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**Streaming Defense** Weeks 14-16 FF Playoffs (2 Viewers)

Skoo said:
I'm a Philly fan so take it FWIW but I'm planning on playing Philly for the rest of the year and I'd take them over NE. I think even in the tough matchups they will get enough sacks and turnovers to be solid. Also, who knows how good they really are. Sure, maybe it was just a down game for them but how often is Pittsburgh held to 3 points?

I own the Pats in another league and am content with them, but I think they are an average defense in the real world. I like them in fantasy to force some turnovers and score some points, but I'd rather have a dominant defense.
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Thanks for the take. I appreciate it.  I actually haven't watched much of Philly's defense to get a feel for whether it's that they are dominant or that they have simply gone up against some poor offense. 

Good to get some insight.

 
A little help please..I have Stafford Phil D and Pats D....do I play Stafford and NE D...or Eagles D and WW QB ( Hoyer, Fitz, Tannehill)..or Stafford and Eagles D......I'm playing vs monster team (both 3-1) he's big favorite (projections).  Right now I'm playing Stafford and NE D.  Thanks.

 
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richn said:
A little help please..I have Stafford Phil D and Pats D....do I play Stafford and NE D...or Eagles D and WW QB ( Hoyer, Fitz, Tannehill)..or Stafford and Eagles D......I'm playing vs monster team (both 3-1) he's big favorite (projections).  Right now I'm playing Stafford and NE D.  Thanks.
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Assuming you agree with the projections:

Stafford/Eagles is a low variance play...the better one does, the worse the other is likely to do.  You want this when you're tye one heavily favored.

If you believe Stafford is much better than his replacement, and the Eagles are much better than the Pats you do this anyway.

Looks like you at least believe the Pats are close to the Eagles.  Also, they play the Browns.  You need to play for ceiling when you expect to be down on average, so Stafford/Pats is the play.  (I dont see anything on that wire list that strikes me as both close to Stafford and having enough better matchup to be worth swapping that side.)

 
Weebs210 said:
Going Bills for the next couple weeks. They've been improving every week it seems.
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 This wasn't my intention, but I made two grievous errors this year with defenses.

 I targeted MIN everywhere during the draft and got them in 3 leagues. Then I got cold feet and dropped them before the GB game.  :wall:

 Then of course they showed the world they were for real, and I could not get them back in my two big $$$ leagues. (Although I was fortunate enough to get them back in a small money leagues....figures)

 Then not to be outdone, I noticed Philly sitting on the wire during their bye week in my 2 big leagues. You figure I could swipe them and be happy right?

 #### no I decided to gamble one more day and get them after the Sunday games (we can pick up 'round the clock in those/first come first serve).

Needless to say, they were taken and I missed out again.

 Lesson here is - stick to your guns and drafted players (even defenses???).  So me losing out is completely on me.

 Buffalo - They actually seemed to be doing pretty well, and they were the ones I snagged in those leagues.

As an aside, I am starting Shady in one, and Robert Woods as my WR3 in the same league, so if Buffalo ####s the bed, then so will I ~! :ph34r:

 Baltimore Ravens are available in my leagues, and this week they are likely a good play vs The Skins, but I don't much like them in weeks 6-7 on the road, and then they are on bye so I decided to roll with Buffalo. It looks like there is at least a "fair chance" they are startable from here on...and maybe just bench them in the very worst matchups.

 OPEN WARNING TO EVERYONE HERE -  I now have Buffalo on my two biggest teams. So be aware they are about to give up 50+ points the next few weeks. :D

 TZM

 
wlwiles said:
I play in one league where there are no waivers, ever.  First come first serve FA all the time.  Stupid rules, I know, but it's a friends fun league...

Good news:  Someone ended up dropping Philly about 2 hours before games started this past weekend

Bad news: I wasn't the first to notice it, so I missed out. 

Semi-good news:  The person that picked them up dropped the Rams to do it, and I was able to grab them.  

Bad news:  it wasn't until after the games had started, so I had to use the Jets (6 points) and missed out on using the Rams (20 points).  Gonna roll with the Rams for the forseeable future and say screw streaming

Good news:  still won this week anyway
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Arodin said:
Assuming you agree with the projections:

Stafford/Eagles is a low variance play...the better one does, the worse the other is likely to do.  You want this when you're tye one heavily favored.

If you believe Stafford is much better than his replacement, and the Eagles are much better than the Pats you do this anyway.

Looks like you at least believe the Pats are close to the Eagles.  Also, they play the Browns.  You need to play for ceiling when you expect to be down on average, so Stafford/Pats is the play.  (I dont see anything on that wire list that strikes me as both close to Stafford and having enough better matchup to be worth swapping that side.)
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Thanks my thinking as well, wanted to hear another point of view.

 
So Seattle was dropped in a few of my leagues. (I would suspect for the bye)

 I am wondering on everyone's thoughts on exactly how good the Seattle D is this year. Their numbers have been decent, but I certainly don't look at them like an every week must start.

 I am thinking they are just slightly better than streaming, but Hell I am not even so sure on that. Their weeks 2 and 3 numbers were pretty rough honestly.

 Currently have Buffalo, and thinking about sitting tight and watching what they do the next couple weeks. The one big advantage is SEA won't have to deal with a bye rest of season.

 Thoughts anyone??

TZM

 
Currently have KC, nice big week they had btw, but going forward PHI and LA are available. Really would prefer not to stream Defenses like most other years. Was leaning LA, now perhaps PHI? KC, PHI, or LA for the season? Hmmmm...nice to have choices.

 
TZMarkie said:
 I am wondering on everyone's thoughts on exactly how good the Seattle D is this year. Their numbers have been decent, but I certainly don't look at them like an every week must start.

 I am thinking they are just slightly better than streaming, but Hell I am not even so sure on that. Their weeks 2 and 3 numbers were pretty rough honestly.

 Currently have Buffalo, and thinking about sitting tight and watching what they do the next couple weeks. The one big advantage is SEA won't have to deal with a bye rest of season.

 Thoughts anyone??

TZM
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I think Seattle is worth having on a roster, but isn't untouchable like in the past. IMO, I'd much rather have Buffalo for the next 3 weeks (LA/SF/Mia) possibly even if the Seahawks weren't on bye this week. If you want to reevaluate then ahead of the week 9 game vs NE (this time with likely a 'motivated' Brady) & the week 10 bye, then that's smart, but otherwise it's hard to think about trading the Bills for anyone that's not the Vikings or probably the Broncos.

If you have the roster space, Seattle's certainly worth grabbing to see what happens. Otherwise just keep a lookout for whomever you can grab when the time is right.

 
Team Smokin' said:
Currently have KC, nice big week they had btw, but going forward PHI and LA are available. Really would prefer not to stream Defenses like most other years. Was leaning LA, now perhaps PHI? KC, PHI, or LA for the season? Hmmmm...nice to have choices.
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KC - Oak, NO & Ind to start out after the bye. That's got to make you wary, at least, coming off the Pit game. Also Atl & Denver twice, so meh.

LA - Possible rough stretch weeks 12-14 with NE/NO/Atl, and likely week 9 vs Car depending on what shape Cam's in. Otherwise Detroit might be their scariest opponent? Feels like at worst a short keep and could be a permanent fixture, though of course you'll have to deal with their bye.

PHi - Atl week 10, GB Week 12, and...  Dallas (twice)? Maybe Detroit and Washington (twice)? Right now, that doesn't look that scary. Add in that the Eagles have scored at least 10 points (in Yahoo) each week and they've already had their bye, and I think that's the way I'd go. 

 
Mt. Man said:
KC - Oak, NO & Ind to start out after the bye. That's got to make you wary, at least, coming off the Pit game. Also Atl & Denver twice, so meh.

LA - Possible rough stretch weeks 12-14 with NE/NO/Atl, and likely week 9 vs Car depending on what shape Cam's in. Otherwise Detroit might be their scariest opponent? Feels like at worst a short keep and could be a permanent fixture, though of course you'll have to deal with their bye.

PHi - Atl week 10, GB Week 12, and...  Dallas (twice)? Maybe Detroit and Washington (twice)? Right now, that doesn't look that scary. Add in that the Eagles have scored at least 10 points (in Yahoo) each week and they've already had their bye, and I think that's the way I'd go. 
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Nice analysis Mt. Man from Michigan. Lions fan, eh? Well, I have been a Lions fan all my 57 years...so perhaps 52 years since I can remember. I'm leaning PHI as well.

 
Surprised there is not talk of Pitt.  I know they are underwhelming but the wire is picked clean and Pitt do get the Jets at home this week and are at Miami next week.

I have Cinci and while I think they might surprise this week at Dallas, I'm waffling.  BTW, Cinci is a better D than people realize and Burrfect will only improve from here.

The thing about Cinci is they play New England next week so grabbing Pitt for the next two weeks is tempting.

 
Rodrigo Duterte said:
Surprised there is not talk of Pitt.  I know they are underwhelming but the wire is picked clean and Pitt do get the Jets at home this week and are at Miami next week.

I have Cinci and while I think they might surprise this week at Dallas, I'm waffling.  BTW, Cinci is a better D than people realize and Burrfect will only improve from here.

The thing about Cinci is they play New England next week so grabbing Pitt for the next two weeks is tempting.
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Interesting thought Rodrigo. PIT is ranked pretty high this week perhaps from the trend on how poorly Fitzpatrick has been playing? Can this trend continue? And CIN used to be a force. They could be an interesting play against DAL. I see this game is close to a pick em. I see CIN as a slight favorite who could finally put together a decent game on both sides of the ball.

 
6 sacks from the Titans yesterday. Sticking with them.

Jax @ Chi is intriguing. 

The Lions have LA at home. Not recommending them, just know that a lot of folks will consider that one. If Ansah plays, maybe. They had 3 sacks & 2 TOs yesterday. Before Slay won the game for them with B2B big plays, they 1 TO 5 games. They can't get off the field - only one 3 & out v PHI, only 6 on the year - 25th in yards & points allowed, weak LB corps. You've been duly forewarned.

The Jets have a half dozen favorable matchups over the next ten weeks. I've seen nothing from them that would lead me to trust them again, though.

 
Switched from Dolphins to Steelers to Titans throughout this week, and it actually worked out. Finally! At first glance, I think I'm gonna stick with the Titans again this upcoming week with a good matchup against the Browns.

 
Patriots turned out well for me this week. Will most likely try get the Bills for next week 

 
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Bills (22 pts) were the better play but Eagles still got me 14 pts even with a terrible 1st half. I'll be switching between those 2 all year.

 
Rolling with the titans against the mess of a QB situation in CLE. 

They also get IND the following week who are giving up a ton of sacks. Might just hang on to them for a couple weeks until I get lucky somehow.

 
I have SEA D at home vs Atlanta but I'm still considering TN vs CLE. Just seems too juicy.

Atlanta offense is looking legit and considering that they performed admirably in Denver last week, I need more than a "safe" effort.  TN D is legit regardless of the matchup. 

Also like PIT D, but away game and playing down to level of the competition worries me. Could see Tannihill putting up some yardage and scores.

 
It has been nice not having to look in this thread because I have the Vikings in both my leagues, but on their bye week, I think im going with the Lions vs the Rams. 

 
this from numberFire ..... a week too late for leagues where we bought last week but still have CLE this week and IND next week and JAX in Week 8 .... plus a Week 13 bye if you choose to hold and match up with another D


Add the Tennessee Titans' Defense


They're at home. They're seven-point favorites. They're facing an offense in Cleveland that has questions at quarterback. And the Browns have surrendered a top-11 performance to four of the five defenses they've faced this season.

The Titans are a great streaming option this week.

 
need2know said:
My opponent just picked up sd. :X   Wtf is he thinking
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Lynch was not good against a not great DEF last week and unknown how effective Siemian will be necessarily, if he plays.

also may be betting on Thursday night games being bad for offense, though I'm not sure that's really true.

 
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Long Ball Larry said:
Lynch was not good against a not great DEF last week and unknown how effective Siemian will be necessarily, if he plays.

also may be betting on Thursday night games being bad for offense, though I'm not sure that's really true.
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All those things make sense.  But it doesn't change the fact sd def sucks.  Denver is a 100 times better than them in every facet and is coming off a loss.  They are going to get drilled and I hope I'm right

 
need2know said:
All those things make sense.  But it doesn't change the fact sd def sucks.  Denver is a 100 times better than them in every facet and is coming off a loss.  They are going to get drilled and I hope I'm right
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And they lost verret for the season.  Fire up those broncos Wrs.  

 
Captain Hook said:
this from numberFire ..... a week too late for leagues where we bought last week but still have CLE this week and IND next week and JAX in Week 8 .... plus a Week 13 bye if you choose to hold and match up with another D


Add the Tennessee Titans' Defense


They're at home. They're seven-point favorites. They're facing an offense in Cleveland that has questions at quarterback. And the Browns have surrendered a top-11 performance to four of the five defenses they've faced this season.

The Titans are a great streaming option this week.
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May start TN over Seattle.

 
Long Ball Larry said:
Lynch was not good against a not great DEF last week and unknown how effective Siemian will be necessarily, if he plays.

also may be betting on Thursday night games being bad for offense, though I'm not sure that's really true.
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#repost

The Lions have LA at home. Not recommending them, just know that a lot of folks will consider that one. If Ansah plays, maybe. They had 3 sacks & 2 TOs yesterday. Before Slay won the game for them with B2B big plays, they 1 TO 5 games. They can't get off the field - only one 3 & out v PHI, only 6 on the year - 25th in yards & points allowed, weak LB corps. You've been duly forewarned.

Ansah is back, but Levy & Haloti Ngata will be out.

 
Captain Hook said:
this from numberFire ..... a week too late for leagues where we bought last week but still have CLE this week and IND next week and JAX in Week 8 .... plus a Week 13 bye if you choose to hold and match up with another D


Add the Tennessee Titans' Defense


They're at home. They're seven-point favorites. They're facing an offense in Cleveland that has questions at quarterback. And the Browns have surrendered a top-11 performance to four of the five defenses they've faced this season.

The Titans are a great streaming option this week.
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I've been burned a couple times picking up D/ST to play against the Browns. They can score points - depends on how their QB plays.  Value also dependent on how your league scores D/ST. If it's all about yardage/points against, it might not be too bad, but if counting-stats are what matter (sacks, ints, FL) it might not be great. CLE isn't a terrible rushing team and they can check-down and matriculate down the field, which racks up yards. And they aren't devoid of weapons in the red zone, so a deep PI might land them a 1st and goal at the 1. They got owned by an angry Pats team and still put up 13 (would have been 14 but they went for 2 and missed).  

Not saying it's a bad play - if I needed a D/ST this week TEN would likely be my pickup, but I don't think it'll be quite the jackpot that fantasy sources are predicting.  

 
Rodrigo Duterte said:
Good for you but who does this info help here, exactly?  Sorry, but I don't understand posts like this.
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You don't see why someone would indicate their preferred defense this week and why in a thread devoted to discussing people's choices for streaming defenses?

I don't think I can help you with this one...

 
Long Ball Larry said:
Lynch was not good against a not great DEF last week and unknown how effective Siemian will be necessarily, if he plays.

also may be betting on Thursday night games being bad for offense, though I'm not sure that's really true.
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Just noticed he dropped them in the middle of the night and picked up the rams.  Must have had nightmares

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
I've been burned a couple times picking up D/ST to play against the Browns. They can score points - depends on how their QB plays.  Value also dependent on how your league scores D/ST. If it's all about yardage/points against, it might not be too bad, but if counting-stats are what matter (sacks, ints, FL) it might not be great. CLE isn't a terrible rushing team and they can check-down and matriculate down the field, which racks up yards. And they aren't devoid of weapons in the red zone, so a deep PI might land them a 1st and goal at the 1. They got owned by an angry Pats team and still put up 13 (would have been 14 but they went for 2 and missed).  

Not saying it's a bad play - if I needed a D/ST this week TEN would likely be my pickup, but I don't think it'll be quite the jackpot that fantasy sources are predicting.  
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6 sacks & 2 INT @ Miami.

Titans are so bad at home I don't think it's a winning point to say "and they're not on the road this week", but they have held 3 out of 5 opponents to 17 or below.

Kessler & McCown were both limited yesterday. Not completely clear who will start.

 
BobbyLayne said:
6 sacks & 2 INT @ Miami.

Titans are so bad at home I don't think it's a winning point to say "and they're not on the road this week", but they have held 3 out of 5 opponents to 17 or below.

Kessler & McCown were both limited yesterday. Not completely clear who will start.
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Well it's a low over under and 7 point spread for tn.  Seems like one of the better plays this week for sure.  I'm betting on a better performance than the gutless dolphins 

 
need2know said:
Well it's a low over under and 7 point spread for tn.  Seems like one of the better plays this week for sure.  I'm betting on a better performance than the gutless dolphins 
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Guy in my league just dropped the fins for the Jets. It makes no sense to pickup New York when they're playing so bad & @ARI is up next, but I think he just wanted the stench of Miami off his roster.

 
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