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Steve Spagnuolo "Staying Put" (1 Viewer)
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Redwes25
Footballguy
I have been hearing that for days now but to finally hear the real news is huge.
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
He seemed overwhelmed by the cheers he was getting, I think its a great move! Coughlin has climbed the moutain, I hope he gets a VERY healthy 4 year deal(I bet he could be looking at 30 mil total) and hopefully the chair stays warm for Spags to step in and head it up for a decade thereafter! Eli, Reese, Bradshaw, Osi, Tuck, some very nice building blocks in place to maybe make a run here!
You guys have the making of a great team there. I tip my hat to the Giants (this coming from a Dallas fan). There's only one thing that gives me as much pleasure as watching Dallas win and that's watching the Patriots lose. Thank you New York Giants, you have forever earned my respect.
Dodge
Footballguy
Until next season right?
Right.Until next season right?
The Shizzle
Footballguy
Alot of money for a guy that only had 9 games under 20 points.
Banger
Footballguy
well, he probably won the SB for them so should count for something.
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NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
Is that counting the 4 playoff games, 2 of which were against the top 2 scoring teams?
nyftbl_giants
Footballguy
Thats what happens when you win it all. People get rewarded
nyftbl_giants
Footballguy
Listening on wfan.comthanks koya didnt know when he was coming on.
The Shizzle
Footballguy
Then they should make Tyree the highest paid receiver in the league.
nyftbl_giants
Footballguy
Excellent idea. Thanks for the input, Weymouth MA
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
during the updates on wfan, they were saying that it is believed that he and the redskins mutually agreed he wasn't ready yet to be a head coach.
Koya
Footballguy
Hmmm, that's interesting. Of course, 2 Mill a year takes a lot of pressure off and while it is tough to find a HC job, if you get an HC job and fail miserably without having an exceptional background beforehand (i.e. Belichick after Cleveland) it may be impossible to get another chance. To have no choice over your coordinators on a team with no cap room and a meddlesome owner puts a lot of pressure on an already near impossible situation.
Banger
Footballguy
you're right. The situations are nearly identical.
The Shizzle
Footballguy
Sorry, I forgot I was only supposed to have an opinion on my local NFL team. Stay classy, NY.
Banger
Footballguy
not another sensitive Pats fan.....
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
Ok, lets think rationally. If Jason Garrett got 3 million to be kept off the market and in waiting as an OC for a team that ran a crap game plan in the playoffs, you don't think a guy who put together three schemes that the ENTIRE COUNTRY picked against doesn't deserve 2 million to keep him off the coaching market? The money is monopoly money, I could rationally argue 100,000 is too much to head coach in this league, but thats neither here nor there. Fact is, there is no salary cap on coaching salary, and this defense seems perfectly matched with personel for what Spags likes to do(blitz, blitz and blitz again). Do you really think this is a bad deal, considering Coughlins age?
The Shizzle
Footballguy
By the way, his name is Steve Spagnuolo.
I guess it's just a changing of the times with teams paying O/D Coordinators a ton of cash. It just seems like alot of money for a first year D Coordinator. Yes, I understand he is good and his team was loaded with talent that fit nicely in his schemes. I'm just shocked at the price. But when you put it in perspective with Coughlin's age, he possibly is being groomed to be the new Giants coach in 3-4 years? Oh, and thank you for the rational thinking, it's refreshing.
And I am not "another sensitive Pats fan".
I guess it's just a changing of the times with teams paying O/D Coordinators a ton of cash. It just seems like alot of money for a first year D Coordinator. Yes, I understand he is good and his team was loaded with talent that fit nicely in his schemes. I'm just shocked at the price. But when you put it in perspective with Coughlin's age, he possibly is being groomed to be the new Giants coach in 3-4 years? Oh, and thank you for the rational thinking, it's refreshing.
And I am not "another sensitive Pats fan".
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
I'm just saying look at the market. Jones sort of blew it up with Garrett, a first year OC making 3 million a year and while they had a nice season, I watched that playoff game with 2 cowboy fans who couldn't believe the departure in game plan for the postseason. Why shift and make Barber a feature back after having not been one all season? He did an awful job. At least Spags was instrumental in getting the Giants to where they are, because you could almost pretend that was a halfway decent secondary they had after being garbage all year.
And you're welcome for the rational thinking.
The Shizzle
Footballguy
I didn't want to mention Jerry, he is a few steps away from sharing a room with Al Davis. These new, young guys are put on such a pedestal. For instance, look at Josh Mcdaniels. He was groomed as Tom Brady's QB coach, Mangini leaves and he gets a promotion to be the O Coordinator. Pats have a great season, Brady his best, and Josh is now listed as being one of the leaders to land the Redskins deal. Some of these coordinators are being touted as the next best coaches in the league and the savior of dismal teams. Giants D was a little shaky at times during the year, mostly lacking consistency due to injuries. But they also had something special this year. You tend to realize it after the fact, they wanted to win more than the Patriots did. Oh yeah, and their game plan as well as their execution was phenomenal in that game.
Do you think he was paid more to not leave or paid more to invest money and time in him for the future of the Giants? As in after Coughlin retires.
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
I think given his current trajectory, he would absolutely be considered the in house candidate to take Coughlin's seat. He's not a young man, I think he'll sign a 4 year deal and be out after that. He was hired after Reese came on board, so I figure there must be some connection in driving that hire, and the players have mentioned him as definite HC material. As for Assistants, its always a crap shoot. How hot were Wannstedt and Norv in the Dallas era? It basically took until this season for one of them to be vindicated. But then you have the factories that the Walsh teams were for coaches, so you just can't tell. Show me a good coach and I'll show you some good talent, so thats always the key to looking good.
Yeh but he is also the only Def Coordinator to beat the Pats, hold them to 14 pts and win a Superbowl this year.
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milo66
Footballguy
Redskins beat writer Sally Jenkins sums up the entire Redskins / Giants / Spagnuolo situation perfectly in today's Washington Post.
Money quote:
"There is a consistent, central weakness in the Redskins' organization that no coach can fix. It's Snyder's tycoon mentality, his assumption that he can purchase people and make them do what he wants, and if they displease him, discard them. His paycheck players and presto coaching solutions fail every time. The franchise is based on a series of extravagant bribes, not a dime of which has ever been spent on the qualities that made the Giants into Super Bowl champions, namely good faith, loyalty, patience, unity and, above all, belief in the leadership at the top.
"Believe!" the Giants defenders shouted at their teammates on the sideline as Manning and the offense took the field for the game-winning drive. Everyone believed. Mara and Tisch believed in Reese, who believed in Coughlin, who believed in the players, who believed back.
Who, at this point, believes in Snyder? Run, Spagnuolo. Run, as fast as you can."
Link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...8020604290.html
Money quote:
"There is a consistent, central weakness in the Redskins' organization that no coach can fix. It's Snyder's tycoon mentality, his assumption that he can purchase people and make them do what he wants, and if they displease him, discard them. His paycheck players and presto coaching solutions fail every time. The franchise is based on a series of extravagant bribes, not a dime of which has ever been spent on the qualities that made the Giants into Super Bowl champions, namely good faith, loyalty, patience, unity and, above all, belief in the leadership at the top.
"Believe!" the Giants defenders shouted at their teammates on the sideline as Manning and the offense took the field for the game-winning drive. Everyone believed. Mara and Tisch believed in Reese, who believed in Coughlin, who believed in the players, who believed back.
Who, at this point, believes in Snyder? Run, Spagnuolo. Run, as fast as you can."
Link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...8020604290.html
horadadude
Footballguy
Leading the league in sacks - dealing with 1 rookie and a patchwork secondary. Holding the number one offense to 14 points in the Superbowl; the number 2 offense to 17 points and the number 3 offense to 20 points? All in the playoffs - that is stellar.
