Steven Jackson Owners (1 Viewer)

[Mofongo]

How important is it for Steven Jackson owners to pick up Stephen Davis?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Can't hurt, but I wouldn't sweat it if you don't have the roster space.

 

[cybergourmet]

Nope.

 

[duaneok66]

not a chance . . .

 

[jurb26]

Funny that people are not hitting the panic botton here, but will with Portis/Duckett.

 

[Gandalf]

I would if if he wasn't already on another team. My odd man out would probably be Cedric Wilson, giving me 9 RBs heading into the season.

 

[cybergourmet]

I'm not worrying about Davis doing anything more than occasional goalline work. OCCASIONAL. I would drop him maybe below Rudi but not below Ronnie...

 

[Draftnik]

One league I play in goes 320 roster spots deep (16 X 20) with no IDP, and doesn't utilize a waiver wire. On the off chance that Jackson falls to me in that league, I'd definitely make room for Davis.

 

[duaneok66]

Funny that people are not hitting the panic botton here, but will with Portis/Duckett.

the situation is slightly different; Jackson is (basically) healthy, you can't assume the same for Portis . . . and SDavis is much older than TJ Duckett . . .

 

[jurb26]

Funny that people are not hitting the panic botton here, but will with Portis/Duckett.

the situation is slightly different; Jackson is (basically) healthy, you can't assume the same for Portis . . . and SDavis is much older than TJ Duckett . . .

Old or not, the guy scored 12 TDs last year. Portis is going to be fine. How many times do doctors need to say this....

 

[David Yudkin]

The problem is that Davis is not a handcuff to Jackson IMO. They are seperate and distinct. Davis would get some goal line TDs and Jackson would compile the yards. If Jackson went down, I doubt Davis would take over Jackson's role. So if you owned Jackson and he got hurt, you're not getting his backup. Davis just eats into Jackson's production (or his replacement's production).

 

[Big Score]

No

 

[Forgiven]

Funny that people are not hitting the panic botton here, but will with Portis/Duckett.

the situation is slightly different; Jackson is (basically) healthy, you can't assume the same for Portis . . . and SDavis is much older than TJ Duckett . . .

Also the Rams didn't give up a draft pick to get Davis. Plus, Washington already had a pretty good backup with Betts where as the Rams don't seem too high on anyone after Jackson. I'm not saying that Portis is in huge trouble or that Davis won't vulture the occassional goal line carry but the situations are different. If St. Louis had made the same trade that Washington did to get Duckett I think there would've been plenty of panic.

 

[Gopher State]

If you like goal line TD's you need to grab Davis, I can see him getting 7-10 td's at the expense of Jackson

 

[avoiding injuries]

If you like goal line TD's you need to grab Davis, I can see him getting 7-10 td's at the expense of Jackson

At the expense of Jackson? That may put SJax into negative TD's.

 

[seahawk 17]

I have Jackson in 3 leagues and could care less about Davis.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

I have Jackson in 3 leagues and could care less about Davis.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

If you like goal line TD's you need to grab Davis, I can see him getting 7-10 td's at the expense of Jackson

I'm cause it's true and seems Jackson owners are in serious denial.

 

[Mordraken]

I'm a Jackson owner, and have no interest in Davis unless Jackson gets hurt. Why? I have 3 RBs that will definetly get more points (barring injury to Jackson) than Steven Davis even if he scores 10 TDs, and I have another 2 that will probably score more than Davis, and I have another one that might score as many fantasy points. IMHO the only reason to carry a handcuff is if there is an injury concern to your stud player. Even if Jackson goes down with injury (/knocks on wood) Davis would get what... 700 yards and 7 TDs in that offense?

Here's a question - is Stephen Davis any more valuable than LenDale White? Or Brandon Jacobs? Or Ron Dayne? Perhaps a little more valuable than any of them, but there are 40-50 RBs that I would rather have on my roster.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

The problem is that Davis is not a handcuff to Jackson IMO. They are seperate and distinct. Davis would get some goal line TDs and Jackson would compile the yards. If Jackson went down, I doubt Davis would take over Jackson's role. So if you owned Jackson and he got hurt, you're not getting his backup. Davis just eats into Jackson's production (or his replacement's production).

Tony Fisher is the closest thing to a handcuff and ask the Packers fans whether he's worth the pickup.

 

[Depth Charge]

If you have the roster space, YES and hold your breath if SJAX goes down.

 

[Provy Wit]

Funny that people are not hitting the panic botton here, but will with Portis/Duckett.

And why should they?? St Louis wanted to bring another runner into the mix. Clinton Portis seperated his sholder and will only be aggrevating it during the season. When the Philadelphia Eagles pass on S Davis given thier very shaky RB sitautation I wouldnt fret it to much. As a SJax owner I'm ready to roll

 

[JohnnyU]

Without reading any of these posts, I will say you only handcuff Davis to Jackson if you are thin at RB. Period. If you have adequate replacements, it's wise to use the roster space to shore up other areas on your team.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Rams | M. Williams released from teamSat, 2 Sep 2006 10:12:49 -0700Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports St. Louis Rams RB Moe Williams has been released from the team.

 

[seahawk 17]

Funny that people are not hitting the panic botton here, but will with Portis/Duckett.

And why should they?? St Louis wanted to bring another runner into the mix. Clinton Portis seperated his sholder and will only be aggrevating it during the season. When the Philadelphia Eagles pass on S Davis given thier very shaky RB sitautation I wouldnt fret it to much. As a SJax owner I'm ready to roll

 

[joffer]

If you like goal line TD's you need to grab Davis, I can see him getting 7-10 td's at the expense of Jackson

change Davis to Williams, and i saw this exact same post from you two weeks ago.

 

[jurb26]

Funny that people are not hitting the panic botton here, but will with Portis/Duckett.

And why should they?? St Louis wanted to bring another runner into the mix. Clinton Portis seperated his sholder and will only be aggrevating it during the season. When the Philadelphia Eagles pass on S Davis given thier very shaky RB sitautation I wouldnt fret it to much. As a SJax owner I'm ready to roll

Maybe because Davis is the definition of a GL vulture. 12 TDs last year in 13 games and battling injuries. All 12 of those TDs came from 15 yds or less, 11 of which were 10 yds or less and 10 were 5 yds or less. He also ranked 10th in the NFL last year at converting GL attempts on the 1st try from 3 yds in at just over 56%. He was 5th in the NFL at rushign for scores from inside the 10. Davis converted 67% of his 3rd and shorts (9th in the NFL).

 

[zanti8]

no

his knee will last 20-30 plays

 

[J R]

I agree with David Yudkin's summary - Davis isn't a true handcuff because he wouldn't just take over the RB1. However - people are talking about Davis eating into Jackson's GL carries right now. I'd assume he takes ALL of those GL carries if Jackson gets hurt.

Here's a Link to a Linehan Q and A with a lot of talk about the Ram RBs.

(On Davis' running style) "He's one of those north and south guys. He had a really good feel for setting up blocks and hitting the hole, but he doesn't make it fancy. He makes one cut and gets down hill. Over time, he's been one of those guys that has stood the test of time because he knows how to get first downs and he moves the chains. That's what you've got to look for. We've got such an exciting guy in Steven Jackson. Here's a guy, you give him the ball, and you know he's got to get the hard yards at times, but Stephen [Davis], he's got that complete game where he can break it outside, he can hit it inside. I think you've got that kind of back, but then if he needs a rest or we're running the ball well and you want to go right at people in short yardage or four minute time of the game, he's going to have a role like that. It might be down to the goal line or red zone. Not to take away Steven's [Jackson] ability to do that, but you do have to have another guy who has done it to be effective. Steven's going to carry the load, Jackson I mean, and then if we need a change of pace or if we need to get the ball going north and south and get those hard four or five yard gains then I think Stephen Davis is the perfect complement to that."

 

[my man otis]

OT a bit, but this sounds really bad for jackson. and i have him in a couple of leagues.

if you've got the space then you probably should to grab him.

 

[Slingblade]

I am hoping for a S.Davis injury week one. Maybe a torn ACL. Retire you old smuck.

 

[jcgoldie]

As a Rams fan who has neither of these guys on my fantasy team, I have no bias here, but do follow the team religiously. I think the Steven Jackson owners are in a bit of denial. Linehan says he brought Davis in to improve the depth at the position. Davis is now the number 2 option and Fisher gets pushed to 3rd down duties. In my opinion, the primary reason the Rams did this is because of Jackson's injury history. He has been injured each year and already in the preseason... nothing serious, but I think it is a good bet he'll miss some games at some point this year, altough I hope not. In that case, then Davis will be expected to carry the load as the primary back. That's why they signed him to an $840,000 contract. For these reasons, if I had Jackson, I'd definately try to handcuff Davis very late in the draft.

 

[packersfan]

As a Rams fan who has neither of these guys on my fantasy team, I have no bias here, but do follow the team religiously. I think the Steven Jackson owners are in a bit of denial. Linehan says he brought Davis in to improve the depth at the position. Davis is now the number 2 option and Fisher gets pushed to 3rd down duties. In my opinion, the primary reason the Rams did this is because of Jackson's injury history. He has been injured each year and already in the preseason... nothing serious, but I think it is a good bet he'll miss some games at some point this year, altough I hope not. In that case, then Davis will be expected to carry the load as the primary back. That's why they signed him to an $840,000 contract. For these reasons, if I had Jackson, I'd definately try to handcuff Davis very late in the draft.

I disagree with the belief that Davis will not become the starter if Jackson were to get hurt and miss time. If Davis is healthy -- a HUGE if obviously -- there's little question in my opinion he would start ahead of Fisher. Tony Fisher is NOT a starting NFL RB. Trust me on this. He's a good third-down RB (he's terrific at picking up blitzes) but he isn't a starting-caliber RB. If that's the direction the Rams decide to go to replace an injured Jackson they will quickly regret it.

 

[Gandalf]

As a Rams fan who has neither of these guys on my fantasy team, I have no bias here, but do follow the team religiously. I think the Steven Jackson owners are in a bit of denial. Linehan says he brought Davis in to improve the depth at the position. Davis is now the number 2 option and Fisher gets pushed to 3rd down duties. In my opinion, the primary reason the Rams did this is because of Jackson's injury history. He has been injured each year and already in the preseason... nothing serious, but I think it is a good bet he'll miss some games at some point this year, altough I hope not. In that case, then Davis will be expected to carry the load as the primary back. That's why they signed him to an $840,000 contract. For these reasons, if I had Jackson, I'd definately try to handcuff Davis very late in the draft.

Thanks for the insight. I'm not one of those owners in denial because Davis is already on another team. Because of SJax's injury history I'd have to agree that whoever is #2 in St. Louis has value. However, I'm even more concerned about what this means to SJax carries around the goal-line. I can easily see Davis vulturing 3-5 TDs this year and that's not ideal from my standpoint.