Steven Jackson vs Denver (1 Viewer)

[Joe Kidd]

With all the perceived question marks, is anyone else considering sitting Jackson for a better option this week?

There are several backs listed ahead of him in the FBG projections for this week.

Is there anyway you can sit your 1st Rd. pick?

 

[JuniorNB]

This early in the season, you start your studs.

Later in the year, you have a better idea who the strong or weak defenses are, who has a good offensive line, ect.

Other than an obvious injury concrern (Portis, S. Smith, ect.), I don't feel it's a good idea to get too matchup-obsessed just yet.

 

[valhallan]

Thought about sitting him for a minute, but I agree with Junior - start your studs for the first few weeks.

 

[diesel7982]

With all the perceived question marks, is anyone else considering sitting Jackson for a better option this week?

There are several backs listed ahead of him in the FBG projections for this week.

Is there anyway you can sit your 1st Rd. pick?

I know this will sound overly simplistic, but start the guys you expect to do the best. If I had a Deshaun Foster and Corey Dillon on my team, Id start them both over Jackson.

 

[jaylasoul14]

Are you guys out of your mind! 25 touches will guarantee production from Sdot this week. He is super talented and a beast when it comes to crossing the stripe! Yes, I own Jackson in multiple leagues.

 

[intrinsic]

he will get a ton of looks, maybe not right AT the GL, but enough to make his value clear regardless of the DEF imo.

 

[diesel7982]

Are you guys out of your mind! 25 touches will guarantee production from Sdot this week. He is super talented and a beast when it comes to crossing the stripe! Yes, I own Jackson in multiple leagues.

We can argue about how much Linehan will have an effect, but Jackson had 25 touches twice last year.Against one of the top 5 run Ds in the league, he'll be lucky to get 80 total yards, and a score would be a surprise.

 

[Vikes Fan]

You know, I had thoughts of sitting him for Rueben Droughns because of the listed uncertainties and the fact that I have seen Droughns listed as a favorable matchup. But I think I will follow the path listed by others and start my stud. So, I am pretty sure that Jackson will be my starter.

 

[jaylasoul14]

Well you said, new coach, new system, new dedication to the running game. Only way he has a bad week at home is if the Broncos score a quick 14 points and st. louis abandons the running game entirely

 

[eoMMan]

You know, I had thoughts of sitting him for Rueben Droughns because of the listed uncertainties and the fact that I have seen Droughns listed as a favorable matchup. But I think I will follow the path listed by others and start my stud. So, I am pretty sure that Jackson will be my starter.

Same exact situation here with Droughns and Jackson. I also have FWP too, though. It'll probably end up being FWP and Jackson.

 

[Loopdog]

dont overthink this stuff.

Steven Jackson had 180 yards or something absurd against the Jags last year when nobody was running on them, he's a stud, he's gonna be a stud, you drafted him now play him

to start Corey Dillon or Deshaun Foster over him or someone like that would be an absolute MISTAKE in my opinion

 

[laughinboy_2000]

Are you guys out of your mind! 25 touches will guarantee production from Sdot this week. He is super talented and a beast when it comes to crossing the stripe! Yes, I own Jackson in multiple leagues.

We can argue about how much Linehan will have an effect, but Jackson had 25 touches twice last year.Against one of the top 5 run Ds in the league, he'll be lucky to get 80 total yards, and a score would be a surprise.

I could not agree more. I see the Rams trailing early and often which will force them to pass the rock. Goodbye SJAX, hello Torry Holt!!

 

[FBGirl79]

I decided to start Rudi Johnson and bench S. Jax for FWP as my #2RB this week. All this reading though is making me question it. The projections have FWP higher too though so I decided to bench one of my studs...now I'll just pray FWP brings it tonight!

 

[(HULK)]

ALWAYS BENCH YOUR STUDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[achemen]

dont overthink this stuff.Steven Jackson had 180 yards or something absurd against the Jags last year when nobody was running on them, he's a stud, he's gonna be a stud, you drafted him now play himto start Corey Dillon or Deshaun Foster over him or someone like that would be an absolute MISTAKE in my opinion

Great point. 179 yds, 7.2 ypc. He's a house, and will start every week on my teams.

 

[Yitbos69]

I am benching Jackson this week.....But only because I have Alexander and Rudi to start...It was a tough call but I like Rudi's match up!!

Most weeks I will start Jackson!!

 

[diesel7982]

dont overthink this stuff.

Steven Jackson had 180 yards or something absurd against the Jags last year when nobody was running on them, he's a stud, he's gonna be a stud, you drafted him now play him

to start Corey Dillon or Deshaun Foster over him or someone like that would be an absolute MISTAKE in my opinion

Great point. 179 yds, 7.2 ypc. He's a house, and will start every week on my teams.

And he also put up 12 carries for 6 yards at home against the Cardinals, had 35 carries for 88 yards against the 49ers in 2 games, put up 48 yards against the Titans, 17 against the Giants.Whats your point?

 

[Yitbos69]

dont overthink this stuff.

Steven Jackson had 180 yards or something absurd against the Jags last year when nobody was running on them, he's a stud, he's gonna be a stud, you drafted him now play him

to start Corey Dillon or Deshaun Foster over him or someone like that would be an absolute MISTAKE in my opinion

Great point. 179 yds, 7.2 ypc. He's a house, and will start every week on my teams.

And he also put up 12 carries for 6 yards at home against the Cardinals, had 35 carries for 88 yards against the 49ers in 2 games, put up 48 yards against the Titans, 17 against the Giants.Whats your point?

I think the point was that he ran really well against the Jags

 

[achemen]

dont overthink this stuff.

Steven Jackson had 180 yards or something absurd against the Jags last year when nobody was running on them, he's a stud, he's gonna be a stud, you drafted him now play him

to start Corey Dillon or Deshaun Foster over him or someone like that would be an absolute MISTAKE in my opinion

Great point. 179 yds, 7.2 ypc. He's a house, and will start every week on my teams.

And he also put up 12 carries for 6 yards at home against the Cardinals, had 35 carries for 88 yards against the 49ers in 2 games, put up 48 yards against the Titans, 17 against the Giants.Whats your point?

My point is that, in Martz's pass happy offense, he averaged over 4 ypc for the year. That's pretty solid. If they focus more on the run this year, like we hear they're going to, he's going to be a great RB. That's all.

 

[KevT]

I am benching Jackson this week.....But only because I have Alexander and Rudi to start...It was a tough call but I like Rudi's match up!!Most weeks I will start Jackson!!

Sounds like a good plan!!!But you should consider playing Rudi over Jackson every week!!!! Rudi is better!!!

 

[Gopher State]

I really like Steven Davis in TD only leagues to puch one or two TD's in. Jackson will get yards, but TD's maybe hard for him to come by this week

 

[J R]

My point is that, in Martz's pass happy offense, he averaged over 4 ypc for the year. That's pretty solid. If they focus more on the run this year, like we hear they're going to, he's going to be a great RB. That's all.

Well, we heard the same thing last year as well. But then the defense got blown out of a lot of games, and a few times - as noted above - they just couldn't do it. If you've followed the Rams this preseason, you know both of those problems may still exist.

 

[JuniorNB]

I really like Steven Davis in TD only leagues to puch one or two TD's in. Jackson will get yards, but TD's maybe hard for him to come by this week

But Davis will be able to figure it out?

 

[diesel7982]

dont overthink this stuff.

Steven Jackson had 180 yards or something absurd against the Jags last year when nobody was running on them, he's a stud, he's gonna be a stud, you drafted him now play him

to start Corey Dillon or Deshaun Foster over him or someone like that would be an absolute MISTAKE in my opinion

Great point. 179 yds, 7.2 ypc. He's a house, and will start every week on my teams.

And he also put up 12 carries for 6 yards at home against the Cardinals, had 35 carries for 88 yards against the 49ers in 2 games, put up 48 yards against the Titans, 17 against the Giants.Whats your point?

My point is that, in Martz's pass happy offense, he averaged over 4 ypc for the year. That's pretty solid. If they focus more on the run this year, like we hear they're going to, he's going to be a great RB. That's all.

How was one supposed to draw that conclusion from you positing he ran for 180 against the Jags?Of all the RBs that have started for Martz, 4.1 ypc is amongst, if not, the lowest ypc for any starter under his tenure. How is that a positive?

 

[SSOG]

I disagree with the assumption that Denver's rushing D is really that tough. It's an above-average unit, but it's not an elite unit, here. The strength of the defense is actually the PASSING defense, as odd as it sounds.

Denver's rushing D looked so good and its passing D looked so bad last year primarily because Denver was the biggest front-runner in the entire NFL. Teams got down in a hurry, and abandoned the run in a hurry, which led to Denver facing the most lopsided pass:run ratio in the entire league last year.

As a result, I tend to think that you should predict a good day from S-Jax if you think that St. Louis is going to manage to hang close to Denver (or if Linehan really meant what he said about running more in all situations), and predict a bad day from S-Jax if you think that Denver is going to get up by 14 early and milk that lead for all it's worth the rest of the way.

 

[Philly Hater]

And he also put up 12 carries for 6 yards at home against the Cardinals, had 35 carries for 88 yards against the 49ers in 2 games, put up 48 yards against the Titans, 17 against the Giants.Whats your point?

Admittedly, I do not have the stats in front of me...but in most of these games that you list, wasn't Bulger out? If so, that allowed defenses to stack the line. Maybe I'm wrong, it just seems like most of Jackson's disappointing performances came after Bulger was hurt.

 

[valhallan]

I disagree with the assumption that Denver's rushing D is really that tough. It's an above-average unit, but it's not an elite unit, here. The strength of the defense is actually the PASSING defense, as odd as it sounds.Denver's rushing D looked so good and its passing D looked so bad last year primarily because Denver was the biggest front-runner in the entire NFL. Teams got down in a hurry, and abandoned the run in a hurry, which led to Denver facing the most lopsided pass:run ratio in the entire league last year.As a result, I tend to think that you should predict a good day from S-Jax if you think that St. Louis is going to manage to hang close to Denver (or if Linehan really meant what he said about running more in all situations), and predict a bad day from S-Jax if you think that Denver is going to get up by 14 early and milk that lead for all it's worth the rest of the way.

Do you think the fact the Broncos rarely play in domes will have any effect on them?

 

[SSOG]

I disagree with the assumption that Denver's rushing D is really that tough. It's an above-average unit, but it's not an elite unit, here. The strength of the defense is actually the PASSING defense, as odd as it sounds.Denver's rushing D looked so good and its passing D looked so bad last year primarily because Denver was the biggest front-runner in the entire NFL. Teams got down in a hurry, and abandoned the run in a hurry, which led to Denver facing the most lopsided pass:run ratio in the entire league last year.As a result, I tend to think that you should predict a good day from S-Jax if you think that St. Louis is going to manage to hang close to Denver (or if Linehan really meant what he said about running more in all situations), and predict a bad day from S-Jax if you think that Denver is going to get up by 14 early and milk that lead for all it's worth the rest of the way.

Do you think the fact the Broncos rarely play in domes will have any effect on them?

No.

 

[achemen]

dont overthink this stuff.

Steven Jackson had 180 yards or something absurd against the Jags last year when nobody was running on them, he's a stud, he's gonna be a stud, you drafted him now play him

to start Corey Dillon or Deshaun Foster over him or someone like that would be an absolute MISTAKE in my opinion

Great point. 179 yds, 7.2 ypc. He's a house, and will start every week on my teams.

And he also put up 12 carries for 6 yards at home against the Cardinals, had 35 carries for 88 yards against the 49ers in 2 games, put up 48 yards against the Titans, 17 against the Giants.Whats your point?

My point is that, in Martz's pass happy offense, he averaged over 4 ypc for the year. That's pretty solid. If they focus more on the run this year, like we hear they're going to, he's going to be a great RB. That's all.

How was one supposed to draw that conclusion from you positing he ran for 180 against the Jags?Of all the RBs that have started for Martz, 4.1 ypc is amongst, if not, the lowest ypc for any starter under his tenure. How is that a positive?

My posting his stats were nothing more than confirming what Loopdog said earlier. Marshall Faulk averaged under 4 ypc one year and still had 10 TDs, which is pretty good. SJax is a big back that needs more carries to get rolling, and if he get's them this year I think he'll do better than 4.5 ypc with double digit TDs even with SD there. If they run like they say they will....that's your positive.

 

[valhallan]

I disagree with the assumption that Denver's rushing D is really that tough. It's an above-average unit, but it's not an elite unit, here. The strength of the defense is actually the PASSING defense, as odd as it sounds.Denver's rushing D looked so good and its passing D looked so bad last year primarily because Denver was the biggest front-runner in the entire NFL. Teams got down in a hurry, and abandoned the run in a hurry, which led to Denver facing the most lopsided pass:run ratio in the entire league last year.As a result, I tend to think that you should predict a good day from S-Jax if you think that St. Louis is going to manage to hang close to Denver (or if Linehan really meant what he said about running more in all situations), and predict a bad day from S-Jax if you think that Denver is going to get up by 14 early and milk that lead for all it's worth the rest of the way.

Do you think the fact the Broncos rarely play in domes will have any effect on them?

No.

 

[incubus0]

Looking at the play-by-play, StL all but abandoned the run within 10 yards, even though Jackson was running well.

1-10-DEN 18 (5:42) 39-S.Jackson left end to DEN 17 for 1 yard (91-E.Ekuban, 56-A.Wilson).2-9-DEN 17 (5:08) 39-S.Jackson up the middle to DEN 8 for 9 yards (61-G.Warren, 25-N.Ferguson). R5 1-8-DEN 8 (4:33) 10-M.Bulger pass incomplete short right to 80-I.Bruce.2-8-DEN 8 (4:28) 10-M.Bulger pass short middle to 39-S.Jackson to DEN 7 for 1 yard (24-C.Bailey). Penalty on SL-67-A.McCollum, Ineligible Downfield Pass, declined.3-7-DEN 7 (3:55) (Shotgun) 10-M.Bulger pass incomplete short middle to 84-S.McDonald (22-D.Foxworth).4-7-DEN 7 (3:48) 14-J.Wilkins 26 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-45-C.Massey, Holder-89-D.Looker. DEN 0 SL 3, 15 plays, 69 yards, 1 penalty, 7:46 drive, 11:16 elapsed

1-3-DEN 3 (1:19) 39-S.Jackson right guard to DEN 2 for 1 yard (76-K.Lang, 55-DJ.Williams).2-2-DEN 2 40) 10-M.Bulger pass incomplete short left to 89-D.Looker. PENALTY on SL-10-M.Bulger, Intentional Grounding, 14 yards, enforced at DEN 2.3-16-DEN 16 35) 10-M.Bulger pass incomplete short middle to 81-T.Holt.4-16-DEN 16 29) PENALTY on SL-44-M.Hedgecock, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at DEN 16 - No Play.4-26-DEN 26 25) 14-J.Wilkins 44 yard field goal is No Good, Hit Right Upright, Center-45-C.Massey, Holder-89-D.Looker.

1-10-DEN 17 (11:54) 39-S.Jackson up the middle to DEN 14 for 3 yards (55-DJ.Williams).2-7-DEN 14 (11:15) 39-S.Jackson up the middle to DEN 11 for 3 yards (91-E.Ekuban).3-4-DEN 11 (10:35) (Shotgun) 10-M.Bulger pass incomplete short left to 80-I.Bruce.4-4-DEN 11 (10:28) 14-J.Wilkins 29 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-45-C.Massey, Holder-89-D.Looker. DEN 0 SL 9, 4 plays, 6 yards, 1:30 drive, 4:36 elapsed

1-10-DEN 21 (7:52) 39-S.Jackson right end pushed ob at DEN 9 for 12 yards (25-N.Ferguson). R141-9-DEN 9 (7:23) 39-S.Jackson right end to DEN 6 for 3 yards (47-J.Lynch).2-6-DEN 6 (6:39) 10-M.Bulger pass incomplete short middle to 81-T.Holt. Timeout #1 by SL at 06:33.3-6-DEN 6 (6:33) (Shotgun) 10-M.Bulger pass incomplete short left to 80-I.Bruce.4-6-DEN 6 (6:28) 14-J.Wilkins 24 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-45-C.Massey, Holder-89-D.Looker. DEN 10 SL 18, 11 plays, 82 yards, 1 penalty, 5:36 drive, 8:36 elapsed

Did anyone see the whole game? How did he look on short yardage plays?

 

[2banalias]

Looking at the play-by-play, StL all but abandoned the run within 10 yards, even though Jackson was running well. Did anyone see the whole game? How did he look on short yardage plays?

I watched the whole game and it seemed like the team just fell apart in the red zone. It was really odd to watch as the Rams had NO problems moving the ball until they hit the 20 yard line. They didn't stick to the run and Bulger was not passing well at all. I think it was partly Bulger's fault and partly a great red zone defense in the Broncos. Steven Jackson looked like a top 3 RB.

 

[RBM]

Jackson looked unreal at times, carrying 3-4 defenders for chunks of yards.

 

[TheFanatic]

Looking at the play-by-play, StL all but abandoned the run within 10 yards, even though Jackson was running well. Did anyone see the whole game? How did he look on short yardage plays?

I watched the whole game and it seemed like the team just fell apart in the red zone. It was really odd to watch as the Rams had NO problems moving the ball until they hit the 20 yard line. They didn't stick to the run and Bulger was not passing well at all. I think it was partly Bulger's fault and partly a great red zone defense in the Broncos. Steven Jackson looked like a top 3 RB.

It seemed like as soon as they hit the 20 all discipline went out the window too with multiple holding calls and an intentional grounding. The question of whether or not SDavis will be used at the GL is yet to be determined. We would need to see some goal line carries before we can make any more assumptions on this one....

 

[SSOG]

I disagree with the assumption that Denver's rushing D is really that tough. It's an above-average unit, but it's not an elite unit, here. The strength of the defense is actually the PASSING defense, as odd as it sounds.Denver's rushing D looked so good and its passing D looked so bad last year primarily because Denver was the biggest front-runner in the entire NFL. Teams got down in a hurry, and abandoned the run in a hurry, which led to Denver facing the most lopsided pass:run ratio in the entire league last year.As a result, I tend to think that you should predict a good day from S-Jax if you think that St. Louis is going to manage to hang close to Denver (or if Linehan really meant what he said about running more in all situations), and predict a bad day from S-Jax if you think that Denver is going to get up by 14 early and milk that lead for all it's worth the rest of the way.

Do you think the fact the Broncos rarely play in domes will have any effect on them?

No.

I somehow doubt that Javon Walker and Tony Scheffler dropping passes, and Denver's offensive line forgetting how to pass protect, was a result of playing in a Dome.

Jackson looked unreal at times, carrying 3-4 defenders for chunks of yards.

Absolutely agreed. Denver really shut Steven Jackson down early, but that was more a function of the blocking and the defense than Jackson himself. Every single run, Jackson seemed to take everything that was there and then fight for an extra 2 yards. I think a lot of it was fatigue for Denver's poor defense, but by late in the game, he was taking EVERYONE for a ride. He looked like an absolute BEAST out there against a quality defense.Oddly enough, it seemed like Champ Bailey was the only player capable of taking him down 1-on-1.

 

[mbuehner]

Oddly enough, it seemed like Champ Bailey was the only player capable of taking him down 1-on-1.

They ought to show that open field tackle to kids as a training video. It was absolutely textbook perfect.