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Starters that are considered sleepers (1 Viewer)

Mr.Pack

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I'm looking for some Starting Pitchers that you would consider under the radar type sleepers....

Who ya got?

 
Justin Masterson....improved O....bit of a groundball pitcher.....good D in the OF if they hit flyballs on him...had decent enough numbers in 2011.

What about Jhoulys Chacin?

 
Guys outside of the top 200 I have picked up so far

AJ Burnett

Ryan Vogelsong

AJ Griffin

Brandon McCarthy

Johan Santana

Dillon Gee

Edinson Volquez

Justin Masterson

Chad Billingsley

I have others I like, but when it comes to value this is who I have actually picked up.

 
Justin Masterson....improved O....bit of a groundball pitcher.....good D in the OF if they hit flyballs on him...had decent enough numbers in 2011.What about Jhoulys Chacin?
Chacin is an interesting option if you can spot start him on the road. His 2nd half ERA was under 3 although his SO% was way down. The Rockies have thankfully scrapped the ridiculous 75 pitch limits so he should have a better chance for Ws.
 
Honestly, unless you're playing in a deep league or have large benches, it almost never pays to draft a 'sleeper' starting pitcher. I'd almost always prefer to play matchups when given the chance rather than filling a bench spot with a garbage pitcher.

If I am drafting late sleeper type starting pitchers, I'm going for a home run - preferably with high k rates. Younger guys, or starters that I think will do well given opportunities that aren't there right now.

Trevor Bauer would fit that mold. Dan Straily maybe. Corey Lubke and Andrew Cashner (coming back from injuries, so I'd probably let someone else take a chance on them.

I'm not rostering older guys on a whim like Johan Santana, Vogelsong, Volquez, Billingsley -basically everyone Mac posted- as I know what they can do but they aren't doing it again. Scott Baker. I'll take a wait and see approach - let them pitch a few starts and see if they have anything to offer and if they do, stream them in. These guys will be available all year long in every league but the deepest of them.

 
Everyone likes erasmo ramirez but he didnt even make the rotation. Keep an eye on him.

Estrada is not good. Everyone calls him a sleeper cuz of his peripherals but he always seems to have a blow up inning or give up a devastating hr.

Teheran looks like a stud this spring

Im a HUGE fan of harvey. Think hes gonna be a stud

Phelps is a deep sleeper but might not have a spot in the rotation.

Cobb should have a good year considering tbs great defense

Detwiler is really good and plays on a great team

Miller if he makes the rotation should be good

 
I think Porcello is going to have a better than expected season.
The podcast buzz is pretty intense on him. Terrific k/bb ratio in spring. Increased velocity. Maturing as a pitcher. Still only 24. Perhaps ready to make the leap. The interest from teams around the league. Definetly worth looking over.
 
Honestly, unless you're playing in a deep league or have large benches, it almost never pays to draft a 'sleeper' starting pitcher. I'd almost always prefer to play matchups when given the chance rather than filling a bench spot with a garbage pitcher.If I am drafting late sleeper type starting pitchers, I'm going for a home run - preferably with high k rates. Younger guys, or starters that I think will do well given opportunities that aren't there right now.Trevor Bauer would fit that mold. Dan Straily maybe. Corey Lubke and Andrew Cashner (coming back from injuries, so I'd probably let someone else take a chance on them.I'm not rostering older guys on a whim like Johan Santana, Vogelsong, Volquez, Billingsley -basically everyone Mac posted- as I know what they can do but they aren't doing it again. Scott Baker. I'll take a wait and see approach - let them pitch a few starts and see if they have anything to offer and if they do, stream them in. These guys will be available all year long in every league but the deepest of them.
It's all relative. I'm not drafting guys like Santana, Vogelsong, Billingsley, etc. in a 25-30 man league, but 40? Absolutely. Higher K guys, see Samardzjia last year, are the types to target in 25-30 man leagues.
 
Are most of these guys really "sleepers?" Harvey? Burnett? C'mon...who doesn't know about those types? Not dogging anyone in particular, much, but guys like that don't say "sleeper" to me.

My sleeper? Ryu. He's been up and down so far in Cactus play, but his contract will almost guarantee he gets a rotation spot. He's left-handed, he gets strikeouts, and is being paid a ton so he's probably going to be given a lot of rope.

Plus, he gets to pitch half his games in Dodger Stadium. Potentially getting to pitch in AT&T and Petco won't hurt him either.

 
Are most of these guys really "sleepers?" Harvey? Burnett? C'mon...who doesn't know about those types? Not dogging anyone in particular, much, but guys like that don't say "sleeper" to me.My sleeper? Ryu. He's been up and down so far in Cactus play, but his contract will almost guarantee he gets a rotation spot. He's left-handed, he gets strikeouts, and is being paid a ton so he's probably going to be given a lot of rope. Plus, he gets to pitch half his games in Dodger Stadium. Potentially getting to pitch in AT&T and Petco won't hurt him either.
Ryu is ranked #304 in Yahoo. 294 - Griffin295 - Fiers298 - Tillman306 - T Bauer308 - Gee327 - Niemann332 - Cashner389 - Billingsley400 - N Feliz
 
Are most of these guys really "sleepers?" Harvey? Burnett? C'mon...who doesn't know about those types? Not dogging anyone in particular, much, but guys like that don't say "sleeper" to me.My sleeper? Ryu. He's been up and down so far in Cactus play, but his contract will almost guarantee he gets a rotation spot. He's left-handed, he gets strikeouts, and is being paid a ton so he's probably going to be given a lot of rope. Plus, he gets to pitch half his games in Dodger Stadium. Potentially getting to pitch in AT&T and Petco won't hurt him either.
Ryu is ranked #304 in Yahoo.
Ryu is interesting pick. Early reports are all over the map. His fastball is nothing special so he'll have to be able to change speeds and demonstrate command with other pitches. I think he can be effective for LA in real-lifebut I don't know about his fantasy value. I doubt he'll be able to sustain a high enough strikeout rate to be a plus contributor in that category. If he finds himself having to nibble constantly, he could end up being a WHIP killer. I wouldn't have a problem with drafting but I'd think twice about starting him for his first start.
 
'Mr. Pickles said:
Kazmir looks like a guy just throwing rather than pitching. Ibanez just hit one about 460 feet off him.
Supposedly his slider is back, one of those add now ask questions later types in deep leagues.
 
'Mr. Pickles said:
Kazmir looks like a guy just throwing rather than pitching. Ibanez just hit one about 460 feet off him.
Supposedly his slider is back, one of those add now ask questions later types in deep leagues.
Well, after I posted that, Seager hit a deep triple and there was a 420 foot double that smacked the center field wall. I'm not buying that much has changed.
 
Lance Lynn? High K potential but lacked consistency after moving to the rotation last season. I think hes a better bet than Cashner.

 
Lance Lynn? High K potential but lacked consistency after moving to the rotation last season. I think hes a better bet than Cashner.
Two completely different tiers of pitching when comparing Lynn and Cashner. Lynn won 18 games last season with more than a K per IP and decent ratios. He's a middle round pick. Cashner has six career starts, an injury he's battling, and an uncertain role on the pitching staff. He's an upside late-round pick.
 
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Surprised no one has brought Brandon Maurer to the table. He's owned(by me), in all of my leagues, so I'll provide some biased gushing for folks who may not know hi yet. Hype is building, but he may only cost you an add/drop at this point. He was fighting for the 5th spot in the rotation, and beat out Erasmo Ramirez. He was actually given the #4 job over Beavan(wont be skipped on short weeks).

Great spring numbers and 4 pitch mix makes him pretty solid as a sleeper. Gonna need to stay healthy, but so far so good. Minor league pitcher of the year for Seattle, and is now thought be ranked ahead of Hultzen/Paxton, and behind Taijuan Walker.

 
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Surprised no one has brought Brandon Maurer to the table. He's owned(by me), in all of my leagues, so I'll provide some biased gushing for folks who may not know hi yet. Hype is building, but he may only cost you an add/drop at this point. He was fighting for the 5th spot in the rotation, and beat out Erasmo Ramirez. He was actually given the #4 job over Beavan(wont be skipped on short weeks).Great spring numbers and 4 pitch mix makes him pretty solid as a sleeper. Gonna need to stay healthy, but so far so good. Minor league pitcher of the year for Seattle, and is now thought be ranked ahead of Hultzen/Paxton, and behind Taijuan Walker.
Just picked him up...like his stats :thumbup:
 
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Lance Lynn? High K potential but lacked consistency after moving to the rotation last season. I think hes a better bet than Cashner.
Two completely different tiers of pitching when comparing Lynn and Cashner. Lynn won 18 games last season with more than a K per IP and decent ratios. He's a middle round pick. Cashner has six career starts, an injury he's battling, and an uncertain role on the pitching staff. He's an upside late-round pick.
I really like Cashner in keeper leagues. Starting in the pen, but I am sure he is heading back to the rotation at some point. Injuries are the only concern of mine (and obviously is a big concern with him).People seem really down on Lynn, he struggled later in the year last year, but I think he is going to have a big year. (ERA/WHIP, obviously can't project wins)
 
Looks like Fernandez is going to play his AAA season in the big leauges. I'd pick him up now in case he is ready earlier then they think

 
Are most of these guys really "sleepers?" Harvey? Burnett? C'mon...who doesn't know about those types? Not dogging anyone in particular, much, but guys like that don't say "sleeper" to me.My sleeper? Ryu. He's been up and down so far in Cactus play, but his contract will almost guarantee he gets a rotation spot. He's left-handed, he gets strikeouts, and is being paid a ton so he's probably going to be given a lot of rope.Plus, he gets to pitch half his games in Dodger Stadium. Potentially getting to pitch in AT&T and Petco won't hurt him either.
Ryu is ranked #304 in Yahoo.
Ryu is interesting pick. Early reports are all over the map. His fastball is nothing special so he'll have to be able to change speeds and demonstrate command with other pitches. I think he can be effective for LA in real-lifebut I don't know about his fantasy value. I doubt he'll be able to sustain a high enough strikeout rate to be a plus contributor in that category. If he finds himself having to nibble constantly, he could end up being a WHIP killer. I wouldn't have a problem with drafting but I'd think twice about starting him for his first start.
Ryu had mixed results last night. On the plus side, he didn't walk anybody and kept the ball down. He's pretty polished, has good command and some idea of what he wants to do with hitters.

On the minus side, he was very hittable. The ump wasn't giving him the outside strike on RHBs and he had to come into the zone. Once he was there, he didn't have the stuff to overpower anyone. He had 5 Ks but 4 of them came from the bottom third of the Giants' lineup.

As a hitter, his jog down the baseline after his last AB was ridiculously lakadasical. It ought to earn him a date with the Dodgers' kangaroo court if there still is such a thing.

 

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