From where I'm sitting, FredEx and Stevie S. have the same odds of getting a ring.The part where FredEx currently has a better chance of getting a ring than himWhat belt?And what part of Smith's comments are untrue?I don't know. Until I see Smith in a ring, I've got to go with the guy who's currently holding the belt.He would beat the crap out of Mitchell.
Let's assume for a minute that Smith was fully healthy, and he had the SAME knowledge of Philly's offense that Mitchell has. Think Reid would prefer Smith over Mitchell? Me too.At this point Steve Smith has every right to talk. He has been there, he is better then Mitchell and he is completly right.
Tell that to Buerlson, Cambell, Robinson, Price, Jenkins, et al.At least we've got some entertainment during the long two weeks.....Mitchell stepped up?.....Tough not to do when Owens is on the bench and Pinkston's the other WR.
Is being in the right spot when his teammate coughs the ball up into the end zone for a gimme touchdown really an example of "making a play"?What about fumbling out of the endzone for a turnover?The only thing I am defending is FredEx's allowance to speak. Let him speak all he wants. As far as I am concerned, as an Eagles fan, is that as a WR3 enetering the season, when the team needed him most, FredEx has stepped up. You cant deny that when give the opportunity FredEx has made plays in the playoffs. FredEx hasnt started talking smack since the playoffs. He has performed, and in my book, he can talk smack until he doesnt back it up.Look, Freida brought this upon herself. So Steve Smith couldn't hold back what many others were also thinking. So what? He probably should have kept quiet, but a reporter asked, and he answered.Dont think I am calling fredEx the butter on the Eagles bread. I am simply stating there are 30 other teams full of WRs that would love to be in FredEx's shoes even riding the pine.SSmith, whom I think is a great NFL receiver, needs to keep his mouth shut while on the golf course. Let Freddie decide his own fate.Uh yeah, whatever. Mitchell sucks...and realizing you're about to have some reliance on the guy should scare you, deeply.The part where FredEx currently has a better chance of getting a ring than himWhat belt?And what part of Smith's comments are untrue?I don't know. Until I see Smith in a ring, I've got to go with the guy who's currently holding the belt.He would beat the crap out of Mitchell.
He sucks. What a horrible first round pick. And what a total moron. Go on, be proud.
The difference here is that Smith really does have ground to speak on...and Freida doesn't. Smith was an integral part of Carolina's offensive success. He has been an over-achiever....Mitchell has been an under-achiever. She did little to get her team there...and she has been nothing but a disappointment since being drafted in the first round. Smith simply stated that, when asked. And he's right.
JAA, you've been vocal in your support of TO, and his mouth...largely because you think he mostly speaks the truth. Okay then, but don't be a hypocrite when another player speaks the truth...just because he isn't on "your" team.
PURE GOLD!!!!JAA, you've been vocal in your support of TO, and his mouth...largely because you think he mostly speaks the truth. Okay then, but don't be a hypocrite when another player speaks the truth...just because he isn't on "your" team.
From where I'm sitting, FredEx and Stevie S. have the same odds of getting a ring.The part where FredEx currently has a better chance of getting a ring than himWhat belt?And what part of Smith's comments are untrue?I don't know. Until I see Smith in a ring, I've got to go with the guy who's currently holding the belt.He would beat the crap out of Mitchell.
Let's assume for a minute that Smith was fully healthy, and he had the SAME knowledge of Philly's offense that Mitchell has. Think Reid would prefer Smith over Mitchell? Me too.At this point Steve Smith has every right to talk. He has been there, he is better then Mitchell and he is completly right.
Are you serious? You are suggesting that Freddie si better or even as good Smith? Now when it come to bumping the gums Freddie has an edge. At catching the ball, no way.FredEx has more than 3 times the catches that Smith did this year. Stop teh h4t3!!
I think you are mistaken...... Not that I am a Freddie Mitchel fan however, in two playoff games he has 7 catches for 85 yds and a touchdown. That is hardly worth calling someone out and saying they are riding their team to the superbowl. I mean granted Freddie makes a fool of himself with his actions he has done more in the playoffs than many of the great recievers have done in the NFL this year. Freddie should thank his team for getting this far however he should not be penalized for playing on a good team. It seems to me Steve Smith should worry about his recovery and next season as Muhammed did a wonderful job without him there this year. In fact, Steve might be number 2 there next year. I think Friday_Frenzy you are jealous that the Eagles are in the superbowl while your team had another dismil playoff run. Do you have a close friend who likes the Eagles or something>?>>Being in the Superbowl means nothing if you didn't really contribute so some player along for the ride to the Superbowl has NO right to talk smack. That is exactly what Freddie is doing.
Are you serious? You are suggesting that Freddie si better or even as good Smith? Now when it come to bumping the gums Freddie has an edge. At catching the ball, no way.FredEx has more than 3 times the catches that Smith did this year. Stop teh h4t3!!
I'm curious.... were you sitting in on that meeting? Is there nothing another human being can say to you which would cause you to fly off the handle? If your answer is "yes", then please accept my apology.I hate freddie mitchell...
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isnt steve smith the piece of #### that put one of his own fellow wrs in the hospital because he decided to beat the piss out of a rookie during a receivers meeting? yeah.. he is that guy.. broke a kids jaw and put a team mate in the hospital.. he is a real class act and someone that has earned the right to talk crap..
Is being in the right spot when his teammate coughs the ball up into the end zone for a gimme touchdown really an example of "making a play"?What about fumbling out of the endzone for a turnover?FredEx is a Legend in His Own Mind .. and history has usually dealt cruelly with these sorts of characters. I'm looking forward to Freddie's lunchdate with humble pie.
i think being there to grab that fumble is EXACTLY the definition of "making a play". mitchell could have very easily just jogged through that play... since he wasn't involved. but he hustled over to where the action was... and was rewarded on a fortuitous bounce. if freddy doesn't hustle over there, it's a turnover.the fumble out of the endzone was just an example of a player trying to do too much. happens all the time in the NFL. i think most coaches would take a guy who will fight for every yard over a guy who runs out of bounds any day of the week. and didn't freddy catch an important TD early in that game? the guy almost accounted for 3 TDs in that game.i'm not expecting much out of mitchell in the superbowl. he has shown, however, he's capable of making a big play if called upon. bottom line... he's contributed to the eagles being in the superbowl. if he wants to put himself in the spotlight, that's his business... its certainly not steve smith or any other NFL player who isn't playing sunday.
I only made it that far... Excuse me, I need to fetch a rag to clean the Coke off the keyboard.i think being there to grab that fumble is EXACTLY the definition of "making a play".
Seriously?Being in the right spot at the right time is part luck, part hustle, and catching the ball was a heads up play. His hands deserved the praise I don't much like FredEx, but Smith has one year of success, hardly the guy I want speaking out here. There's at least a handful of WRs in the league whose opinions I'd respect here, but Smith isn't one of them.Freddie is enjoying his 15 minutes of fame, if we take what he says as a joke, it's fairly funny. Smith is just embarrasing himself.FWIW, neither really has shown enough to call a HOFer out, or a guy playing in the Super Bowl. I truly expect Rodney to teach Freddie some manners on the field, but Smith needs to get his head on straight too.Is being in the right spot when his teammate coughs the ball up into the end zone for a gimme touchdown really an example of "making a play"?What about fumbling out of the endzone for a turnover?FredEx is a Legend in His Own Mind .. and history has usually dealt cruelly with these sorts of characters. I'm looking forward to Freddie's lunchdate with humble pie.i think being there to grab that fumble is EXACTLY the definition of "making a play". mitchell could have very easily just jogged through that play... since he wasn't involved. but he hustled over to where the action was... and was rewarded on a fortuitous bounce. if freddy doesn't hustle over there, it's a turnover.the fumble out of the endzone was just an example of a player trying to do too much. happens all the time in the NFL. i think most coaches would take a guy who will fight for every yard over a guy who runs out of bounds any day of the week. and didn't freddy catch an important TD early in that game? the guy almost accounted for 3 TDs in that game.i'm not expecting much out of mitchell in the superbowl. he has shown, however, he's capable of making a big play if called upon. bottom line... he's contributed to the eagles being in the superbowl. if he wants to put himself in the spotlight, that's his business... its certainly not steve smith or any other NFL player who isn't playing sunday.I only made it that far... Excuse me, I need to fetch a rag to clean the Coke off the keyboard.i think being there to grab that fumble is EXACTLY the definition of "making a play".
is my guess.Question: If FredEx backs up his talk with a good/great Super Bowl performance, what will everyone say then?
Blame the Irish.Question: If FredEx backs up his talk with a good/great Super Bowl performance, what will everyone say then?
so i guess in your mind... i receiver has to go up and snag a ball with one hand, off-balanced, in the snow, ala ronald curry... for you to consider it "making a play".i'm not trying to suggest that freddy mitchell is the next jerry rice. i'm just saying the guy HAS made a couple big plays for the eagles... particularly in the playoffs. more importantly, steve smith was probably home playing madden while freddy was making that heads up fumble recovery... so he can go pound sand. mitchell's got a big mouth... but he managed to keep it closed while other teams got interviewed during past superbowls. so what's smith's problem? sounds like he still hasn't quite accepted being a later draft pick. but oh well.. thems the breaks.Is being in the right spot when his teammate coughs the ball up into the end zone for a gimme touchdown really an example of "making a play"?What about fumbling out of the endzone for a turnover?FredEx is a Legend in His Own Mind .. and history has usually dealt cruelly with these sorts of characters. I'm looking forward to Freddie's lunchdate with humble pie.i think being there to grab that fumble is EXACTLY the definition of "making a play". mitchell could have very easily just jogged through that play... since he wasn't involved. but he hustled over to where the action was... and was rewarded on a fortuitous bounce. if freddy doesn't hustle over there, it's a turnover.the fumble out of the endzone was just an example of a player trying to do too much. happens all the time in the NFL. i think most coaches would take a guy who will fight for every yard over a guy who runs out of bounds any day of the week. and didn't freddy catch an important TD early in that game? the guy almost accounted for 3 TDs in that game.i'm not expecting much out of mitchell in the superbowl. he has shown, however, he's capable of making a big play if called upon. bottom line... he's contributed to the eagles being in the superbowl. if he wants to put himself in the spotlight, that's his business... its certainly not steve smith or any other NFL player who isn't playing sunday.I only made it that far... Excuse me, I need to fetch a rag to clean the Coke off the keyboard.i think being there to grab that fumble is EXACTLY the definition of "making a play".
We are not talking about sitting in a bar having a beer.steve smith beat the piss out of his own team mate while in the middle of a team meeting and put the kid in the hospital with a broken face... he had to be disciplined by the team and was lucky that the team did a good enough job of sweeping it under the carpet that the kid didnt press criminal charges...I'm curious.... were you sitting in on that meeting? Is there nothing another human being can say to you which would cause you to fly off the handle? If your answer is "yes", then please accept my apology.I hate freddie mitchell...
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isnt steve smith the piece of #### that put one of his own fellow wrs in the hospital because he decided to beat the piss out of a rookie during a receivers meeting? yeah.. he is that guy.. broke a kids jaw and put a team mate in the hospital.. he is a real class act and someone that has earned the right to talk crap..
Stop spouting off logic and reason in here, most dont understand itWe are not talking about sitting in a bar having a beer.steve smith beat the piss out of his own team mate while in the middle of a team meeting and put the kid in the hospital with a broken face... he had to be disciplined by the team and was lucky that the team did a good enough job of sweeping it under the carpet that the kid didnt press criminal charges...I'm curious.... were you sitting in on that meeting? Is there nothing another human being can say to you which would cause you to fly off the handle? If your answer is "yes", then please accept my apology.I hate freddie mitchell...
BUT...
isnt steve smith the piece of #### that put one of his own fellow wrs in the hospital because he decided to beat the piss out of a rookie during a receivers meeting? yeah.. he is that guy.. broke a kids jaw and put a team mate in the hospital.. he is a real class act and someone that has earned the right to talk crap..
but to answer your question..
if i am sitting in a meeting at the office.. no.. there is NOTHING that someone could say to me to beat the piss out of them.. it is called being a professional.. I dont beat the piss out of coworkers..
and i will take it a step further..
i play hockey.. i have been the captain of my hockey team for 6 years.
there is nothing that one of my team mates could say to me to physically attack them.. could they say enough to have me boot them off the team? yeah, sure.. but i a grown man with a wife and a child, and i would not risk criminal prosecution because some idiot can not control his mouth...
both of these examples are assuming that the kid said something to steve smith that was so horrible.. so worst case scenario.. the more likely scenario is that a rookie made a smart ### remark during a receivers meeting and steve smith had to lay down the law to look like a bad ### and broke a kids jaw in the process..
either way.. steve smith is a ##### that i would not want on my team.
Just curious, but how many questions did the People's Champ field from reporters during past Superbowls in which he managed to keep his mouth shut? Must be easy to keep your mouth shut when there is nobody asking questions. Look, Freddy made some funny comments. (Perhaps not smart, but they were funny. Plus walking around with a title belt is priceless.) Up to this point, Freddy's career in the NFL is a joke. If he wants to add to his NFL 'achievments' by being known as a league comedian, fine. But all of his supporters do not need to jump on anybody that dares to point out that Freddy's NFL career has been a joke up to this point.Once Freddy starts putting up the numbers he may be seen as a talented jerk in the Moss and TO class. Until then, Freddy will only be seen as a clown. But if all Freddy is worried about is getting his name in the papers, it might be easier for him going this route instead of having to produce on the field.mitchell's got a big mouth... but he managed to keep it closed while other teams got interviewed during past superbowls.
So YOU TWO are the guys who would try to "reason things out" if someone called your mother a whore.Stop spouting off logic and reason in here, most dont understand itWe are not talking about sitting in a bar having a beer.steve smith beat the piss out of his own team mate while in the middle of a team meeting and put the kid in the hospital with a broken face... he had to be disciplined by the team and was lucky that the team did a good enough job of sweeping it under the carpet that the kid didnt press criminal charges...I'm curious.... were you sitting in on that meeting? Is there nothing another human being can say to you which would cause you to fly off the handle? If your answer is "yes", then please accept my apology.I hate freddie mitchell...
BUT...
isnt steve smith the piece of #### that put one of his own fellow wrs in the hospital because he decided to beat the piss out of a rookie during a receivers meeting? yeah.. he is that guy.. broke a kids jaw and put a team mate in the hospital.. he is a real class act and someone that has earned the right to talk crap..
but to answer your question..
if i am sitting in a meeting at the office.. no.. there is NOTHING that someone could say to me to beat the piss out of them.. it is called being a professional.. I dont beat the piss out of coworkers..
and i will take it a step further..
i play hockey.. i have been the captain of my hockey team for 6 years.
there is nothing that one of my team mates could say to me to physically attack them.. could they say enough to have me boot them off the team? yeah, sure.. but i a grown man with a wife and a child, and i would not risk criminal prosecution because some idiot can not control his mouth...
both of these examples are assuming that the kid said something to steve smith that was so horrible.. so worst case scenario.. the more likely scenario is that a rookie made a smart ### remark during a receivers meeting and steve smith had to lay down the law to look like a bad ### and broke a kids jaw in the process..
either way.. steve smith is a ##### that i would not want on my team.
Is there any evidence that that's what was said?He's a very talented receiver, but the little fella has some serious anger management issues. He is another Ron Artest in my book.So YOU TWO are the guys who would try to "reason things out" if someone called your mother a whore.
At work? Where I was being paid millions of dollars? Yes. You?So YOU TWO are the guys who would try to "reason things out" if someone called your mother a whore.Stop spouting off logic and reason in here, most dont understand itWe are not talking about sitting in a bar having a beer.steve smith beat the piss out of his own team mate while in the middle of a team meeting and put the kid in the hospital with a broken face... he had to be disciplined by the team and was lucky that the team did a good enough job of sweeping it under the carpet that the kid didnt press criminal charges...I'm curious.... were you sitting in on that meeting? Is there nothing another human being can say to you which would cause you to fly off the handle? If your answer is "yes", then please accept my apology.I hate freddie mitchell...
BUT...
isnt steve smith the piece of #### that put one of his own fellow wrs in the hospital because he decided to beat the piss out of a rookie during a receivers meeting? yeah.. he is that guy.. broke a kids jaw and put a team mate in the hospital.. he is a real class act and someone that has earned the right to talk crap..
but to answer your question..
if i am sitting in a meeting at the office.. no.. there is NOTHING that someone could say to me to beat the piss out of them.. it is called being a professional.. I dont beat the piss out of coworkers..
and i will take it a step further..
i play hockey.. i have been the captain of my hockey team for 6 years.
there is nothing that one of my team mates could say to me to physically attack them.. could they say enough to have me boot them off the team? yeah, sure.. but i a grown man with a wife and a child, and i would not risk criminal prosecution because some idiot can not control his mouth...
both of these examples are assuming that the kid said something to steve smith that was so horrible.. so worst case scenario.. the more likely scenario is that a rookie made a smart ### remark during a receivers meeting and steve smith had to lay down the law to look like a bad ### and broke a kids jaw in the process..
either way.. steve smith is a ##### that i would not want on my team.
I have no idea what was said. But neither does anyone on this board. I'm simply taking issue with the assertion that "nothing" is worth fighting over. That's total I don't care if a guy is twice your size and you KNOW you're gonna get the #### kicked out of you. At a certain point, you will not permit yourself to be disrespected.Is there any evidence that that's what was said?He's a very talented receiver, but the little fella has some serious anger management issues. He is another Ron Artest in my book.So YOU TWO are the guys who would try to "reason things out" if someone called your mother a whore.
Sorry. I must have missed the part where Smith was cut by the Panthers.At work? Where I was being paid millions of dollars? Yes. You?So YOU TWO are the guys who would try to "reason things out" if someone called your mother a whore.Stop spouting off logic and reason in here, most dont understand itWe are not talking about sitting in a bar having a beer.steve smith beat the piss out of his own team mate while in the middle of a team meeting and put the kid in the hospital with a broken face... he had to be disciplined by the team and was lucky that the team did a good enough job of sweeping it under the carpet that the kid didnt press criminal charges...I'm curious.... were you sitting in on that meeting? Is there nothing another human being can say to you which would cause you to fly off the handle? If your answer is "yes", then please accept my apology.I hate freddie mitchell...
BUT...
isnt steve smith the piece of #### that put one of his own fellow wrs in the hospital because he decided to beat the piss out of a rookie during a receivers meeting? yeah.. he is that guy.. broke a kids jaw and put a team mate in the hospital.. he is a real class act and someone that has earned the right to talk crap..
but to answer your question..
if i am sitting in a meeting at the office.. no.. there is NOTHING that someone could say to me to beat the piss out of them.. it is called being a professional.. I dont beat the piss out of coworkers..
and i will take it a step further..
i play hockey.. i have been the captain of my hockey team for 6 years.
there is nothing that one of my team mates could say to me to physically attack them.. could they say enough to have me boot them off the team? yeah, sure.. but i a grown man with a wife and a child, and i would not risk criminal prosecution because some idiot can not control his mouth...
both of these examples are assuming that the kid said something to steve smith that was so horrible.. so worst case scenario.. the more likely scenario is that a rookie made a smart ### remark during a receivers meeting and steve smith had to lay down the law to look like a bad ### and broke a kids jaw in the process..
either way.. steve smith is a ##### that i would not want on my team.
And just to clarify, it's okay for someone to say anything they want about you, your mother, your family, et al., just as long as you're getting paid handsomely? Is that about right? Nice standards.At work? Where I was being paid millions of dollars? Yes. You?So YOU TWO are the guys who would try to "reason things out" if someone called your mother a whore.Stop spouting off logic and reason in here, most dont understand itWe are not talking about sitting in a bar having a beer.steve smith beat the piss out of his own team mate while in the middle of a team meeting and put the kid in the hospital with a broken face... he had to be disciplined by the team and was lucky that the team did a good enough job of sweeping it under the carpet that the kid didnt press criminal charges...I'm curious.... were you sitting in on that meeting? Is there nothing another human being can say to you which would cause you to fly off the handle? If your answer is "yes", then please accept my apology.I hate freddie mitchell...
BUT...
isnt steve smith the piece of #### that put one of his own fellow wrs in the hospital because he decided to beat the piss out of a rookie during a receivers meeting? yeah.. he is that guy.. broke a kids jaw and put a team mate in the hospital.. he is a real class act and someone that has earned the right to talk crap..
but to answer your question..
if i am sitting in a meeting at the office.. no.. there is NOTHING that someone could say to me to beat the piss out of them.. it is called being a professional.. I dont beat the piss out of coworkers..
and i will take it a step further..
i play hockey.. i have been the captain of my hockey team for 6 years.
there is nothing that one of my team mates could say to me to physically attack them.. could they say enough to have me boot them off the team? yeah, sure.. but i a grown man with a wife and a child, and i would not risk criminal prosecution because some idiot can not control his mouth...
both of these examples are assuming that the kid said something to steve smith that was so horrible.. so worst case scenario.. the more likely scenario is that a rookie made a smart ### remark during a receivers meeting and steve smith had to lay down the law to look like a bad ### and broke a kids jaw in the process..
either way.. steve smith is a ##### that i would not want on my team.
did i say that i would "reason things out"?i just said i wouldnt turn the guys face into hamburger..So YOU TWO are the guys who would try to "reason things out" if someone called your mother a whore.Stop spouting off logic and reason in here, most dont understand itWe are not talking about sitting in a bar having a beer.steve smith beat the piss out of his own team mate while in the middle of a team meeting and put the kid in the hospital with a broken face... he had to be disciplined by the team and was lucky that the team did a good enough job of sweeping it under the carpet that the kid didnt press criminal charges...I'm curious.... were you sitting in on that meeting? Is there nothing another human being can say to you which would cause you to fly off the handle? If your answer is "yes", then please accept my apology.I hate freddie mitchell...
BUT...
isnt steve smith the piece of #### that put one of his own fellow wrs in the hospital because he decided to beat the piss out of a rookie during a receivers meeting? yeah.. he is that guy.. broke a kids jaw and put a team mate in the hospital.. he is a real class act and someone that has earned the right to talk crap..
but to answer your question..
if i am sitting in a meeting at the office.. no.. there is NOTHING that someone could say to me to beat the piss out of them.. it is called being a professional.. I dont beat the piss out of coworkers..
and i will take it a step further..
i play hockey.. i have been the captain of my hockey team for 6 years.
there is nothing that one of my team mates could say to me to physically attack them.. could they say enough to have me boot them off the team? yeah, sure.. but i a grown man with a wife and a child, and i would not risk criminal prosecution because some idiot can not control his mouth...
both of these examples are assuming that the kid said something to steve smith that was so horrible.. so worst case scenario.. the more likely scenario is that a rookie made a smart ### remark during a receivers meeting and steve smith had to lay down the law to look like a bad ### and broke a kids jaw in the process..
either way.. steve smith is a ##### that i would not want on my team.
at work.. yeah.. i would let a kid run his mouth.. and handle it later.. but regardless.. there is no way the kid said something like that..I have no idea what was said. But neither does anyone on this board. I'm simply taking issue with the assertion that "nothing" is worth fighting over. That's total I don't care if a guy is twice your size and you KNOW you're gonna get the #### kicked out of you. At a certain point, you will not permit yourself to be disrespected.Is there any evidence that that's what was said?He's a very talented receiver, but the little fella has some serious anger management issues. He is another Ron Artest in my book.So YOU TWO are the guys who would try to "reason things out" if someone called your mother a whore.
That's all I'm sayin.
Actually, I don't believe anything was said to Smith when he submarined his teammate. IIRC all the Panther WR's were watching films, Smith missed a block or made a bad effort on a play and the other WR laughed when the coaches replayed it and chewed him out, so Smith flipped. Not sure if there were any events prior to then that would lead to Smith having such a short fuse with the other individual though...I have no idea what was said. But neither does anyone on this board.
One theory is that he had been chatting on a internet board, tempers were flaring over something small turned into a "manhood issue", and it carried over.Not sure if there were any events prior to then that would lead to Smith having such a short fuse with the other individual though...
Oh, so if before hand I knew I would not get fired for this act? Well ... no, I still wouldntSorry. I must have missed the part where Smith was cut by the Panthers.At work? Where I was being paid millions of dollars? Yes. You?
This is a question which is impossible to answer. It all depends on the severity of what was said. Where the inflammatory comments occurred is inconsequential to me. I think you're getting too hung up on the fact that the person doing the disrespecting is a coworker. Because he works with me, that gives him the license to say anything he pleases? Help me understand.so i want to get this straight.. your saying that its ok to put a coworker in the hospital if they say something that you take as "disrespectful"?