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Ok, its time to get serious about Fantasy again. I'm in one league that starts 2QB's. Other than the cheat sheet that Footballguys provide, I've always had a tough time finding information or mock drafts for this type of league.

Anyone know of any sites that perform 2QB mocks or have a customizable draft room?

If not, feel free to post your draft results here or give your player rankings (rounds 1-4).

Or......post any comments that are relevant to start 2QB leagues.

Good luck to us all!

 
i played in a 2 qb league for a couple of years. i don't have a cheatsheet for you or know of where you can do a 2 qb league mock, but my only advice, which is probably very obvious, is that you will definitely want to grab at least one qb with your first two picks, depending on 4 or 6 pt pass td's. you will be at such a great disadvantage without at least one stud qb because they score more points than any other position. good luck.

 
I participate in 2QB leagues as well and the way I've always handled them is usually 1 of each (RB, WR, QB) for the first 3 rounds, not necessarily in that order though. It is basically a necessity.

What I have found to be a good way to go about it though is make sure you draft well in the later rounds (not particularly measurable since most are just "blah" type players with upside) and then find an owner that you can flip those guys for a young QB that you believe in. One of my main strategies for dynasty leagues but if your talking about redraft then it would probably be a little different. But definitely get one early.

 
As someone who drafted badly in their first 2QB league let me tell you this: take a QB early. If you're sat there thinking 'well this is too early for a QB' trust me, it isn't.

 
Yeah, 2 QBs can be an absolute necessity (depending on scoring system and roster size). Grabbing an elite QB early such as Brady/Brees/Manning can allow you to breathe a little more later in the draft trying to find a viable 2nd QB but if you try to go the traditional VBD route and snag 2 QBs as they "fall" in the draft, you can get burned pretty quickly if a QB run occurs.

As a quick example for comparison purposes. Averaged over 13 Weeks assuming full year.

Team A [Takes a Stud QB and Waits for QB2]: Tom Brady and Joe Flacco = 343 + 296 [Average 49 FP per Week]

Team B [Goes Traditional and Waits for Both]: Ben Roethlisberger and Matt Schaub = 292 + 286 [Average 44 FP per Week]

Team C [Goes for Value and Waits Hard Both]: Sam Bradford and Christian Ponder = 280 + 211 [Average 38 FP per Week]

It seems like the safest route would be going with an Elite QB and reaching a bit for your QB2. I've done leagues where I've gone with 2 Elite QBs (Brady & Manning in 2012 in an early draft) which helped me offset the possible losses at RB/WR due to how good they were. Definitely worth doing mock drafts with the DD and seeing what happens in different scenarios.

 
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Size of league is as or more important as the scoring system. 12 team league? Don't screw around, get two qbs in five rounds, and keep track of all starting qbs to make sure you have a bench qb as some teams won't. If a starter is falling deep into the draft, add a 4th just like you would at RB, and seek trades. Some team is screwed. 10 team league? Lock up one and you'll likely find QB2 value a little later. Modestly deep bench? Handcuff stud qbs to avoid the wild ride in free agency when one gets hurt. I've won a dozen 2qb leagues in the past few years generally taking two in the first three rounds. I'm almost exclusively in 2qb leagues at this point. I'm a fan of Waldman's upside down draft strategy so waiting on RBs is fine for me.

Fwiw, I agree with most NFL GMs that QB is the most important position in the NFL. It just doesn't seem balanced, imo, that late QB theory is a successful strategy in fantasy. 2QB leagues put an end to that. I highly recommend adding one if you've never tried it. The game becomes more intense on several levels.

 
I'm in the 2nd round of a slow draft for a 2QB, MEGAFLEX (10 RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 DST 12 team PPR, with 6 pts for all TDs. Here was our first round:

1.01 - RB Adrian Peterson

1.02 - QB Aaron Rodgers

1.03 - QB Drew Brees (1.02 & 1.03 were by the same owner, after trading away his first 6 rounds.)

1.04 - QB Peyton Manning

1.05 - RB Jamaal Charles

1.06 - RB Arian Foster

1.07 - QB Tom Brady

1.08 - WR Calvin Johnson

1.09 - QB Matt Ryan

1.10 - RB Ray Rice

1.11 - RB CJ Spiller

1.12 - RB Doug Martin (!)

No clue why the Dougie hate, but that gives you a grip on the 1st round. I'll check back in with subsequent rounds if you like.

 
MEGAFLEX (10 RB/WR/TE)
I'm all for getting crazy with fantasy football, but this seems a bit extreme.

Just throw my entire roster into my lineup and hope for the best.
This is a league I set up and recruited owners online for this year to test out some wild ideas and theories I've had the last few years. I can't say yet how it will work out, but we're giving it a go. I like the idea of killing off roster requirements a bit, and seeing what happens. We'll start 14 total positions, with a 24 man total roster.

 
Chaos- I'm game if starting later thus week.

I used to play in a 2qb dynasty. Values are crazy, but if you think about it, they score the most, have the longest careers, and i think they have more consistency than rb or wr.

 
I'm in two 2qb leagues and have been for about seven years. It will depend if the league you're in is a start up (meaning everyone is new to 2qbs) or established. Startup will have guys clinging to the old mentality of rbs early and qbs later. Established will have at least 15 qbs gone in the first three rounds. So know your opponents.

I agree with the strategy of getting at least qb, rb, wr in the first three rounds. Any order but everyone has a different way to do it. It makes a draft that much more interesting.

 
I would participate

Basically the only way I don't go QB-QB is if I am staring at a WR or RB with a surefire shot at finishing #1 overall at their position, and the QBs I am looking at are deep with very little separation.

 
Well, counting me that's 6 looking for a 2qb mock. Halfway there not counting scheduling problems. I'd like to get it done before this weekend because I have two 2qb $$ leagues drafting then.

 
I'm down.

Throw me in the 4 spot if possible. I'm good any day but this Sunday. Hopefully we get it done before the weekend regardless.

 
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Okay. Wednesday night is probably too soon. Friday night generally interferes with someone's plans, so I am setting us up at MFL for Thursday night. 9pm est. If MFL is an issue I have Yahoo accounts for my 2qb money leagues there. If Thursday 9 eastern is an issue, let's hear it.

Spots 4, 12 and 8 are gone. 7 want in. Need five if there's no dropouts.

 
Simple.

Count #teams in league. 10-12?

Look at your starting positions and determine avg scoring for each spot QB1, Qb2, Wr1, Wr2, Wr3, RB1, Rb2, TE1, Flex.etc

Rank your players based on 2012 production and see how many were there.

1 tier = # of owners in a team.

Within each tier there might be 1.a 1b. 1c.

Remove non starters and IR. I.e Ryan Fitzgerald.

Add rookies in there someone and people that played in limited games. I.e. Collin Kaepernick. these guys sometimes slip through the cracks.

If there are 30 QBs and 10 teams everyone gets 3 right? I'd rather my 3 were Peyton Manning, Tannehill, Alex Smith vs Ponder, Weeden, Sanchez.

Know when to grab your targeted QBs. Check Strength of Schedule articles to see if some might have upside for playoff weeks or early weeks...then you trade them. If there's a run on QBs... see if it makes sense to grab one and then an RB or go back to back. Rivers, Alex Smith, Bradford, Cutler, Tannehill, Flynn, Palmer, Freeman, Dalton, Ej Manuel, Geno Smith all have upside but probably won't be taken in the TOp 10-15...or even 20.

If you're down to the bottom 15 of 30...and only have 1 QB then get 1 more and look at other spots based on what scoring averages dictate. If your QB2 = 20pts and WR2 avgs only 13. It's better to have that solid QB2 and mediocre WR2 with upside that only averages 9pts game.

I typically go Back to Back QB if that talent's there.

If it isn't I grab elite RB/WR

in 2 QB leagues I'm not afraid to end up with 4 starting QB because I know I can make a trade.

RBs can be replaced via Waiver Wire.

WRs harder to get top level talent as a surprise but there are some good little TD scoring gems.

That's where I look at rankings etc on FBG sites.

Good luck and enjoy

 
I consider 8 close enough. I can probably fill it via twitter if needed, but I expect it to fill here.

So PM me email addresses for the mfl invites. Site is ready. It's 2qb 2rb 3wr 1te 1k 1d 6bench, 16 rounds. I also chose common ppr scoring.

 
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12 team, .5 PPR, 4pt PaTD with the following rosters: QB, WR, WR, RB, RB, Flex, Flex, Superflex (QB/RB/WR), K, Def

Essentially a 2 QB league with added flexibility, so not essential to grab 2 QBs but obviously advisable.

Rodgers went in the 1st, Brees in the 2nd. The ADP drafter got Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan at 2.12 and 3.01 at the turn. That triggered a crazy QB run where the next 8 or so QBs went in the 3rd round, all the way down to Romo.

Should Manning/Ryan have lasted to the end of round 2 / beginning of round 3 in this league? Why/Why not?

 
12 team, .5 PPR, 4pt PaTD with the following rosters: QB, WR, WR, RB, RB, Flex, Flex, Superflex (QB/RB/WR), K, Def

Essentially a 2 QB league with added flexibility, so not essential to grab 2 QBs but obviously advisable.

Rodgers went in the 1st, Brees in the 2nd. The ADP drafter got Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan at 2.12 and 3.01 at the turn. That triggered a crazy QB run where the next 8 or so QBs went in the 3rd round, all the way down to Romo.

Should Manning/Ryan have lasted to the end of round 2 / beginning of round 3 in this league? Why/Why not?
All the flex options open the door for a variety of strategies. You can start 5 RBs. The league I commish is similar, but the 2qbs are fixed and there's a load of IDPs. Last year's champ dominated from the RB spot. I was runner up with very strong WRs. I've won it recently with defense. 2qb league drafts can be similar to auctions in that the values don't fully present until the draft starts. If QBs are falling do you wait on the value to beef up another spot (like the other owners who also have a shot at falling QB value). If round one starts with a QB run, should you take Peterson and maybe follow with Calvin? This is why I find these leagues more intense and more fun. I hate a standard draft that follows ADP against 11 other guys basically following Bloom and Dodds. Good luck beating 5 Blooms and 6 Dodds. Throw in that 2nd QB add a bunch of flex and Bloom and Dodds stop making sense as do ADPs.

 
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I think the top 3 picks in a 2QB dynasty are Luck, Rogers, Cam in some order.

After that I think you can look at other positions and hope you can get someone decent on the turn.

2QB also makes you more risk adverse, which would affect RG3's value some. Easier to favor Russell or Kap over him if you think it's close.

 
6am my time, I have 5 email addresses. So we're halfway there. I'd rather send out the invites at once so those of you who sent info don't get invites right away.

 
Start 2QB league keeper question for the board:

12-team, standard PPR scoring, start 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DEF. Passing TDs worth 4 pts, all other 6 pts.

I can keep one player from last year's team, to count as my pick in the same round I had selected him last year. I am debating between Calvin at the 1.12 (unlikely to keep), Doug Martin at the 4.01, RG3 at the 6.01 or Russell Wilson at the 10.01.

Standard logic would tell me to keep Doug Martin at the 4.01 given the value, however, it potentially leaves me at risk at the QB spot, and goes against my historical strategy in this league of targeting QB/WRs early.

Part of me wants to keep RG3 at the 6.01, which would allow me to take another top 10 QB at the 1.12 and an elite WR at the 2.01 (I am assuming that 4-5 QBs are kept, and another 3 or so are taken in the 1st round). I would then target Cousins in the 10th or so to lock in the Wash QB and protect my RG3 pick.

Alternatively, I could keep Russ Wilson at the 10.01, given the value, and then give myself quite a bit of flexibility in the first 6-8 rounds.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 
Question to those that've played in 2 QB leagues.

How high would you take the likes of Luck, RGIII, etc... in a startup dynasty here?
Definitely round 1-2 candidates

FWIW I just traded Eli+Fitz+2014 2nd for RB3 and Pitta, which turned out to be just for RG3. Most people in the league said it was a great move.

 
Start 2QB league keeper question for the board:

12-team, standard PPR scoring, start 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1K, 1DEF. Passing TDs worth 4 pts, all other 6 pts.

I can keep one player from last year's team, to count as my pick in the same round I had selected him last year. I am debating between Calvin at the 1.12 (unlikely to keep), Doug Martin at the 4.01, RG3 at the 6.01 or Russell Wilson at the 10.01.

Standard logic would tell me to keep Doug Martin at the 4.01 given the value, however, it potentially leaves me at risk at the QB spot, and goes against my historical strategy in this league of targeting QB/WRs early.

Part of me wants to keep RG3 at the 6.01, which would allow me to take another top 10 QB at the 1.12 and an elite WR at the 2.01 (I am assuming that 4-5 QBs are kept, and another 3 or so are taken in the 1st round). I would then target Cousins in the 10th or so to lock in the Wash QB and protect my RG3 pick.

Alternatively, I could keep Russ Wilson at the 10.01, given the value, and then give myself quite a bit of flexibility in the first 6-8 rounds.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I'd go Wilson, but this should be in AC forum

 
im in if youi need another
I have 6 PMs with email addresses. There's 5 openings. I'm doing this FCFS FROM MY PMs.

This mock will fill. You're not guaranteed a spot by claiming one in this thread. That was just a heat check for interest. You guarantee one by giving me a way to send you an invite.

MFL site

 
2qb mock at MFL, live draft, 9pm eastern, Thursday Aug. 1

IN: jbz, p park, gooals, gbill04, whitescandal, fubar, clifford, va703 and myself.

Need 3.

 

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