Steelers offering Big Ben for a top-10 pick (1 Viewer)

[Happy Ragnarok]

I'm not a Steelers homer so this could be completely off the wall, but I'll ask anyway...Could the Steelers be in the trading mind with Ben because of the way they dealt with Santonio? The Rooney rule is in place because of this family and the work they have done to blacks in the game. Could it be that the family sees this as a potential problem where they jettisoned a black player with problems and don't want to look like they kept a white player with problems?Is that remotely at play? And I don't ask in a racism way at all - I don't use that term and find it meaningless. I just mean could this be not just the Steelers wanting to hold themselves higher in a class and morality (for lack of better terms) terms but also to make sure they continue to treat all players equally, including the issues of color?

The same question has come up repeatedly on local sports talk radio the last 48 hours. So it's not all that off the wall. Naturally, nobody seems to have any idea whether there's anything to it, but you're certainly not alone in wondering.

Fair enough. I would think then that a trade is entirely possible, and most likely probable, if this is an important point of contention. I will still be amazed if they trade him, though.

Well, it's a point of contention between talk show hosts and angry local callers. But the front office certainly isn't coming out and making any statements of the sort. I don't think this is any kind of tell; just an acknowledgment that you're not alone in considering the Rooney Rule angle.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

The good news for me is if he gets traded, my Roethlisberger jersey and the rubber schvantz I got for my flasher costume about 10 years ago will make a killer topical Halloween costume this year. All I'll need is a can of gray spray paint.

I'm getting pretty large these days. Some Ted Danson black face and I could back you up as Willie Colon, or as he is known by his Spike Lee Do the Right Thing name Sweet **** Willie Colon.

Wing out to Orlando for Halloween and we'll do this. I also have a Hunter Thompson costume, you can be my Dr. Gonzo.

 

[CrossEyed]

I'm not a Steelers homer so this could be completely off the wall, but I'll ask anyway...Could the Steelers be in the trading mind with Ben because of the way they dealt with Santonio? The Rooney rule is in place because of this family and the work they have done to blacks in the game. Could it be that the family sees this as a potential problem where they jettisoned a black player with problems and don't want to look like they kept a white player with problems?Is that remotely at play? And I don't ask in a racism way at all - I don't use that term and find it meaningless. I just mean could this be not just the Steelers wanting to hold themselves higher in a class and morality (for lack of better terms) terms but also to make sure they continue to treat all players equally, including the issues of color?

The same question has come up repeatedly on local sports talk radio the last 48 hours. So it's not all that off the wall. Naturally, nobody seems to have any idea whether there's anything to it, but you're certainly not alone in wondering.

Fair enough. I would think then that a trade is entirely possible, and most likely probable, if this is an important point of contention. I will still be amazed if they trade him, though.

Well, it's a point of contention between talk show hosts and angry local callers. But the front office certainly isn't coming out and making any statements of the sort. I don't think this is any kind of tell; just an acknowledgment that you're not alone in considering the Rooney Rule angle.

People crying racism if they don't trade/cut Ben are fools. Do people really think that the family responsible for making sure that minorities get HC interviews are racist? I'm sorry, but that's just dumb.I'd like to see Ben gone, but it has absolutely nothing to do with race.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Do you think Ben is going to win one or two more Super Bowls before he retires?

You didn't direct this at me, but I'd say his chances of accomplishing that are greater than any other current NFL QB or draft prospect in this class.

In 2005, I am sure most thought Tom Brady would have two or three more Super Bowl victories by now. He has zero. Just saying...

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

I'm not a Steelers homer so this could be completely off the wall, but I'll ask anyway...Could the Steelers be in the trading mind with Ben because of the way they dealt with Santonio? The Rooney rule is in place because of this family and the work they have done to blacks in the game. Could it be that the family sees this as a potential problem where they jettisoned a black player with problems and don't want to look like they kept a white player with problems?Is that remotely at play? And I don't ask in a racism way at all - I don't use that term and find it meaningless. I just mean could this be not just the Steelers wanting to hold themselves higher in a class and morality (for lack of better terms) terms but also to make sure they continue to treat all players equally, including the issues of color?

The same question has come up repeatedly on local sports talk radio the last 48 hours. So it's not all that off the wall. Naturally, nobody seems to have any idea whether there's anything to it, but you're certainly not alone in wondering.

Fair enough. I would think then that a trade is entirely possible, and most likely probable, if this is an important point of contention. I will still be amazed if they trade him, though.

Well, it's a point of contention between talk show hosts and angry local callers. But the front office certainly isn't coming out and making any statements of the sort. I don't think this is any kind of tell; just an acknowledgment that you're not alone in considering the Rooney Rule angle.

People crying racism if they don't trade/cut Ben are fools. Do people really think that the family responsible for making sure that minorities get HC interviews are racist? I'm sorry, but that's just dumb.

No. People aren't saying the Rooneys are racist. They're saying that they fear the Rooneys may be so gung-ho to appear UNracist, in the name of protecting their family's pristine race-relations image, that they may feel compelled to trade Ben to avoid the appearance of racial favoritism.I'm not saying I agree with the sentiment, nor that there's necessarily anything to it. Just that it's been brought up more than once.

 

[CrossEyed]

No. People aren't saying the Rooneys are racist. They're saying that they fear the Rooneys may be so gung-ho to appear UNracist, in the name of protecting their family's pristine race-relations image, that they may feel compelled to trade Ben to avoid the appearance of racial favoritism.I'm not saying I agree with the sentiment, nor that there's necessarily anything to it. Just that it's been brought up more than once.

I've heard people say that the Rooneys are racists if they don't get rid of Ben since they dumped Holmes. That's just dumb.

 

[Tau837]

Do you think Ben is going to win one or two more Super Bowls before he retires?

You didn't direct this at me, but I'd say his chances of accomplishing that are greater than any other current NFL QB or draft prospect in this class.

In 2005, I am sure most thought Tom Brady would have two or three more Super Bowl victories by now. He has zero. Just saying...

Agreed. I think saying he has a better chance than other draft prospects is fine. Saying he has a better chance than all other current NFL QBs is off base IMO. Roethlisberger is not the best QB in the NFL, he doesn't play on the best team in the NFL, and he doesn't play for the best coach in the NFL. If there were odds for this kind of bet, I suspect Peyton Manning, Brees, and Brady would all have better odds than Roethlisberger. And I don't really see why Roethlisberger should be ranked ahead of Rivers, Romo, or Eli by any non-trivial margin. And I'm probably forgetting some others.

 

[fatness]

I'm not a Steelers homer so this could be completely off the wall, but I'll ask anyway...Could the Steelers be in the trading mind with Ben because of the way they dealt with Santonio? The Rooney rule is in place because of this family and the work they have done to blacks in the game. Could it be that the family sees this as a potential problem where they jettisoned a black player with problems and don't want to look like they kept a white player with problems?Is that remotely at play? And I don't ask in a racism way at all - I don't use that term and find it meaningless. I just mean could this be not just the Steelers wanting to hold themselves higher in a class and morality (for lack of better terms) terms but also to make sure they continue to treat all players equally, including the issues of color?

The same question has come up repeatedly on local sports talk radio the last 48 hours. So it's not all that off the wall. Naturally, nobody seems to have any idea whether there's anything to it, but you're certainly not alone in wondering.

Fair enough. I would think then that a trade is entirely possible, and most likely probable, if this is an important point of contention. I will still be amazed if they trade him, though.

Well, it's a point of contention between talk show hosts and angry local callers. But the front office certainly isn't coming out and making any statements of the sort. I don't think this is any kind of tell; just an acknowledgment that you're not alone in considering the Rooney Rule angle.

Talk show hosts play up things like race to boost listenership. They know what works.