STAR WARS: EP 7 ***SPOILER ZONE*** - Go here if you've seen it (1 Viewer)

[Insein]

For those who think this has been some rehash of IV...

- where was the ceremony at the end of the movie?

- Where was the teacher (Obi-Wan)?

- Where were a off world family that gets burned?

- Where was the imposing bad guy? (Kylo is no where near imposing)

- many more...

Was the story "formulaic"? Maybe a little but you have to remember that many of us are much older and have more stories to fall back on to compare it with. For a kid, that doesn't have the experiences we do, this movie is darn near perfect. A little myth, a little action, newer story, who is Luke, how does Han impact the future, what is Rey's past? Kids should eat this up.

I know right. I mean Spock yelled Kahn this time. And they have a super secret mega enterprise. In no way does it resemble Wrath of Kahn.

 

[KarmaPolice]

People are forgetting that Ren took a direct shot from Chewie's bowcaster before fighting Rey and Finn. That thing was blowing up storm troopers left and right, so Ren was definitely not 100% for the final fights.

Plus why do we assume he is a master with a lightsaber or how far along in his training he was? I could just as easy seeing a guy like that just going for the power of the force and shrugging off his saber training as a kid with Luke.

 

[Insein]

People are forgetting that Ren took a direct shot from Chewie's bowcaster before fighting Rey and Finn. That thing was blowing up storm troopers left and right, so Ren was definitely not 100% for the final fights.

Plus why do we assume he is a master with a lightsaber or how far along in his training he was? I could just as easy seeing a guy like that just going for the power of the force and shrugging off his saber training as a kid with Luke.

Hr seemed adept enough when he slashed the computer console apart.

 

[KarmaPolice]

So 2 1/2 hours is too long to go without needing to go to the bathroom?

I don't think they make movies less than 2 1/2 hours anymore. I think SW was a tad shorter than most blockbusters.

 

[KarmaPolice]

People are forgetting that Ren took a direct shot from Chewie's bowcaster before fighting Rey and Finn. That thing was blowing up storm troopers left and right, so Ren was definitely not 100% for the final fights.

Plus why do we assume he is a master with a lightsaber or how far along in his training he was? I could just as easy seeing a guy like that just going for the power of the force and shrugging off his saber training as a kid with Luke.

Hr seemed adept enough when he slashed the computer console apart.

That is the final test to become a Sith.

 

[Capella]

Too many things happened that just couldn't really happen. Landing at light speed? Cmonnnnnnnn.

A storm trooper becoming a traitor??? Not even remotely possible.

.

yes, those are the things in the movie that couldn't happen.Edit: wait I see this was probably satire. As a post in a stream of 15 straight complainers I couldn't really tell. I apologize.

It took a day longer for all the nitpicking weirdos who think they could've made a better movie to show up.

 

[Insein]

People are forgetting that Ren took a direct shot from Chewie's bowcaster before fighting Rey and Finn. That thing was blowing up storm troopers left and right, so Ren was definitely not 100% for the final fights.

Plus why do we assume he is a master with a lightsaber or how far along in his training he was? I could just as easy seeing a guy like that just going for the power of the force and shrugging off his saber training as a kid with Luke.

Hr seemed adept enough when he slashed the computer console apart.

That is the final test to become a Sith.

At least we see him use it. Finn picks one up and he's getting his ### kicked by a stormtrooper with a stun baton. Then holding his own against Kylo. If Kylo is supposedly leading the first order on the front lines, I would think he had some combat skills with the only weapon he carries.

 

[JHuber77]

Supreme Leader Snoke looks exactly like one of those cloners from Camino in episode 2. Might explain why they don't use clones anymore.

 

[Sinn Fein]

For those who think this has been some rehash of IV...

- where was the ceremony at the end of the movie?

- Where was the teacher (Obi-Wan)?

- Where were a off world family that gets burned?

- Where was the imposing bad guy? (Kylo is no where near imposing)

- many more...

Was the story "formulaic"? Maybe a little but you have to remember that many of us are much older and have more stories to fall back on to compare it with. For a kid, that doesn't have the experiences we do, this movie is darn near perfect. A little myth, a little action, newer story, who is Luke, how does Han impact the future, what is Rey's past? Kids should eat this up.

I think it is a good stand alone movie - but it is pretty much a remake of the original trilogy - with particular focus on A New Hope. Sure they have moved some pieces around, but the main plot remains the same.

I think they had to do that to re-create the nostalgic feel of the original trilogy, and move on from the prequel trilogy. You don't set box office records without being able to draw in wide audiences - not just the kids - you have to get the parents. Now that everyone's faith in teh Force has been restored, I think they can branch out in the next two movies - knowing that there will still be some formulaic parts - we know the GG win in the end of the 3rd movie, we can probably speculate that there will be some type of reconciliation/reunion between Rey and Kylo Ren - but how we get there could be an open map.

 

[KarmaPolice]

People are forgetting that Ren took a direct shot from Chewie's bowcaster before fighting Rey and Finn. That thing was blowing up storm troopers left and right, so Ren was definitely not 100% for the final fights.

Plus why do we assume he is a master with a lightsaber or how far along in his training he was? I could just as easy seeing a guy like that just going for the power of the force and shrugging off his saber training as a kid with Luke.

Hr seemed adept enough when he slashed the computer console apart.

That is the final test to become a Sith.

At least we see him use it. Finn picks one up and he's getting his ### kicked by a stormtrooper with a stun baton. Then holding his own against Kylo. If Kylo is supposedly leading the first order on the front lines, I would think he had some combat skills with the only weapon he carries.

I agree that Finn doing as well is more problematic than Rey doing as well. I just didn't think it was just this huge deal that others seem to find it and ruin the movie for them.

 

[Insein]

Supreme Leader Snoke looks exactly like one of those cloners from Camino in episode 2. Might explain why they don't use clones anymore.

Not quite.

Kamino Cloner

Snoke

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Pretty sure Rey is Luke's daughter.

You have to figure, after the events of "Jedi", there wasn't much left for Luke to do. The Empire had been overthrown, all the other Jedi were dead. Luke probably went on an intergalactic tour as I'm sure there were billions of people/creatures that wanted to get a glimpse of the man who saved the galaxy.

Can you imagine the endless waves of Jedi-groupie trim that were being thrown at him? The guy would have had to have been neck deep in poon of all species 24/7/365. Eventually, it wore him down and he just said #### it and started dropping his cargo like he'd just seen the first sign of an Imperial starship. 3 ways, 4 ways, Eiffel Towers, all while Ben, Anakin, and Yoda watched and ghost-whacked off.

Eventually and predictably, the women he bedded, emboldened by the absence of Imperial tyranny, began filing child support suits looking for their share of the Skywalker fortune. Facing a lifetime of legal imbroglios, Luke fled to the first Jedi temple where he could Force choke his chicken in solitude. That map was being sought not only by Kylo Ren but by legions of women raising illegitimate Skywalkers who were tired of their kids waving their little hands and saying things like "You will give me another cookie now..."

The look on Luke's face at the end of "The Force Awakens" was born of the abject horror that accompanied the realization that one of his horde of ******* progeny had finally tracked him down. My guess is that episode VIII will begin with him taking his old lightsaber back from Rey, immediately chopping her in half with it, then escaping to some even more remote location in the Outer Rim where he can recede into a cave and lope his mule in peace until the sweet release of death finally comes.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Lol

 

[cstu]

I liked it. I don't think it lives up to all the reviews abs OMG OSCARS talk, but I liked it. It was definitely better than the prequels. Not sure it tops any of the first three. But it introduced compelling new characters and plots and is a good way to restart the franchise.

Two things hay bugged me:

Everyone got chummy way too fast. Someone mentioned this earlier. Maybe there was a reason for it, or maybe Abrams just had to get a lot done in a short time in this movie, but it felt unnatural. And some of the Han and Leia dialogue was a little ham handed and awkward, but again, maybe they just needed to catch these two up too quickly.

My bigger gripe is the light saber stuff. In the other movies it requires oodlesn of training to figure out how to use one. Here we have two folks pick up light sabers for the very first time and they out up a fight against (and even beat) a dude who at least clearly has some training with one and some force powers. Ten should have cut Fin in half on move one; the girl even with force powers picked it all up way easily. Again I think this is just a product of trying to cover too much in one film.

Kids today can't be expected to believe it takes years to learn how to do something.

 

[pats3in4]

EG...

 

[Insein]

Pretty sure Rey is Luke's daughter.

You have to figure, after the events of "Jedi", there wasn't much left for Luke to do. The Empire had been overthrown, all the other Jedi were dead. Luke probably went on an intergalactic tour as I'm sure there were billions of people/creatures that wanted to get a glimpse of the man who saved the galaxy.

Can you imagine the endless waves of Jedi-groupie trim that were being thrown at him? The guy would have had to have been neck deep in poon of all species 24/7/365. Eventually, it wore him down and he just said #### it and started dropping his cargo like he'd just seen the first sign of an Imperial starship. 3 ways, 4 ways, Eiffel Towers, all while Ben, Anakin, and Yoda watched and ghost-whacked off.

Eventually and predictably, the women he bedded, emboldened by the absence of Imperial tyranny, began filing child support suits looking for their share of the Skywalker fortune. Facing a lifetime of legal imbroglios, Luke fled to the first Jedi temple where he could Force choke his chicken in solitude. That map was being sought not only by Kylo Ren but by legions of women raising illegitimate Skywalkers who were tired of their kids waving their little hands and saying things like "You will give me another cookie now..."

The look on Luke's face at the end of "The Force Awakens" was born of the abject horror that accompanied the realization that one of his horde of ******* progeny had finally tracked him down. My guess is that episode VIII will begin with him taking his old lightsaber back from Rey, immediately chopping her in half with it, then escaping to some even more remote location in the Outer Rim where he can recede into a cave and lope his mule in peace until the sweet release of death finally comes.

That's how I saw it too.

 

[netnalp]

People are forgetting that Ren took a direct shot from Chewie's bowcaster before fighting Rey and Finn. That thing was blowing up storm troopers left and right, so Ren was definitely not 100% for the final fights.

Plus why do we assume he is a master with a lightsaber or how far along in his training he was?I could just as easy seeing a guy like that just going for the power of the force and shrugging off his saber training as a kid with Luke.

Hr seemed adept enough when he slashed the computer console apart.

That is the final test to become a Sith.

At least we see him use it. Finn picks one up and he's getting his ### kicked by a stormtrooper with a stun baton. Then holding his own against Kylo. If Kylo is supposedly leading the first order on the front lines, I would think he had some combat skills with the only weapon he carries.

Kylo seems to have some authority but there is that guy that gave the speech seems to be his equal. Could be Kylo is where he is simply because there aren't many people around embracing the dark side. We still aren't sure if the big hologram is someone with force powers.

 

[Riversco]

For those who think this has been some rehash of IV...

- where was the ceremony at the end of the movie?

- Where was the teacher (Obi-Wan)?

- Where were a off world family that gets burned?

- Where was the imposing bad guy? (Kylo is no where near imposing)

- many more...

The reason I use rehash instead of remake is because its not a complete copy with mostly all the same characters, etc. But the plot is so similar it is clearly a rehash.

Total Recall (2012) is a remake of Total Recall (1990)

Star Trek Into Darkness is a rehash of the plot of the Star Trek Wrath of Khan

Episode 7 is a rehash of the Episode 4 plot.

 

[Otis]

EG

 

[cstu]

EG

 

[cstu]

The First Order is going to hit back hard in the next movie.

 

[Insein]

The First Order is going to hit back hard in the next movie.

Perhaps even strike if you will.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Rey seems to be pretty clearly Han and Leia's daughter or am I missing a reason why this isn't so?

I assumed the second hand nature with the falcon was the nod there.

Well, wouldn't Han and Leia KNOW about something like that?

Of course... But they never said what they knew and what they didn't... But the expression in their faces was allowed to play for extra beats.

Like Leia, I would assume she was hidden away being maybe years younger than Ben solo when he started going sideways.

I also base this on the Kylo Ren reaction to her which granted could certainly be the force but he seemed to have a connection and showed her mercy.

Now, he could have done this for his cousin but I'm guessing sister.

Aren't the jedi's kind of monks? Didn't anakin get in trouble when he tried to love as a Jedi?

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

This movie definiently follows the same hero journey/monomyth structure as ANH.

The hero (or heroes in this case) with mysterious parentage

The call to action

refusal of the call

The helpful guide/sage

escaping the belly of the beast

the road of trials

etc.

That, and, of course, blowing up a giant ship or death weapon at the end but that applies to like 40% of Star Wars movies.

 

[sports_fan]

 

[Ladsud]

Why was Luke's saber blue and not green? Why would she have visions from touching the weapon if its a relation thing, while Luke felt nothing after picking up and using Anakin's corrupted child killing stink of a weapon? Not nitpicking, just wondering.

 

[cstu]

How awesome is the Dark Side? Think about it - in 30 years since the Empire was utterly destroyed they regrouped and built the Starkiller Base - a base powerful enough to blow up an entire star SYSTEM. The biggest issue with them is still a lack of quality control in their engineering department - they need to spend more time on analyzing their designs for weak points than how many stars it can blow up.

Leaked memos.

Let us know when you’ll arrive and we’ll deactivate the shields for you. By the way, your design of the shields to bar only objects traveling at sub-light speed was very smart; that design tweak saved us thousands, not to mention a full day of construction. As you noted: What kind of moof milker is going to approach a planet at light speed? No one, that’s who.

 

[Insein]

How awesome is the Dark Side? Think about it - in 30 years since the Empire was utterly destroyed they regrouped and built the Starkiller Base - a base powerful enough to blow up an entire star SYSTEM. The biggest issue with them is still a lack of quality control in their engineering department - they need to spend more time on analyzing their designs for weak points than how many stars it can blow up.

Leaked memos.

Or improve their leadership program to not churn out incompetent commanders like Phasma that will destroy her own base because she was asked with a loud voice.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

How awesome is the Dark Side? Think about it - in 30 years since the Empire was utterly destroyed they regrouped and built the Starkiller Base - a base powerful enough to blow up an entire star SYSTEM. The biggest issue with them is still a lack of quality control in their engineering department - they need to spend more time on analyzing their designs for weak points than how many stars it can blow up.

Leaked memos.

Or improve their leadership program to not churn out incompetent commanders like Phasma that will destroy her own base because she was asked with a loud voice.

She seriously folded faster than the Gatekeeper from the Princess Bride.

Oh, you mean these shield codes?

 

[jon_mx]

People feel Rey was trained and mind wiped?? Where did THAT come from?

Not saying I disagree, but just not sure why that would be a "thing" people are discussing

there have been about 100 posts on it in this thread alone along with a ton of other random speculation about Rey and the flashback scene and how she relates to either the Solo's or Skywalkers, why she was so good with the saber etc.

Lots of good stuff people have come up with but it is all idle speculation until we see EP8.

I think it is obvious she is the 'boy' that Luke was training. Then something happened that made Luke run away. Perhaps he was afraid he would go to the dark side. There are a lot of unanswered questions, but that is the hook for the next episode.

 

[Rick James]

Finn was on the defensive the entire time va Ren. I didn't think that fight was unbelievable at all. He got a lucky shot in and that's it.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Why was Luke's saber blue and not green? Why would she have visions from touching the weapon if its a relation thing, while Luke felt nothing after picking up and using Anakin's corrupted child killing stink of a weapon? Not nitpicking, just wondering.

That blue lightsaber was originally Anakin and Luke's. How it was retrieved after Vader cut off Luke's arm is a mystery. It was alluded to by the troll with the glasses after Rey picked it up.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Why was Luke's saber blue and not green? Why would she have visions from touching the weapon if its a relation thing, while Luke felt nothing after picking up and using Anakin's corrupted child killing stink of a weapon? Not nitpicking, just wondering.

That blue lightsaber was originally Anakin and Luke's. How it was retrieved after Vader cut off Luke's arm is a mystery. It was alluded to by the troll with the glasses after Rey picked it up.

 

[The Ref]

I may have missed it but why did c3po have a red arm?

I asked a few pages back..... Nobody seems to know or care.

I'm guessing it will come up in 8 or one of the sidebar movies.

 

[renesauz]

You guys have come up with great points about why Rey could be a Skywalker or why Rey could be a Solo.

One other thing I remembered was that during the scene where Kylo tries to read her mind in the chair, he says that Rey considers "Han Solo the father she never had"

Might be another possibility for the mind wipe as a Solo child to protect her...

That scene for me is the strongest reason why she isn't a Solo (that and Han having no idea who she is to begin with). Kylo says that and adds something along the lines of "He'll disappoint you." Given how he can feel his father's presence on the planet you would think he'd know who his sister was if he was reading her mind. Granted her memories of being a Solo would be removed and maybe Kylo's too (that's a lotta work for Luke to do there, wipe someone's memory after he's turned to the Dark Side and aligned against him) but I doubt Kylo would lose entirely the presence of his own family if he was near them.

She's gotta be Luke's kid. The whole flashback scene with the lightsaber and the weapon going to her when she wills it at the end make little sense if she isn't. Those two scenes screamed out a strong connection between Luke and Rey and not an Uncle-Niece kind. Plus having Luke be an actual father would be a good way of not just having him be the New Obi-Wan Father Figure. Gives him more at stake as well.

The movies are about the Skywalkers. 1-3 is Anakin. 4-6 is Luke. 7-9 is Rey. She's definitely his daughter.

Not saying the conclusion is wrong, but this logic is flawed. Yoda mentioned another hope besides Luke...clearly meaning Leia. More, Rey could be fairly close family...that "other hope"s child, and Lukes niece.

It seems virtually certain that Rey is family, but not at all clear/obvious that she is Luke's over Leia's

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Maybe Kylo and Rey are BOTH Luke's. Why would Han and leia name their son "Ben?" Obi Wan was only known as "Ben" to Luke.

 

[Ladsud]

Why was Luke's saber blue and not green? Why would she have visions from touching the weapon if its a relation thing, while Luke felt nothing after picking up and using Anakin's corrupted child killing stink of a weapon? Not nitpicking, just wondering.

That blue lightsaber was originally Anakin and Luke's. How it was retrieved after Vader cut off Luke's arm is a mystery. It was alluded to by the troll with the glasses after Rey picked it up.

I only seen the movie once, but It looked like the hilt of Lukes weapon that he crafted between Empire and Return. Not Anakins weapon that he went down into the abyss on Bespin during the Luke and Vader duel.

 

[Insein]

Maybe Kylo and Rey are BOTH Luke's. Why would Han and leia name their son "Ben?" Obi Wan was only known as "Ben" to Luke.

You remember that kiss in Empire and Leia said she did love her brother. Who's to say she didn't really mean she Love loves him. Incet is practiced in Royal families which the Skywalker's basically are.

 

[Insein]

Why was Luke's saber blue and not green? Why would she have visions from touching the weapon if its a relation thing, while Luke felt nothing after picking up and using Anakin's corrupted child killing stink of a weapon? Not nitpicking, just wondering.

That blue lightsaber was originally Anakin and Luke's. How it was retrieved after Vader cut off Luke's arm is a mystery. It was alluded to by the troll with the glasses after Rey picked it up.

I only seen the movie once, but It looked like the hilt of Lukes weapon that he crafted between Empire and Return. Not Anakins weapon that he went down into the abyss on Bespin during the Luke and Vader duel.

The old lady said it was Luke and Anakin.

 

[cstu]

Maybe Kylo and Rey are BOTH Luke's. Why would Han and leia name their son "Ben?" Obi Wan was only known as "Ben" to Luke.

You remember that kiss in Empire and Leia said she did love her brother. Who's to say she didn't really mean she Love loves him. Incet is practiced in Royal families which the Skywalker's basically are.

Leia is not a real princess - her mother was an elected 'queen'.

Luke is not royalty at all.

 

[Sinn Fein]

You guys have come up with great points about why Rey could be a Skywalker or why Rey could be a Solo.

One other thing I remembered was that during the scene where Kylo tries to read her mind in the chair, he says that Rey considers "Han Solo the father she never had"

Might be another possibility for the mind wipe as a Solo child to protect her...

That scene for me is the strongest reason why she isn't a Solo (that and Han having no idea who she is to begin with). Kylo says that and adds something along the lines of "He'll disappoint you." Given how he can feel his father's presence on the planet you would think he'd know who his sister was if he was reading her mind. Granted her memories of being a Solo would be removed and maybe Kylo's too (that's a lotta work for Luke to do there, wipe someone's memory after he's turned to the Dark Side and aligned against him) but I doubt Kylo would lose entirely the presence of his own family if he was near them.

She's gotta be Luke's kid. The whole flashback scene with the lightsaber and the weapon going to her when she wills it at the end make little sense if she isn't. Those two scenes screamed out a strong connection between Luke and Rey and not an Uncle-Niece kind. Plus having Luke be an actual father would be a good way of not just having him be the New Obi-Wan Father Figure. Gives him more at stake as well.

The movies are about the Skywalkers. 1-3 is Anakin. 4-6 is Luke. 7-9 is Rey. She's definitely his daughter.

When does Kenny fit into the picture?

 

[Ladsud]

Why was Luke's saber blue and not green? Why would she have visions from touching the weapon if its a relation thing, while Luke felt nothing after picking up and using Anakin's corrupted child killing stink of a weapon? Not nitpicking, just wondering.

That blue lightsaber was originally Anakin and Luke's. How it was retrieved after Vader cut off Luke's arm is a mystery. It was alluded to by the troll with the glasses after Rey picked it up.

I only seen the movie once, but It looked like the hilt of Lukes weapon that he crafted between Empire and Return. Not Anakins weapon that he went down into the abyss on Bespin during the Luke and Vader duel.

The old lady said it was Luke and Anakin.

Old Ben shoulda destroyed that saber when he had the chance. Anakin uses it to murder Jedi and children, Obi keeps it and gives it to Luke who failed with it, then they find it again and Rey has some connection to the weapon and something bad obviously happened when she was in previous possesion of it.

Come on Jedi, cant you tell a cursed weapon from one thats not?

 

[Insein]

Why was Luke's saber blue and not green? Why would she have visions from touching the weapon if its a relation thing, while Luke felt nothing after picking up and using Anakin's corrupted child killing stink of a weapon? Not nitpicking, just wondering.

That blue lightsaber was originally Anakin and Luke's. How it was retrieved after Vader cut off Luke's arm is a mystery. It was alluded to by the troll with the glasses after Rey picked it up.

I only seen the movie once, but It looked like the hilt of Lukes weapon that he crafted between Empire and Return. Not Anakins weapon that he went down into the abyss on Bespin during the Luke and Vader duel.

The old lady said it was Luke and Anakin.

Old Ben shoulda destroyed that saber when he had the chance. Anakin uses it to murder Jedi and children, Obi keeps it and gives it to Luke who failed with it, then they find it again and Rey has some connection to the weapon and something bad obviously happened when she was in previous possesion of it.

Come on Jedi, cant you tell a cursed a weapon from one thats not?

Nah dude its just a sword. Anyone can use it. Just like a club or a pointy stick. Nothing special about it.

 

[Mario Kart]

The end of episode 9 is going to see the light side and dark side come together to take down the new evil empire once and for all. Luke will bring the balance to the Force that Vader was meant to bring. That balance is a greying of both. The Jedi will become more like a government body than two factions trying to best the other.

Book it!!!!

 

[Smack Tripper]

Why was Luke's saber blue and not green? Why would she have visions from touching the weapon if its a relation thing, while Luke felt nothing after picking up and using Anakin's corrupted child killing stink of a weapon? Not nitpicking, just wondering.

That blue lightsaber was originally Anakin and Luke's. How it was retrieved after Vader cut off Luke's arm is a mystery. It was alluded to by the troll with the glasses after Rey picked it up.

I only seen the movie once, but It looked like the hilt of Lukes weapon that he crafted between Empire and Return. Not Anakins weapon that he went down into the abyss on Bespin during the Luke and Vader duel.

The old lady said it was Luke and Anakin.

Old Ben shoulda destroyed that saber when he had the chance. Anakin uses it to murder Jedi and children, Obi keeps it and gives it to Luke who failed with it, then they find it again and Rey has some connection to the weapon and something bad obviously happened when she was in previous possesion of it.

Come on Jedi, cant you tell a cursed weapon from one thats not?

Ben makes a lot of spotty decisions

 

[KarmaPolice]

Why was Luke's saber blue and not green? Why would she have visions from touching the weapon if its a relation thing, while Luke felt nothing after picking up and using Anakin's corrupted child killing stink of a weapon? Not nitpicking, just wondering.

That blue lightsaber was originally Anakin and Luke's. How it was retrieved after Vader cut off Luke's arm is a mystery. It was alluded to by the troll with the glasses after Rey picked it up.

I only seen the movie once, but It looked like the hilt of Lukes weapon that he crafted between Empire and Return. Not Anakins weapon that he went down into the abyss on Bespin during the Luke and Vader duel.

The old lady said it was Luke and Anakin.

Old Ben shoulda destroyed that saber when he had the chance. Anakin uses it to murder Jedi and children, Obi keeps it and gives it to Luke who failed with it, then they find it again and Rey has some connection to the weapon and something bad obviously happened when she was in previous possesion of it.

Come on Jedi, cant you tell a cursed weapon from one thats not?

Well, they couldn't tell a Sith lord and basically the devil himself was in the same room as them in the last couple movies.

 

[jon_mx]

Finn was on the defensive the entire time va Ren. I didn't think that fight was unbelievable at all. He got a lucky shot in and that's it.

Is it possible than Finn has the Force?

 

[The Ref]

Finn was on the defensive the entire time va Ren. I didn't think that fight was unbelievable at all. He got a lucky shot in and that's it.

Is it possible than Finn has the Force?

I think everyone has the force but some are more sensitive to it then others.

And don't give me any of that medclorian BS.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Finn was on the defensive the entire time va Ren. I didn't think that fight was unbelievable at all. He got a lucky shot in and that's it.

Is it possible than Finn has the Force?

Maybe Lando and Leia got it on?

 

[netnalp]

One of my issues with the film is that as a huge fan of the first three films I really wanted to see everyone together again. With Han dead that means that won't happen so the fact there wasn't a single scene with them together in this film stinks even more for me personally.

Surprised more fans aren't bothered by this. The last scene of Jedi was a huge celebration and the next thing you know Han is killed by his own son.

My first thought too. On the one hand glad we got to see them again but that would have really dovetailed nicely for me.

Not a big issue. It wouldn't add to the story. We know they are all close and if they did it would have probably appeared forced.