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Franknbeans
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bring on the silverback 
Cool. I went to TJ. we practiced with WH my jr year which I guess would have been J. Taylor's Sr year.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Well, much as I predicted , Banta Cain did sign quickly.With San Francisco.Evilgrin 72 said:
Godsbrother
Footballguy
WPXI-TV is reporting the Steelers made a qualifying offer to SF Punter Andy Lee. The 49ers have 7 days to match the offer.
Pretty exciting stuff.
Pretty exciting stuff.
We're trying to give up a 6th rounder to sign an RFA punter? <_<
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
And it ooks like Napolean Harris just signed with KC.
We better have one hell of a draft.Hmm... every year it's like this, but we always seem to sign 1 player who has at least a pretty decent impact on our team, like we have with Farrior, Wilson, Clark, Hartings etc in the past. I'm beginning to wonder if that will happen this year though. Who could we still get that could challenge for a starting roster spot? (other than this punter 
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)Iron Mike Tomczak
Footballguy
I saw a mock draft and it did have the Steelers taking Michael Bush in the 2nd round. Thats kind of exciting, as for Banta, oh well, he looked promising but there are plenty of guys out there.... 
Somewhere
Somewhere
AhrnCityPahnder
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From what I can see (there's a good thread in the IDP forum)....The only LBs left on the market are:Cato JuneDonnie EdwardsKawika MitchellBoss BaileyChris DraftJune and Edwards will surely be too much lootKawika Mitchell sucksChris Draft is a MLB...maybe? hopefully not for much money thoughBoss Baily as an OLB may not be terrible if we can get him on the cheap...no clue what price tag he'll draw.Iron Mike Tomczak said:I saw a mock draft and it did have the Steelers taking Michael Bush in the 2nd round. Thats kind of exciting, as for Banta, oh well, he looked promising but there are plenty of guys out there....Somewhere
Pat Patriot
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How does this thread stay on page 1? There really cant be much to talk about regarding the Steelers offseason can there?
How does this thread stay on page 1? There really cant be much to talk about regarding the Steelers offseason can there?
AhrnCityPahnder
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You tell me, chief....How does this thread stay on page 1? There really cant be much to talk about regarding the Steelers offseason can there?
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Pat Patriot
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Good work Par'ner. My last post was in February. Save me the reading time. What exactly have you guys been talking about for the past 6 days?You tell me, chief....How does this thread stay on page 1? There really cant be much to talk about regarding the Steelers offseason can there?
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Irish 23
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pfalvey 19
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AhrnCityPahnder
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I realize it would be tough to skim all the tons of material from post 790 to where we are now....that must be, what 75 whole posts? No worries, I gotcha covered. Cliff notes version:Joey Porter Being CutDavenport being re-signedPotential Free Agents we'd like to see in townCap situationPorter Signing with MiamiShallow Depth at LB and the pool for FA LBs drying upTalking about what we're talking aboutYWIA.
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Pat Patriot
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Thanks for the update. Now I am current. Carry on.I realize it would be tough to skim all the tons of material from post 790 to where we are now....that must be, what 75 whole posts? No worries, I gotcha covered. Cliff notes version:Joey Porter Being CutDavenport being re-signedPotential Free Agents we'd like to see in townCap situationPorter Signing with MiamiShallow Depth at LB and the pool for FA LBs drying upTalking about what we're talking aboutYWIA.
Frenchy Fuqua
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Pat- If you live long enough to see your team win five Super Bowls then you'll see what it's all about.
Now back to the news of the day...
Now back to the news of the day...
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Pat Patriot
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Seeing my team play in 5 Bowls, win 3 and being at the 50 yard line in the Dome for the 1st SB victory is enough for me.The Steelers have good fans. I have quite a few in my office (work outside Philly). Anybody in this thread that sees my posting as anything more than friendly banter or busting balls doesnt have a sense of humor.
Black&Gold
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I think we'll probably pick up some free agents after the June 1st cuts. If I recall, that's when we've been signing most of our pick ups latlely. This way, we will see what we get in the draft and see what the salary cap looks like. It's frustrating being a fan of one of the best managed teams in the league. 
jetpack
Footballguy
In case anyone was interested in the details... Looks like the length of the contract may be the "poison pill", but San Fran certainly has the $$$ to match.
Steelers | Lee signed to offer sheet
Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:00:06 -0800
Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports the Pittsburgh Steelers have signed restricted free agent P Andy Lee (49ers) to a seven-year, $7.1 million offer sheet. The deal includes $1.66 million to sign. The 49ers have until March 13 to match the terms of the contract. If the team declines, they will receive a sixth-round draft pick as compensation.
Steelers | Lee signed to offer sheet
Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:00:06 -0800
Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports the Pittsburgh Steelers have signed restricted free agent P Andy Lee (49ers) to a seven-year, $7.1 million offer sheet. The deal includes $1.66 million to sign. The 49ers have until March 13 to match the terms of the contract. If the team declines, they will receive a sixth-round draft pick as compensation.
Frenchy Fuqua
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No doubt, love the Wahoo McDaniel or is it Jay/Jules Strongbow icon?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Is this guy really that great of a punter? There must be a hundred FA punters available each year and it seems to me that signing three of four after the draft and have them compete during camp would make more sense than wasting $1 million on a punter...
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I'd have to agree. Lee was 7th in the NFL in gross avg per punt, 3.5 yards better than Gardocki, who was dead last. However, his avg. return against was 32nd out of 32 punters at 13.2, meaning he likely line drives his kicks. Due to that, his net average was only T17 at 36.8, only .1 yards better than Gardocki. He seems to be pretty decent at placing kicks inside the 20, with 22 such punts, against only 9 touchbacks. I'd say that's a little above average. I guess the lure is that he's 24, and he has improved a lot over the last year or so, so I guess they think he has upside.
Fiddles
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kawika mitchell had 92 solos last year and 25 asstshavent seen him play but those stats dont suckFrom what I can see (there's a good thread in the IDP forum)....The only LBs left on the market are:Cato JuneDonnie EdwardsKawika MitchellBoss BaileyChris DraftJune and Edwards will surely be too much lootKawika Mitchell sucksChris Draft is a MLB...maybe? hopefully not for much money thoughBoss Baily as an OLB may not be terrible if we can get him on the cheap...no clue what price tag he'll draw.Iron Mike Tomczak said:I saw a mock draft and it did have the Steelers taking Michael Bush in the 2nd round. Thats kind of exciting, as for Banta, oh well, he looked promising but there are plenty of guys out there....
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east2west
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A good punter can be very valuable. A few deep line drive punts could have potentialy won a few lost games last year.
Frenchy Fuqua
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The Steelers should be getting a comp pick or two with the losses from 06 (Randle-El, Hope, Kimo, etc. and only the add of Ryan Clark). If you look at last year's draft they cut their 4th, two 5ths, and 7th rounder. They don't have much turnover this year either, so I'd bet they are looking to deal picks to move up or in this case get a punter rather than waste them on guys that will be cut anyway.
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AhrnCityPahnder
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He was the MLB is a 4-3 scheme, which should tackles are funneled to him by the boatload. I may be missing a couple here, but for MLBs who played in 16 games last year ( I came up with 10), only 2 had less than 92 solo tackles.Saying he sucks may be a bit harsh, but I don't think he lived up to expectations at all.kawika mitchell had 92 solos last year and 25 asstshavent seen him play but those stats dont suckFrom what I can see (there's a good thread in the IDP forum)....The only LBs left on the market are:Cato JuneDonnie EdwardsKawika MitchellBoss BaileyChris DraftJune and Edwards will surely be too much lootKawika Mitchell sucksChris Draft is a MLB...maybe? hopefully not for much money thoughBoss Baily as an OLB may not be terrible if we can get him on the cheap...no clue what price tag he'll draw.Iron Mike Tomczak said:I saw a mock draft and it did have the Steelers taking Michael Bush in the 2nd round. Thats kind of exciting, as for Banta, oh well, he looked promising but there are plenty of guys out there....
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I don't think anyone's arguing that, I think the debate here is whether or not Lee is, in fact, a good punter. The stats seems to paint a rather pedestrian picture, hence a more cost-effective way of doing business would be through the draft or UFA, rather than an offer sheet of $7 millon plus over 7 years.
Iron Mike Tomczak
Footballguy
line needs alot of help, keep interviewing, mr rooney. oh yeah and sign somebdy. besides a punter...
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
We have Okobbi, who I think will do fine, but behind him only is the ubergreen guy we just drafted. (Marvin Phillips? is that his name?)I'd be fine with some depth there. I think Okobi can play G in a pinch, too.
Frenchy Fuqua
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The Steelers have depth on the o-line, whether it's quality nobody really knows. They've also talked about moving Simmons to center and starting Kemoeatu at RG. I think they have some flexibility with Colon at G/T too. The coaches seemed to be high on him in training camp last year.
jetpack
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From what I've been able to dig up on the net, Bucs fans thought he was a poor guard, and didn't care about him leaving. But they liked him as a center. He's also able to play both sides and the middle, which the Steelers always love. Sounds like just a depth move here, if it happens at all.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I've heard the same from Bucs fans as well. I think Mahan would be a good pick up for depth at OL.
Pat Patriot
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Wahoo. RIP
According to PFT, we may have lost out on our punting prospect:
Iron Mike Tomczak
Footballguy
For some reason this pleases me. Paying 7 mil for a leg is redunkulous.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I wasn't sold on Lee in the first place. He is younger and a little cheaper than Gardocki but not necessarily that much better. I would rather they pick up a couple free agents and let them compete during camp or if there is someone they really want spend a 6th or 7th round pick on one. I am sure they can find a punter coming out of college that is as good or better than Gardocki and he would come at a bargain basement price.
Guapote
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With UF pro day just wrapped up, I've heard a little buzz about the Steelers being interested in Reggie Nelson. As a UF alum and Steelers fan I wouldn't be at all upset with this, but I think they have higher priority needs than free safety. Any insight from the Steelers homers here?
I'm not an expert, but I could see him being a good fit if they do move towards a cover-2 scheme. He's got amazing make-up speed, and served as a fantastic last-line of defense for the Gators this year. There were games this year where the coaching staff lined him up deep and the opposing offense simply settled for short gains for the whole game. I've heard some folks consider him undersized, but he is a very sure tackler and he hits bigger than you'd expect based on his size.
Safety tandem of Polamalu and Nelson could be very solid for a long time. I do see greater needs, just curious to hear if there is any interest in Nelson.
I'm not an expert, but I could see him being a good fit if they do move towards a cover-2 scheme. He's got amazing make-up speed, and served as a fantastic last-line of defense for the Gators this year. There were games this year where the coaching staff lined him up deep and the opposing offense simply settled for short gains for the whole game. I've heard some folks consider him undersized, but he is a very sure tackler and he hits bigger than you'd expect based on his size.
Safety tandem of Polamalu and Nelson could be very solid for a long time. I do see greater needs, just curious to hear if there is any interest in Nelson.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I would be very disappointed if the Steelers used a high pick for a free safety. With Polamalu , Smith and Clark I think they are set for now.
Black&Gold
Footballguy
Don't you think we should have been able to get something for Porter? I know, it's probably a cap issue, but if the Dolphins can get a 2nd and a 7th for Wes Welker?????
Guapote
Footballguy
I'd be disappointed in this pick if I wasn't a Gator fan. I'm pretty confident that Nelson would be an upgrade over Smith and Clark but keep in mind, even if try not to, I'm probably viewing Nelson through orange and blue glasses. There are obviously bigger needs than an upgrade at safety when they're already pretty good there.
I don't think this is any more than some local message board rumor. I'm not trying to say there's anything more to this, and sorry if it came across that way. Just curious if there is anything to this beyond local speculation. Rumors of Nelson to Atlanta (especially with his improved pro day time) and Jax are much more prevalent.
Regarding UF players and Pittsburgh, I think the Steelers being interested in Jarvis Moss make a lot more sense. I don't know if he's more than a pass rush specialist initially, but he has the physical skills to dramatically improve his overall game.
I don't think this is any more than some local message board rumor. I'm not trying to say there's anything more to this, and sorry if it came across that way. Just curious if there is anything to this beyond local speculation. Rumors of Nelson to Atlanta (especially with his improved pro day time) and Jax are much more prevalent.
Regarding UF players and Pittsburgh, I think the Steelers being interested in Jarvis Moss make a lot more sense. I don't know if he's more than a pass rush specialist initially, but he has the physical skills to dramatically improve his overall game.
Godsbrother
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The problem is that every team knew the Steelers had to get rid of him before March 3rd to avoid paying a roster bonus. There was no incentive for anyone to trade with the Steelers knowing he would be a Free Agent if they just waited.
TBLCommish
Footballguy
We did get something for him....................around 6 million in cap space!
Franknbeans
Footballguy
It seems to me that Anthony Smith is a badass
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Agreed, though I wouldn't be stunned if they did it. It would be a clear sign that they are looking to graduallky shift to a Cover 2, as in that scheme, the safeties have a lot more coverage responsibility than they do in the Steelers' base 3-4. As good as our safeties are, they are much stronger in run support and as blitzers than in deep coverage.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Very interesting thought by Dale Lolley (Wash Observer) in his blog today:
I've heard that Keisel is one heck of an athlete so maybe this is a possibility.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
This is a very distinct possibility although he's going to have to drop some weight. He's about 25-30 lbs too heavy.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Can honestley say that never even crossed my mind. Interesting.
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