Iron Mike Tomczak
Footballguy
Wonderful story dude, but who cares about Poteat, he hasnt been a Steeler since 2002. Too bad? I say good, he can hurt the Jets secondary now.
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Steelers (2007) (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Frenchy Fuqua
- Start date
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
That's not really good a good cutoff point to use. When's the last time ANY steeler round 1 pick stuck with us for ten years? In my quick glance over the last 30 years, I only see Rod Woodson. You have to go back to Franco Harris in 1972 to find the last one before Woodson. Mark Bruener came close with 9.
Disclaimer: I only glanced at this and my statement is coming from memory of careers, not checking each one. I may be wrong. please point it out if so.
Iron Mike Tomczak
Footballguy
Well thats what the other guy was using, I was just proving his assessment was rediculous, yet you pick the bone with me? By the way you ever heard of Hines Ward? The best WR of recent memory and probly the best draft pick of recent memory was a risk on a multi ethnic 3rd round WR. So do we need to use a 1st round pick on WR, I say No.
Last edited by a moderator:
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
I just skimmed his post and missed it. Don't really care who came up with it, it's just a pretty silly measuring stick.
Bringing up Hines Ward doesn't really help your case. There are hits and misses all over the place, with all positions and in all rounds of the draft. You could say we need a LB or OL in round one, and I could point to Huey Richardson and Jahmain Stevens as reasons why would shouldn't draft them in round one. I could also point to any number of busts in later rounds as for reasons why we should. I could then point to people like Clark Haggans or Max Starks for solid players who can be found later in the draft.
Bringing up one pick as a standalone reason for why we should or should not do something is not anywhere near a big enough sample size. No matter how sure you are about a college player, he can always dissapoint. You do your homework, draft players you like for needs that you have, and hope for the best.
Sometimes it works. sometimes it doesn't.
Bringing up Hines Ward doesn't really help your case. There are hits and misses all over the place, with all positions and in all rounds of the draft. You could say we need a LB or OL in round one, and I could point to Huey Richardson and Jahmain Stevens as reasons why would shouldn't draft them in round one. I could also point to any number of busts in later rounds as for reasons why we should. I could then point to people like Clark Haggans or Max Starks for solid players who can be found later in the draft.
Bringing up one pick as a standalone reason for why we should or should not do something is not anywhere near a big enough sample size. No matter how sure you are about a college player, he can always dissapoint. You do your homework, draft players you like for needs that you have, and hope for the best.
Sometimes it works. sometimes it doesn't.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
Pittsburgh P
Footballguy
Porter's Payback by Michael Silver
Linebacker will make Steelers regret letting him go
Posted: Thursday March 15, 2007 5:59PM; Updated: Thursday March 15, 2007 5:59PM
He hurried through the bowels of the L.A. Coliseum wearing only a towel, a frantic 49ers official at his side. For Ronnie Lott, a future Hall of Famer rushing to the locker room of the franchise that had discarded him -- because San Francisco's Charles Haley was in the middle of a scary postgame tirade, and no one else was capable of calming him down -- this was what complete vindication looked like in September of 1991.
More than 15 years later, I remember the strange scene vividly. And the more I think about the Steelers' dubious decision earlier this month to release linebacker Joey Porter, the more I think history is about to repeat.
But first, back to our blast from the past: Lott, one of the proudest and fiercest men ever to wear a uniform, won four Super Bowls in 10 seasons with the Niners, but the team had allowed him to leave as a Plan B free agent following its crushing defeat to the New York Giants in the 1990 NFC Championship game. He signed with the L.A. Raiders and then, in the midst of an All-Pro season, helped thump his former team, 12-6, to drop San Francisco to 2-3.
Haley, Lott's protégé and the 49ers' star pass rusher, freaked out in the locker room -- railing at the team's new quarterback, Steve Young, for failing to pull out the game the way Joe Montana had so many times in the past. At one point Haley ripped an IV out of his arm, causing blood to spurt everywhere. In an act of painful submission, the Niners sent a team official to the Raiders' locker room to summon Lott from the shower, and only then was order restored.
I'm not saying the same thing will happen to Porter and one of his former Pittsburgh teammates when the Miami Dolphins face the Steelers at Heinz Field this season. But I do believe that by the end of 2007, the franchise that employed Porter for the first eight years of his exceptional career will be humiliated for having let him go.
Did anyone else think it was at least slightly insane that the Steelers, faced with paying Porter a $1 million roster bonus and $4 million in base salary for '07, simply cut him, rather than trying to get him to agree to a restructured deal? Porter, who ended up signing a five-year, $32 million contract with the Dolphins that included $20 million in guaranteed money, certainly did.
"I wish I just had an opportunity to turn down a deal," Porter told me earlier this week. "They didn't know what I would've turned down, so why not make an offer? That was the shocking thing -- they didn't even give me the option to stay. That's what was so frustrating."
I've heard the Steelers' rationale: That Porter, who was going into the final year of his contract, wanted a lucrative extension and might hold out of training camp if he didn't get it; that Porter would have struggled to make the switch to the 4-3 defense under new coach Mike Tomlin; that Porter's likely replacement, James Harrison, will emerge as the latest Pittsburgh linebacker to thrive.
More troubling, there's rampant talk in NFL circles that Porter, who turns 30 this week, is somehow finished as an elite player. Critics point to a disappointing 2006 season in which Porter, who missed two games, made 55 tackles -- his lowest total since his rookie season -- along with seven sacks and a pair of interceptions.
Two of those sacks and a game-clinching interception for touchdown (after which Porter planted that memorable kiss on then-Pittsburgh coach Bill Cowher) came against Miami in the season opener, which undoubtedly helped convince the Dolphins to give Porter a $12 million signing bonus -- $3 million more than the Steelers have paid any player.
Somehow we're supposed to believe Porter went from being an elite player in September to being washed up by December, when the Steelers' disappointing season ended with an 8-8 record?
Right, and Cowher forgot how to coach, too.
"No way," Hines Ward, the Steelers' All-Pro receiver, said in a phone interview on Monday. "Joey was good last year, too. His role was dropping into coverage a lot, which may not have been what he was accustomed to. So, predictably, his numbers went down. But there are still a lot of good years left in Joey."
Miami, looking for its first playoff berth since 2001, is betting big that Ward is right. With two aging stars, linebacker Zach Thomas and defensive end Jason Taylor, gearing up for a final push, Porter will infuse Dom Capers' hybrid 3-4 scheme with passion, energy and playmaking ability.
As great as Taylor was last season, when he won his first Defensive Player of the Year award, there were too many occasions on which it appeared he and Thomas were playing with a completely different level of intensity than their teammates. Now that Porter is in town, with apologies to Spinal Tap guitarist Nigel Tufnel, the Dolphins will "go to 11."
Says Porter: "I can be that loose cannon, as long as I'm a controlled loose cannon. Nobody's gonna come out and push us around -- I can promise you that."
Ward believes Porter's intensity will be tougher to replace than his sacks, interceptions and forced fumbles. "It's shocking that they let him go," Ward says, "because he was really the emotional leader, the guy who brought out the best in a lot of players. That's why so many veterans -- Alan Faneca, James Farrior and others -- called me when they heard he was released. We were all shocked.
"You can always replace players, but you can't always replace leaders. That's what we lose more than anything. It was tough when we lost Jerome (Bettis) before last year, and then we lost Coach Cowher. Now we lose Joey Porter? It's gonna be different."
Football is an emotional game, one that requires players to put aside logic -- for example, disregarding thoughts like "Why am I thrusting my body into the path of a charging 250-pounder at full speed?" -- for the benefit of those around them. Porter, like Lott before him, is one of those rare players capable of bringing out that maniacal zeal in others. As with Lott, Porter's words carry weight because he is the craziest, most committed man on the field.
And when a player like this has his abilities questioned and his pride wounded -- look out.
Do you think it was insignificant to Porter that, shortly after his release, Dolphins general manager Randy Mueller and first-year coach Cam Cameron showed up in Bakersfield, Calif., to recruit him? They were playing to his wounded pride, and smartly so. Suddenly, Porter once again felt coveted and appreciated, which is one reason (along with the money, of course) that he canceled a scheduled visit to Cincinnati and signed with Miami.
The Steelers, in electing to cheap out when it came to taking care one of their most important players -- not an uncommon occurrence in Pittsburgh over the years -- may have saved some money. But Porter, it says here, will make them pay in other ways.
"For some reason they don't like to pay their own in Pittsburgh," says Porter, who insists he's not bitter toward the Steelers. "I knew that coming in when I watched all those great linebackers get shipped out of there. They draft you, they groom you, but when it comes time to pay, they let you go.
"A lot of my teammates know I brought more than just what you saw on the football field. I brought a mentality. And now, I have a chance to bring that to Miami. A new opportunity brings new challenges. And I'm fired up."
Linebacker will make Steelers regret letting him go
Posted: Thursday March 15, 2007 5:59PM; Updated: Thursday March 15, 2007 5:59PM
He hurried through the bowels of the L.A. Coliseum wearing only a towel, a frantic 49ers official at his side. For Ronnie Lott, a future Hall of Famer rushing to the locker room of the franchise that had discarded him -- because San Francisco's Charles Haley was in the middle of a scary postgame tirade, and no one else was capable of calming him down -- this was what complete vindication looked like in September of 1991.
More than 15 years later, I remember the strange scene vividly. And the more I think about the Steelers' dubious decision earlier this month to release linebacker Joey Porter, the more I think history is about to repeat.
But first, back to our blast from the past: Lott, one of the proudest and fiercest men ever to wear a uniform, won four Super Bowls in 10 seasons with the Niners, but the team had allowed him to leave as a Plan B free agent following its crushing defeat to the New York Giants in the 1990 NFC Championship game. He signed with the L.A. Raiders and then, in the midst of an All-Pro season, helped thump his former team, 12-6, to drop San Francisco to 2-3.
Haley, Lott's protégé and the 49ers' star pass rusher, freaked out in the locker room -- railing at the team's new quarterback, Steve Young, for failing to pull out the game the way Joe Montana had so many times in the past. At one point Haley ripped an IV out of his arm, causing blood to spurt everywhere. In an act of painful submission, the Niners sent a team official to the Raiders' locker room to summon Lott from the shower, and only then was order restored.
I'm not saying the same thing will happen to Porter and one of his former Pittsburgh teammates when the Miami Dolphins face the Steelers at Heinz Field this season. But I do believe that by the end of 2007, the franchise that employed Porter for the first eight years of his exceptional career will be humiliated for having let him go.
Did anyone else think it was at least slightly insane that the Steelers, faced with paying Porter a $1 million roster bonus and $4 million in base salary for '07, simply cut him, rather than trying to get him to agree to a restructured deal? Porter, who ended up signing a five-year, $32 million contract with the Dolphins that included $20 million in guaranteed money, certainly did.
"I wish I just had an opportunity to turn down a deal," Porter told me earlier this week. "They didn't know what I would've turned down, so why not make an offer? That was the shocking thing -- they didn't even give me the option to stay. That's what was so frustrating."
I've heard the Steelers' rationale: That Porter, who was going into the final year of his contract, wanted a lucrative extension and might hold out of training camp if he didn't get it; that Porter would have struggled to make the switch to the 4-3 defense under new coach Mike Tomlin; that Porter's likely replacement, James Harrison, will emerge as the latest Pittsburgh linebacker to thrive.
More troubling, there's rampant talk in NFL circles that Porter, who turns 30 this week, is somehow finished as an elite player. Critics point to a disappointing 2006 season in which Porter, who missed two games, made 55 tackles -- his lowest total since his rookie season -- along with seven sacks and a pair of interceptions.
Two of those sacks and a game-clinching interception for touchdown (after which Porter planted that memorable kiss on then-Pittsburgh coach Bill Cowher) came against Miami in the season opener, which undoubtedly helped convince the Dolphins to give Porter a $12 million signing bonus -- $3 million more than the Steelers have paid any player.
Somehow we're supposed to believe Porter went from being an elite player in September to being washed up by December, when the Steelers' disappointing season ended with an 8-8 record?
Right, and Cowher forgot how to coach, too.
"No way," Hines Ward, the Steelers' All-Pro receiver, said in a phone interview on Monday. "Joey was good last year, too. His role was dropping into coverage a lot, which may not have been what he was accustomed to. So, predictably, his numbers went down. But there are still a lot of good years left in Joey."
Miami, looking for its first playoff berth since 2001, is betting big that Ward is right. With two aging stars, linebacker Zach Thomas and defensive end Jason Taylor, gearing up for a final push, Porter will infuse Dom Capers' hybrid 3-4 scheme with passion, energy and playmaking ability.
As great as Taylor was last season, when he won his first Defensive Player of the Year award, there were too many occasions on which it appeared he and Thomas were playing with a completely different level of intensity than their teammates. Now that Porter is in town, with apologies to Spinal Tap guitarist Nigel Tufnel, the Dolphins will "go to 11."
Says Porter: "I can be that loose cannon, as long as I'm a controlled loose cannon. Nobody's gonna come out and push us around -- I can promise you that."
Ward believes Porter's intensity will be tougher to replace than his sacks, interceptions and forced fumbles. "It's shocking that they let him go," Ward says, "because he was really the emotional leader, the guy who brought out the best in a lot of players. That's why so many veterans -- Alan Faneca, James Farrior and others -- called me when they heard he was released. We were all shocked.
"You can always replace players, but you can't always replace leaders. That's what we lose more than anything. It was tough when we lost Jerome (Bettis) before last year, and then we lost Coach Cowher. Now we lose Joey Porter? It's gonna be different."
Football is an emotional game, one that requires players to put aside logic -- for example, disregarding thoughts like "Why am I thrusting my body into the path of a charging 250-pounder at full speed?" -- for the benefit of those around them. Porter, like Lott before him, is one of those rare players capable of bringing out that maniacal zeal in others. As with Lott, Porter's words carry weight because he is the craziest, most committed man on the field.
And when a player like this has his abilities questioned and his pride wounded -- look out.
Do you think it was insignificant to Porter that, shortly after his release, Dolphins general manager Randy Mueller and first-year coach Cam Cameron showed up in Bakersfield, Calif., to recruit him? They were playing to his wounded pride, and smartly so. Suddenly, Porter once again felt coveted and appreciated, which is one reason (along with the money, of course) that he canceled a scheduled visit to Cincinnati and signed with Miami.
The Steelers, in electing to cheap out when it came to taking care one of their most important players -- not an uncommon occurrence in Pittsburgh over the years -- may have saved some money. But Porter, it says here, will make them pay in other ways.
"For some reason they don't like to pay their own in Pittsburgh," says Porter, who insists he's not bitter toward the Steelers. "I knew that coming in when I watched all those great linebackers get shipped out of there. They draft you, they groom you, but when it comes time to pay, they let you go.
"A lot of my teammates know I brought more than just what you saw on the football field. I brought a mentality. And now, I have a chance to bring that to Miami. A new opportunity brings new challenges. And I'm fired up."
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I fixed it for Joey.
Last edited by a moderator:
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Sounds to me like the Steelers are going to be going defense heavy early in this draft.
east2west
Footballguy
I for one, am ready to see 280+ lbs BK come full speed from the outside linebacker position taking on a running back during a pass rush! I’m glad to see that he can dunk, which means he can jump, undoubtedly the running backs will be looking to go low on him, if he’s athletic enough to dunk then he can certainly jump some of those knee high attempts to block him.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
I agree. They haven't take a player on D in the 1st round since Polamalu in 2003. I think if Carriker is there he is a great choice, especially if they have designs on moving Keisel to OLB.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
I agree in the sense that they want a large overly talented player. DE/DT/OL maybe LB.I think if Branch or Okoye slips... they go after him. Carriker fits this mold also.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
With the Ike Taylor backslide, Townsend getting long in the tooth, McFadden looking good but inconsistent and nothing else to get excited about, I would also not be surprised to see L.Hall in the mix. Pitt has been trying to hit it big with 2nd/3rd round corners for a while. Branch, Okoye, Carriker all sound good to me too. I'd also like to land Bowe. Punishing run blocker in a 220# WR. That may make Hines' smile even bigger, but I doubt he lasts 'till our 2nd pick.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Sounds like Ben and Whis didn't have a great working relationship, perhaps that and Cowher's non-endorsement explain why he didn't get the HC job.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Early (adamjt) reports say the Steelers will get an additional 4th and 5th (being equal to early 5ths and 6ths) so that may allow a little freedom to try and move up in the second round with the use of our 3rd, 4th and 5th.
Pittsburgh United
Footballguy
Jeremy Staat is going to Iraq. I don't want to veer this thread OT, so I'll just post the link here, but I thought Steeler fans might like to read the following story. I had no idea he joined the Marines:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2806485
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2806485
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Possibly although Ben said that he was disappointed when Whis signed as HC of Arizona. I think their working relationship was just fine. This is sounds to me like just a response to Whis' comments that the Steelers rushed Ben back last season.The one thing I do agree with Ben is that much of his problems last season was forcing the ball, especially in the redzone. If this is the only thing he has learned from last season then maybe it will payoff down the road.I also like the idea of Ben calling the pass protection rather than the linemen.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Here's hoping that Staat's mission is a success and that he comes back okay.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
The more I look at it, the more I think Timmons might be the guy if he's there at 15. He's a physical specimen, and despite being best suited to the Will role in a 4-3 (IMO) - his pash rushing ability is such, that even at only ~235 lbs, he can probably play 3-4 OLB too. With Porter gone, I think LB is going to be a priority anyway, and Timmons offers not only the versatility, but also the upside they might be looking for with this pick. I think between Hampton, Smith, Kirschke, and Hoke (plus possibly Keisel), they have enough guys that can likely fill the DT spots in a 4-3....
Kai's Hero
Footballguy
Playoffs? 
..... What Playoffs? 
..... What Playoffs?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Playoffs?..... What Playoffs?
Seahawks fan, perhaps? You guys are always so bitter....We only make it 2 out of every 3 years, so that we can have a mid round draft pick every now and again to load up for the next playoff run.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Good offseason information here. Please keep it up.Playoffs?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
He's just pissed because he gotGood offseason information here. Please keep it up.Playoffs?
in the Joey Porter/Levi Jones thread and now it's locked so he can't get his last word in, so he'll try to do it here.Not smart, holmes. This is my crew in here.... unless you want to end up a bloody pulp like your boy Levi, I suggest you run along.
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
I dont disagree that Timmons is a speciman and a first rounder but I dont see hiim as high as 15 and I dont think he is a good fit for a 3-4 defense. Depends on how committed Tomlin is to the 3-4. I know that at 235 lbs the Patriots would most likely dismiss him as a candidate for their 3-4. Pats like LB's at least 250 lbs. Timmons has good pass rushing skills but would have a tough time holding the LOS as a 3-4 backer. I see Adam Carriker as a more likely pick for the Steelers.
Kai's Hero
Footballguy
Yea, I would love for you to have the opportunity to prove how much of a p#ssy you are! I love guys who talk ##### behind their monitors to prove how tough they are. I'd make you my Biaatch quicker and more often than the Patriots do!!He's just pissed because he gotGood offseason information here. Please keep it up.Playoffs?in the Joey Porter/Levi Jones thread and now it's locked so he can't get his last word in, so he'll try to do it here.Not smart, holmes. This is my crew in here.... unless you want to end up a bloody pulp like your boy Levi, I suggest you run along.
Kai's Hero
Footballguy
Patriot fan. I guess youPlayoffs?
would know what it feels like to be OWNED 
Irish
Footballguy
Yea, I would love for you to have the opportunity to prove how much of a p#ssy you are! I love guys who talk ##### behind their monitors to prove how tough they are. I'd make you my Biaatch quicker and more often than the Patriots do!!He's just pissed because he gotGood offseason information here. Please keep it up.Playoffs?in the Joey Porter/Levi Jones thread and now it's locked so he can't get his last word in, so he'll try to do it here.Not smart, holmes. This is my crew in here.... unless you want to end up a bloody pulp like your boy Levi, I suggest you run along.
Got to laugh at you 135 lb weaklings acting all bad on an internet message board. 
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Not just aYea, I would love for you to have the opportunity to prove how much of a p#ssy you are! I love guys who talk ##### behind their monitors to prove how tough they are. I'd make you my Biaatch quicker and more often than the Patriots do!!He's just pissed because he gotGood offseason information here. Please keep it up.Playoffs?
, but a GREAT POSTING!! Are you sure you don't want take off your wife-beater T-shirt and show us all your pencil-thin frame?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
And I would love to ask what your postings in this thread have anything to do with the topic at hand (Steelers offseason) or the Shark Pool in general? If you want to pick a fight with Steelers fans then take it over to the FFA. TIA.Yea, I would love for you to have the opportunity to prove how much of a p#ssy you are! I love guys who talk ##### behind their monitors to prove how tough they are. I'd make you my Biaatch quicker and more often than the Patriots do!!
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I think Carriker will be gone by 15, and right now, the Steelers don't really have anyone who can play the 4-3 Will spot. They do, however, have guys who can rush the QB from either the OLB or DE spots, so in order to make the transition to a hybrid 3/4 man front, they're going to need a couple of guys who can play OLB in the 4-3. Timmons may be the rare player who can play OLB in the Pittsburgh scheme because they really don't ask their OLBs to do much more besides rush the QB and occasionally drop into coverage, which Timmons can likely do. As far as choosing him at 15 goes, the Steelers (like NE) don't really seem to care what a player's "universal" draft grade is, so I wouldn't be shocked.I think I read recently that Tomlin was the only head coach at FSU's Pro Day, so that could be telling as well.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
What I love are guys who can't articulate on a message board, so they immediately begin calling other posters out physically. Sorry I can't post on FBG in person, rather than "behind my monitor", but that's more or less the nature of the beast, wouldn't you say?Yea, I would love for you to have the opportunity to prove how much of a p#ssy you are! I love guys who talk ##### behind their monitors to prove how tough they are. I'd make you my Biaatch quicker and more often than the Patriots do!!He's just pissed because he gotGood offseason information here. Please keep it up.Playoffs?
SomeGuyNamedDavid
Footballguy
Surely you're not attempting to have an intelligent conversation with this guy.What I love are guys who can't articulate on a message board, so they immediately begin calling other posters out physically. Sorry I can't post on FBG in person, rather than "behind my monitor", but that's more or less the nature of the beast, wouldn't you say?Yea, I would love for you to have the opportunity to prove how much of a p#ssy you are! I love guys who talk ##### behind their monitors to prove how tough they are. I'd make you my Biaatch quicker and more often than the Patriots do!!He's just pissed because he gotGood offseason information here. Please keep it up.Playoffs?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Not just aYea, I would love for you to have the opportunity to prove how much of a p#ssy you are! I love guys who talk ##### behind their monitors to prove how tough they are. I'd make you my Biaatch quicker and more often than the Patriots do!!He's just pissed because he gotGood offseason information here. Please keep it up.Playoffs?
If you want to see something pencil thin, tell him to take off his underwear. You can see his puny frame even with the wife beater on.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Just for a few more seconds. Then, I have to go clap with one hand.Surely you're not attempting to have an intelligent conversation with this guy.What I love are guys who can't articulate on a message board, so they immediately begin calling other posters out physically. Sorry I can't post on FBG in person, rather than "behind my monitor", but that's more or less the nature of the beast, wouldn't you say?Yea, I would love for you to have the opportunity to prove how much of a p#ssy you are! I love guys who talk ##### behind their monitors to prove how tough they are. I'd make you my Biaatch quicker and more often than the Patriots do!!He's just pissed because he gotGood offseason information here. Please keep it up.Playoffs?
Please take this argument elsewhere. It does not belong in this thread.Patriot fan. I guess youPlayoffs?Seahawks fan, perhaps? You guys are always so bitter....We only make it 2 out of every 3 years, so that we can have a mid round draft pick every now and again to load up for the next playoff run.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Thanks. I'm trying not to piss in the Pool, but every time this dude posts, it's like I funneled a 12-pack and I've broken the seal hours ago.Please take this argument elsewhere. It does not belong in this thread.Patriot fan. I guess youPlayoffs?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Back on point....
PFT's most recent mock has the Steelers taking Dwayne Bowe in round 1 and Chris Henry in round 2. I don't see this happening, as I think they're going defense, but as I've said before, I wouldn't be disappointed if we got a top-notch WR in round 1, as the draft is uncommonly top-heavy with wideouts this year.
In their mock, though, Posluszny (sp?) is still there in round 2 and they pass on him for the RB from Arizona. That, I cannot imagine going down.
PFT's most recent mock has the Steelers taking Dwayne Bowe in round 1 and Chris Henry in round 2. I don't see this happening, as I think they're going defense, but as I've said before, I wouldn't be disappointed if we got a top-notch WR in round 1, as the draft is uncommonly top-heavy with wideouts this year.
In their mock, though, Posluszny (sp?) is still there in round 2 and they pass on him for the RB from Arizona. That, I cannot imagine going down.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
FWIW from PFT...
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Agree completely. I don't think the Steelers will take a WR with their #1 pick and I certainly don't see them taking a RB at #2, especially if Posluszny si still on the board.
The Hank
Footballguy
I gotta agree with GB and EG...
I definitely see the Steelers going with someone with the versatility to play DE in a 4-3 and/or a OLB in a 3-4.
It depends on what the team will do with Keisel. If the Steelers try to put Keisel in a OLB position, it seems more and more like the pick will be DE, like Adam Carriker or Jamaal Anderson if they are there, or trade down and take Quentin Moses. However, if Tomlin decides to leave Keisel as a DE, Jarvis Moss will be the most logical pick as a 3-4 OLB, with versatility to pass rush like Porter did at times.
So if the Steelers do go to a 4-3, you can expect they will leave Keisel to DE and a rookie groomed to be on the other side, with Aaron Smith in the middle with Casey Hampton, and Larry Foote MLB and James Harrison/Clark Haggans/James Farrior on the OLB. Once again, for the 3-4 it all depends on where they want Keisel to play.
My guess is... DE.
I definitely see the Steelers going with someone with the versatility to play DE in a 4-3 and/or a OLB in a 3-4.
It depends on what the team will do with Keisel. If the Steelers try to put Keisel in a OLB position, it seems more and more like the pick will be DE, like Adam Carriker or Jamaal Anderson if they are there, or trade down and take Quentin Moses. However, if Tomlin decides to leave Keisel as a DE, Jarvis Moss will be the most logical pick as a 3-4 OLB, with versatility to pass rush like Porter did at times.
So if the Steelers do go to a 4-3, you can expect they will leave Keisel to DE and a rookie groomed to be on the other side, with Aaron Smith in the middle with Casey Hampton, and Larry Foote MLB and James Harrison/Clark Haggans/James Farrior on the OLB. Once again, for the 3-4 it all depends on where they want Keisel to play.
My guess is... DE.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
That's true, but the more I think about it, the more I think they might want guys who can play 4-3 OLB, as the Steelers currently have none. Posluszny can play ILB in a 3-4 or OLB ina 4-3, so he becomes a very likely pick as well.
Stillers Jr.
Footballguy
How's our cap situation. I love Al Wilson and the Broncos are shopping him...wonder if that could happen.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I love him too, but I think we're still too tight against the cap. I heard he's going to the Giants...
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
Hey, the 1000th post in the thread. What do I win? 
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
At the moment we have lots of room. After a new contract for Polomalu, not so much.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
And Faneca too...At the moment we have lots of room. After a new contract for Polomalu, not so much.
Similar threads
- Poll
