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Chaos Commish said:
Another "expert" 2 qb draft going down right now.

Again, I would have owned Brees and Rodgers and been fine from there. I guess the issue is these experts actually don't play in 2qb leagues. I'd love to get half of one of my money leagues to draft with half these guys. The experts would be starting Flynn and Bradford, if they're lucky.
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ESPN did one this year and it was clear they had no one that played in a 2 QB league. Year's past, they had people that understood the type of league it is and how to draft it. This year they could hardly be bothered. 7 QBs in the first 6 rounds. GTFO. Not a chance in hell there is a single legit 2QB league that doesn't have at least 7QBs go in the first 2 rounds. Not a chance.

 
Insein said:
Chaos Commish said:
Another "expert" 2 qb draft going down right now.

Again, I would have owned Brees and Rodgers and been fine from there. I guess the issue is these experts actually don't play in 2qb leagues. I'd love to get half of one of my money leagues to draft with half these guys. The experts would be starting Flynn and Bradford, if they're lucky.
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ESPN did one this year and it was clear they had no one that played in a 2 QB league. Year's past, they had people that understood the type of league it is and how to draft it. This year they could hardly be bothered. 7 QBs in the first 6 rounds. GTFO. Not a chance in hell there is a single legit 2QB league that doesn't have at least 7QBs go in the first 2 rounds. Not a chance.
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yep,

first 7 of 8 picks will be qbs in my 2 qb league

 
Insein said:
Chaos Commish said:
Another "expert" 2 qb draft going down right now.

Again, I would have owned Brees and Rodgers and been fine from there. I guess the issue is these experts actually don't play in 2qb leagues. I'd love to get half of one of my money leagues to draft with half these guys. The experts would be starting Flynn and Bradford, if they're lucky.
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ESPN did one this year and it was clear they had no one that played in a 2 QB league. Year's past, they had people that understood the type of league it is and how to draft it. This year they could hardly be bothered. 7 QBs in the first 6 rounds. GTFO. Not a chance in hell there is a single legit 2QB league that doesn't have at least 7QBs go in the first 2 rounds. Not a chance.
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Yeah ESPN's one was a joke. It looked just like a regular mock draft vs a 2 QB league one. Pretty poor effort for them, especially if people are going to actually refer to them for info. I hope my league does!

 
I do have a super flex league where we can flex QBs too. I treat that one as a 2 QB league pretty much. I've never had the #1 overall pick, that's why I requested it. Curious as to whether it's best to still go QB #1 overall or try and start with AD and then hope to get a solid QB on the round 2-3 turn. Or take Rodgers/Brees type at top of draft and see what's left at RB/QB on the turn. FBG 2 QB cheatsheet still rates AD #1 overall.

 
jbz said:
I do have a super flex league where we can flex QBs too. I treat that one as a 2 QB league pretty much. I've never had the #1 overall pick, that's why I requested it. Curious as to whether it's best to still go QB #1 overall or try and start with AD and then hope to get a solid QB on the round 2-3 turn. Or take Rodgers/Brees type at top of draft and see what's left at RB/QB on the turn. FBG 2 QB cheatsheet still rates AD #1 overall.
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This year seems deep enough @QB to pick RB and see what the 2-3 corner brings. I'd still probably take Brees. I also have a few superflex leagues and the scoring and leaguemates pretty much force an early qb run like a typical 2qb league. Of course the nice thing about a superflex is qb injuries aren't as debilitating.

Still need 2 for a 2qb mock at MFL tomorrow night 9 est. PM me an email to get in.

 
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Insein said:
Chaos Commish said:
Another "expert" 2 qb draft going down right now.

Again, I would have owned Brees and Rodgers and been fine from there. I guess the issue is these experts actually don't play in 2qb leagues. I'd love to get half of one of my money leagues to draft with half these guys. The experts would be starting Flynn and Bradford, if they're lucky.
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ESPN did one this year and it was clear they had no one that played in a 2 QB league. Year's past, they had people that understood the type of league it is and how to draft it. This year they could hardly be bothered. 7 QBs in the first 6 rounds. GTFO. Not a chance in hell there is a single legit 2QB league that doesn't have at least 7QBs go in the first 2 rounds. Not a chance.
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Yeah ESPN's one was a joke. It looked just like a regular mock draft vs a 2 QB league one. Pretty poor effort for them, especially if people are going to actually refer to them for info. I hope my league does!
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Which doesn't bode well for me following them. Pretty much the only guy I like anymore is Berry. This was just really half-assed for a group dedicated to fantasy. Berry wasn't even part of the draft which is why it probably went as badly as it did.

 
Thoughts on draft stratedy for 12 team superflex?

Starters are QB RBRB WRWRWR TE QB/RB/WR/TE

Pass yds 25/pt, td/6pt-for all

-3 for INT

10 yds/pt for rush and receive.

PPR with bonuses for hitting milestones ie .2pts/yd after hitting 100 all purpose yards, 1pt/carry after 20 carries, 2pts per catch after getting 7 catches.

Points for return yards also.

Tough to decide. I have the 11th pick in this 12 team redraft league.

 
gbill2004 said:
Is this draft still happening tonight? Still have not received the invite?
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No sense in sending them one at a time. We still need two. I'll see if I can find two via twitter. Or maybe this thread will come through soon. I'm not interested in a 10 team mock even thought I have a 10 team 2qb league. Different animal.

Start 2QB 12 Team Mock Draft @MFL tonight @9est.

We have 10, need 2.

PM email for invite.

 
Invites sent, no need to confirm here, just be nice to see all confirmed at MFL.

I haven't set the draft slot requests yet but I will before we launch.

eta: let me know if you didn't get it though.

 
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Goooals

ATSS

have invites but have yet to show.

Anyone want to 2qb mock in an hour and a half. PM me. I'll be away for about a half hour.

 
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Chaos Commish said:
Goooals

ATSS

have invites but have yet to show.

Anyone want to 2qb mock in an hour and a half. PM me. I'll be away for about a half hour.
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I don't see the point in doing this with 4 dead teams. Two was possible because I was going force QB picks every other round then turn them loose. But four? Pass.

 
We're going to try and roll with 9 and three autopilots, so if you're waiting in this thread for the word, get in the draftroom.

 
I'm in the 5th year of my 2 QB 1PPR league this year. 12 teams, never been outside the top 4 and won twice. Here is how I approach the draft.

Draft "normally". Specifically, I still am not afraid to go RB/RB, and have even gone RB/RB/RB in the first 3 Rounds.

My reasoning is simple. People get afraid of not getting a "good" QB so they draft people they shouldn't draft too high. what ends up happening is extreme reaches followed by "oh crap it's round 3 and I don't have a RB" which means your number 1 RB is a question mark.

Depending on position, I've typically gone something along the lines of RB/RB/WR/QB/QB(or WR) then value or upside from there. Typically, since RB are so scarce, you can get a really good WR beside 2 top 10 RB in these leagues as well. And it's not like your starters are Bradford and Kolb or something.

My QB strategy has been easy. Two guys usually within 2 rounds of each other that are top 15 then one guy with upside later as a flier. Last year it was Ryan and Freeman with Tannehill late (12th I think). Other people end up with Rodgers and Eli and have to start Shonn Green or Mendenhall.

Taking QB's too early relies entirely on you hitting on RB later in the draft. Drafting RB early has typically given me top 5 RBs on draft day from any position in the first round, I've once even gotten 2. The guys who go QB/QB have never won the league because of the RB they need to start. On paper, 2QBs early works, in reality you have a ton of points from 2 players and miss out on value picks later because you don't have a stable RB crew that gets carries weekly so you give something up. Specifically they have to roll the dice and hope it hits.

2 QB leagues work similarly to 3 or 4 owners doing basically an upside down draft, which means it doesn't work because too many are doing it. Upside down drafting is based off zigging when everyone else zags so you are the only one getting the value upside RBs later like Martin last year or Bell/Lacy this year. The pool is too diluted for you to shotgun it. Funny enough upside down in 2 QB leagues is going RB/RB in my experience

 
Chaos Commish said:
Nipsey said:
Chaos Commish said:
Another "expert" 2 qb draft going down right now.

Again, I would have owned Brees and Rodgers and been fine from there. I guess the issue is these experts actually don't play in 2qb leagues. I'd love to get half of one of my money leagues to draft with half these guys. The experts would be starting Flynn and Bradford, if they're lucky.
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Why do they bother doing one? Peyton in round 6? Comedy.
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Mock with us tonight, Nips.
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Too late?

 
If anyone is interested, I set up a 2QB auction on yahoo. Free, so treat it as a testing site.

Scheduled for Sunday August 11th 730pm, but can change that.

PM me if interested.

 
chickensoup said:
I'm in the 5th year of my 2 QB 1PPR league this year. 12 teams, never been outside the top 4 and won twice. Here is how I approach the draft.

Draft "normally". Specifically, I still am not afraid to go RB/RB, and have even gone RB/RB/RB in the first 3 Rounds.

My reasoning is simple. People get afraid of not getting a "good" QB so they draft people they shouldn't draft too high. what ends up happening is extreme reaches followed by "oh crap it's round 3 and I don't have a RB" which means your number 1 RB is a question mark.

Depending on position, I've typically gone something along the lines of RB/RB/WR/QB/QB(or WR) then value or upside from there. Typically, since RB are so scarce, you can get a really good WR beside 2 top 10 RB in these leagues as well. And it's not like your starters are Bradford and Kolb or something.

My QB strategy has been easy. Two guys usually within 2 rounds of each other that are top 15 then one guy with upside later as a flier. Last year it was Ryan and Freeman with Tannehill late (12th I think). Other people end up with Rodgers and Eli and have to start Shonn Green or Mendenhall.

Taking QB's too early relies entirely on you hitting on RB later in the draft. Drafting RB early has typically given me top 5 RBs on draft day from any position in the first round, I've once even gotten 2. The guys who go QB/QB have never won the league because of the RB they need to start. On paper, 2QBs early works, in reality you have a ton of points from 2 players and miss out on value picks later because you don't have a stable RB crew that gets carries weekly so you give something up. Specifically they have to roll the dice and hope it hits.

2 QB leagues work similarly to 3 or 4 owners doing basically an upside down draft, which means it doesn't work because too many are doing it. Upside down drafting is based off zigging when everyone else zags so you are the only one getting the value upside RBs later like Martin last year or Bell/Lacy this year. The pool is too diluted for you to shotgun it. Funny enough upside down in 2 QB leagues is going RB/RB in my experience
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Slightly different point of view then most. A lot of people like to get QBS early, recently in this 2 Qb mock we did I had to get Andrew luck in the 3rd round, about 11qbs gone at that point.

 
FUBAR said:
If anyone is interested, I set up a 2QB auction on yahoo. Free, so treat it as a testing site.

Scheduled for Sunday August 11th 730pm, but can change that.

PM me if interested.
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I'll be there.

ATSS_0100 said:
chickensoup said:
I'm in the 5th year of my 2 QB 1PPR league this year. 12 teams, never been outside the top 4 and won twice. Here is how I approach the draft.

Draft "normally". Specifically, I still am not afraid to go RB/RB, and have even gone RB/RB/RB in the first 3 Rounds.

My reasoning is simple. People get afraid of not getting a "good" QB so they draft people they shouldn't draft too high. what ends up happening is extreme reaches followed by "oh crap it's round 3 and I don't have a RB" which means your number 1 RB is a question mark.

Depending on position, I've typically gone something along the lines of RB/RB/WR/QB/QB(or WR) then value or upside from there. Typically, since RB are so scarce, you can get a really good WR beside 2 top 10 RB in these leagues as well. And it's not like your starters are Bradford and Kolb or something.

My QB strategy has been easy. Two guys usually within 2 rounds of each other that are top 15 then one guy with upside later as a flier. Last year it was Ryan and Freeman with Tannehill late (12th I think). Other people end up with Rodgers and Eli and have to start Shonn Green or Mendenhall.

Taking QB's too early relies entirely on you hitting on RB later in the draft. Drafting RB early has typically given me top 5 RBs on draft day from any position in the first round, I've once even gotten 2. The guys who go QB/QB have never won the league because of the RB they need to start. On paper, 2QBs early works, in reality you have a ton of points from 2 players and miss out on value picks later because you don't have a stable RB crew that gets carries weekly so you give something up. Specifically they have to roll the dice and hope it hits.

2 QB leagues work similarly to 3 or 4 owners doing basically an upside down draft, which means it doesn't work because too many are doing it. Upside down drafting is based off zigging when everyone else zags so you are the only one getting the value upside RBs later like Martin last year or Bell/Lacy this year. The pool is too diluted for you to shotgun it. Funny enough upside down in 2 QB leagues is going RB/RB in my experience
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Slightly different point of view then most. A lot of people like to get QBS early, recently in this 2 Qb mock we did I had to get Andrew luck in the 3rd round, about 11qbs gone at that point.
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Most of my leagues use IDPs and several flex positions so the quick survey I just did is from a weak and small sample of 8 leagues. 23 owners started RB RB last year. 1 won a title (RBRBRB, btw). 1 was a runnerup. 5 others qualified for the playoffs. 16 didn't make the playoffs. 14 owners started QB QB. 2 won titles. no runnerups. 6 others qualified for the playoffs (over half). So in these leagues last year QBQB seems to have been a smarter move than RBRB. I didn't bother to look at other QBRB, or WRQB, or any other combination. Looking at season ending rosters also suggested that quality in season management really solidified the championship teams through trades and waivers.

No draft strategy is guaranteed to be better than others. Fantasy football is fluid and fickle year to year. I am comfortable with how I draft (2 QBs in 3-4 rounds). Chickensoup is comfortable with how he drafts. Either way can win a league. What several of us are protesting is these expert drafts where the entire league is made up of Chickensoup's approach (draft normally). It's just not close to my experience. There's always a couple, but never all 12.

 
Yeah, I can draft normally because I know others will take 5-8 QBs in the first two rounds then enter the third with needing to take a RB. If things lined up for me , I could see myself taking a QB early. Say Rodgers at number 6. How could I pass that up? Or Brees at 10? But it doesn't happen.

Someone like Luck isn't going to put up 20+ a week, but he's also not going to put up super duds either. Those are the guys I target. I play safer than most probably. And QBs are just too similar past the top 3 or 4 in points per week to give up elite RB production in my eyes. Plus giving up the near elite WRs because going QB/QB means you need RB in the third generally? It's risky.

The best way I can put it is an example of what I may very well get out of the 5 position this year. Because its a 2QB I will probably get something like Martin, Ridley(or SJax), Marshall, Luck (or Wilson), and Roethlesberger (or Amendola). Something like that.

 
I do think difference between 10 and 12 teams leagues is crucial here. I would be willing to let 10 QBs come off the board before taking one in a 10 teamer to gauge how QB crazy my draft is going to be, because I'll still be able to come back and get two very solid QB2s in any scenario. QB is 24-25 deep and maybe more if the rookies emerge in camp/preseason. In a 12 team league, there are likely going to be more picks between your picks (draft slot is also important info, picking at/near turn makes it harder to time picks). So you might be looking at CK/Romo when you're up, but if you pass, that turns into Cutler/Freeman at the next pick, and then you're looking at Schaub/ASmith at the next pick.

Don't get me wrong, Cutler/Schaub is far from a disaster at QB in a 2QB league, but in a 12 teamer, the WW will start out and remain picked clean, including pre-emptive options. You'll have more competition for Manuel/Smith/Locker types later in your draft. It's just a more fine line to walk. Also, you're likely to see less erosion at RB/WR/TE between picks if QBs are coming off the board fast anyway, so you are giving up a tier or more at QB while RB/WR/TE is not degrading by a tier or more between picks.

Don't get cute with it in 12 team leagues. Get 2 top 12 QBs in the first 2-3 rounds. If your opponents are slowplaying QB, then pick off another solid QB2 in say the 6th. Do it again in the 8th/9th if they are still dragging their feet. Solid starting QBs ALWAYS have trade value in a 12 tm 2QB league.

 
chickensoup said:
Yeah, I can draft normally because I know others will take 5-8 QBs in the first two rounds then enter the third with needing to take a RB. If things lined up for me , I could see myself taking a QB early. Say Rodgers at number 6. How could I pass that up? Or Brees at 10? But it doesn't happen.

Someone like Luck isn't going to put up 20+ a week, but he's also not going to put up super duds either. Those are the guys I target. I play safer than most probably. And QBs are just too similar past the top 3 or 4 in points per week to give up elite RB production in my eyes. Plus giving up the near elite WRs because going QB/QB means you need RB in the third generally? It's risky.

The best way I can put it is an example of what I may very well get out of the 5 position this year. Because its a 2QB I will probably get something like Martin, Ridley(or SJax), Marshall, Luck (or Wilson), and Roethlesberger (or Amendola). Something like that.
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In my experience (nearly ten years in multiple two QB leagues), QBs fly off the boards in many / most drafts. Usually been 12 team leagues, straight forward lineups and scoring. I've seen top 3 picks be QB and 15 QBs go in the first two rounds as things that wouldn't even surprise me anymore.

If that's your draft you can certainly wait and succeed - zig to the zag - but you best have a plan to go with at least one starter near or below #25 overall if you wait a bit and in some leagues the cupboard gets bare pretty quickly.

 
Here's results from a competitive auction in it's sixth year.
* Designates my QBs
EJ and Geno was a strategy courtesy of Bloom in the "expert" draft I linked above.
(Sorry about the quotations, GB)


5. Adrian Peterson (Min - RB) $59
13. Drew Brees (NO - QB) $56
9. Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB) $56

15. Tom Brady (NE - QB) $54
10. Calvin Johnson (Det - WR) $51
I thought Brady would come cheaper, and gave up at 40 something.

8. Jamaal Charles (KC - RB) $50
11. Marshawn Lynch (Sea - RB) $50
7. Doug Martin (TB - RB) $48
29. Peyton Manning (Den - QB) $47
28. Trent Richardson (Cle - RB) $47
6. Arian Foster (Hou - RB) $46
95. Andy Dalton (Cin - QB) $46
16. C.J. Spiller (Buf - RB) $45
26. LeSean McCoy (Phi - RB) $44
14. Ray Rice (Bal - RB) $44
Dalton was the result of two QBless teams getting desperate. I've written about how to avoid this in the auction strategy thread.

2. Matt Ryan (Atl - QB) $40
27. Alfred Morris (Was - RB) $40
33. Tony Romo (Dal - QB) $39
35. Cam Newton (Car - QB) $38
31. A.J. Green (Cin - WR) $38
23. Dez Bryant (Dal - WR) $37
30. Brandon Marshall (Chi - WR) $37
59. Matthew Stafford (Det - QB) $36
39. Russell Wilson (Sea - QB) $36
82. Matt Schaub (Hou - QB) $36
Romo and Luck were my targets. I had a feeling the Romo bidder would never stop, so I did. Schaub also reflective of desperation late in the auction.

19. Colin Kaepernick (SF - QB) $35
*66. Andrew Luck (Ind - QB) $35
47. Julio Jones (Atl - WR) $34
74. Randall Cobb (GB - WR) $34
34. Jimmy Graham (NO - TE) $34
45. Eli Manning (NYG - QB) $32

93. Sam Bradford (StL - QB) $28
50. Roddy White (Atl - WR) $27
80. Jay Cutler (Chi - QB) $27
46. Steven Jackson (Atl - RB) $27
*25. Joe Flacco (Bal - QB) $26

42. Darren Sproles (NO - RB) $24
67. Frank Gore (SF - RB) $24
79. Vincent Jackson (TB - WR) $24
54. Andre Johnson (Hou - WR) $24
73. Alex Smith (KC - QB) $24
49. Jordy Nelson (GB - WR) $23
117. Brandon Weeden (Cle - QB) $22
44. Michael Vick (Phi - QB) $21
75. Josh Freeman (TB - QB) $21
53. Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB) $21

85. Dwayne Bowe (KC - WR) $20
106. Wes Welker (Den - WR) $20
55. Philip Rivers (SD - QB) $19
58. Carson Palmer (Ari - QB) $16

89. Reggie Wayne (Ind - WR) $15
113. Christian Ponder (Min - QB) $14
108. Tony Gonzalez (Atl - TE) $14
78. Matt Flynn (Oak - QB) $14
77. Jake Locker (Ten - QB) $14
109. Eric Decker (Den - WR) $13
128. Cecil Shorts (Jac - WR) $12

*102. Geno Smith (NYJ - QB) $10
119. James Jones (GB - WR) $10
154. Stevie Johnson (Buf - WR) $9
*61. EJ Manuel (Buf - QB) $9
158. DeAngelo Williams (Car - RB) $9
118. Mark Sanchez (NYJ - QB) $9
151. Mike Williams (TB - WR) $8

So it's Luck, who I love, Flacco who I'm ok with and the runnin' rooks.
I love being the guy with 4. There's two of us. There's also plenty to glean about comparative values in the $5 tiers above.

 
bump to a new week.

Let's see those draft lists.

Anyone care to share strategy if you are drafting 1-3, 4-6, 7-9 or 10-12? I say first 5 rounds only.

 
The one rule I follow without fail is "ALWAYS TAKE QB'S WHEN THERE IS MARGINAL VALUE AT OTHER POSITIONS!"

As Bloom said, they will be hot commodities on the trade market later.

Plus I love seeing the face of the owners that are playing the waiting game.

For example you draft at the 4 spot. Owners 1,2,3 are playing the waiting game. By the end of the 6th round everyone else has 2 QB's. That means 18 QB's gone. Owners 1, 2, and 3 think everyone has theirs, so they take a chance that one of their "Sleepers" get back to them at the bottom of the 7th. They figure the rest of us are trying to catch up at RB/WR.

Let's say the likes of Vick, A. Smith, Schaub, or Palmer are still out there. All great sleeper picks IMO

I draft Vick in the sixth and start to watch them squirm, as I say to the other owners, "We can make this a 9 team league right of the bat if we keep the QB run going!" or " There is a lot of value in getting a third QB right now."

Two other owners follow my lead and take Schaub and Palmer. Now they are panicked!

The owner at 3 thinks he can still get Smith and be alright, but then I take him on the return and they are stuck with Weeden, Ponder, Flynn, and like as starters.

This is an extreme example..........but I have done and seen it happen similar to this.

Then in week two you trade one of your QB's away for a decent RB2.

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
I do think difference between 10 and 12 teams leagues is crucial here. I would be willing to let 10 QBs come off the board before taking one in a 10 teamer to gauge how QB crazy my draft is going to be, because I'll still be able to come back and get two very solid QB2s in any scenario. QB is 24-25 deep and maybe more if the rookies emerge in camp/preseason. In a 12 team league, there are likely going to be more picks between your picks (draft slot is also important info, picking at/near turn makes it harder to time picks). So you might be looking at CK/Romo when you're up, but if you pass, that turns into Cutler/Freeman at the next pick, and then you're looking at Schaub/ASmith at the next pick.

Don't get me wrong, Cutler/Schaub is far from a disaster at QB in a 2QB league, but in a 12 teamer, the WW will start out and remain picked clean, including pre-emptive options. You'll have more competition for Manuel/Smith/Locker types later in your draft. It's just a more fine line to walk. Also, you're likely to see less erosion at RB/WR/TE between picks if QBs are coming off the board fast anyway, so you are giving up a tier or more at QB while RB/WR/TE is not degrading by a tier or more between picks.

Don't get cute with it in 12 team leagues. Get 2 top 12 QBs in the first 2-3 rounds. If your opponents are slowplaying QB, then pick off another solid QB2 in say the 6th. Do it again in the 8th/9th if they are still dragging their feet. Solid starting QBs ALWAYS have trade value in a 12 tm 2QB league.
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Read every word guys. Sig knows two QB!

here's my take: In a 10 team, Id draft as normal (taking BPA, filling out starter's) maybe w some gambling type moves. In a 12 Team, its a bit different ie. Lets say 10 teams wind up w three QB's (leaves two teams needing a min of four w/ only two QB's avail) Obviously one of the ten is hopin to trade a QB for a 1st Rnd pick (teasin) Odds are the bigger problem will be only five or six teams having three QB's (bye-wks/injury) which makes for more a bidding war then handouts to the guppies loaded w RB prospects. Hopefully you can avoid following suit on a run of WR's, and able to land the BPA w some dropoff to the next player in his position

 
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Good to see that 2QB support continues to grow. I think it should be the standard with the way the modern NFL has been trending and I struggle to motivate myself to play anything else these days. General strategy, I like to secure one top 3-5 QB as early as necessary and then target a high-upside QB2 in the middle rounds. I feel like if the QB2 only lives up to his ADP, I'll still be very competitive overall at QB, but if he can realize on that upside, the rewards can be enormous. For example, I won almost all of my 2QB leagues in 2011 because I consistently took Stafford as my QB2.

Chaos Commish said:
Here's results from a competitive auction in it's sixth year.
* Designates my QBs
EJ and Geno was a strategy courtesy of Bloom in the "expert" draft I linked above.
(Sorry about the quotations, GB)
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What was the budget/format for this one? Getting into more 2QB auctions and could use some more data to sift through.

 
dagilfer said:
Good to see that 2QB support continues to grow. I think it should be the standard with the way the modern NFL has been trending and I struggle to motivate myself to play anything else these days. General strategy, I like to secure one top 3-5 QB as early as necessary and then target a high-upside QB2 in the middle rounds. I feel like if the QB2 only lives up to his ADP, I'll still be very competitive overall at QB, but if he can realize on that upside, the rewards can be enormous. For example, I won almost all of my 2QB leagues in 2011 because I consistently took Stafford as my QB2.

Chaos Commish said:
Here's results from a competitive auction in it's sixth year.
* Designates my QBs
EJ and Geno was a strategy courtesy of Bloom in the "expert" draft I linked above.
(Sorry about the quotations, GB)
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What was the budget/format for this one? Getting into more 2QB auctions and could use some more data to sift through.
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$200 budget in a 12 teamer starting 2qbs,2rbs,2wrs,1te,2wr/te,1wr/te/rb and 7idps.

The winning bids are lowered a little because of the need for depth in flex starters and a few bucks for defenders. Without the d-guys and flex, Peterson, Brees and Rodgers are all $70 candidates.

 
Could anyone ever justify starting qb-qb-qb? Let's say others in your league just don't value qb's and Brady drops to you in round 2 and then one of the 2nd year guys is there in round 3 (Luck, Kaep, Wilson, RG3). You took Brees in the 1st. Would you ever take the QB in the 3rd with the hope of dealing him?

 
I think QB Flex will start gaining more and more support in 12 team leagues. And really wouldn't be surprised to see it become more of a commonplace. Bye weeks hurt the 2 QB format. (2 RB starting standard setup, which I'm not a big fan of, you can at least get production out of a 3rd down/goalline back during bye weeks)

My favorite setup is:

1 QB

1 RB

1 WR

1 TE

4 RB/WR/TE

1 QB/RB/WR/TE

Really allows you to develop your own strategy & not resigned to 'taking a 2nd RB (or even 1st RB)' because you have to etc...

 
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We start 2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX( RB WR TE ) 1K 1DST and is ppr. we have 7 on bench.

10 Teams Last year took QB in RD 4 Ryan, 10 Flacco, 11 Locker(dropped), 14 Wilson. Picked up Kaepernick on waivers later in the year,

Our league went from 10 teams to 8 teams this year. With that said plus knowing the owners in my league, I feel very comfortable taking Calvin #1 overall and look forward to see who falls to me at the 2/3 turn. Thinking about it... Even the 4/5 turn too CAN' WAIT !!!

It's all about league size and knowing your league. Plus when you have FOOTBALLGUYS You've already won !

 
My league is going to have 14 teams this year. We've never had more then 12. We want to keep the start 2 QB aspect.

I was thinking of making it:

- Team QB plus you can only roster two Team QB's. To ensure everyone has 2 qb's.

- One of the QB spots be a flex qb/rb/wr. To cover bye's.

Anyone have an opinion if these measure are necessary and/or implications I may not be seeing?

 
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Daywalker said:
My league is going to have 14 teams this year. We've never had more then 12. We want to keep the start 2 QB aspect.

I was thinking of making it:

- Team QB plus you can only roster two Team QB's. To ensure everyone has 2 qb's.

- One of the QB spots be a flex qb/rb/wr. To cover bye's.

Anyone have an opinion if these measure are necessary and/or implications I may not be seeing?
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The second option - Superflex helps things balance out a bit, and accommodates teams who didn't succeed in scoring QBs. (I won a Superflex league where the only QBs on my roster was Roethlisberger and Leftwich thanks to ridiculous RB/WR depth that year)

 
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