Steven Jackson to ATL (1 Viewer)

[unckeyherb]

My expectations have been tempered based on the longer than expected injury, the loss of white and Julio and the general lack of potency on offense that most were expecting. That being said, I have space on my roster to hold onto him. He has some tough match ups coming up, but there is a dearth of options at the RB position this year. He is still going to get a lot of work on the ground and in the passing game and is the option at the goal line.

If you listen to pantherguy you should drop him, euthanize him and piss on his ashes. I question the brilliance behind this mode of thinking, but there are pages of back and forth between us. If you have the space and are not forced to start him, why wouldn't you take a wait and see approach? Maybe he continues to look slow. Maybe he gets back to form, looks like he did at the end of last year and starts scoring consistent Tds. His upside is worth a roster spot. Unless you think it's better served to hang onto the Peads, Blounts and Balls of the league. Have fun with that if so.

 

[ragnarok628]

agree. i'm in the position where i pretty much have to rely upon him. He disappointed last week, but what am i going to do? drop him for Ogbonnaya? no thanks i'll keep taking my chances.

 

[nobiz]

agree. i'm in the position where i pretty much have to rely upon him. He disappointed last week, but what am i going to do? drop him for Ogbonnaya? no thanks i'll keep taking my chances.

Starks > SJax right now IMO.

 

[Sabertooth]

I'd rather have Vereen

 

[Bob Barker]

he has no trade value, but i doubt you can get a RB on the waiver who's any better. I probably wouldnt outright drop him,just let him ride the pine for awhile till he shows something, he could end up being alright late in the year

 

[Resident A]

I just traded for SJax (part of a package deal) last week, figuring he'd be a RB2 upon his return. That game was discouraging.

I'm really just hoping I have a RB2 down the stretch, but who knows if that'll happen.

 

[Koya]

I'd rather have Vereen

he has no trade value, but i doubt you can get a RB on the waiver who's any better. I probably wouldnt outright drop him,just let him ride the pine for awhile till he shows something, he could end up being alright late in the year

Bingo. Most would prefer Vereen. Or a lot of guys that aren't available in most leagues.

 

[buddhacwru]

Would you guys drop him for Andre Brown?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Oh man, please don't let him play. I can see where this will go already.

where?

I would guess hurt again

To where you don't know if you should start SJax or Quizz. If you start SJax he reaggravates his hammy in the 1st quarter. If you start Quizz then Jackson stays healthy.

you would have to be absolutely insane or incredibly desperate to start SJackson his first week back all things considered.

Because Rodgers and Smelling have done such a good job in his absence? The coaching staff knows that they need to run the ball and he is the only guy on the team that can do it. If he's playing you have to assume he is healthy. He should still get 100 yfs and is a good bet to score a TD.

RoS?

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Steven Jackson rushed 13 times for 57 yards in Atlanta's Week 9 loss to the Panthers, adding three catches for 19 yards.
Jackson looked much better than he did in Week 8, but was still noticeably lacking any real semblance of burst. Most of his yardage came as the result of good blocking, or his still prodigious power. It was a Michael Turner-ian performance, albeit one without a score. That being said, it was still one of the Falcons' better rushing performances of the season, while Jackson appears aware of his limitations. He saw the hole, and hit it hard. He'll likely be a trustworthy RB3 going forward, but has a rough Week 10 matchup in the Seahawks.

 

[pantherclub]

A little better. Still looks horrible though running.

 

[shadyridr]

Good buy low after this week IMO. Schedule FINALLY lightens up. Dont get me wrong, I dont think he will be a world beater but he gets a lot of the snaps, goal line touches, and catches out of the backfield. Should be a solid RB2 you can get for RB3 or cheaper prices.

 

[shadyridr]

Heres the schedule:

10 Sun, Nov 10 Seattle- got torched on the ground two weeks in a row

11 Sun, Nov 17 at Tampa Bay- team has given up and they are brutal on defense now

12 Thu, Nov 21 New Orleans- just got abused by the jets on the ground

13 Sun, Dec 1 at Buffalo- they are actually tough especially at home

14 Sun, Dec 8 at Green Bay- nothing to worry about

15 Sun, Dec 15 Washington- joke of a defense

16 Mon, Dec 23 at San Francisco- toughest game, probably a bench

 

[Routilla]

Dropped him for Stacy 3-4 weeks ago. Confident I made the right call.

 

[iamkoza]

just traded douglas to get s jax. i was watching redzone yesterday so i only saw a few carries but he does look sluggish... almost like a long haired 2012 michael turner... he got 3 straight cracks at it inside the 5... he scored on the 3rd but it was taken away on what i thought was a very questionable holding call. i'm hoping he can at least score 10 a game in a 0.5ppr format

 

[pantherclub]

Lololololololololol

Steven Jackson. Lolololololololol

Why is he on anyone's roster at this point? What more do you guys want? He is done. Capital D done.

 

[mad sweeney]

Rotoworld:

Steven Jackson rushed nine times for 11 yards and caught three passes for nine yards in Sunday's Week 10 loss to the Seahawks.

Running stiff and slow with no lateral ability, Jackson just slammed into the Seahawks front repeatedly. It was almost hard to watch. In three games since returning from his hamstring pull, Jackson has rushed 33 times for 74 yards (2.24 YPC) with no touchdowns. The schedule finally softens up as he'll get the Bucs next week, but we wouldn't trust this S-Jax with this offensive line as anything more than a flex.

Jackson is nothing if not consistent vs Seattle. For as good as he's been in the past and as many times as he's played against Seattle, he has yet to gain 100 yards on the ground against them.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

He seems to be getting buried less than Turner was. Maybe it's because he gets his 3 catches/game too that he doesn't do anything with, that Turner didn't.. Anyone think he makes it another year in ATL??

 

[iamkoza]

He seems to be getting buried less than Turner was. Maybe it's because he gets his 3 catches/game too that he doesn't do anything with, that Turner didn't.. Anyone think he makes it another year in ATL??

i guess it depends if they think they can rebuild quickly and be competitive next year.... I dont see anyway they dont draft a RB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds and hope they hit a homerun ala benard or lacy (maybe even could be grouped in there bell)

 

[Rick James]

He seems to be getting buried less than Turner was. Maybe it's because he gets his 3 catches/game too that he doesn't do anything with, that Turner didn't.. Anyone think he makes it another year in ATL??

i guess it depends if they think they can rebuild quickly and be competitive next year.... I dont see anyway they dont draft a RB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds and hope they hit a homerun ala benard or lacy (maybe even could be grouped in there bell)

I can tell you, Falcon fans will go crazy if they select a RB that early. Both lines are terrible. Jackson would look better running behind a good OL.

 

[pantherclub]

He seems to be getting buried less than Turner was. Maybe it's because he gets his 3 catches/game too that he doesn't do anything with, that Turner didn't.. Anyone think he makes it another year in ATL??

i guess it depends if they think they can rebuild quickly and be competitive next year.... I dont see anyway they dont draft a RB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds and hope they hit a homerun ala benard or lacy (maybe even could be grouped in there bell)

I can tell you, Falcon fans will go crazy if they select a RB that early. Both lines are terrible. Jackson would look better running behind a good OL.

I am not sure what team you are watching but Jackson looks really slow, prodding and lacks any burst or power.

 

[Rick James]

He seems to be getting buried less than Turner was. Maybe it's because he gets his 3 catches/game too that he doesn't do anything with, that Turner didn't.. Anyone think he makes it another year in ATL??

i guess it depends if they think they can rebuild quickly and be competitive next year.... I dont see anyway they dont draft a RB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds and hope they hit a homerun ala benard or lacy (maybe even could be grouped in there bell)

I can tell you, Falcon fans will go crazy if they select a RB that early. Both lines are terrible. Jackson would look better running behind a good OL.

I am not sure what team you are watching but Jackson looks really slow, prodding and lacks any burst or power.

I don't care one way or the other about Jackson. I'm saying an improved OL would help our running game much more.

 

[Ace zero1]

A 2nd round pick well spent haha

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

OC Dirk Koetter said he wants to increase Steven Jackson's workload going forward, not decrease it.

The plodding, 30-year-old Jackson has been outplayed by Jacquizz Rodgers and Jason Snelling. That's led to suggestions that the Falcons should turn their backfield into a full-blown committee, but Koetter doesn't see it that way. "My opinion is Steven Jackson is a workhorse running back and we haven't been able to work him," he said. "I mean, I think Steven is one of those guys that gets better the more he touches it." Koetter went on to say that carries for Rodgers and Snelling will come in when S-Jax taps out. It's an extremely low-upside situation for fantasy owners heading into Sunday's game against the Bucs' No. 5 run defense.

Related: Jason Snelling, Jacquizz Rodgers

Source: ESPN.com

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Steven Jackson (toe) was upgraded to "full" in Thursday's practice.

S-Jax will be ready to roll against the Bucs, but can't be trusted as more than a FLEX option. Jackson is averaging just 3.21 yards through his first 47 carries.


Source: atlantafalcons.com

 

[unckeyherb]

20+ points on my bench this week and a decent showing last week. Is this guy getting to be a must start?

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Coach Mike Smith hinted at the Combine that he expects the Falcons to retain Steven Jackson for 2014.

Smith essentially gave S-Jax a pass for his 2013 hamstring tear, saying the Falcons "didn't get a chance to really see what Steven Jackson was capable of doing until the end of the season," and insisting an improved rushing attack "starts with a winning line." Jackson is not due a prohibitive offseason roster bonus, so the Falcons could conceivably roster him as long as they please and cut him after the draft or even right before Week 1. Doing so would only save $1.83 million in cap room, however. We tentatively expect S-Jax to return as the Falcons' 2014 starter.


Source: Vaughn McClure on Twitter

 

[pantherclub]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

[Tool]

He's old.

 

[Faust]

Smith still sees value in RB Jackson

By Vaughn McClure | ESPN.com

The market for free-agent running backs hasn't been so great this offseason, although it seems like Maurice Jones-Drew is on the verge of a multiyear deal with the Oakland Raiders.

As for the Atlanta Falcons, they made their big pickup last offseason by signing Steven Jackson to a three-year, $12 million deal. Jackson had eight-consecutive 1,000-yard rushing seasons with the St. Louis Rams before joining the Falcons. He averaged a career-low 3.5 yards per carry in his first season with Atlanta as a hamstring injury limited him to 12 games and poor offensive line play hampered his effectiveness.

But Falcons head coach Mike Smith expressed faith in Jackson moving forward, although Jackson turns 31 before the 2014 season. Smith was asked at this week's NFL owners meetings about the thought process of picking up a running back with a lot of mileage.

"We felt like you've got to be able to run the football and run the football when everybody knows you're going to do that," Smith explained. "When you're in that situation, you've got to have a big back. And we felt like Steven was the type of running back that we were looking for.

"Unfortunately, Steven was injured last year and we didn't really get a chance to see what he was capable of doing until the last four or five games. But you've got to have a big back when you have to get the two or three yards. Especially late in the season, you've got to be able to run the football."

Jackson injured his hamstring in a Week 2 win over his former team, the Rams. He missed four games and couldn't get into a rhythm immediately. He finished the 2013 season with six touchdowns in the last six games.

Although Smith values what Jackson is capable of bringing, he understand the value of running backs is starting to fade around the league.

"The running back position is going through a transition in terms of its value," Smith said. "It's more of a position where you want to have two or three running backs running the ball. It's probably the most punishing position on the field. You look at it as a position that you want to have a first-down runner, a change of pace runner, there's different body types and there's different skill sets. You've got to have a running back that can pass protect. … he's very involved in pass protection. Very rarely do you see a true four-down alignment. He's got to be able to identify the defensive formation, who the line's going to take and who he's going to take.

"Defensive coordinators do such a great job of changing up who's rushing. He's got to be the guy that blocks the fifth or sixth rusher. Never really have an idea who it's going to be. I think it's gone to more of a committee position. I think a lot of it has to do with the wear and tear that a running back takes. There are very few guys that can feel comfortable getting through the season in the NFL and feed him the ball 30 times a game."

The Falcons have a committee in Jackson, Jacquizz Rodgers, and Antone Smith, although they lost Jason Snelling to retirement. Expect them to add another back via the draft.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Prime spot for a rookie to land is ATL

 

[KellysHeroes]

Prime spot for a rookie to land is ATL

yeap

 

[pantherclub]

Prime spot for a rookie to land is ATL

maybe but unless I missed something there oline is still in shambles

 

[lod01]

Prime spot for a rookie to land is ATL

maybe but unless I missed something there oline is still in shambles

Unless they have lost their minds, they should take an LT in the 1st round. They will have a shot at the #2 LT at a minimum. Then keep working on it for 2015 when Jackson is gone. The hell with the defense. They better make protecting their franchise QB, priority #1.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Prime spot for a rookie to land is ATL

maybe but unless I missed something there oline is still in shambles

the draft isnt over yet. plus they had tons of ijures across the oline last year.

 

[cstu]

Prime spot for a rookie to land is ATL

maybe but unless I missed something there oline is still in shambles

Unless they have lost their minds, they should take an LT in the 1st round. They will have a shot at the #2 LT at a minimum. Then keep working on it for 2015 when Jackson is gone. The hell with the defense. They better make protecting their franchise QB, priority #1.

I've read a lot about them trading up for Clowney but despite being a huge Clowney fan I don't see it. Too many holes for the Falcons to give up picks in a deep draft when they can get an impact player at #6.

 

[cstu]

Rotoworld:

Coach Mike Smith hinted at the Combine that he expects the Falcons to retain Steven Jackson for 2014.

Smith essentially gave S-Jax a pass for his 2013 hamstring tear, saying the Falcons "didn't get a chance to really see what Steven Jackson was capable of doing until the end of the season," and insisting an improved rushing attack "starts with a winning line." Jackson is not due a prohibitive offseason roster bonus, so the Falcons could conceivably roster him as long as they please and cut him after the draft or even right before Week 1. Doing so would only save $1.83 million in cap room, however. We tentatively expect S-Jax to return as the Falcons' 2014 starter.


Source: Vaughn McClure on Twitter

Hate to see one of my favorite players go out this way, but I think the Falcons cut him after the draft to save the $3M salary.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Call me stupid or crazy, but I happen to think SJax is going to be very nice value this year. I think far too many are not giving Sjax a pass on being hurt in week 1 last year and Atl in general having injuries all over the place. I happen to think that he is going to surpirse a lot of people this year. I don't think he has totally fallen off that cliff just yet.

 

[pantherclub]

Call me stupid or crazy, but I happen to think SJax is going to be very nice value this year. I think far too many are not giving Sjax a pass on being hurt in week 1 last year and Atl in general having injuries all over the place. I happen to think that he is going to surpirse a lot of people this year. I don't think he has totally fallen off that cliff just yet.

wow

He got a year older not younger

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Call me stupid or crazy, but I happen to think SJax is going to be very nice value this year. I think far too many are not giving Sjax a pass on being hurt in week 1 last year and Atl in general having injuries all over the place. I happen to think that he is going to surpirse a lot of people this year. I don't think he has totally fallen off that cliff just yet.

wow

He got a year older not younger

Yes I get that, but he was hurt the first play of week 2 and did not play until 6 weeks later. RB's at every age get hurt and SJax did not look as bad as people are claiming. Atl as a whole last year were a mess and injuries and line play was awful. Sjax is not going to morph into his 24 year old self, but I think he will actually be a serviceable RB 2 all year. You can draft him as a RB 4 and cut bait if he struggles, but I happen to think he will get enough touches and Td's to surprise people.

 

[eNdblu]

Call me stupid or crazy, but I happen to think SJax is going to be very nice value this year. I think far too many are not giving Sjax a pass on being hurt in week 1 last year and Atl in general having injuries all over the place. I happen to think that he is going to surpirse a lot of people this year. I don't think he has totally fallen off that cliff just yet.

wow

He got a year older not younger

Yes I get that, but he was hurt the first play of week 2 and did not play until 6 weeks later. RB's at every age get hurt and SJax did not look as bad as people are claiming. Atl as a whole last year were a mess and injuries and line play was awful. Sjax is not going to morph into his 24 year old self, but I think he will actually be a serviceable RB 2 all year. You can draft him as a RB 4 and cut bait if he struggles, but I happen to think he will get enough touches and Td's to surprise people.

This year in redraft leagues, if I don't have a chance at drafting McCoy, AP, Charles, and maybe Forte/Lacy in the first round, i'd definitely consider going after guys like AJG, Mega, JG, DT, Gordon, etc and loading up on the WR studs (and Jimmy) over taking chances on the 2nd year RBs in Ball, Bell, Ellington, Stacy, etc and then go RB heavy in rounds 4/5 and up and drafting all the underrated/left for dead guys in SJax, MJD, Gerhart, Ridley, etc and playing the matchups. I agree that there's value in the RB3/4 range w/ RB2 upside. I think there's a lot to lose this year if you miss on those early RBs instead of drafting the stud WRs.

 

[Sabertooth]

The Packers line couldn't run block either until Eddie Lacy showed up. Then boom.

 

[MattFancy]

Call me stupid or crazy, but I happen to think SJax is going to be very nice value this year. I think far too many are not giving Sjax a pass on being hurt in week 1 last year and Atl in general having injuries all over the place. I happen to think that he is going to surpirse a lot of people this year. I don't think he has totally fallen off that cliff just yet.

wow

He got a year older not younger

Yes I get that, but he was hurt the first play of week 2 and did not play until 6 weeks later. RB's at every age get hurt and SJax did not look as bad as people are claiming. Atl as a whole last year were a mess and injuries and line play was awful. Sjax is not going to morph into his 24 year old self, but I think he will actually be a serviceable RB 2 all year. You can draft him as a RB 4 and cut bait if he struggles, but I happen to think he will get enough touches and Td's to surprise people.

I agree too. The Falcons offense was a mess last season once Julio went down. SJax getting hurt early didn't help either. By the time he came back Julio was out, Roddy was still hobbled and they were in free fall as a team. I think with a healthier team around him this year, he could be a fine RB2/Flex play most weeks.

 

[Biabreakable]

This was a bad call on my part last season believing that Jackson had another year left in him at 30 before the decline. But he got injured and the Falcons offensive line was even worse than I expected.

It was a calculated risk drafting Jackson at 30 years old hoping the wheels did not come off yet. The risk is that much greater now that he will be 31 July 22. So it would have to be a much later pick than last season to consider taking that chance on him.

If they draft a good RB (I think their needs for offensive linemen and defense is MUCH higher priority) that would be a further sign that the Falcons will be moving on.

 

[ghostguy123]

This was a bad call on my part last season believing that Jackson had another year left in him at 30 before the decline. But he got injured and the Falcons offensive line was even worse than I expected.

It was a calculated risk drafting Jackson at 30 years old hoping the wheels did not come off yet. The risk is that much greater now that he will be 31 July 22. So it would have to be a much later pick than last season to consider taking that chance on him.

If they draft a good RB (I think their needs for offensive linemen and defense is MUCH higher priority) that would be a further sign that the Falcons will be moving on.

Jackson scored decent points when he actually played last year, and could very easily do the same this year.

And you would think if Julio and Roddy are actually healthy it would help his cause. Those two guys out was a huge. Roddy's injury basically made him irrelevant, dude was hobbling in the middle of routes when planting his foot.

Biggest and obviously a huge factor.....injury.

I think he is a decent buy from the owners who dont care for him, but chances are if someone owns him right now they think he can still do well, so, probably wont see too many Sjax deals, even after the NFL draft.

 

[Faust]

Mike Clay ‏@MikeClayNFL

Steven Jackson's extrapolated-over-16-games touchdown total was 9.3 last season. ATL offense will rebound/run more. Post-hype Top 15 RB?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

value in TD leagues only Im thinking, his big ### might flop in the endzone a few times

 

[ebsteelers]

maybe if he stays healthy. how likely is that at this point though?

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Steven Jackson reportedly "looks rejuvenated" early in camp.

Jackson slogged his way through advancing age last season, averaging a pathetic 3.45 YPC. He insists the misery was due to nagging injuries and the Falcons seem to believe him. "We saw in the last couple of games the kind of running back Steven is before he got injured," coach Mike Smith said. "I like the other guys as well, and we're going to have multiplicity with our packages. But I'm very confident Steven Jackson is still an elite running back in the NFL." If the 31-year-old S-Jax can't rev it up this time, the Falcons shouldn't hesitate to give rookie Devonta Freeman a shot.

Related: Devonta Freeman

Source: ESPN.com

Jul 28 - 11:32 AM

 

[Shutout]

The first thing I think of when I read off-season stuff like this is "Well, what else would you expect any player to say?"

If you don't feel better now than you did after an entire football season, you're in trouble.

But saying that doesn't mean it's true.

Every year around this time we hear of older players that think they still got it and don't.

I remember a few years back listening to Fast Willie Parker on Sirius state to the guys on the radio show how he was this and that, as fast as ever, felt like he was as good as he had been in a certain period, expected to challenge for a starting job, and on and on. Didn't make the team.

I fully expect that SJAX's past body of work, along with the likelihood that the Falcons will want to be courteous to the veteran and, at a minimum, will want to have a vet presence since the rookie is an unknown, will lock him into lots of good press and a place for this team.

But the Falcons really owe it to their team to call a duck a duck if this is one because SJAX looked like a dog out there last year. He truly was NO better than what Michael Turner could have given them. They need to make the call to make a change if it is warranted.