Steven Jackson to ATL (1 Viewer)

[mrbigg]

Someone dropped Ingram. I'm going to drop jackson and pick him up

why do people do this?

I have no more faith in Jackson. Even against that ridiculous bad Tb's D and Roddy's White touches getting distributed among the offense, he still put up nothing. If it wasn't for that touchdown, he'd have a below average game. A sleeper like Crowell is more valuable then him at this point.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

You people need to open your eyes. The Falcons are a passing team with a bad defense. You say the first 3 games were a perfect storm? Every game is gonna be like that. If he cant get more than 14 carries in a game the team led 35-0 at halftime, he NEVER will. He used to be a great receiver but hes not the passing down back anymore. Do you people realize he comes out on 3rd down EVERY time. He splits carries with THREE other RBs.

and he runs like he has concrete shoes

I don't know how anyone watching the game last night thinks Sjax looked like he was running with concrete shoes on. He looked big and strong and powerful because guess what...... that is his game. I don't know what some of you are looking for? He is 6'2, 245 lbs and not a speed back. There is nothing wrong with his game and what he brings to Atl.

I think in fantasy football people form a bias of a player and look for things. Sjax is never going to morph into his young self where he is a work horse guy, but he is still going to have some playable games.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

You people need to open your eyes. The Falcons are a passing team with a bad defense. You say the first 3 games were a perfect storm? Every game is gonna be like that. If he cant get more than 14 carries in a game the team led 35-0 at halftime, he NEVER will. He used to be a great receiver but hes not the passing down back anymore. Do you people realize he comes out on 3rd down EVERY time. He splits carries with THREE other RBs.

and he runs like he has concrete shoes

I don't know how anyone watching the game last night thinks Sjax looked like he was running with concrete shoes on. He looked big and strong and powerful because guess what...... that is his game. I don't know what some of you are looking for? He is 6'2, 245 lbs and not a speed back. There is nothing wrong with his game and what he brings to Atl.

I think in fantasy football people form a bias of a player and look for things. Sjax is never going to morph into his young self where he is a work horse guy, but he is still going to have some playable games.

And with that passing offense they will have plenty of 1st & goals from inside the 5, making him at the very least a TD guy.

 

[cvnpoka]

You people need to open your eyes. The Falcons are a passing team with a bad defense. You say the first 3 games were a perfect storm? Every game is gonna be like that. If he cant get more than 14 carries in a game the team led 35-0 at halftime, he NEVER will. He used to be a great receiver but hes not the passing down back anymore. Do you people realize he comes out on 3rd down EVERY time. He splits carries with THREE other RBs.

and he runs like he has concrete shoes

I don't know how anyone watching the game last night thinks Sjax looked like he was running with concrete shoes on. He looked big and strong and powerful because guess what...... that is his game. I don't know what some of you are looking for? He is 6'2, 245 lbs and not a speed back. There is nothing wrong with his game and what he brings to Atl.

I think in fantasy football people form a bias of a player and look for things. Sjax is never going to morph into his young self where he is a work horse guy, but he is still going to have some playable games.

i expect nfl rbs to have the ability to make make quick cuts and explosive moves. sjax used to do that. he used to have great feet and the ability to explode through holes. now he cant. my estimation is not an uncommon view as a few others in this thread have expressed the same sentiment.

 

[cvnpoka]

You people need to open your eyes. The Falcons are a passing team with a bad defense. You say the first 3 games were a perfect storm? Every game is gonna be like that. If he cant get more than 14 carries in a game the team led 35-0 at halftime, he NEVER will. He used to be a great receiver but hes not the passing down back anymore. Do you people realize he comes out on 3rd down EVERY time. He splits carries with THREE other RBs.

and he runs like he has concrete shoes

Let me guess, you think Jackson is going to be cut just like martin huh?

let me guess, reading comprehension is hard?

 

[lod01]

You people need to open your eyes. The Falcons are a passing team with a bad defense. You say the first 3 games were a perfect storm? Every game is gonna be like that. If he cant get more than 14 carries in a game the team led 35-0 at halftime, he NEVER will. He used to be a great receiver but hes not the passing down back anymore. Do you people realize he comes out on 3rd down EVERY time. He splits carries with THREE other RBs.

and he runs like he has concrete shoes

I don't know how anyone watching the game last night thinks Sjax looked like he was running with concrete shoes on. He looked big and strong and powerful because guess what...... that is his game. I don't know what some of you are looking for? He is 6'2, 245 lbs and not a speed back. There is nothing wrong with his game and what he brings to Atl.

I think in fantasy football people form a bias of a player and look for things. Sjax is never going to morph into his young self where he is a work horse guy, but he is still going to have some playable games.

If he can get the short runs for 1st down & keep a drive alive, then come out near the GL, I'm good with it. He did great last night not getting in the way of Matt Ryan putting up nice numbers. We don't have to worry about him taking it 30 yards to the house.

 

[Nero]

You people need to open your eyes. The Falcons are a passing team with a bad defense. You say the first 3 games were a perfect storm? Every game is gonna be like that. If he cant get more than 14 carries in a game the team led 35-0 at halftime, he NEVER will. He used to be a great receiver but hes not the passing down back anymore. Do you people realize he comes out on 3rd down EVERY time. He splits carries with THREE other RBs.

and he runs like he has concrete shoes

I don't know how anyone watching the game last night thinks Sjax looked like he was running with concrete shoes on. He looked big and strong and powerful because guess what...... that is his game. I don't know what some of you are looking for? He is 6'2, 245 lbs and not a speed back. There is nothing wrong with his game and what he brings to Atl.

I think in fantasy football people form a bias of a player and look for things. Sjax is never going to morph into his young self where he is a work horse guy, but he is still going to have some playable games.

Steven Jackson was also quick and fast. Not blazing speed, but swift. The speed and quickness are gone, so he is not the Steven Jackson I was expecting to see. I drafted him on 6 of 8 redraft teams with the mindset that he would be a steal at his adp, as I thought he would be a solid RB2. However, he is unable to keep a bunch of backup caliber RB's off the field. I wouldn't cut him, as I think he still serviceable as a bye week/flex player, but he has fallen way short of my expectations.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

You people need to open your eyes. The Falcons are a passing team with a bad defense. You say the first 3 games were a perfect storm? Every game is gonna be like that. If he cant get more than 14 carries in a game the team led 35-0 at halftime, he NEVER will. He used to be a great receiver but hes not the passing down back anymore. Do you people realize he comes out on 3rd down EVERY time. He splits carries with THREE other RBs.

and he runs like he has concrete shoes

I don't know how anyone watching the game last night thinks Sjax looked like he was running with concrete shoes on. He looked big and strong and powerful because guess what...... that is his game. I don't know what some of you are looking for? He is 6'2, 245 lbs and not a speed back. There is nothing wrong with his game and what he brings to Atl.

I think in fantasy football people form a bias of a player and look for things. Sjax is never going to morph into his young self where he is a work horse guy, but he is still going to have some playable games.

Steven Jackson was also quick and fast. Not blazing speed, but swift. The speed and quickness are gone, so he is not the Steven Jackson I was expecting to see. I drafted him on 6 of 8 redraft teams with the mindset that he would be a steal at his adp, as I thought he would be a solid RB2. However, he is unable to keep a bunch of backup caliber RB's off the field. I wouldn't cut him, as I think he still serviceable as a bye week/flex player, but he has fallen way short of my expectations.

I don't get how he is unable to keep backup caliber rb's off the field?

He is the starting RB and has 37 carries while the other 3 back up rbs combined have 35 rushing attempts. Jackson would have had 20 rushing attempts last night had the game been with in reach.

The speed and quickness are not what they once were, but they are more then adequate enough for Jackson to remain the starting RB and as I am saying have some playable weeks.

It has been outlined by others on here already the games to start the season for the Falcons have been anything but the norm. There is still a lot of season left and Sjax is still the starting RB on a team that will be in the red zone a lot and he is going to lead this team in rushing attempts.

He is no longer the threat to finish as a top 5 fantasy RB, but no one drafted him as such.

 

[humpback]

Here's the bottom line IMO- Atlanta backs have 4 total TDs on the season, Jackson has 1 of them. They have 15 receptions on 22 targets for 166 yards, Jackson has 2 out of 4 for 7 yards. He's asked out of the game several times after a few plays, including at the goal line. None of this has been a 1 week anomaly either, it's been pretty consistent in all 3 games so far.

I find it hard to believe anyone went into the season expecting those things to happen, and while it's possible it could all change starting next week, it doesn't exactly give me the warm and fuzzies going forward.

 

[CowboysHomer]

What was everybody expecting out of him? LaSean McCloy numbers? He is an RB2 in standard scoring leagues, and you likely drafted him in RB4/5 territory.

 

[jurb26]

You people need to open your eyes. The Falcons are a passing team with a bad defense. You say the first 3 games were a perfect storm? Every game is gonna be like that. If he cant get more than 14 carries in a game the team led 35-0 at halftime, he NEVER will. He used to be a great receiver but hes not the passing down back anymore. Do you people realize he comes out on 3rd down EVERY time. He splits carries with THREE other RBs.

and he runs like he has concrete shoes

I don't know how anyone watching the game last night thinks Sjax looked like he was running with concrete shoes on. He looked big and strong and powerful because guess what...... that is his game. I don't know what some of you are looking for? He is 6'2, 245 lbs and not a speed back. There is nothing wrong with his game and what he brings to Atl.I think in fantasy football people form a bias of a player and look for things. Sjax is never going to morph into his young self where he is a work horse guy, but he is still going to have some playable games.

I don't know how anyone could watch and think he wasn't wearing concrete shoes. Maybe that's harsh. Still, he looks slow and to have lost a step or two. There were several runs that should have gone for much bigger gains but he just doesn't have the burst, speed and agility that he did. 2 years ago he would have exploited them though. That doesn't mean he's an ineffective RB. He isn't. He's still very powerful, runs with great vision and is a beast to actually bring down. Let's not kid ourselves though, he looks much slower.

 

[iamkoza]

he's a TD dependent flex play when you have bye week issues

 

[SameSongNDance]

The thing is hes completely td dependant. Hell never get alot of carries and he wont get many receptions. Hes lile jerome bettis

Pretty much all RB's outside the Top 15 are either TD-dependent or reception dependent.

A healthy SJax getting 14-15 carries/game on that offense with most GL carries, throw in 1-3 recpts and you've got extremely good return on investment.

Don't think anyone was drafting him to be their RB1.

Theres no way he gets 14-15 carries A GAME. Thats his UPSIDE. And theres no way he gets 1-3 receptions a game. Maybe 1 a game

Hes a solid bye week fill in or flex vs bad teams. Thats it.

This is correct if nothing changes. I initially bumped this thread recommending him as flex because of what I presumed to be a cake MU, I wouldn't lean on him weekly if I had the choice. I wouldn't however, be afraid to recommend him again if I like the MU or if I see the dynamic change.

Hes been practicing since week 4 of preseason. How long before he should be in game shape? I think he should be in shape by now.

You'd be surprised. I noticed Reggie Wayne still laboring against PHI last week. Gronk also wasn't near game shape vs. MIN. I think it takes longer than you think. I also think ATL has been super smart limiting his snaps/touches. Giving a 30+ RB with his injury history the bulk of the carries after missing most of the preseason is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Dondante]

The thing is hes completely td dependant. Hell never get alot of carries and he wont get many receptions. Hes lile jerome bettis

Pretty much all RB's outside the Top 15 are either TD-dependent or reception dependent.

A healthy SJax getting 14-15 carries/game on that offense with most GL carries, throw in 1-3 recpts and you've got extremely good return on investment.

Don't think anyone was drafting him to be their RB1.

Theres no way he gets 14-15 carries A GAME. Thats his UPSIDE. And theres no way he gets 1-3 receptions a game. Maybe 1 a game

Hes a solid bye week fill in or flex vs bad teams. Thats it.

This is correct if nothing changes. I initially bumped this thread recommending him as flex because of what I presumed to be a cake MU, I wouldn't lean on him weekly if I had the choice. I wouldn't however, be afraid to recommend him again if I like the MU or if I see the dynamic change.

Hes been practicing since week 4 of preseason. How long before he should be in game shape? I think he should be in shape by now.

You'd be surprised. I noticed Reggie Wayne still laboring against PHI last week. Gronk also wasn't near game shape vs. MIN. I think it takes longer than you think. I also think ATL has been super smart limiting his snaps/touches. Giving a 30+ RB with his injury history the bulk of the carries after missing most of the preseason is a recipe for disaster.

It won't change, though, I don't believe they'll lean on him harder down the stretch. They have 3.5 very capable backs. One of which is a 30+ year old hammy waiting to happen.

 

[SameSongNDance]

The thing is hes completely td dependant. Hell never get alot of carries and he wont get many receptions. Hes lile jerome bettis

Pretty much all RB's outside the Top 15 are either TD-dependent or reception dependent.

A healthy SJax getting 14-15 carries/game on that offense with most GL carries, throw in 1-3 recpts and you've got extremely good return on investment.

Don't think anyone was drafting him to be their RB1.

Theres no way he gets 14-15 carries A GAME. Thats his UPSIDE. And theres no way he gets 1-3 receptions a game. Maybe 1 a game

Hes a solid bye week fill in or flex vs bad teams. Thats it.

This is correct if nothing changes. I initially bumped this thread recommending him as flex because of what I presumed to be a cake MU, I wouldn't lean on him weekly if I had the choice. I wouldn't however, be afraid to recommend him again if I like the MU or if I see the dynamic change.

Hes been practicing since week 4 of preseason. How long before he should be in game shape? I think he should be in shape by now.

You'd be surprised. I noticed Reggie Wayne still laboring against PHI last week. Gronk also wasn't near game shape vs. MIN. I think it takes longer than you think. I also think ATL has been super smart limiting his snaps/touches. Giving a 30+ RB with his injury history the bulk of the carries after missing most of the preseason is a recipe for disaster.

It won't change, though, I don't believe they'll lean on him harder down the stretch. They have 3.5 very capable backs. One of which is a 30+ year old hammy waiting to happen.

I don't think we can concretely say this dynamic will remain the same for the entire season (injuries have to be taken into account at least). If ATL remains competitive, I can see them leaning more on him down the stretch because the fact remains that he's their best complete RB. He's still a better runner than Quizz, Freeman is clearly not ready and there's a reason Smith is near 30 and has never got a real shot in the NFL. Assuming SJax is their best RB, there's no real reason not use up whatever gas he has left if they are indeed playoff destined this year. I'd be willing to bet there will be a game down the road where the lean on SJax to close it out and he nears 20 touches.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

The thing is hes completely td dependant. Hell never get alot of carries and he wont get many receptions. Hes lile jerome bettis

Pretty much all RB's outside the Top 15 are either TD-dependent or reception dependent.

A healthy SJax getting 14-15 carries/game on that offense with most GL carries, throw in 1-3 recpts and you've got extremely good return on investment.

Don't think anyone was drafting him to be their RB1.

Theres no way he gets 14-15 carries A GAME. Thats his UPSIDE. And theres no way he gets 1-3 receptions a game. Maybe 1 a game

Hes a solid bye week fill in or flex vs bad teams. Thats it.

This is correct if nothing changes. I initially bumped this thread recommending him as flex because of what I presumed to be a cake MU, I wouldn't lean on him weekly if I had the choice. I wouldn't however, be afraid to recommend him again if I like the MU or if I see the dynamic change.

Hes been practicing since week 4 of preseason. How long before he should be in game shape? I think he should be in shape by now.

You'd be surprised. I noticed Reggie Wayne still laboring against PHI last week. Gronk also wasn't near game shape vs. MIN. I think it takes longer than you think. I also think ATL has been super smart limiting his snaps/touches. Giving a 30+ RB with his injury history the bulk of the carries after missing most of the preseason is a recipe for disaster.

It won't change, though, I don't believe they'll lean on him harder down the stretch. They have 3.5 very capable backs. One of which is a 30+ year old hammy waiting to happen.

I don't know how you can say for sure that it won't change when it already has changed some. Going into last night you would have said they had 4 guys to lean on and now it's 3.5, or realistically probably 3.

They have several "capable" guys but one has clearly been the better combination of production and ball security than the others. Yes they want to protect him but when the playoff race starts to shake out that may go out the window in favor of needing to win games now rather than protect players for the future. This isn't the Broncos we're talking about here, Atlanta is unlikely to have the division sewn up with a month left in the season.

 

[SameSongNDance]

SJax actually turned in his worst statistical performance on the ground this week (13/37/1) but because of his 5/37/0 receiving stat line, he put up 74 all purpose yards and his subsequent best fantasy performance so far on the season (~18 in 1PPR). Where did these targets (6) come from? Quizz only saw 2 on the day and although Freeman saw 6 as well, this wasn't until very late in the game with it out of reach. If this is a sign of things to come? This could go a long way in buoying is PPR floor a la Asiata. I still don't trust him outside of flex value in standard but it's interesting at least.

 

[Rick James]

Down here in Atlanta, the fans are getting a little pissed that Antone Smith isn't playing more snaps.

 

[Banger]

I have SJax in a few leagues and will look to deal him this week.

 

[Koya]

Down here in Atlanta, the fans are getting a little pissed that Antone Smith isn't playing more snaps.

Feels a bit like Ellington last year

 

[buddhacwru]

Anyone downgrading S. Jax and the other RBs with Atlanta's terrible O-Line? He seems droppable to me.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I'm only hanging on to him as insurance to get through my bye week issues which for me end after week 9. Then I'm going to kick him to the curb in both my redraft and dynasty leagues.

 

[Banger]

Anyone downgrading S. Jax and the other RBs with Atlanta's terrible O-Line? He seems droppable to me.

I mistakenly targetted and drafted him in every league and over the past two weeks have dropped him in every league for waiver wire options with some upside. SJax needs a TD to have any value at all and that offense seems to be falling apart...

 

[zamboni]

Anyone downgrading S. Jax and the other RBs with Atlanta's terrible O-Line? He seems droppable to me.

I mistakenly targetted and drafted him in every league and over the past two weeks have dropped him in every league for waiver wire options with some upside. SJax needs a TD to have any value at all and that offense seems to be falling apart...

I'm done with him as well. Even if the Falcons' offense starts humming, I don't see a situation where he'll get a ton of touches and maybe a handful of TDs.

My thought is that if I have to rely on him as weekly starter, my season is done anyway.

 

[oswizzle]

SJax needs to be in on more plays now that the O-Line has turned to Swiss Cheese

He usually plays solid when Julio gets going

 

[Banger]

SJax needs to be in on more plays now that the O-Line has turned to Swiss Cheese

He usually plays solid when Julio gets going

but what makes you think that he will get those touches and if he does, what will he realistically do with them?

 

[freshhh]

Thinking about dropping him in Dynasty. Just wondering if most people have by now? Not that there are any real options out there for me at this point.

 

[zamboni]

Thinking about dropping him in Dynasty. Just wondering if most people have by now? Not that there are any real options out there for me at this point.

Dynasty should be a no brainer. I'd be shocked if he didn't hang it up after this year.

 

[mozzy84]

Correct, droppable in all formats imo

 

[SameSongNDance]

What I find interesting is that no other team than OAK has less RZ chances per game than ATL does this year (2). To put this into perspective, JAC averages 2 RZ attempts per game. If ATL was visiting the RZ like IND/MIA for example, which is ~5 times a game, I'd like SJax's prospects a lot more so. Couple the lack of RZ chances with the make-shift OL and him getting sub 10 carries in each of the last two weeks and he's likely droppable outside of standard.

 

[lod01]

The only reason Jackson should be in there is to help pass protect. He's done as a runner and this OL sucks.

 

[Faust]

Youthful Steven Jackson sets a physical tone for Atlanta Falcons

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

According to ESPN's Vaughn McClure, Steven Jackson (quad) should be back for the Week 17 game against the Panthers.

Jackson strained his quad during the second quarter of Sunday's win at New Orleans and didn't return. That allowed Devonta Freeman to get some extra touches, turning one of the them into a 31-yard touchdown run and adding a 3-48-0 line as a receiver. The 31-year-old Jackson is averaging 3.72 YPC this season as the Falcons' feature back. If the Falcons beat the Panthers, they'll win the NFC South with a 7-9 record.

Related: Devonta Freeman

Source: ESPN.com
Dec 22 - 8:58 AM

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

The Falcons can save $3.75 million against the salary cap by releasing Steven Jackson.

Jackson is a questionable fit for new OC Kyle Shanahan's zone-blocking system. He's also going to be 32 in July and entering the final year of his contract. Shanahan spoke glowingly about second-year RB Devonta Freeman at his introductory press conference and has worked wonders in the past with inexpensive running backs. Jackson is best-suited for a short-yardage role.

Feb 11 - 9:37 AM

 

[Faust]

Does Steven Jackson fit in Kyle Shanahan's scheme?

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

ESPN Falcons reporter Vaughn McClure says Steven Jackson is likely to be released.

The Falcons can save $3.75M against the cap by cutting dead-legged Jackson, who turns 32 in July and is a poor fit for new OC Kyle Shanahan's zone scheme. He's averaged a pathetic 3.60 YPC since signing with Atlanta in 2013, scoring just 13 touchdowns in 27 games while often playing through soft-tissue strains. S-Jax will have to settle for a bottom-barrel short-yardage role if he wants to stay in the league. Meanwhile, the Falcons have a lot of work to do on their backfield as Shanny only has undersized Devonta Freeman as a feature back option right now.

Related: Devonta Freeman

Source: ESPN.com
Feb 12 - 9:21 AM

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Falcons released RB Steven Jackson.
The move clears $3.75 million in cap space, and was a no-brainer based on Jackson's play the past two seasons. S-Jax averaged 4.23 yards per carry in nine years as a Ram, but saw that number dip to 3.60 in Atlanta. Constantly battling leg injuries, S-Jax was running on fumes from the moment he arrived in Atlanta. Going on 32 with 3,203 career touches to his name, it's quite possible Jackson's playing days are at an end. For now, Devonta Freeman is the new lead back in Atlanta, but he'll undoubtedly face competition in the form of a draft pick.

Related: Falcons, Devonta Freeman

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Feb 26 - 7:26 PM

 

[ex-ghost]

The end of SJax? I think so.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

I never really understood ATL signing a 30 year old Jackson (and his 2400 career carries to that point) after watching Turner fall off a cliff before him.

If this is the end, he had a great career.

 

[bucsbaby]

One of my fav players to watch all time. Sucks that he wasted his career away in StL. Would've been sweet to see him as the center piece of a good team. He carried that team on his shoulders and they were pretty horrific around him. Such a great, determined, and tragically loyal player.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Steven Jackson - RB - Free Agent

Free agent RB Steven Jackson has no plans to retire.

"Make no mistake: I can still punish a defense," Jackson said in a statement. "There are 1,000-yard seasons left in these legs." While speaking well of the Falcons, S-Jax intimated his 2013-14 struggles were due in part to the fact that he wasn't given enough opportunities to wear defenses down with big workloads. Jackson was actually one of the league's best backs after first contact in 2014, but his game has noticeably lacked juice for some time now. As a free agent, Jackson will try to match the $1.2 million guaranteed Maurice Jones-Drew got last spring.

Source: SJ39.com

Feb 26 - 9:42 PM

 

[Shutout]

Probably ends up in New England or Pitt or some contending team, backing up an established starter. Some team will sign him because he's been a good person and player and he will likely agree to a $1-$1.5 million low deal on a contender just for the opportunity to get a ring.

I don't think we've seen the last of SJAX, just the end of any FF relevance (which has really already happened), barring an injury.

Personally, I would like to see him in Houston IF I thought Houston could be a contender. That would be good real life scenario as well as potentially for fantasy. Colts maybe?

 

[msommer]

Stick a fork in him, he's done. They used him up in STL

 

[Faust]

Steven Jackson: Time with Falcons a 'disappointment'