or acting for Finn. Overall I thought outside of Rey the casting was pretty awful. Carrie Fisher never should have been in the movie. She reminded me of the after photos in one of those don't do meth ads. Having known actors, as has been stated, is annoying, but if they were going to do it then Max Von Sydow should have been Supreme Leader Snoke. I didn't understand why they didn't use a real "actor" instead of having Andy Serkis be a big Gollum.
The General Hux character was also annoying with the lisp thing. I have never seen that actor before, but I assume he doesn't do that in real life, and it was done to make some point. Gwendoline Christie's voice for any GOT fans was distracting. Adam Driver's character was another one where I didn't get the reason for casting him. First it was stupid IMO to have him be Han and Leia's son gone Vader. Second, this was just another character like Finn's where I never understood the changes they made.
Everything seemed to be too rushed so that Abrams could get in all these characters. Rey and Finn were too knowledgeable about every subject and gained skills out of nowhere. JJ also borrowed things from the former movies, like he did with Star Trek, too often. I was hoping to get out of the wooden dialogue that we had with Lucas, but there it was again. Overall I was disappointed.
The General Hux character was also annoying with the lisp thing. I have never seen that actor before, but I assume he doesn't do that in real life, and it was done to make some point. Gwendoline Christie's voice for any GOT fans was distracting. Adam Driver's character was another one where I didn't get the reason for casting him. First it was stupid IMO to have him be Han and Leia's son gone Vader. Second, this was just another character like Finn's where I never understood the changes they made.
Everything seemed to be too rushed so that Abrams could get in all these characters. Rey and Finn were too knowledgeable about every subject and gained skills out of nowhere. JJ also borrowed things from the former movies, like he did with Star Trek, too often. I was hoping to get out of the wooden dialogue that we had with Lucas, but there it was again. Overall I was disappointed.
ghostguy123
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Officer Pete Malloy
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4chan's subreddit has an interesting title...spoiler warning because whatever https://re.reddit.com/r/4chan/
None_More_Black
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I agree with most of our comments about The Force Awakens but I think you really mean Star Trek not Star Trek Into Darkeness. Some people complained about Into Darkness being well, too dark, so I think I think Abrhams went back to the style of Star Trek which made him famous and I'm sure that is what Disney wanted.
Han Solo
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We didn't see the same movie. I don't think you understand what you saw. This was a movie to bring long time fans back and connect with new and old fans for future movies. They hit it out of the park. Sorry you didn't like it. You are the minority.
Leah, no matter what she looks like now needed to be in this. Han needed to be a main character. This movie is the set up for the next movies. You don't understand this? I'm not criticizing you ....I just think you don't get it or don't want to...
NewlyRetired
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you missed his point.
Star Trek Into Darkness was very similar to Wrath of Khan in the same ways that EP7 was similar to EP4
mcintyre1
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Have you, you know, seen a Star Wars movie before? That's basically the MO of every single titular character in the series. Literally everything that Rey is good at is something that both Luke and Anakin are also naturally good at. Anakin blows up a capital ship at like, 9 years old while basically fiddling with the controls on a star fighter and Luke destroys the Deathstar by turning off the targeting equipment and just winging it.
We've seen throughout the original trilogy that the key to Luke becoming powerful is to believe in the force and to trust it. It takes him a movie and a half to do so (outside of the Death Star trench run). Rey grew up clearly knowing the legend of Luke, the Rebellion, and the Jedi. She's already primed to believe. She fully masters that belief at the end right before she starts kicking Ren's ###.
Frankly I'm glad they didn't drag it out. People are complaining that it is too much like IV, but if it took her two movies to become any kind of a badass, they'd just be rehashing what we've seen before.
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ghostguy123
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Too many things happened that just couldn't really happen. Landing at light speed? Cmonnnnnnnn.
A storm trooper becoming a traitor??? Not even remotely possible.
It's simple. This was a great addition to episodes 4-6. Great. If you did not like this movie, chances are you never liked Star Wars to begin with. Which is totally fine, but if that was the case, then going to see this movie was just a horrible waste of your time and money.
A storm trooper becoming a traitor??? Not even remotely possible.
It's simple. This was a great addition to episodes 4-6. Great. If you did not like this movie, chances are you never liked Star Wars to begin with. Which is totally fine, but if that was the case, then going to see this movie was just a horrible waste of your time and money.
NewlyRetired
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many people feel she has already been trained before and was mind wiped to protect her. She had an awakening during the film to regain her skills.Yeah, how dare I insult the greatest movie ever made.
if this speculation turns out to be wrong, then I will agree that she picked everything too fast.
None_More_Black
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Though not directing, the next Star Wars might be a copy of Empire Strikes Back. The darkest of the the original trilogy. Abrams should be seen as a bit of a dervative hack if the the next one is darker and similar to Empire. Camp then dark, slightly less campy sequel that copies a movie from original movies.
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That would make sense. Frankly I think she is one of Luke's students.many people feel she has already been trained before and was mind wiped to protect her. She had an awakening during the film to regain her skills.Yeah, how dare I insult the greatest movie ever made.
if this speculation turns out to be wrong, then I will agree that she picked everything too fast.
ghostguy123
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People feel Rey was trained and mind wiped?? Where did THAT come from?
Not saying I disagree, but just not sure why that would be a "thing" people are discussing.
I actually thought she was his daughter or something. Just a hunch, didn't "hear" it anywhere.
Not saying I disagree, but just not sure why that would be a "thing" people are discussing.
I actually thought she was his daughter or something. Just a hunch, didn't "hear" it anywhere.
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Of course I've seen them...wow.How did she even know she could do some of that stuff with nobody to train her? She has never even used a sabre before and somehow able to beat ren who has been training his entire life. It diminishes her victory by making him appear incompetent.
And Luke knew about the force and rebellion, or have u never seen the originals trilogy? And she didn't believe it till han said so.
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NewlyRetired
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there have been about 100 posts on it in this thread alone along with a ton of other random speculation about Rey and the flashback scene and how she relates to either the Solo's or Skywalkers, why she was so good with the saber etc.
Lots of good stuff people have come up with but it is all idle speculation until we see EP8.
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