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Just heard on Mike & Mike the early line has Baltimore favored by 2 over the Steelers.

It should be interesting to see how much the line changes (if it at all) during the week.

 
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I think the Ravens will stay a modest favorite given that they have the home field.

Has all the earmarks of a 10-7 game, which means it will be 35-31.

 
If the Cowboys shut them down What do you think the Ravens will do to them. Goooooooooooooo Baltimore.

 
If I were still a betting man, I would be all over the Steelers in that one. Pittsburgh has been a better road than home team, and this defensive battle could well come down to which QB makes the right plays at the right times, and I have much more faith in Roethlisberger to come through than Flacco.

Baltimore still has to be kicking themselves for the way they blew that first game between the two this season.

 
If I were still a betting man, I would be all over the Steelers in that one. Pittsburgh has been a better road than home team, and this defensive battle could well come down to which QB makes the right plays at the right times, and I have much more faith in Roethlisberger to come through than Flacco.

Baltimore still has to be kicking themselves for the way they blew that first game between the two this season.
Though I'm sure they'd like a do-over, this team has been pretty good about forgetting a game once it's over. After both of their blowout losses (Indy & NYG) they bounced back to have big wins the next week. In general, I don't think there'll be a hangover from the first meeting though I'm sure some of the big-mouths like Suggs & Scott will have plenty to say. In any case, it's a huge game & should be fun. I think the line may move towards even as the week goes on as the Pitt money exerts itself.

 
If I were still a betting man, I would be all over the Steelers in that one. Pittsburgh has been a better road than home team, and this defensive battle could well come down to which QB makes the right plays at the right times, and I have much more faith in Roethlisberger to come through than Flacco. Baltimore still has to be kicking themselves for the way they blew that first game between the two this season.
The field surface at Heinz really has an impact.The Steelers D is ferocious regardless, but the home surface really slows them down.If Pitt's OL comes to play next week it won't be close.
 
i love these type of games, can't wait

tangential questions:

Raven win next week who owns tiebreaker between the two?

Raven win next week does TEN clinch homefield throughout?

 
The 1st meeting back in Week 4 was a slug fest. I expect a similar game this week in Baltimore, and hopefully the same outcome. Go Steelers!!

 
blackjack23 said:
No way BAL scores more than 10 pts in this game. Will that be enough? I doubt it.
They scored 20 last time at Pittsburgh. While the Steelers' D may be better, so is the Ravens' O. It may well be a low scoring game, but it's certainly not a definite that 10 points is the most Baltimore can score.
 
blackjack23 said:
No way BAL scores more than 10 pts in this game. Will that be enough? I doubt it.
They scored 20 last time at Pittsburgh. While the Steelers' D may be better, so is the Ravens' O. It may well be a low scoring game, but it's certainly not a definite that 10 points is the most Baltimore can score.
It also seems that you can practically pencil in Baltimore's defense or special teams for a TD.
 
I've been very impressed with Flacco. He has a strong arm and is usually accurate. McClain did a nice job against the Steelers last time too. Hopefully LeBeau will come up with some nice schemes for their second meeting.

 
blackjack23 said:
No way BAL scores more than 10 pts in this game. Will that be enough? I doubt it.
They scored 20 last time at Pittsburgh. While the Steelers' D may be better, so is the Ravens' O. It may well be a low scoring game, but it's certainly not a definite that 10 points is the most Baltimore can score.
It also seems that you can practically pencil in Baltimore's defense or special teams for a TD.
Defense yes.......special teams no. The Steelers special teams coverage has been exceptional this season. They play with the same passion and emotion that the STeelers defense plays with. You're not scoring any special teams tds against them.
 
I've been very impressed with Flacco. He has a strong arm and is usually accurate. McClain did a nice job against the Steelers last time too. Hopefully LeBeau will come up with some nice schemes for their second meeting.
He usually does. It'll be interesting watching his chess game with Cameron.
 
If I had to guess the spread, it would've been right around 2, 2.5 points. Realistically an "even" matchup the home team gets 3 points, so Pittsburgh being given credit for being the better team even in a tough road division game.

 
Lash said:
i love these type of games, can't waittangential questions:Raven win next week who owns tiebreaker between the two?Raven win next week does TEN clinch homefield throughout?
Whichever team has the better division record would be first tie breaker after a split head-to-head. If that's equal then I believe it's common opponents. If that's equal it goes to conference record, I think. After that I think it's something like "stength of victory" or something weird like that, then strength of schedule.If Baltimore wins, they'd be at the "common opponent" level, I believe. So far both lost to the Giants and Indy. So that moves them beyond that, unless there's another common opponent that I'm missing. No idea what constitutes "stength of victory." Margin of the wins vs. common opponents? No idea.Ravens still play Dallas and Jax, who Pitt has beat, and Pitt still plays the Titans, who the Ravens lost to, and Cleveland, who Baltimore has beaten twice. If Pittsburgh loses this week, it may well just come down to whether they beat the Browns in week 17 as to who wins the division.
 
I think if Baltimore wins out they win the division and the 2 seed. (One common oppt missing is Philly. Balt won, Steelers lost). However if the Steelers win next in Baltimore I think they clinch the division and a bye. Big game.

 
Over/under on total number of overall concussions sustained in this one?

 
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One of the reasons the Ravens are favored in this game is because they haven't lost at home to PITT since 2002.

 
The Ravens and Steelers is one of the best current rivalries in the NFL. The teams are well-matched and they have a level of personal dislike that's rare in today's NFL.

As noted above, the Ravens have won 5 straight home games vs. Pittsburgh. Most people don't realize that the Ravens have an incredible home record this decade. Check out home wins since 2000:

Patriots - 52 wins (1 home game left)

Colts - 51 (2 home games left)

Ravens - 51 (2 home games left)

Denver - 50 (1 home game left)

Steelers - 50 (1 home game left)

The downside for the Ravens is that it's going to be tough for them to win the division, even if they beat Pittsburgh and win out. If the Titans beat Houston this week and the Ravens beat Pittsburgh, then the Titans clinch the #1 seed and have nothing to play for when they face the Steelers in Week 16. If both the Steelers and Ravens finish at 12-4, the Steelers would get the division and #2 seed (beating Tenn. would tie the Steelers with the Ravens for Common Opponents) and the Steelers would win on AFC record.

 
I think it'll all come down to Bruce Arians gameplan. I KNOW Cam Cameron will come up with some inventive stuff, I HOPE Arians does. The complexion of the first matchup changed completely when the Steelers went to the no huddle.

I would almost be willing to index the outcome to a run/pass split on first down for the Steelers. If they pass more than they run, they probably win. If they insist on running on first down most of the time, I don't like the odds.

 
I think it'll all come down to Bruce Arians gameplan. I KNOW Cam Cameron will come up with some inventive stuff, I HOPE Arians does. The complexion of the first matchup changed completely when the Steelers went to the no huddle.I would almost be willing to index the outcome to a run/pass split on first down for the Steelers. If they pass more than they run, they probably win. If they insist on running on first down most of the time, I don't like the odds.
Hopefully they work away from Ed Reed. I hate those who constantly criticize coordinators but I sure wish the Steelers ran more high percentage plays on third and medium/short. How about working the middle of the field?
 
They scored 20 last time at Pittsburgh. While the Steelers' D may be better, so is the Ravens' O. It may well be a low scoring game, but it's certainly not a definite that 10 points is the most Baltimore can score.
Baltimore's offense has scored 30 TDs and the Steelers offense has scored 29. Baltimore is ranked higher in rushing but the Steelers are ranked higher than Baltimore in passing. I think the offenses are pretty darn close as are the defenses.This game should be a slugfest.

 
They scored 20 last time at Pittsburgh. While the Steelers' D may be better, so is the Ravens' O. It may well be a low scoring game, but it's certainly not a definite that 10 points is the most Baltimore can score.
Baltimore's offense has scored 30 TDs and the Steelers offense has scored 29. Baltimore is ranked higher in rushing but the Steelers are ranked higher than Baltimore in passing. I think the offenses are pretty darn close as are the defenses.This game should be a slugfest.
I worded that all wrong. What I meant was that the Steelers' D may be better than it was in the first game, and the Ravens offense is playing better than they were then.
 
They scored 20 last time at Pittsburgh. While the Steelers' D may be better, so is the Ravens' O. It may well be a low scoring game, but it's certainly not a definite that 10 points is the most Baltimore can score.
Baltimore's offense has scored 30 TDs and the Steelers offense has scored 29. Baltimore is ranked higher in rushing but the Steelers are ranked higher than Baltimore in passing. I think the offenses are pretty darn close as are the defenses.This game should be a slugfest.
I worded that all wrong. What I meant was that the Steelers' D may be better than it was in the first game, and the Ravens offense is playing better than they were then.
Gotcha. And I agree 100%.
 
This should be one seriously brutal football game.
I'm going to be on vacation in Mexico starting Saturday. The resort has a Sports Bar (I've been there before) but it's not like Sports Bars in the US - they get mostly international channels though I think they get a couple NY locals. I've written management at the resort asking if they know if they can get this game on TV :thumbup:
 
so is this the ***OFFICIAL**** Steelers-Ravens preview thread?

I have to say it's been awfully civil so far. I expect that to last until maybe Wednesday, or until the Hines Ward/Suggs bounty talk starts.

 
so is this the ***OFFICIAL**** Steelers-Ravens preview thread?I have to say it's been awfully civil so far. I expect that to last until maybe Wednesday, or until the Hines Ward/Suggs bounty talk starts.
lolI was just about to bring that upI think the Ravens might get too amped trying to pay Hines back and that seems to backfire.I also hoep someone canceled Mendenhall's texting plan - that was a serious foot in mouth moment.Good game coming!
 
The Ravens and Steelers is one of the best current rivalries in the NFL. The teams are well-matched and they have a level of personal dislike that's rare in today's NFL.
Probably because this is the only matchup of two franchises that have won super bowls this decade that reside in the same division. And the Ravens still have very visible links to that team like Ray Lewis.
 
This is going to be a bloodbath

I can't imagine the # of injuries that are going to happen. the Dallas/Pitt game was bad with the weather (figuring most were just stingers, bumps bruises with the hard ground)

 
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so is this the ***OFFICIAL**** Steelers-Ravens preview thread?I have to say it's been awfully civil so far. I expect that to last until maybe Wednesday, or until the Hines Ward/Suggs bounty talk starts.
Heck with that let me start right now: Ray Lewis wears ladies underwear instead of under armor!
 
so is this the ***OFFICIAL**** Steelers-Ravens preview thread?I have to say it's been awfully civil so far. I expect that to last until maybe Wednesday, or until the Hines Ward/Suggs bounty talk starts.
Heck with that let me start right now: Ray Lewis wears ladies underwear instead of under armor!
oh yeah? Well Polamalu's hair is actually a bunch of extensions made from the merkins of Samoan hookers
 
so is this the ***OFFICIAL**** Steelers-Ravens preview thread?

I have to say it's been awfully civil so far. I expect that to last until maybe Wednesday, or until the Hines Ward/Suggs bounty talk starts.
Well, despite the closeness of the series, the Stillers have the better track record, so we don't have much to yap about.[samwyche] "YOU'RE NOT FROM CLEVELAND" [/samwyche]

 
This reminds me a little of the 2001 season when the Steelers came into Baltimore in about Week 12 or 13 and beat the Ravens to win the AFC Central in its final year of existence. Kordell hit Bobby Shaw for a 90-yard TD that was the difference. Well, that, and the horrible play of Elvis Grbac.

That was a Sunday Night game, and the crowd had been getting ready for hours. There were brawls aplenty that night in my section of the upper deck. My brother-in-law is from DC and came up for the game -- his one and only time at a game in Baltimore. He still talks about how he's never going back. I think that was the same game where Goose told the Ravens fans to work over anyone wearing Steelers gear in the bathrooms.

The place will be rocking Sunday, that's for sure. You know, as I watch the Ravens offense now and see what it's like just to have a competent (not even good) complement to the defense, I get so pissed at Billick for the years of cruddy football Baltimore endured and wonder how many more games the Ravens could have won over the last decade.

 
In addition to being one of the hottest teams in the NFL right now with wins in 7 of their last 8 games, the Ravens have some pretty awesome home stats.

Top 10 reasons Baltimore will win.

In 6 home games:

1) They have not given up more than 254 total yds of offense in any game. 4 of the 6 opponents have been held under 210 total yds.

2) They haven't given up more than 80 yds rushing in any game, and an average of just 63.5 yds per game.

3) They haven't given up more than 13 pts, and 5 of the 6 opponents have been held to 10 pts or under.

4) They have only given up 4 offensive TD's total , and have 13 INT's.

5) They haven't given up a single rushing TD.

6) They have given up an average of just 11.5 FD's per game, and not more than 14 in any one game.

7) Have averaged +9.6 minutes per game in time-of-possesion, and +10.5 more plays per game than their opponents.

8) They are 5-1 at home, with every win by at least a TD, and 4 of the 5 wins have been by 2 TD's or more.

9) They are +7 in TO's.

10) In the last 5 meetings with Pittsburgh in Baltimore, the Ravens are 5-0 SU.

 
In addition to being one of the hottest teams in the NFL right now with wins in 7 of their last 8 games, the Ravens have some pretty awesome home stats.Top 10 reasons Baltimore will win. In 6 home games:1) They have not given up more than 254 total yds of offense in any game. 4 of the 6 opponents have been held under 210 total yds.2) They haven't given up more than 80 yds rushing in any game, and an average of just 63.5 yds per game.3) They haven't given up more than 13 pts, and 5 of the 6 opponents have been held to 10 pts or under.4) They have only given up 4 offensive TD's total , and have 13 INT's. 5) They haven't given up a single rushing TD.6) They have given up an average of just 11.5 FD's per game, and not more than 14 in any one game.7) Have averaged +9.6 minutes per game in time-of-possesion, and +10.5 more plays per game than their opponents.8) They are 5-1 at home, with every win by at least a TD, and 4 of the 5 wins have been by 2 TD's or more.9) They are +7 in TO's.10) In the last 5 meetings with Pittsburgh in Baltimore, the Ravens are 5-0 SU.
This is a huge rivalry game, throw all the stats out the window. It will be a game of field positions and who wins the turnover battle. I think there will be a lot of Steelers and Ravens who will be on the injury report for the following weeks games. :shrug: :topcat: :hey:
 
i love these type of games, can't waittangential questions:Raven win next week who owns tiebreaker between the two?Raven win next week does TEN clinch homefield throughout?
Whichever team has the better division record would be first tie breaker after a split head-to-head. If that's equal then I believe it's common opponents. If that's equal it goes to conference record, I think. After that I think it's something like "stength of victory" or something weird like that, then strength of schedule.If Baltimore wins, they'd be at the "common opponent" level, I believe. So far both lost to the Giants and Indy. So that moves them beyond that, unless there's another common opponent that I'm missing. No idea what constitutes "stength of victory." Margin of the wins vs. common opponents? No idea.Ravens still play Dallas and Jax, who Pitt has beat, and Pitt still plays the Titans, who the Ravens lost to, and Cleveland, who Baltimore has beaten twice. If Pittsburgh loses this week, it may well just come down to whether they beat the Browns in week 17 as to who wins the division.
This is exactly right. Steelers win, they clinch the divison (and maybe the #2 seed as well.) If Baltimore wins, Pittsburgh still wins the division based on conference record if they defeat Tennessee and Cleveland. If Baltimore wins and the Steelers lose to Tennessee, obviously Baltimore wins the division if they win out, but would lose it if they lose to Jacksonville. If they lose to Dallas and then both teams win week 17, then we're getting into some really deep tiebreakers. I don't know who wins on strength of victory.
 
I'm guessing that this game is won by the defense that scores the most, but the real victory will be which team leaves the field the healthiest. Both teams have RB's that are already beaten up, and both QB's will look like lunch to the other team. Winning is important, but maybe not as important as living to play next week.

 
In addition to being one of the hottest teams in the NFL right now with wins in 7 of their last 8 games, the Ravens have some pretty awesome home stats.Top 10 reasons Baltimore will win. In 6 home games:1) They have not given up more than 254 total yds of offense in any game. 4 of the 6 opponents have been held under 210 total yds.2) They haven't given up more than 80 yds rushing in any game, and an average of just 63.5 yds per game.3) They haven't given up more than 13 pts, and 5 of the 6 opponents have been held to 10 pts or under.4) They have only given up 4 offensive TD's total , and have 13 INT's. 5) They haven't given up a single rushing TD.6) They have given up an average of just 11.5 FD's per game, and not more than 14 in any one game.7) Have averaged +9.6 minutes per game in time-of-possesion, and +10.5 more plays per game than their opponents.8) They are 5-1 at home, with every win by at least a TD, and 4 of the 5 wins have been by 2 TD's or more.9) They are +7 in TO's.10) In the last 5 meetings with Pittsburgh in Baltimore, the Ravens are 5-0 SU.
This is a huge rivalry game, throw all the stats out the window. It will be a game of field positions and who wins the turnover battle. I think there will be a lot of Steelers and Ravens who will be on the injury report for the following weeks games. :hot: :topcat: :football:
:fishing: But I believe it will go more like :topcat: :football: :towelwave:
 

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