I know Sjax is geting older, (I think 29) and plays on a bad Rams team. However he now has a run heavy coach and I read an artIcle that mentioined he finally is running behind a fullback. Has he been playing all these years withouth one, or did the article simply mean that he finally is running behind a good one?
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Steven Jackson and a ful back? (1 Viewer)
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Kool-Aid Larry
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mcd isn't a fullback guy, but I couldn't tell you about previous years.
ItsOnlytheRiver
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That dolt Scott Linnehan cut Madison Hedgecock after one game in 2007 so he could add some guy to the roster whose name isn't important because no one would know it anyway. So to answer your question Jackson did have a FB once upon a time for his stellar 2006 season. Don't think he's really had one since.
You have no understanding of football if that's what a fullback does in your opinion. Funny how the Ravens signed Vonta Leach when Ray Rice wasn't indecisive about where to run.
ConnSKINS26
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I honestly think you don't know much about football.
Not in every case but quite a few, look at Donald Brown last year. The Ravens have a full back because they are an old school power running team, I think Rice is talented enough to work with either.
WTH are you talking about? Are you insinuating that Donald Brown couldn't run, so they signed Felton and Mahaffey to block for him? You really don't know what you're talking about. They're two of the worse run blockers in the league. I'm too lazy to check, but I doubt they were even active for most games...and even if they were I doubt they took many snaps to "improve" Brown's running ability. If they did take a lot of snaps they only prove my point because if I remember correctly, Brown got worse as the season went on.
I am not sure what you are talking about but I seen it I believe on NFL live a few weeks ago that Brown got better when the Colts used a fullback towards the end of the year last year. Brown didn't get worse as the season went on he got better, except for the last two games of the year when he faced very good run defenses'whatadai said:
At first, I thought you didn't understand football. Now I know you don't even watch it if you believe Brown's game got better at the end of the year or that the Colts used fullbacks to make his game better. I'm not going to try to argue with someone who obviously didn't watch any games try to pull #### out of their ### to prove that they did.
need2know
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i came in here hoping to read something about SJAX and thats not what I found. 
Anyone else thinking that STL has a pretty hard schedule this year? I know lots of people like SJAX to have one of his best seasons this year because of fisher and the reports he is in great shape. Also, this news of the fullback will only help him imo. But I just wonder how much more production will come from these things? I see basically the same personel and the schedule will do them no favors. He still seems like a good not great option to me and I would prob rather have a high end QB/WR where he is being drafted...
Anyone else thinking that STL has a pretty hard schedule this year? I know lots of people like SJAX to have one of his best seasons this year because of fisher and the reports he is in great shape. Also, this news of the fullback will only help him imo. But I just wonder how much more production will come from these things? I see basically the same personel and the schedule will do them no favors. He still seems like a good not great option to me and I would prob rather have a high end QB/WR where he is being drafted...
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chickensoup
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If you skip past him where he is typically drafted, you get into the great unknown that is Middle RB2 territory. Who do you want, him or Reggie Bush/Shonn Green/Starks/brown as your RB2? He is typically taken very end of second or early third rounds so it's not like you are grabbing Fred Jackson or even Doug Martin where they are being drafted half the time so I think he is perfect value where he is going.he is one of the very last bell cow backs to be drafted this year that has proven RB1 upside. he's on a run first team in a pretty bad, mostly run first division. He should get 20 touches per game most weeks you can't say that about almost anyone else below him.As far as the fullback thing goes, I haven't looked at who/if is there for fullback, but of someone competent is there it only boosts his value. Fullbacks are way undervalued in the NFL today IMO. If you have a reliable one it really helps your inside and outside running and helps with receiving RBs as they don't have to pass protect as often if the fullback is on the field.i came in here hoping to read something about SJAX and thats not what I found.
unckeyherb
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I traded for SJax 2 years ago and he was part of my .5 PPR FF Championship team last year. Due to our franchise rules I cannot keep him but in some mocks that I have done, I believe he will be there for me to take at 1.12/2.01 turn. I am extremely hopeful that he drops to me-the guy just produces double digit ppr FF points week in and week out. He's been in the top 12 RB's in my league the last 3 years and top 15 before that. Every year-he's the model of consistency. If he could ever string together a decent run of TD's he'd be a top five back, regardless of the assiness of his team. The addition of a fullback and HC with a run first, ball control mentality should help to enhance that aspect of his game.
I look at him like this-he won't win the league for you like an Arian Foster or Lesean McCoy last year.
He won't single-handedly double your opponent's RB totals like ADP or LT before him. What he will do is provide a known entity with consistent double digit point production. He is the quintessential plug-and-play, set-it-and-forget it RB. In the last 3 years of playing he's only had 10 games of single digit point production. Removing doubt from your lineup, to me, is huge. I want zero question marks with my early picks and gamble on high risk/reward players later.
Another SJAX standard top 12 year: 1,600 Total Yards, 50 Receptions (.5 PPR), 8-10 TDs..233-245 FFP/RB8ish
I look at him like this-he won't win the league for you like an Arian Foster or Lesean McCoy last year.
He won't single-handedly double your opponent's RB totals like ADP or LT before him. What he will do is provide a known entity with consistent double digit point production. He is the quintessential plug-and-play, set-it-and-forget it RB. In the last 3 years of playing he's only had 10 games of single digit point production. Removing doubt from your lineup, to me, is huge. I want zero question marks with my early picks and gamble on high risk/reward players later.
Another SJAX standard top 12 year: 1,600 Total Yards, 50 Receptions (.5 PPR), 8-10 TDs..233-245 FFP/RB8ish
LarryAllen'sJockstrap
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Actually, in the last five season, Jackson has not scored more than 8TDs once.Over that span, his averages have been 1500 total yards, 43 receptions and 6TDs. That's 186 point non-PPR and 230 PPR. He has averaged about RB11-13, not RB8.I do like Jackson; TDs are flukier and I'll take a guy that I'm guaranteed to get 1500/43 out of any day and hope this is the year he breaks out for a few extra scores.
Warrior
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In other news, Quarterbacks throw the ball.Happy to help.
bengalbuck
Footballguy
Not real sure what to think of SJax this year. I like him at his price and think he'll be at least a safe and solid RB2 as Fisher will run the ball a bunch.
However, reports seem to indicate that the Rams OL is pretty awful again, especially the OTs. Because of that, I don't think he has a whole ton of upside. Also plays in a division that is getting pretty stout on Defense. Obviously SF on top, but both Seattle and Arizona are pretty good as well. No more feasting on terrible NFC West defenses.
However, reports seem to indicate that the Rams OL is pretty awful again, especially the OTs. Because of that, I don't think he has a whole ton of upside. Also plays in a division that is getting pretty stout on Defense. Obviously SF on top, but both Seattle and Arizona are pretty good as well. No more feasting on terrible NFC West defenses.
