Jimbo Slice
Footballguy
Benson has the lisfranc. Out at least 8 weeks per schefter.
Who's the play? Go.
Who's the play? Go.
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Starks vs Green (1 Viewer)
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packersfan
Footballguy
I'm bidding nearly all of my remaining FAAB on Green. It's more than he's worth but my league's WW has been picked clean at RB and I've lost Ryan Williams so I'm going all in for Green this week.
Lost Ryan Williams as well, going for Green.
packersfan
Footballguy
On the bright side, if we get him it won't take much for Green to give us more than Williams was producing.
TidusOrlando
Footballguy
Would you guys drop Hunter or Andre Brown for Green or Starks?
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I have a feeling Slaton is going to be picked up by either GB or ARI by the end of next week.If not, I thought Green looked more explosive than I can remember last week. I remember thinking he was slow as all hell in the preseason but he must be fully recovered from that ACL tear now.'Nucker101 said:
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
'shadyridr said:
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Starks, Brandon Jackson Alex Green, Kuhn
Good luck.
Good luck.
Nucker101
Footballguy
Didn't know that, thanks! I think Slaton would be a good fit for this offense.
Probably not on a team right now because he fumbles too much
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Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
I would think Green gets first crack at it.
Clutch is Eli
Footballguy
I think Green gets next shot.
I would like to see Cobb in a Sproles-lite role... would boost his value. He makes plays. Get him the ball.
I would like to see Cobb in a Sproles-lite role... would boost his value. He makes plays. Get him the ball.
The coach seemed to indicate he was worried about the protection issues with Green. That might not bode well for him as Rodgers was sacked 4 times in the 4th quarter with Green in there.
Here is the quote from McCarthy and it is hardly a ringing endorsement.
"Alex did some good things, and there's some things he'll definitely learn from," McCarthy said. "He obviously had the big run, did a great job there and a nice job on the trap play.
"But there's some protection opportunities that we need to clean up and the course of certain runs."
Here is the quote from McCarthy and it is hardly a ringing endorsement.
"Alex did some good things, and there's some things he'll definitely learn from," McCarthy said. "He obviously had the big run, did a great job there and a nice job on the trap play.
"But there's some protection opportunities that we need to clean up and the course of certain runs."
identikit
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
If it were 2008, yes, but he's barely carried the ball since his dynamic rookie year.
smackdaddies
Footballguy
wrong. Kuhn will be 3rd down back. Green can't catch nor blitz pick up. Starks cant block at all. Play any RB with Benson out your a fool'Max Power said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
in the one league I got Benson in I snagged Green, Starks is total meh
packersfan
Footballguy
Why would the Lions trade him? Leshoure hasn't proven he can play a whole year and who knows about Best. I think Smith's very valuable to the Lions in case injury strikes there again.The guy who should be shopped right now with two playoff teams (Green Bay and Arizona) badly in need of RB help is Chris Ivory. He has no role in New Orleans and should be cheap. The Cardinals absolutely should make a run at him. I'd be happy to see the Packers do it as well but given Ted Thompson's history there's no reason to suspect he'll do anything here. Don't forget, when the Packers lost Ryan Grant a couple of years ago Thompson stuck with what he had and turned down the opportunity to get a legitimate starter like Marshawn Lynch when he was available.
shadyridr
Footballguy
and they won the super bowl
packersfan
Footballguy
Yup. Sadly, that season's starting to look like an outlier in a lot of ways for this current regime.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
they should trade for Oline-men, not a RB
packersfan
Footballguy
That and all the defensive players they can find.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Carolina Panthers to the White Courtesy Phone...STAT!!!
Man in the yellow hat
Footballguy
I disagree on the pass catching part. It's actually one of things McCarthy likes about Green, and Green also had a season wtih 27 catches for 363 yards are Hawaii. He's played in the spread, which is essentially what Green Bay turns into at times, and understands route running.That said, protection is an issue. And you'd expect it to be for a guy that missed the majority of his rookie season with an ACL. When you don't get to rep pass protection, you do have some rough times in game situations.
All that said, you might be right about Kuhn in obvious down and distance situations. Overall though, Green is the most explosive of the group in Green Bay, and has nice hands to boot. The pass protection will come.
McCarthy on Green in camp:
"He’s a young guy who needs reps. We’re definitely moving along towards him being a full-time player."
Interesting analysis here:
http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2012/08/21/packers-film-study-can-alex-green-pass-protect/
IIRC starks wasn't that bad at pass protection. Now that benson is out, do they even bother running?
but i went back and refreshed my myself with starks with this thread:
Starks breakout season
things to point out. after a terrible performance by starks, the packers picked up benson.
then he was hurt and there were rumors of him not even making the team.
green wasnt really impressive running the rock, but people talked about his big play ability.
fast forward to now. starks claims he is healthy, but turf toe is not an easy injury to recover from. he hasnt been healthy his whole career and was a "healthy?" scratch this past week.
even though green is also trying to come back from an acl injury, i think this year it has shown that rbs can come back from it, so far.
if i were to take a flyer on one it would be green, because he has the higher upside.
but i went back and refreshed my myself with starks with this thread:
Starks breakout season
things to point out. after a terrible performance by starks, the packers picked up benson.
then he was hurt and there were rumors of him not even making the team.
green wasnt really impressive running the rock, but people talked about his big play ability.
fast forward to now. starks claims he is healthy, but turf toe is not an easy injury to recover from. he hasnt been healthy his whole career and was a "healthy?" scratch this past week.
even though green is also trying to come back from an acl injury, i think this year it has shown that rbs can come back from it, so far.
if i were to take a flyer on one it would be green, because he has the higher upside.
Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
I'm a Benson owner who is a bit thin at the RB position so I think I'll make a run at Green this week just in case he does become the starter even if he does come off the field on third downs.
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
I really don't understand why they didn't just sign Grant on the cheap.
Not what I wanted to hear.
packersfan
Footballguy
I'm still going to aggressively bid for Green. I'm in dire straits at RB now so I'm going to roll the dice. I do have Starks as a conditional but I think Green is the more talented RB so if anybody's going to have success going forward I think it'll be him. Starks and Kuhn have the experience edge and that could help them in terms of pass protection but in my opinion Green is far more dynamic than either one of them and the Packers badly need an offensive jumpstart. I think Green's skill set offers them the best chance to get that at the RB position. I admit there's some blind hope involved with all this on my part but I'm willing to go for broke and see what happens.
One thing to remember is the Packers made no move in the offseason to sign a RB after letting Grant go. It wasn't until Starks got hurt that they signed Benson. Before that, however, they were perfectly content to go with a Starks-Green combination. That leads me to think they had a lot of belief in Green going into the season.
One thing to remember is the Packers made no move in the offseason to sign a RB after letting Grant go. It wasn't until Starks got hurt that they signed Benson. Before that, however, they were perfectly content to go with a Starks-Green combination. That leads me to think they had a lot of belief in Green going into the season.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I don't think the pass protection stuff is a deal-killer given Green missed almost all of his rookie season and was on a snap count during pre-season. He's raw. That might limit him for the immediate future (though it might not, Starks is pretty bad), but I don't think it says anything about his long-terms prospects. Most young RBs need time to learn blocking and ball security and he just hasn't had it yet.
Frank Costanza's Lawyer
Footballguy
DevilintheDetail
Footballguy
Well, the Packers have already had problems protecting Rodgers with an experienced guy like Benson in there. They know that if Rodgers goes down, that's the season. If Green really had a hand in giving up 4 sacks after Benson went out, then he's probably not going to be playing that much. The Packers can afford mediocrity in the run game, so long as the RB can protect Rodgers. Not sure how great Starks is at that, though.
Kleck
Footballguy
I think Green's hands are fine, and I like what he can bring after the catch. My concerns are with his assignments. Besides blocking/blitz, a couple of his runs that lost yardage looked to me like he took them outside instead of cutting up like he should have. On the bright side, it looked to me like Green forced a few missed tackles in Sunday's game. Something we don't see much from Starks.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Why are you on here? Don't post stuff like this. Area51 is helping the thread and you're just being a jerk. No reason for it. Sorry. Back to the thread. I know at one point the GB coaching staff was really high on Starks before the injury. They were bothered it took him so long to heal up but now that he is I could see him playing like he did before the injury (which I know isn't studly, but he could get the start).Keep us posted!
I guess you can break it down this way:Starks knows the system and all the plays. He's been there long enough. If he doesn't know them all, he probably shouldn't be a pro. Green may not know them and certainly hasnt had the practice & playing time Starks has had.Starks wont put up studly numbers, but he is adequate. Green may have the better long term potential, but that is no guarantee they will start him. This is a team that feels they are ready to take a run at the super bowl. They had a great season last year with a RBBC of Starks and Grant.They may plug in Starks to see what he gives them and develop Green a little before they give him a shot.at the end of the day, it is a tough call. Green played well (except for the blocking) and maybe they will see if they can get this addressed with coaching. Maybe they'll go back to the tried & true.Given that they think they are a super bowl contender, I dont think they wanna wait too long on the kid, so If they do play him, he will be on a short leash.Why are you on here? Don't post stuff like this. Area51 is helping the thread and you're just being a jerk. No reason for it. Sorry. Back to the thread. I know at one point the GB coaching staff was really high on Starks before the injury. They were bothered it took him so long to heal up but now that he is I could see him playing like he did before the injury (which I know isn't studly, but he could get the start).
