Stewart vs McFadden (1 Viewer)

[az_prof]

I am inspired by the recent thread comparing Richardson and Stewart--I think it had a lot of productive insights. In thinking about that contrast, I looked at McFadden's statw and was surprised to see that he has not done as much as Stewart, and yet is valued more highly here by most. Considering that McFadden is coming back from lis franc, that is even more surprising. I would like to hear why people think McFadden is so much more valuable than Stewart? Is it just because he is sitting in a position to start in 2012? Because that is about the only advantage I see.

Production wise, Stewart has been more productive despite having a better tandem back to compete against for carries.

Stewart: 725 carries, 3,500 yards, 4.8 ypc, and 26 TDs.

McFadden: 553 carries, 2,627 yards, 4.8 ypc, and 16 TDs.

McFadden was annointed the started and has been given every chance to be a stud; Stewart has been behind a star in Williams and had to fight for opportunities. Both have battled injuries for PT, but Stewart has stayed on the field and produced while McFadden has been on the sidelines more. McFadden is coming back from a very serious injury, liz franc.

While McFadden is the clear started in Oakland this year, Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013. So why is he valued so much more?

 

[Shutout]

Personally, I think JSTEW is worth a lot more than DMAC and I think you nailed it in that DMAC has the clear short-term opportunity advantage and people, by and large, and surprisingly, don't really consider DMAC's injuries all that much when they trade for him.

Even more telling, I think your stat showing the production difference between JSTEW and DMAC is the kind of comparative piece that should really show some insight into the Richardson Vs. JSTEW thread. That really puts it into persepctive a little better when you see that, as highly thought of that DMAC is, JSTEW is better. IMO, just another argument for why JSTEW is the better value vs. Richardson...and DMAC.

 

[squistion]

McFadden is coming back from a very serious injury, liz franc.

It was not a full Lisfranc. It did not require surgery. It was a more of sprain. If it was indeed that serious he would not now be ready for the upcoming OTAs

 

[Steed]

We need Maroney=Speed to weigh in

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

McFadden is worth soo much more. How many years has people been saying "next year" will be Stewarts time? I just dont buy it, he has stated he has no problem sharing carries and I just don't see him leaving Carolina period.

McFadden has had a bit of trouble staying healthy but last year gave us a glimpse of what he can do. If he stays healthy this year he will be a top 5 dynasty pick next year. Before you say he ccan't stay healthy I say he's had bad luck. Lis franc injury was a freak accident and could have happened to anyone. He also managed 3 healthy productive college years.

 

[Buckna]

Any reason you left out receiving stats?

Stewart: 81 rec, 702 yards, 8.8 ypc, 3 TD's in 62 games

McFadden: 116 rec, 1,191 yards, 10.3 ypc, 4 TD's in 45 games

Stewart obviously perked up last year on the receiving end posting half his cumulative stats in 1 season, but now they have Tolbert who caught 54 passes for SD last year.

Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, but how many times have we heard this now?Edit: Oops, it was 79 targets, not catches.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Any reason you left out receiving stats?

Stewart: 81 rec, 702 yards, 8.8 ypc, 3 TD's in 62 games

McFadden: 116 rec, 1,191 yards, 10.3 ypc, 4 TD's in 45 games

Stewart obviously perked up last year on the receiving end posting half his cumulative stats in 1 season, but now they have Tolbert who caught 79 passes for SD last year.

Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, but how many times have we heard this now?

people will keep saying it. move along I say

 

[jurb26]

Any reason you left out receiving stats?

Stewart: 81 rec, 702 yards, 8.8 ypc, 3 TD's in 62 games

McFadden: 116 rec, 1,191 yards, 10.3 ypc, 4 TD's in 45 games

Stewart obviously perked up last year on the receiving end posting half his cumulative stats in 1 season, but now they have Tolbert who caught 79 passes for SD last year.

Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, but how many times have we heard this now?

McFadden is the better play and it's pretty obvious as to why IMO. Both are talented and both have proven their ability when on the field. McFadden has proven to be more valuable because of his heavy involvement in the passing game. He is probably one of the top 3 RBs in the NFL when it comes to catching the ball out of the backfield. To ignore those stats is silly.

Really, the answer is simply and the OP has already provided it. We KNOW that McFadden is the starter for his team. People only speculate that Stewart will get this great opportunity to produce and be in a featured role. I'll take the bird in the hand.

 

[Run It Up]

I keep wondering why there are so many JStew vs Random player topics, I feel like its just left over hypetrain from the previous two years.

Its pretty simple, if he doesnt leave Carolina his ceiling is 2009 numbers and his floor is 2011 numbers. IMO if he leaves Carolina (which wont happen until the 2013 season) his ceiling is still his 2009 numbers, he hasnt done a thing to show me he is a dynamic rb for being labeled by many as one of the best all around rbs in the league he has been overwhelmingly mediocre even in 2009.

Hes obviously worth something in dynasty but I wouldnt draft in a redraft period and when comparing him to any of the rbs that topics have been made for so far its easy for me to take the other guy, even if its Mcfadden for 8 games vs JStew for a whole season.

Edit: 2009 not 2010, derp.

 

[az_prof]

Any reason you left out receiving stats?

Stewart: 81 rec, 702 yards, 8.8 ypc, 3 TD's in 62 games

McFadden: 116 rec, 1,191 yards, 10.3 ypc, 4 TD's in 45 games

Stewart obviously perked up last year on the receiving end posting half his cumulative stats in 1 season, but now they have Tolbert who caught 79 passes for SD last year.

Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, but how many times have we heard this now?

About as long as we have heard this: "If only McFadden stays healthy all season he will be a top 5 player."

 

[HE DID WHAT!?]

I would love to see Mcfadden stay healthy for a full season. He has top 5 RB potential. His upside is huge. Stewart has big upside as well but I would take Mcfadden every day and twice on Sunday and just hope he stays healthy. I love to watch him play and I hate the Raiders...

 

[todisco1]

Its pretty simple, if he doesnt leave Carolina his ceiling is 2010 numbers and his floor is 2011 numbers. IMO if he leaves Carolina (which wont happen until the 2013 season) his ceiling is still his 2010 numbers, he hasnt done a thing to show me he is a dynamic rb for being labeled by many as one of the best all around rbs in the league he has been overwhelmingly mediocre even in 2010.

How'd he look in 2009?

 

[Touchdown There]

I'll take the bird in the hand.

A bird in the hand is worth more without M. Bush.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Does anyone really think that Stewart and Williams are both Panthers in 2013? They extended DeAngelo last year before they knew what they had in Cam, probably with the intention of running a hugely RB-centric offense while their rookie QB developed. Now that it's pretty obvious that Cam can carry the offense, I can't see them saddling themselves with another big long-term deal at the RB position. The only thing keeping Stewart from elite fantasy production has been the fact that he's been sharing with another elite RB. Stewart also actually matched DMC's career high in catches last year.

I think the two are pretty close. Both top-shelf talents, roughly equal risks (McFadden's injury history vs. Stewart's uncertain team situation).

 

[Run It Up]

Its pretty simple, if he doesnt leave Carolina his ceiling is 2010 numbers and his floor is 2011 numbers. IMO if he leaves Carolina (which wont happen until the 2013 season) his ceiling is still his 2010 numbers, he hasnt done a thing to show me he is a dynamic rb for being labeled by many as one of the best all around rbs in the league he has been overwhelmingly mediocre even in 2010.

How'd he look in 2009?

Mixed his 2010 season with his 2009 season, I owned him and DWill that year.

 

[ark]

1) IF Stewart is the starter somewhere and

2) IF DMC stays healthy for the entire season

Assuming both the statements above are true, would be a good starting point for apples to apples (RB starter to RB starter) comparison.

I would rather have DMC over Stewart, but it is close.

 

[az_prof]

1) IF Stewart is the starter somewhere and 2) IF DMC stays healthy for the entire seasonAssuming both the statements above are true, would be a good starting point for apples to apples (RB starter to RB starter) comparison.I would rather have DMC over Stewart, but it is close.

The problem with this hypothetical is that (1) is far more likely to happen before (2) IMO. So, I can't separate the relative liklihood from my preference for Stewart.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Its pretty simple, if he doesnt leave Carolina his ceiling is 2010 numbers and his floor is 2011 numbers. IMO if he leaves Carolina (which wont happen until the 2013 season) his ceiling is still his 2010 numbers, he hasnt done a thing to show me he is a dynamic rb for being labeled by many as one of the best all around rbs in the league he has been overwhelmingly mediocre even in 2010.

How'd he look in 2009?

Mixed his 2010 season with his 2009 season, I owned him and DWill that year.

If you owned him / watched him at all in 2009 how can you possibly say he's not dynamic? He looked like one of the best RBs in the NFL that year when he had a chance to carry the load.Stewart has some legit question marks (how will he respond to 300 touches, landing spot, passing game usage); being dynamic with the football in his hands is actually the one really sure thing with him.

 

[Run It Up]

Its pretty simple, if he doesnt leave Carolina his ceiling is 2010 numbers and his floor is 2011 numbers. IMO if he leaves Carolina (which wont happen until the 2013 season) his ceiling is still his 2010 numbers, he hasnt done a thing to show me he is a dynamic rb for being labeled by many as one of the best all around rbs in the league he has been overwhelmingly mediocre even in 2010.

How'd he look in 2009?

Mixed his 2010 season with his 2009 season, I owned him and DWill that year.

If you owned him / watched him at all in 2009 how can you possibly say he's not dynamic? He looked like one of the best RBs in the NFL that year when he had a chance to carry the load.Stewart has some legit question marks (how will he respond to 300 touches, landing spot, passing game usage); being dynamic with the football in his hands is actually the one really sure thing with him.

And that seems to be the overwhelming opinion of the same few people that say it every year.When I owned him in 2009 he was drafted as a handcuff to Dwill, some could say im biased for not drafting him off his potential or what have you. Obviously dynamic is a subjective term but to me he just isnt, being able to catch a ball doesnt make a player dynamic to me, especially when running the ball is where his problems lie. He has the talent but seemingly not the experience (especially ball handling and vision)which is odd after playing in the league now for 4 years. He just seems raw and I dont think he hasnt been getting the ball because of poor coaching I think he hasnt been getting the opportunities because they cant trust him.The one upside I see is that in 2013 he will be an incredible buy low as I dont think he will get much playtime at all vs DWill and Tolbert.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Since when does 4.8 career YPC = problems running the ball? The coaching staff has trusted him just fine, he's just had to share with another fantastic RB (one who is top-5 since the merger in YPC for a RB). Being unable to get more than half the touches on a team with DeAngelo Williams is hardly an indictment of Stewart's ability.

 

[Run It Up]

Since when does 4.8 career YPC = problems running the ball? The coaching staff has trusted him just fine, he's just had to share with another fantastic RB (one who is top-5 since the merger in YPC for a RB). Being unable to get more than half the touches on a team with DeAngelo Williams is hardly an indictment of Stewart's ability.

There are advantages to sharing the field with a RB who is better than you, like being able to get more yards because the defense doesnt take you seriously (or as seriously). Either way his YPC has nothing to do with him putting the ball on the ground especially in crucial situations (because he holds it like hes in highschool) and his inability to adjust defenses.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Any reason you left out receiving stats?

Stewart: 81 rec, 702 yards, 8.8 ypc, 3 TD's in 62 games

McFadden: 116 rec, 1,191 yards, 10.3 ypc, 4 TD's in 45 games

Stewart obviously perked up last year on the receiving end posting half his cumulative stats in 1 season, but now they have Tolbert who caught 79 passes for SD last year.

Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, but how many times have we heard this now?

About as long as we have heard this: "If only McFadden stays healthy all season he will be a top 5 player."

um he has been a top 8 already. Stewart on the other hand has not come close.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

He's fumbled 10 times on 780 career touches, so he's actually pretty solid in that aspect. The guy we are comparing him to here, DMC, has 13 on 669 touches, for example, and neither one has a major Issue with fumbling.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Gotta think the people slagging Stewart here are probably the same ones who didn't like Steven Jackson, Michael Turner, Ahman Green and etc at one point or another. Lack of opportunity doesn't mean lack of talent.

Nice to see Stewart get the love in the consensus rankings at least.

 

[Buckna]

Any reason you left out receiving stats?

Stewart: 81 rec, 702 yards, 8.8 ypc, 3 TD's in 62 games

McFadden: 116 rec, 1,191 yards, 10.3 ypc, 4 TD's in 45 games

Stewart obviously perked up last year on the receiving end posting half his cumulative stats in 1 season, but now they have Tolbert who caught 79 passes for SD last year.

Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, but how many times have we heard this now?

About as long as we have heard this: "If only McFadden stays healthy all season he will be a top 5 player."

um he has been a top 8 already. Stewart on the other hand has not come close.

#7 in 2010 in my PPR league despite missing 3 games (1 in week 17 that doesn't matter for fantasy. If you look only thru week 16 he was actually #4.) In PPG, only Foster out-averaged McFadden in 2010. He was top 5 in PPG thru the first 6 games before his injury last year as well (small sample size acknowledged.) Clearly remaining healthly is an issue, but there's no denying that McFadden is explosive and a monster when healthy.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Stewart vs loki next

 

[Sabertooth]

Any reason you left out receiving stats?

Stewart: 81 rec, 702 yards, 8.8 ypc, 3 TD's in 62 games

McFadden: 116 rec, 1,191 yards, 10.3 ypc, 4 TD's in 45 games

Stewart obviously perked up last year on the receiving end posting half his cumulative stats in 1 season, but now they have Tolbert who caught 79 passes for SD last year.

Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, but how many times have we heard this now?

McFadden is the better play and it's pretty obvious as to why IMO. Both are talented and both have proven their ability when on the field. McFadden has proven to be more valuable because of his heavy involvement in the passing game. He is probably one of the top 3 RBs in the NFL when it comes to catching the ball out of the backfield. To ignore those stats is silly.

Really, the answer is simply and the OP has already provided it. We KNOW that McFadden is the starter for his team. People only speculate that Stewart will get this great opportunity to produce and be in a featured role. I'll take the bird in the hand.

Both have a career high of 47 catches. Stewart in 2011 and DMC in 2010. Not sure when you'd give DMC such an edge in that stat.

 

[chook]

Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, but how many times have we heard this now?

How many times has Stewart been a FA up until now?

 

[Buckna]

Any reason you left out receiving stats?

Stewart: 81 rec, 702 yards, 8.8 ypc, 3 TD's in 62 games

McFadden: 116 rec, 1,191 yards, 10.3 ypc, 4 TD's in 45 games

Stewart obviously perked up last year on the receiving end posting half his cumulative stats in 1 season, but now they have Tolbert who caught 79 passes for SD last year.

Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, but how many times have we heard this now?

McFadden is the better play and it's pretty obvious as to why IMO. Both are talented and both have proven their ability when on the field. McFadden has proven to be more valuable because of his heavy involvement in the passing game. He is probably one of the top 3 RBs in the NFL when it comes to catching the ball out of the backfield. To ignore those stats is silly.

Really, the answer is simply and the OP has already provided it. We KNOW that McFadden is the starter for his team. People only speculate that Stewart will get this great opportunity to produce and be in a featured role. I'll take the bird in the hand.

Both have a career high of 47 catches. Stewart in 2011 and DMC in 2010. Not sure when you'd give DMC such an edge in that stat.

Maybe because one of them did it in 13 games vs 16 and also averaged 2 ypr better while doing it?I don't want people to get me wrong, I actually like Stewart, but the OP asked for reasons why McFadden is more highly valued and there are some pretty clear reasons.

 

[Buckna]

Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, but how many times have we heard this now?

How many times has Stewart been a FA up until now?

So you know for a fact he won't get tagged or resigned in a years time? An old DeAngelo Stewart has already been a FA, and Carolina brought him back for ridiculous money rather than give Stewart the starting job. We can speculate the reasons, but that's not a good sign no matter how you spin it.

 

[Sabertooth]

Any reason you left out receiving stats?

Stewart: 81 rec, 702 yards, 8.8 ypc, 3 TD's in 62 games

McFadden: 116 rec, 1,191 yards, 10.3 ypc, 4 TD's in 45 games

Stewart obviously perked up last year on the receiving end posting half his cumulative stats in 1 season, but now they have Tolbert who caught 79 passes for SD last year.

Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, but how many times have we heard this now?

McFadden is the better play and it's pretty obvious as to why IMO. Both are talented and both have proven their ability when on the field. McFadden has proven to be more valuable because of his heavy involvement in the passing game. He is probably one of the top 3 RBs in the NFL when it comes to catching the ball out of the backfield. To ignore those stats is silly.

Really, the answer is simply and the OP has already provided it. We KNOW that McFadden is the starter for his team. People only speculate that Stewart will get this great opportunity to produce and be in a featured role. I'll take the bird in the hand.

Both have a career high of 47 catches. Stewart in 2011 and DMC in 2010. Not sure when you'd give DMC such an edge in that stat.

Maybe because one of them did it in 13 games vs 16 and also averaged 2 ypr better while doing it?I don't want people to get me wrong, I actually like Stewart, but the OP asked for reasons why McFadden is more highly valued and there are some pretty clear reasons.

See, that 13 games can be taken as a good thing or a bad thing. Just looking at the facts, Stewart has had a pretty solid career when stacked up to DMC. And I like DMC. But I think Stewart is just as valuable while the common perception is that DMC has a lot more value. I think it is pretty much a coin toss on the two.

 

[Buckna]

Any reason you left out receiving stats?

Stewart: 81 rec, 702 yards, 8.8 ypc, 3 TD's in 62 games

McFadden: 116 rec, 1,191 yards, 10.3 ypc, 4 TD's in 45 games

Stewart obviously perked up last year on the receiving end posting half his cumulative stats in 1 season, but now they have Tolbert who caught 79 passes for SD last year.

Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, but how many times have we heard this now?

McFadden is the better play and it's pretty obvious as to why IMO. Both are talented and both have proven their ability when on the field. McFadden has proven to be more valuable because of his heavy involvement in the passing game. He is probably one of the top 3 RBs in the NFL when it comes to catching the ball out of the backfield. To ignore those stats is silly.

Really, the answer is simply and the OP has already provided it. We KNOW that McFadden is the starter for his team. People only speculate that Stewart will get this great opportunity to produce and be in a featured role. I'll take the bird in the hand.

Both have a career high of 47 catches. Stewart in 2011 and DMC in 2010. Not sure when you'd give DMC such an edge in that stat.

Maybe because one of them did it in 13 games vs 16 and also averaged 2 ypr better while doing it?I don't want people to get me wrong, I actually like Stewart, but the OP asked for reasons why McFadden is more highly valued and there are some pretty clear reasons.

See, that 13 games can be taken as a good thing or a bad thing. Just looking at the facts, Stewart has had a pretty solid career when stacked up to DMC. And I like DMC. But I think Stewart is just as valuable while the common perception is that DMC has a lot more value. I think it is pretty much a coin toss on the two.

Can't say I neccessarily agree although McFadden's inability to stay healthy is certainly a cause for concern and puts a discount on his value. Their career numbers might be similar, but McFadden has done it in a lot fewer games. To me, he is clearly a stud when healthy. Stewart has put together a solid career splitting time, no doubt. He MIGHT be a stud if he gets the feature job, but that's a pretty big might. There are arguments to doubt Stewart while only one with McFadden, can he stay healthy?And I don't see Stewart as all that undervalued. Taking a quick look at the dynasty startup thread (admittedly there isn't much data to go on in there but I chose the 2 more recent FWIW):

McFadden - 2.05 & RB7, 3.04 & RB10

Stewart - 3.04 & RB10, 4.08 & RB16

 

[Sabertooth]

Any reason you left out receiving stats?

Stewart: 81 rec, 702 yards, 8.8 ypc, 3 TD's in 62 games

McFadden: 116 rec, 1,191 yards, 10.3 ypc, 4 TD's in 45 games

Stewart obviously perked up last year on the receiving end posting half his cumulative stats in 1 season, but now they have Tolbert who caught 79 passes for SD last year.

Stewart is likely to go somewhere as the clear starter in 2013.

Just playing Devil's Advocate, but how many times have we heard this now?

McFadden is the better play and it's pretty obvious as to why IMO. Both are talented and both have proven their ability when on the field. McFadden has proven to be more valuable because of his heavy involvement in the passing game. He is probably one of the top 3 RBs in the NFL when it comes to catching the ball out of the backfield. To ignore those stats is silly.

Really, the answer is simply and the OP has already provided it. We KNOW that McFadden is the starter for his team. People only speculate that Stewart will get this great opportunity to produce and be in a featured role. I'll take the bird in the hand.

Both have a career high of 47 catches. Stewart in 2011 and DMC in 2010. Not sure when you'd give DMC such an edge in that stat.

Maybe because one of them did it in 13 games vs 16 and also averaged 2 ypr better while doing it?I don't want people to get me wrong, I actually like Stewart, but the OP asked for reasons why McFadden is more highly valued and there are some pretty clear reasons.

See, that 13 games can be taken as a good thing or a bad thing. Just looking at the facts, Stewart has had a pretty solid career when stacked up to DMC. And I like DMC. But I think Stewart is just as valuable while the common perception is that DMC has a lot more value. I think it is pretty much a coin toss on the two.

Can't say I neccessarily agree although McFadden's inability to stay healthy is certainly a cause for concern and puts a discount on his value. Their career numbers might be similar, but McFadden has done it in a lot fewer games. To me, he is clearly a stud when healthy. Stewart has put together a solid career splitting time, no doubt. He MIGHT be a stud if he gets the feature job, but that's a pretty big might. There are arguments to doubt Stewart while only one with McFadden, can he stay healthy?And I don't see Stewart as all that undervalued. Taking a quick look at the dynasty startup thread (admittedly there isn't much data to go on in there but I chose the 2 more recent FWIW):

McFadden - 2.05 & RB7, 3.04 & RB10

Stewart - 3.04 & RB10, 4.08 & RB16

Good points all.

 

[LawFitz]

Stewart is solid. DMC is a stud.

One will keep you in games. The other will win you games.

The only thing keeping their values close is DMC's health concerns. That's it. End of story.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

When I owned him in 2009 he was drafted as a handcuff to Dwill, some could say im biased for not drafting him off his potential or what have you. Obviously dynamic is a subjective term but to me he just isnt, being able to catch a ball doesnt make a player dynamic to me, especially when running the ball is where his problems lie. He has the talent but seemingly not the experience (especially ball handling and vision)which is odd after playing in the league now for 4 years. He just seems raw and I dont think he hasnt been getting the ball because of poor coaching I think he hasnt been getting the opportunities because they cant trust him.

 

[flapgreen]

Relax...

 

[gebz306]

wasnt it an anne frank injury? we were all deaf, dumb and blind.

Cookies!

 

[Synesthesia]

And that seems to be the overwhelming opinion of the same few people that say it every year.When I owned him in 2009 he was drafted as a handcuff to Dwill, some could say im biased for not drafting him off his potential or what have you. Obviously dynamic is a subjective term but to me he just isnt, being able to catch a ball doesnt make a player dynamic to me, especially when running the ball is where his problems lie. He has the talent but seemingly not the experience (especially ball handling and vision)which is odd after playing in the league now for 4 years. He just seems raw and I dont think he hasnt been getting the ball because of poor coaching I think he hasnt been getting the opportunities because they cant trust him.The one upside I see is that in 2013 he will be an incredible buy low as I dont think he will get much playtime at all vs DWill and Tolbert.

Jonathan Stewart has a higher career ypc than AP, MJD, CJ3, Arian Foster, Frank Gore, Ray Rice, and yes, Darren McFadden. Not bad for a guy whose problems lie with his ability to run the ball. He's also posted 180+ touches in each of the last four seasons. That's three seasons more than McFadden has managed. His career best 239 touches just barely lags Mcfadden's 270. Not too shabby for a guy who doesn't get opportunities because his coach doesn't trust him.

um he has been a top 8 already. Stewart on the other hand has not come close.

11th isn't close to 8th?

Stewart is solid. DMC is a stud. One will keep you in games. The other will win you games.The only thing keeping their values close is DMC's health concerns. That's it. End of story.

Jonathan Stewart won't win you games? You might want to refresh your memory regarding his stretch run in 2009.

 

[Sabertooth]

Polarizing player. I happen to like both in redrafts. Dynasty I'm not sure I want to really hitch my wagon to either as an RB1, but wouldn't mind either as an RB2 (although you'd have to take DMC in the top 10 backs, whereas you could use Stewart in more of an upsidedown drafting model). Obviously they'd both be fantastic in the RB3 slot.

I think one thing people are forgetting is that you can select Stewart probably a full round or maybe even two rounds after you'd have to take DMC. That's a big value equalizer. That's why I see them as very close in value. Throw in the facts that neither has really left the other in the dust over four seasons of very different circumstances, and I think Stewart might just be the better value in the 4th than DMC is in the 2nd or 3rd.