Starting a player against your own defense (5 Viewers)

[OnTheReg]

This isn't a who do I start, so please don't take it as such. I'm just curious what others do in my current position this week.

I have Brady, but I also have the Steelers Defense. Do you just roll with both and hope for the best? What do you do when you have a player against your starting defense. I mean, the Steelers have been way too good to bench, so that's not happening.

When you are faced with a similar situation, do you just hope for the best or what?

 

[Breesisdaman]

You always play the best players regardless. If you have a better defense plug them in otherwise your offensive players will score the same points regardless if you are playing their defense or not.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Benching him isn't going to make him score less points against your D

 

[Sammy Traveller]

one nice thing is, if your starting QB throws two picks against your starting defense for two TD's, his interception penalty is canceled out by the defense's interception bonus and you still get your TD's!

 

[gethugefast1]

Does ur DST get points for Fumbles, Interceptions, Defensive TDs & Special team Touchdowns?

Don't worry about the TDs & yardage ur guy scores against ur DST.

 

[CowboysHomer]

Benching his isn't going to make him score less points against your D

/thread

 

[LordHusker]

It's fantasy freaking football. Stop overthinking it.

 

[Corey O]

This isn't a who do I start, so please don't take it as such. I'm just curious what others do in my current position this week.I have Brady, but I also have the Steelers Defense. Do you just roll with both and hope for the best? What do you do when you have a player against your starting defense. I mean, the Steelers have been way too good to bench, so that's not happening. When you are faced with a similar situation, do you just hope for the best or what?

Wow. Some of these resposes are unreal.#1 It depends on who your backup QB is and his level of quality.#2 It is possible to have success starting an offensive player and DEF from the same team. However (and I do mean a big however) CAUTION, ALERT, & NOTE: We all know that the Steel City can bring the sconion, terrible towel, and the kitchen sink all rolled-up into one huge IED; especially on their own cold and windy turf. The forecast Sunday night is 38°F, WSW wind @ 6 mph, w/30% chance of showers. Also The Steelers plan to run Mendy up their mediocre run defensive throats (ala Peyton Hillis); which means the Steelers will likely dominate TOP.#3 That "always start your studs rhetoric has already tanked thousands of fantasy squads this year." To the naysayers, don't have me post a laundry list of "STUDS" that are NOT getting it done. I understand the general concept; however, are you going to intentionally walk into the line of fire just because you're wearing the latest high-caliber ballistic body armor (stud armor that is)? I didn't think so. Watcha wanna do is pick your battles. Nobody is matchup-proof. I'd like to think T.O. is; as I've started him every week. For the most part, he's done alright. Same for A-Rod. But they've both tallied a couple of mediocre weeks. That's exactly why I have started Orton some weeks over A-Rod. Nobody, and I mean nobody is matchup-proof. Of course, should you not possess a quality back-up; then ya gotta do watcha gotta do.'Not tryin' to scare you, but after that @^@% whipping Brady took from the Browns, I'd be hesitant to start him up against one of the league's premiere homefield defenses. Though they've given-up 240 yards per game by air, they've only given up less than a TD per game and have a little over an INT per game.If ya start Brady, hopefully for you, he takes last week's shellacking to heart and comes out with a vengeance. But that Steel City ain't no joke.Good luck; 'hope you make the playoffs.'Nation.......

 

[Corey O]

It's fantasy freaking football. Stop overthinking it.

I don't know 'bout you, but I'm tryin' to win a 55 Hun' League Prize and 300K Grand Prize. Maybe he is too. 'Nuff Said.WCOFF Main Event ('Jersey draft), League 66'Nation.......

 

[Chaka]

The Steelers defense is mediocre against the pass.

 

[PatsFanCT]

This isn't a who do I start, so please don't take it as such. I'm just curious what others do in my current position this week.I have Brady, but I also have the Steelers Defense. Do you just roll with both and hope for the best? What do you do when you have a player against your starting defense. I mean, the Steelers have been way too good to bench, so that's not happening. When you are faced with a similar situation, do you just hope for the best or what?

Wow. Some of these resposes are unreal.#1 It depends on who your backup QB is and his level of quality.#2 It is possible to have success starting an offensive player and DEF from the same team. However (and I do mean a big however) CAUTION, ALERT, & NOTE: We all know that the Steel City can bring the sconion, terrible towel, and the kitchen sink all rolled-up into one huge IED; especially on their own cold and windy turf. The forecast Sunday night is 38°F, WSW wind @ 6 mph, w/30% chance of showers. Also The Steelers plan to run Mendy up their mediocre run defensive throats (ala Peyton Hillis); which means the Steelers will likely dominate TOP.#3 That "always start your studs rhetoric has already tanked thousands of fantasy squads this year." To the naysayers, don't have me post a laundry list of "STUDS" that are NOT getting it done. I understand the general concept; however, are you going to intentionally walk into the line of fire just because you're wearing the latest high-caliber ballistic body armor (stud armor that is)? I didn't think so. Watcha wanna do is pick your battles. Nobody is matchup-proof. I'd like to think T.O. is; as I've started him every week. For the most part, he's done alright. Same for A-Rod. But they've both tallied a couple of mediocre weeks. That's exactly why I have started Orton some weeks over A-Rod. Nobody, and I mean nobody is matchup-proof. Of course, should you not possess a quality back-up; then ya gotta do watcha gotta do.'Not tryin' to scare you, but after that @^@% whipping Brady took from the Browns, I'd be hesitant to start him up against one of the league's premiere homefield defenses. Though they've given-up 240 yards per game by air, they've only given up less than a TD per game and have a little over an INT per game.If ya start Brady, hopefully for you, he takes last week's shellacking to heart and comes out with a vengeance. But that Steel City ain't no joke.Good luck; 'hope you make the playoffs.'Nation.......

Predicting Tom Brady and the Patriots demise this week based solely on last weeks performance isn't very smart.First of all, Payton Hillis is the first and only RB to put up over 90 yards against that mediocre rush defense, so assuming Mendy is going to do something Adrian Peterson couldn't is a bit of a stretch.Second, the Steelers aren't really all that great against the pass, while the Pats have an excellent passing offense.The Steelers haven't exactly been world beaters the past few weeks, looking like crap against the Saints and letting the Bengals, for the most part, have their way with them through the air.And lastly, the Pats have only lost back to back games twice in the past 8-10 years, so another uninspiring game this week isn't very likely.However, the Steelers are at home and they are a solid defense, but I expect both the Steelers Defense and Tom Brady to do very well this week, so if I were the OP, I wouldn't hesitate a bit starting both.

 

[OnTheReg]

I appreciate the responses guys. To the poster who told me to stop "over thinking" it because its fantasy football, well what the hell are you doing on a fantasy football board to begin with?

This is a completely valid issue that I'm sure a lot of other owners grapple with. I am gonna roll with Brady and the Steelers. Other options this week are Cutler and Shaun Hill, and I'm not confident enough in either to throw in over Brady.

 

[BassNBrew]

Assuming you have similair options on the bench. Start Brady and Pitt D if you're the favorite this week or leading big coming out of Thursday nite. If you're a big under dog or losing big after Thursday nite, start the one that you'll think will score the best and look elsewhere for you're second starter. If all things in your matchup look relatively equal, go with the players you have projected to score the best this week.

 

[Chaka]

I appreciate the responses guys. To the poster who told me to stop "over thinking" it because its fantasy football, well what the hell are you doing on a fantasy football board to begin with?

This is a completely valid issue that I'm sure a lot of other owners grapple with. I am gonna roll with Brady and the Steelers. Other options this week are Cutler and Shaun Hill, and I'm not confident enough in either to throw in over Brady.

The fact that they are both on your roster is irrelevant to the question, questions actually. you are asking.The question(s) really belongs in the ACF "Should I start Brady against Pitt DST?" and "Should I start Pitt DST against NEP?"

And the answer are "Yes if they are your best players at those positions on your roster." But to properly answer that we will need to know your other options which is why this should be in the ACF.

 

[Insein]

Stated above but a nice advantage is if your QB throws a pick, it washes itself out. Last week I had Fitzpatrick and Chicago Defense. Helped to not lose the points I normally would for picks with Fitz.

 

[Rovers]

You start the players that you beleive will score the most points. Forget what defenses you have. Do you think Brady will outscore both Hill and Cutler? Then you start him. You can also look over the WW for FA QB's. Bottom line, if you think Brady will score the most points, you start him. Having the PIT defense should be an entirely different and seperate issue. Personally, I like Hill over Brady. Brady just hasn't been putting up good numbers since Moss left, and now the Steelers at home? Heck, I might even go Cutler over Brady this week.

 

[Corey O]

Predicting Tom Brady and the Patriots demise this week based solely on last weeks performance isn't very smart.

First of all, Payton Hillis is the first and only RB to put up over 90 yards against that mediocre rush defense, so assuming Mendy is going to do something Adrian Peterson couldn't is a bit of a stretch.

Surely you jest, right? Wow. Let me take a sec' to compose myself. "demise?" "solely?"1.) I could care less if your Pat's win, lose, or tie. Let's make that quite clear. So I don't know where you got your "demise" from.

2.) You probably want to slowly and methodically read the post in question before haphazardly tossing out words like "solely."

Per: http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2010/...eek-10-edition/

Rashard Mendenhall's upcoming schedule has four good match-ups (New England, Buffalo, Cincinnati and Carolina).

Per: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/...=36719&pg=4

According to Pro Football Focus, Rocket Rashard generated 66 percent of his yards after contact. The Steelers will have to rely on Mendenhall more heavily going forward due to LT Max Starks' year-ending neck injury. The Pats have also been obliterated by running games in back-to-back weeks, letting up 218 total yards and two TDs to Minnesota backs in Week 8, before Peyton Hillis' 220-total yard, two-score thrashing last week. They've plummeted to 21st in the run defense rankings.

Need I go on?

Second, the Steelers aren't really all that great against the pass, while the Pats have an excellent passing offense.

The Steelers haven't exactly been world beaters the past few weeks, looking like crap against the Saints and letting the Bengals, for the most part, have their way with them through the air.

And lastly, the Pats have only lost back to back games twice in the past 8-10 years, so another uninspiring game this week isn't very likely.

However, the Steelers are at home and they are a solid defense, but I expect both the Steelers Defense and Tom Brady to do very well this week, so if I were the OP, I wouldn't hesitate a bit starting both.

Again refer to the aforementioned passage, regarding their pass defense. Who said that their pass defense exclusively, was all that great?By now, you've got me and my Shih Tzu 'Shaggy' looking at each other and sleepily yawning.

So what you're telling me is....... They've lost back-to-back games before. Right? There ya go. 'Nuff said.

I'm working at the FireHouse for 24 hours on Sunday. I'll get back to ya Monday and read what you have to say on how you guys made out.

Oh yeah....... For a guy who's team got away with the most shining example of highway thievery, you sure are pretty testy.

Like somebody is personally attacking your team. Who cares? This is fantasy football, not a popularity contest. And yes, I was referring to 'The Great Snow Heist.'

'Nation..........

I appreciate the responses guys. To the poster who told me to stop "over thinking" it because its fantasy football, well what the hell are you doing on a fantasy football board to begin with?

This is a completely valid issue that I'm sure a lot of other owners grapple with. I am gonna roll with Brady and the Steelers. Other options this week are Cutler and Shaun Hill, and I'm not confident enough in either to throw in over Brady.

That's cool...... Brady it is. Just know that only one team (Indy) passes more early and more often than the Lions. Also, Buffalo is pretty tight with yardage allowing a 6th best 193 yards, however, they are last in the league at TD-INT ratio, giving up 17 TDs to 1 INT. I'd personally go Shaun Hill. Like Arnold, I'll be back to check you out.

'Nation............

 

[SouthJersey]

hahahah wow...Corey O is aggressive!

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

It depends on your scoring system. I am in a league where the D/ST scoring is very liberal. We start @ the league average points allowed (22). So when starting the game, your D has 22 fantasy points. So, if was in your league and had to start Brady and the PIT D, every TD Brady threw would cost me 6 as well.

In my league (16 team keeper), I almost never allow that to happen, but I am forced to start Torain against the Eagles this week.

So, yes it is a valid question to some people.

 

[snellman]

Can't believe this hasn't been brought up:

Play IDP

/thread

 

[PatsFanCT]

Predicting Tom Brady and the Patriots demise this week based solely on last weeks performance isn't very smart.

First of all, Payton Hillis is the first and only RB to put up over 90 yards against that mediocre rush defense, so assuming Mendy is going to do something Adrian Peterson couldn't is a bit of a stretch.

Surely you jest, right? Wow. Let me take a sec' to compose myself. "demise?" "solely?"1.) I could care less if your Pat's win, lose, or tie. Let's make that quite clear. So I don't know where you got your "demise" from.

2.) You probably want to slowly and methodically read the post in question before haphazardly tossing out words like "solely."

Per: http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2010/...eek-10-edition/

Rashard Mendenhall's upcoming schedule has four good match-ups (New England, Buffalo, Cincinnati and Carolina).

Per: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/...=36719&pg=4

According to Pro Football Focus, Rocket Rashard generated 66 percent of his yards after contact. The Steelers will have to rely on Mendenhall more heavily going forward due to LT Max Starks' year-ending neck injury. The Pats have also been obliterated by running games in back-to-back weeks, letting up 218 total yards and two TDs to Minnesota backs in Week 8, before Peyton Hillis' 220-total yard, two-score thrashing last week. They've plummeted to 21st in the run defense rankings.

Need I go on?

Second, the Steelers aren't really all that great against the pass, while the Pats have an excellent passing offense.

The Steelers haven't exactly been world beaters the past few weeks, looking like crap against the Saints and letting the Bengals, for the most part, have their way with them through the air.

And lastly, the Pats have only lost back to back games twice in the past 8-10 years, so another uninspiring game this week isn't very likely.

However, the Steelers are at home and they are a solid defense, but I expect both the Steelers Defense and Tom Brady to do very well this week, so if I were the OP, I wouldn't hesitate a bit starting both.

Again refer to the aforementioned passage, regarding their pass defense. Who said that their pass defense exclusively, was all that great?By now, you've got me and my Shih Tzu 'Shaggy' looking at each other and sleepily yawning.

So what you're telling me is....... They've lost back-to-back games before. Right? There ya go. 'Nuff said.

I'm working at the FireHouse for 24 hours on Sunday. I'll get back to ya Monday and read what you have to say on how you guys made out.

Oh yeah....... For a guy who's team got away with the most shining example of highway thievery, you sure are pretty testy.

Like somebody is personally attacking your team. Who cares? This is fantasy football, not a popularity contest. And yes, I was referring to 'The Great Snow Heist.'

'Nation..........

I appreciate the responses guys. To the poster who told me to stop "over thinking" it because its fantasy football, well what the hell are you doing on a fantasy football board to begin with?

This is a completely valid issue that I'm sure a lot of other owners grapple with. I am gonna roll with Brady and the Steelers. Other options this week are Cutler and Shaun Hill, and I'm not confident enough in either to throw in over Brady.

That's cool...... Brady it is. Just know that only one team (Indy) passes more early and more often than the Lions. Also, Buffalo is pretty tight with yardage allowing a 6th best 193 yards, however, they are last in the league at TD-INT ratio, giving up 17 TDs to 1 INT. I'd personally go Shaun Hill. Like Arnold, I'll be back to check you out.

'Nation............

You're a mess dude. Do yourself a favor and hit the Prozac a little harder.

 

[Christo]

I appreciate the responses guys. To the poster who told me to stop "over thinking" it because its fantasy football, well what the hell are you doing on a fantasy football board to begin with? This is a completely valid issue that I'm sure a lot of other owners grapple with. I am gonna roll with Brady and the Steelers. Other options this week are Cutler and Shaun Hill, and I'm not confident enough in either to throw in over Brady.

I don't see how it's a valid issue. If you have 2 QBs and 2 Ds on your roster and you think QB1 is going to outscore QB2 and D1 is going to outscore D2 why does it matter that QB1 is playing D1?